#tordenskjold

[envisitadecortesia]

Un acorazado para todos los bolsillos

El 12 de julio de 1929 acudía puntual a su cita el buque de defensa de costa HNoMS Tordenskjold de la Real Marina de Noruega, tan pronto como fue visible en el horizonte, el vigía marítimo del castillo de Montjuich dio aviso de su llegada e izó sus señales en lo alto de su semáforo. Al cruzar la bocana del puerto saludó a la plaza con salvas de ordenanza, saludo que fue devuelto desde las…

[chaotic-historian]

I keep seeing this pop up, and want to clear some things:

First of all YEP it's true, apart from the nationality of the English captain, who was in fact sailing under Swedish command. The Norwegian officer was Peter Wessel Tordenskjold (his noble last name translates as Thundershield, which I love), and he is buried in the church I work at in Denmark. Why? Because he, and the rest of Norway, was part of the twin kingdoms of Denmark-Norway at the time. We were at war with Sweden, as per usual, and his gesture was actually considered so rude that he was court-marshalled for it, not for the first or indeed last time.

However, the rest of the navy, and King Frederik the 4th, loved him so dang much that they cleared him of all wrongdoings, as they always had.

Unable to cope with there being peace after 1720, Thundershield died in an illegal duel after pissing off a Swedish count in that same winter. It is speculated by many historians (including myself), that it may have been a sham duel, as the stab wound described suggests he was already dead and lying down at the time. The most common alternative suggestion is that he drank himself to death on a journey to Altona, present day Hamburg.

[ifindus]

var oppe til kl. halv to i natt å binge watcha Brødrene Dal og mysteriet om Karl XIIs gamasjer

å ikke for å spoile noe men tror min favoritt del i serien var den med slaget på Dynekilen i 1716 med Tordenskjold🌩️ hvis du ser episoden så skjønner du nok hvorfor hehe

en viss pirat var visst med på slaget🏴‍☠️✨

😩😩 du kan ikke si sånt! Nå bli jeg jo nødt til å se den!

[ltwilliammowett]

Tordenskjold i Götheborgfjorden, by Christian Mølsted, 1891

[upmala]

since the trains are on strike today, decided to spend the day painting and cooking.

(painting after Christian Mølsted's "Tordenskjold i Götheborgfjorden" (1891))

[blackswaneuroparedux]

Dette landet Harald berget med sin kjemperad, dette landet Håkon verget, medens Øyvind kvad; Olav på det landet malet korset med sitt blod, fra dets høye Sverre talet Roma midt imot.

Bønder sine økser brynte hvor en hær dro frem; Tordenskjold langs kysten lynte, så den lystes hjem. Kvinner selv stod opp og strede som de vare menn; andre kunne bare grede, men det kom igjen!

Visstnok var vi ikke mange, men vi strakk dog til, da vi prøvdes noen gange, og det stod på spill; ti vi heller landet brente enn det kom til fall; husker bare hva som hendte ned på Fredrikshald!

Hårde tider har vi døyet, ble til sist forstøtt; men i verste nød blåøyet frihet ble oss født. Det gav faderkraft å bære hungersnød og krig, det gav d��den selv sin ære — og det gav forlik.

- Ja, vi elsker dette landet - Yes, we love this country (1864)

Yes, we love this country as it rises forth, rugged, weathered, over the water, with the thousands of homes, love, love it and think of our father and mother and the saga-night that lays dreams upon our earth

Norwegian man in house and cabin, thank your great God! The country he wanted to protect, although things looked dark. All the fights fathers have fought, and the mothers have wept, the Lord has quietly eased so we won our rights.

Yes, we love this country as it rises forth, rugged, weathered, above the sea, with those thousand homes. And as the fathers' struggle has raised it from need to victory, even we, when it is demanded, for its peace will encamp (for defence).

There’s no real proper translation of the song traditonally sung to celebrate Norway’s Constitution Day on 17 May.

‘Ja vi elsker’ has a long history as a nationalist song and a song of protest. In the last days of the Norway-Sweden union, Swedish socialists sang the song in support of the Norwegian right to leave the union.

During World War II, Norwegian resistance members used the song. It had originally been used by Nazi collaborators as a propaganda song, but the regime eventually banned its use because of its connection to the resistance.

Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson began to write the lyrics of what he intended to be a patriotic song around 1859. An accompanying melody was written by his cousin Rikard Nordraak sometime during the winter of 1863-1864. The song's first public performance took place on 17 May 1864, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Norwegian constitution.

Over many decades, Ja vi elsker eventually replaced Sønner av Norge (Sons of Norway) as the de-facto national song, but both were used for long periods of time until the early 20th century. In December 2019, Norway officially adopted Ja vi elsker as the official national anthem.

While Ja vi elsker is commonly heard at sporting events and on the constitution day, there are other national songs used in various situations. Sønner av Norge had the title of national song for many decades. Since 2011, Ole Paus' Mitt lille land has been referred to as a “new national song” and it was used several times in connection with the 2011 terror attacks.

There is also an unofficial Royal anthem known as Kongesangen, or the King's song. It is played alongside Ja vi elsker on 17 May. Brits will instantly recognise it as the melody is the same as the British national anthem, God Save the Queen.

Gratulerer med dagen!

17 May: Happy Constitution Day Norway!

[pauldavidgibson]

Tordenskjold Seattle, WA April 2023

[mightyflamethrower]

Danish Admiral Peter Tordenskjold toasts his enemies, by 19th century artist Christian Mølsted (1862-1930). Date 1925

“On guns and cups”, depicting the episode 27th july 1714 where the Danish frigate Lövendals Galley commanded by Danish-Norwegian officer Tordenskjold encounters the Swedish-owned, former English frigate De Olbing Galley on the Swedish westcoast. After a long fight the Danish ship runs out of gunpowder, and the ships part after a toast between the two opponents.

Peter Jansen Wessel Tordenskiold on 12 November 1720, at the age of 30, he was killed in a duel by Livonian colonel Jakob Axel Staël von Holstein. Tordenskiold was in the hands of the rapier , while von Holstein was armed with a heavy broadsword (belonging to the type “Karolinerverge”, “Karolinska sword”).

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[afactaday]

#aFactADay2021

#185: in 1714, in the Great Northern war, a Danish ship ran out of ammunition and sent a ship over to the enemy asking for some cannonballs 14 hours into a battle so they could continue the fight. the captains ended up drinking together so no one actually died. the captain of the Danish ship, Peter Jansen Wessel "Tordenskjold" (thunder shield), saw the Swedish ship thinking it was a British ship because the Swedes had sent it over to Britain to be fitted with all these guns. he had disguised his own ship as a Dutch ship but it was a lot smaller, so when he got home his admiral or whatever it is reprimanded him for initiating battle and took him to court. he found an obscure bit of naval law that not only got him off but got him promoted!

so from the outside it looked like a Dutch and a British ship when it was actually a Swedish and a Danish-Norwegian ship!

[sirona7]

I didn’t learn my grandfather’s birth name until I began researching the family many years after his death. I knew him as Walter A. Balling. He was born in Denmark in 1889 and named Valdemar Arnbjørn Griffenfeldt Dagobert Tordenskjod Balling. He came to the US at 21, and joined the US Army as soon as he could. He served for many years including in World War I.

A beautiful memorial page was established for him by Charlotte Raley McConaha, who lives the belief that no one should be forgotten.

In grateful memory of all who have served our country throughout our long history. Thank you.

#myimmigrantfamily

[politirapporten]

Onsdag den 8. marts 2023 afholder myndighederne i Nordjylland en større øvelse, der skal teste, træne og øve beredskabet. Øvelsen foregår fra cirka kl. 16.30 i området omkring Aalestrup, og den forsætter frem til sidst på aftenen. Det betyder, fortæller den øvelsesansvarlige fra Nordjyllands Politi, politiassistent Kenneth Sloth Andersen, at borgerne i og omkring Aalestrup – selvom selve øvelsen afholdes på et lukket omr��de et centralt sted i byen – vil kunne opleve et større antal udrykningskøretøjer og personale fra forskellige myndigheder i området. ”Men der er altså ingen grund til uro eller til bekymring. Tværtimod. Det er blot os, der træner. Øvelsesvirksomhed er nemlig helt nødvendig for os, så vi holder vores færdigheder og kompetencer knivskarpe – til gavn for borgernes tryghed og sikkerhed,” lyder forsikringen fra Kenneth Sloth Andersen. Deltaljer hemmeligholdes Af hensynet til læringen for det indsatte personale så kan den øvelsesansvarlige ikke gå i detaljer med indholdet af selve øvelsen, men han kan dog generelt oplyse, at øvelsen – der internt kaldes for Øvelse Tordenskjold – har som sit helt overordnede formål at afprøve og vurdere beredskabskomponenternes samlede indsats ved en såkaldt ’større uvarslet hændelse’. I forbindelse med den konkrete øvelse vil der ’ske’ en større ulykke på det pågældende sted; og derefter udfolder der sig en række yderligere hændelser og udviklinger, som øvelsesledelsen spiller ind til deltagerne – indspil, der gradvist øger presset på deltagerne og indsatsledelsen på stedet og tilføjer en øget kompleksitet i myndighedernes håndtering af ”ulykken”. ”Men tættere på kan jeg ikke komme det på nuværende tidspunkt – vi vil jo gerne sikre os overraskelsesmomentet, så deltagerne får en optimal læring ud af selve øvelsen,” siger Kenneth Sloth Andersen. Håber på forståelse Han oplyser dog, at der i forbindelse med afviklingen af øvelsen forventeligt deltager over 150 personer. ”Så vi kommer til at ’fylde lidt i lokalområdet’ onsdag aften, så jeg håber på borgere og beboeres forståelse for, at der kan være lidt larm under øvelsen – blandt andet fra udrykningskøretøjer.” Flere myndigheder deltager i øvelsen, blandt andet Nordjyllands Politi, Region Nordjylland, Beredskabsstyrelsen, Nordjyllands Beredskab, Falck og Hærhjemmeværnet.

[historicwharf]

“ For several years early in her career, our historic 1911 halibut schooner TORDENSKJOLD was home-ported at Poulsbo. This photo circa 1920 shows her original configuration, with the dories taking up most of the aft deck . TORDENSKJOLD went on to fish every year until 2012. Now, Northwest Seaport owns and operates her. TORDENSKJOLD is the oldest surviving halibut schooner and the only one open to the public. “

From Northwest Seaport’s Facebook Page

[ifindus]

skal være ærlig å si at jeg hakke sett mye på brødrene dal jeg heller😅 var lengesiden jeg så på det husker så vidt hva det var for noe engang...det var også rundt den tiden jeg ikke kunne så godt norsk🥲 men, slik jeg husker det så var det veldig morsomt, å humoren er slik at du skal ikke stille spørsmål ved alt det rare som skjer, bare aksepter at det er mye rart som foregår🫡

gjorde et lite google søk og det kom opp en film med brødrene Dal som heter "Brødrene Dal og mysteriet om Karl XIIs gamasjer" som tydeligvis handler om unionstiden med Sverige👀 på wikipedia står det: I denne serien må brødrene spore opp Karl XIIs gamasjer for å unngå at Norge må tilbake i union med Sverige i forbindelse med 100-årsjubileet for unionsoppløsningen i 2005. Jakten bringer dem til forskjellige tidsepoker og historiske begivenheter i de to landene som f.eks, underskrivingen av unionsoppløsningstraktaten i Karlstad i 1905, slaget på Dynekilen i 1716 med Tordenskjold, slaget ved Fredriksten Festning i 1718 der Karl XII blir drept, fredsforhandlingene i Kiel 1814 og mange fler.

det høres jo ut som midt i blinken for dine interreser spør du meg!

faktisk!! 😭😭 skitt, har jo hørt om Karl den tolvtes gamasjer og 100% sett noen klipp fra Brødrene Dal en gang for lenge siden.

Ser jo at alt Brødrene Dal ligger ute på NRK TV 👀👀 kanskje det må bli neste prosjekt når jeg går lei av House 🙏🏻 den historiske konteksten er jo kjempeinterssant, selv om det er veldig mye tull i den serien

[bibliovial]

Episode 1: In which I write about the mother of THUNDERSHIELD having too many babies.

So, I just started reading a book about this dude named Thundersheild. No, really. He got to pick his name and that is what he chose and it is awesome. Tordenskjold in the original Norwegian/Danish. Which, honestly, rolls off of the tongue better (TOOR-den-sholl). You could also say Shield of Thunder, they are both acceptable translations, but I like how Thundershield reminds me of Thundersisters and makes a great battle cry.

Anyway, he is, like, the best Scandinavian naval hero of all time, and I gotta say, he didn't fall far from the tree. Not because there were ANY other military heroes, naval or otherwise, in his family (maybe there were? I am in chapter one, guys), but because him mom was badass.

This woman had 18 kids. EIGHTEEN. Eighteen. 18. Like...let that sink in. She married at 15 and had 18 kids. If you assume an average of 18 months between the birth of each kid (baby is 9 months, time to make another!), she stopped having kids at around 42 after 27 years. Plus another year or two of nursing. Like....what. I've GOT kids, I KNOW what that is like. Just surviving that many births is impressive.

But what astounds me even more is that this woman did not then succumb to vitimin deficiency/exhaustion/sleep loss after 18 pregnancies and infants, or even whatever usually killed people in 1700s (smallpox? taburculosis? plague?), but she went on to be 86. IN THE 1700S. WHAT?! I mean, they clearly had plenty of food, but those are some good genes. 86 is like Methuselah back then.

At some point Tordensjold's dad's ship sinks at sea and he ends up in France. I am going to quote here (translation is my own). "When the good Frenchmen heard that he was the father of 18 children, they were so impressed by his skill that they took up a collection" to send him home. "Whether the Frenchmen also valued the *mother's* work to put these 18 children into the world, [Tordensjold's father] has not related to posterity."

I get the impression that the author is just as impressed (terrified? astounded?) as I am.

So yeah. She was badass.

P.S. The book is called Torsenskjold and it is by Thorleif Dahl and I have no idea if it is still in print. Also I haven't checked. Also it is written in Norwegian.

[chaotic-historian]

The Norwegian in question was Peter Wessel, later ennobled under the name of 'Tordenskiold', lit Thundershield, and the story is true. However, since Norway was at the time in Union with Denmark under the Danish crown, Wessel served as a Dano-Norwegian captain, and is generally considered a naval hero in both countries.

He also started his career by sailing with a slave ship from Denmark to Ghana, and onwards to the West Indies and back. Naval historians tend to forget this.

Well that wasn’t very sporting of the ol chap.

[movie--posters]