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greatgoddyke · 4 months ago

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this is petty n most likely an issue of ive just been exposed to entirely different shit but those posts about how people complaining about redemption arcs is bad bc its important message that people can change is just completely ignoring why people are actually complaining cause the big two examples i can think of for why people complain about redemptions are 1. the redemption is poorly written n ignores and/or retcons the previous seriousness of their wrongdoings just because the writer(s) want them to be good now n its kind of hard to do that if (for example) we take the lives they intentionally n mercilessly killed into account and 2. this character is an abuser but instead of taking accountability n bare minimum apologizing n letting their victim(s) choose whether they wish to still have them in their life the writer(s) choose a narrative where the abuser doesnt really have to change as a person they just dont abuse anyone anymore n the framing is weirdly unsympathetic to their victim(s)

#bonk.txt #annoys me even more bc of it using the good place as an example bc THE GOOD PLACE HAVE AN ABUSER WHO BECOMES A BETTER PERSON #AND IS SYMPATHETIC TO HER VICTIM FOR BEING HURT N UPSET THAT HER MOM WAS CAPABLE OF CHANGE BUT DIDNT CHANGE FOR HER #its not the concept of someone improving n growing as a person as a person that people dislike they dislike bad inconsistent writing #n (intentional or not) narratives of abuse victims having to forgive their abuser and or ignore the harm done to them!!#the elements of ''its kind of facist to not forgive people'' and ''i was kind of a shit person so its important for me to see characters #who are also kind of shit change as people'' also suck #first thing it is an actual issue that people are unforgiving n ignore how someone's changed to go after them for shit that is years old #but as already stated thats not the usual reason people complain about this shit n it feels disingenuous to bring that up #cause people thought a show you liked is badly written when that tactic is usually used to target minorities n silence them for disagreeing #with someone or being mildly annoying #usually they didn't even do anything to warrant this response n the shit being dug up to vilify them is like a nonissue twisted into harm #second thing is like ur probably perceiving urself as worse than you are you definitely never killed anyone n you most likely havent #intentionally cultivated a situation where u can get away with multiple people with no consequences ur at worst probably just an asshole #n its a weird overreaction to reach for these kinds of characters when theres more out there that resemble #ur situation n the growth u experience as a person that as a bonus are also probably better written #this is just like straight up brain vomit i i need to go back to bed n also im probably mixing posts in my head but hhh #people dont like bad writing it is mostly that simply n when its not for either of the proper reasons ive stated #then its usually related to some kind of bigotry n holding minorities to a higher standard than they would if it was just some white guy #which is still an actual issue but again unrelated to people disliking that we're capable of change #i complain about it a lot whenever a character is widely hated for at best things they'd forgive their (canonically cishet male) blorbo for #n at worst genuinely nothing just bc the character happens to be nonwhite/a woman/a kid/traumatized/not whatever's considered #to be ''palatable'' but thats a separate issue n not even the point the posts im complaining about are trying to make #the second example (in the actual post ive written n not in the tags) is probably like too specific #n also i havent like touched the thing im vaguing there in years n its how the situation was when it was last touched upon when i still #somewhat kept up to it but whatever the gist is still there even if its not one to one

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