#tony mccarroll's book

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getting him to join

from the get go liam's plan hadn't been to merely impress noel by being in a band, it was to get noel IN the band

liam is at first desperate and then genuinely thrilled to get noel, whereas noel is deliriously happy about having louise

but yes, the mission was to get noel in at any cost. kind of like baby trapping someone, but with a band instead of a baby

imagine liam jumping through all these hoops for paul?

so what's it like now that you've successfully smuggled your one and only into the band? must be pretty nice, right? well...:

cutting two-word review... seldom seemed to show any positive emotion towards liam... noel's smile seemed to vanish...

yeah ...

so these are from tony mccarroll's book which is well worth a read or ten

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I'm freaking out someone pleaseeeee summarize the lore of the relationship between these two because I'm losing my mind

welcome to the insanity, friend! there's too much lore to summarize, you really just have to fully immerse yourself, but i'll try to do a little starter pack thing

start here→ supersonic documentary

some gcest things: loch lomond, lock all the doors/my sister lover trilogy, guess god thinks i'm abel, you jealous, whatever this was, we had sex last night, wonderwall, lovecomedy's post, snickfic's primer.... and the fic everyone's referencing lol

some other documentaries: knebworth 1996 (about their biggest gig), definitely maybe (about their first album), as it was (liam's comeback documentary from 2019, this one's very pr driven, i would suggest watching it after you've dug into the lore a bit), noel chatting with gibson (2023)

there's a bunch of books written about oasis, of note is the one written by their brother. some others by: paolo hewitt (2 books), tony mccarroll, iain robertson

l4e is a forum that has been going a long time and has lots of info. add site:live4ever.proboards.com to your google search 👍

oasis interviews archive has interviews from the 90s and 00s

the oasis subreddit (ugh) is not bad if you're looking for something specific and aren't getting results on l4e. also good for checking out what other fans are saying (youtube comments are great for that too lmao)

and ofc the music: 7 oasis albums (first 2 are the best) and tons of amazing b-sides and demos, 2 albums from beady eye (oasis after noel left), 4 albums from noel gallagher's high flying birds plus a few EPs, and 3 liam gallagher solo albums

and there's various other projects— like liam's album with john squire, and the 3 songs noel co-wrote for the black keys

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from tony mccarroll's book.

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I've read Tony McCarroll's book "Oasis - The Truth: My Life As Oasis's drummer" and I took a bunch of screenshots, so I'm posting them.

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New interview the BBC did with The Real People after the reunion announcement and they're talking about Liam's star quality again:

It was the early hours of the morning, but the bar of the Columbia hotel in London's Lancaster Gate was packed with musicians who were in the capital for gigs, or just hanging out at what had become the go-to haunt for artists and performers in the early 1990s.

Then, like a scene from a western, the noise gave way to a hush, then a near silence, and all eyes turned towards the door.

Ian Prowse, who at that time was in the signed Liverpool band Pele, was among the drinkers, and he too angled his gaze to see who or what had brought everything to a standstill.

"This guy had walked in, and there was just something about him, an aura, some sort of magic," he says.

Behind the enigmatic young man swaggering his way into the bar was Tony Griffiths, one of the two brothers who were the creative engine of the Liverpool band The Real People.

Prowse caught up with The Real People's bass player and singer and asked him who the guy was, and was told it was "his mate Liam".

At this point, the name Liam Gallagher meant little to most people, but to Tony Griffiths, he and his band were going to be "the biggest thing ever".

"This was a few months before they had anything out," says Prowse. "They were unknown. But he was able to just walk into a packed bar at four o'clock in the morning and turn heads."

Liam Gallagher’s charisma had made an impression, but Prowse was yet to hear the fledgling band's sound. When he returned home to Liverpool, he asked his agent – whom his band shared with Oasis – to let him listen to something by this new group.

"He played me this track," he says, "and I just thought, 'Whatever we're doing, it's not this'. It just wasn't capturing the zeitgeist the way this was."

The recording he'd heard was Supersonic, which was written and recorded in one day in December 1993 at the Pink Museum Studio in Lark Lane, Liverpool, with The Real People's Tony Griffiths on backing vocals.

According to former Oasis drummer Tony McCarroll's 2010 book The Truth, Tony and his brother Chris were "integral" to the creation of the song, which would be released in April the following year to huge acclaim.

Oasis, which consisted of Noel and Liam Gallagher, McCarroll, Paul 'Bonehead' Arthurs and Paul 'Guigsy' McGuigan, were at that time as much a Liverpool band as a Manchester band, cutting their teeth at venues such as Le Bateau and The Krazy House, where they supported The Real People.

It was striking the relationship with The Real People that put Oasis on the road to stardom.

'Your kid's a star'

The Real People had been around since 1987, and by 1989 were signed to Columbia Records. Soon afterwards they sold 100,000 copies of their eponymous album, whose shuffling drums, overdriven guitars and Beatle-esque harmonies won them an international following.

By contrast, Liam Gallagher was still at school and Noel was yet to pen the soaring sentiments of Live Forever in the warehouse in which he had a decidedly un-rock 'n' roll job as a British Gas sub-contractor.

Chris and Tony would meet the Gallagher brothers in 1992, while The Real People were on tour with the Inspiral Carpets, for whom Noel was a roadie.

"I would always take my own Pot Noodles with me on tour and he'd come over and be after one, so that’s how we struck up conversation," says Chris Griffiths.

"But when we met Liam, we were saying to Noel, 'Your kid's a star, he is'. And this is before we'd even heard him sing.

[...]

For Griffiths, their success was as much down to Liam's star quality as the music or musicianship.

"Noel was a good musician, but he was no [Ocean Colour Scene lead guitarist] Steve Craddock. A lot of it was down to Liam, his attitude and his voice.

[...]

Read the full article to learn more about The Real People's involvement and the early days here

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I’ve spent sooooo much money on oasis paraphernalia the last nine months you really think I would have pulled the trigger and paid the ~40 for the two paolo Hewitt books and the tony mccarroll book and the brother book. Well what if I was scared

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Married With Children: Paul McGuigan (Guigsy)

Paul McGuigan aka Guigsy was born on May 9, 1971 In Manchester, England. His music career effectively began as a founding member of Rain and bass guitarist, which he started with Paul "Bonehead" Arthurs, Chris Hutton, and Tony McCarroll. After Hutton was asked to leave the band, Guigsy invited his former schoolmate Liam Gallagher to become the new lead vocalist. Paul served as the primary bass player on tour for Oasis, but Noel Gallagher stepped in to play some of the bass parts on the first two albums. A rumor began to form over the years that neither he nor Bonehead actually played on the first two albums. Producer Owen Morris would eventually refute this story. In 1995, Guigsy gave this answer when asked about his bass playing style."When I first started I just played up and down the top string of the bass. Come to think of it, that's what I still do now."

He would leave the group in 1999, which coincidentally represented the same year that rhythm guitarist Bonehead left the group. Noel would later say that McGuigan left Oasis by sending a fax, then would not answer repeated attempts to contact him in subsequent weeks. He would go on to cut all major ties with the group, declining to be interviewed for the 2004 DVD Definitely Maybe and the 2016 documentary Supersonic. Noel would say in an interview for the latter documentary that the band served as a “lowly fifth” on the list of the guitarist's priorities preceded by "cricket, Doctor Who, weed, and Man City.” His favorite hobby has always been supporting Manchester United. McGuigan would tell Rolling Stone in 1996 that “watching football is my main hobby. Watching football, watching videos about football, reading about football and talking about football. That's pretty much all I care about.” He even co-wrote a book about soccer player Robin Friday entitled The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw with journalist Paolo Hewitt. More recently, Paul has been performing as a DJ much like his former bandmate Bonehead.

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relationship status: lonely  favourite colour: vermillion, blue, and grey lipstick or chapstick: both are good!!!! depends on my mood i guess three favourite foods: shime saba, butter chicken, and all breakfast food last song i listened to: ingenue - atoms for peace last movie i watched: the social network top 3 shows: mindhunter, mad men, and forensic files top 3 bands: god uhhhhh...... oasis, radiohead, and mybloodyvalentinejoydivisionjamcthesmithsblurthecurestonerosesetc (Please Don’t Make Me Choose) books i’m currently reading: patti smith’s m train and tony mccarroll’s oasis: the truth dfkjdlkfjdl 

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so there are a few things that make me think liam is a SA survivor:

this quote about his mother's male 'friend' harming him in some unspecified way:

2. this interview, where a dead-eyed and mirthless liam is talking about being a 15-year-old hooker:

3. somewhat unusual/inappropriate behavior often seen in people whose boundaries have been violated that liam also sometimes exhibits, e.g. 1996 mtv awards:

4. this VERY weird and disturbing thomas quote about liam 'kissing him':

5. bigun sending a teenage liam to a 'car wash client's house' with a letter suggesting something sexual involving liam and said client 'as a joke' (source: tony's book)

i can't help but think 'wtf is wrong with all these men surrounding him?!'... i also think it was very easy for noel to take advantage of what liam has said was his greatest fear as a youngster ('his mom and brothers being unhappy').

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btw here's all the smiths bits from tony mccarroll's book (which should be read with a handfull of salt) noel's smiths obsession started at the end of 1983, so he literally calls tony a faggot and then goes home to stare into morrissey's eyes sjhgsksk

And, in 1987ish, Tony and Guigsy's hooligan gang:

noel really said 'this is a fag's only event' shsgsh fr though, assuming there's truth to this, i think it really sums up noel and tony's relationship. noel never trusted tony with any of his vulnerabilities (and in the end noel was proven right not to)

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answer 8 彡 tag 8

JSTOR gave me permission!  :)

last movie watched: The Red Shoes, Powell and Pressburger (Hi V!)

last song listened to: “Jon and Lucy’s Great Escape,” Jay McCarrol  

last book read:  probably some textbook for a committee

last thing eaten: Taco Bell cheese quesadilla

if you could be anywhere rn, where would you be: Toronto.

time travel destination: 1980s Toronto, to relive memories of my childhood

fictional character to keep you company for a day: The dad from Toni Erdmann.  

tag: anyone?

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Lyric Analysis #1 - Take Me

Hello! Here I am again, to give y'all your weekly content.

So! Now that I inaugurated this account again, I'll come back to the chronological order plan of posting. We are on Early Years, and the first post was about how the things started between them. Following the order, now, we'll have a lyric analysis. Actually, it's not even a "lyric analysis", because the lyrics are pretty clear (ha), but it will be a conversation about the song.

And, as you read on the title, the song chosen is Take Me.

Click on the cut below to read more about the wise heterosexual lyrics by Liam Gallagher!

Disclaimer: this is a theory made by myself, based in conversations I had with my friends and months of analysis, suffering, nights of insomnia and tears. Don't know if everything is veridical, but at least, it's a way that I found to "light" up our way and try to find some proper fucking answers to this stuff.

Well, first, I should introduce you to Take Me.

Take Me is a song written by Liam, when he was already on the band and the band was already called Oasis. The song is this one and the lyrics, in case you don't know, go like this:

Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I'm not so strong Why has it taken you so long?

Take me when you feel I've gone I always knew I could be someone Take me if you think you're right Do it now before it's light

Take me if you think I'm sweet Though my life feels incomplete Take me when I wish to live For I still have this to give

Take me when I'm young and true Was it me or was it you? Take me when I start to cry Take me, take me, don't ask why

Wow. As I said before: wise heterosexual lyrics by Liam Gallagher.

Anyway, let's get it started!

The song was written by Liam, on Oasis, and the point is that, when Noel arrived from the Inspirals tour, in 91, the song was already written and done, not only because Tony McCarroll said it on his book, but because when Noel went to see them perform on the Boardwalk on 18th August 1991, they already had their repertory, which included, for example, Reminisce, Alice, AND Take Me.

Well, so let's continue on the timeline: Noel went to see them perform and a time after that, Liam invited him to the band, and everything was OK.

Anyway, the lyrics have a big sexual connotation, and nobody can deny it. In one of the Oasis books (which I don't know which is, sorry, but I think it might be Take Me There by Paul Marthur), it's claimed that Take Me is an """unwitting"""ode to gay sex. So, yes, it definitely refers to a guy:

And it’s not the only media report (if we can call it like that) that associated Take Me to homosexuality: in 2002, an interview (sorry, I couldn’t find it) said:

“Liam's lyrics, meanwhile, have some perplexing content. Oddly, they could be seen to wanly echo the homoerotic passivity Morrissey adopted on the likes of This Charming Man. ‘Take me when I'm young and true...’  goes Take Me. ‘Take me when I'm not so strong/Why has it taken you so long... Do it now before it's light’."

An important fact is that Noel LIKED the lyrics, as said on Tony's book and in this quote I've already seen on Oasis fan sites a thousand times:

"Also the demo of 'Take Me' - which can only be found on bootlegs - was written by Liam (lyrics) and Bonehead (instrumental) and has a continuous guitar line […] As a demo, the recording is very rough but the song is fantastic (putting it mildly) and Noel was said to have begged Liam to record it properly but never did."

"To record it properly" refers to the Definitely Maybe recording sessions, in fact. To me, the fact Liam didn't want to record it properly and show his creation to the world is due to the song be something really intimate for him.

But the point is that: Noel liked it, and I'm pretty sure it's due the fact of the sexual connotation of the song. But it wasn't a random one: it was a sexual connotation coming from Liam – referring to a male figure on the song. And we know, based on my first post on this blog, that Noel was already interested on Liam by the time both were on Oasis. Maybe, for Noel, these lyrics increased the idea of Liam not being a innocent lad anymore. And that must have pleased Noel.

Back to the lyrics: we have two plausible options for the whole story of Take Me, which I'm going to list for you right now:

1-) The lyrics have something to do with Noel

I personally don't agree with this one, but we can't let any evidence out. It might would be the reason for Noel like the lyrics so much: maybe they had a little thing before, Liam wrote about it, Noel identified it as soon as he read it, and that's it. The problem with this option is that Liam wrote it before Noel was back from the tour, and I highly doubt they had something between them before Noel entered on Oasis. So, it's up to you to consider it veridic or not.

2-) The lyrics talk about a one night stand Liam had

This is the option which I think is more probable to be true. One fine night, walking down the streets of Manchester, going to Hacienda and stuff, William met a sweet boy after drinking (a lot), and the end of story is: they made out.

Seriously now: at least for me, the lyrics talk about a one night stand Liam had with a random guy. I doubt he was sober, to be honest, but, yeah, he did it. Afterwards, regretted or not, he wrote about it. And that lead us to a huge point:

Noel was not Liam's first man.

And that leads us to the following point: if Liam’s almost 90% of the time straight (the exceptions include Noel, Bonehead, Bono and street guards), why would he hook up with a guy? Besides the drinking, of course.

Well, my answer is: Noel had a certain fame in Manchester – the so well known Manchester Mauler – and I always wondered if Liam knew it. The thing is that, maybe, Liam did know about Noel's fame and that made him mirror that experience (making out with a guy) on Noel, since Noel was like an example for him. And not only this: maybe this was just another one way of searching for Noel’s approval.

After all, we come back to the situation of Noel liking the song and wanting to record it: maybe, with this song, Noel realised that he would might have a chance with Liam. Or maybe because it provoked him, challenged him. And, well, we all know what happened then. 

That's it, I guess! Thank you for reading, I appreciate your support. Reblog if you don't mind on having incest on your blog, feel free to send me a message, I'll love to read it!

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I just read Tony McCarrolls's book again and in the end he says this about Liam and Noel's split

Five years, I reckon, and they'll be back together. I don't think they can help themselves.

Keep in mind that Tony is someone who has known them since they were children and has been in the band with them from the beginning and for many years (in his own words: I lived, worked and played with them for over a decade.), so he is someone who can judge their closeness and their relationship first hand and has his reasons why he would think that they wouldn't be able to stay away from each other for too long.

Very sad that they're still not back together or so it seems at least 💔

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Ok. Who has read Tony McCarroll’s book

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Murgon playwright wins Helpmann award | Helpmann Awards

Barrie Kosky's Saul and Leah Purcell's The Drover's Wife were among the big winners at the 2017 Helpmann awards, the industry's national prize for live performance, held at Capitol Theatre in Sydney on Monday night. McCarroll joined Warner Music in 2014 from Capitol Records, where he also served as President. LOCAL artists may have been a little light on bringing back the awards during last night's 2017 Helpmann Awards- but Perth is all the richer with news two great talents are moving home. Ms Purcell grew up in Murgon and has gone on to have a career in film, TV and on the stage as an actor, writer and director, singer and songwriter.

This is no winter of discontent for Kate Mulvany, with the Geraldton-born actress' gender-bending portrayal of Shakespeare's deformed king Richard III winning her this year's Helpmann Award for best female actor in a play. The Tony Award-winning musical comedy's tale about two young Mormon missionaries who are sent on a mission from Salt Lake City to Uganda has proved a hit with audiences around the globe. Some of music and theatre's biggest names picked up gongs at last night's Helpmann Awards, including Australian icon, Nick Cave.Barrie Kosky's production of Saul, which had its Australian premiere at Adelaide Festival, has dominated this year's Helpmann Awards, picking up six awards, including Best Direction of an Opera and Best Opera. PLAYWRIGHT Leah Purcell picked up a Helpmann award last night for her play The Drover's Wife.

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