#tmh world tour

[liloslittlethings]

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here's a tag guide (this is honestly more to keep myself organized but I thought it might be helpful as I add more tags)

by year: 2010 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 /

by tour: uant / tmht / wwat / otra

by album promo: uan / tmh / mm / four / mitam

by type: interview / tour / live performance [not on tour] / compilation / music video / social media

by live song: little things / she's not afraid

by event: this is us / aotv / after 1d

misc recurring tags: water fight / serenading / replay / he’s a funny guy / have you quite finished / liam would do anything for louis / no reason other than: annoy liam / partners in writing / in their own little world / recce / hugs

bonus a little bit about me & my lilo history (for anyone who cares)

[cantcompetewhereudontcompare]

Larries are so out of this world absurd I cannot cope. Since before Harry's tour ended they have been pedaling that he's gonna take a long break to let Louis "shine." Some of them have even become so cuckoo that they think he's flat out retiring, forever.

This Larrie, in particular, is unhinged.

She's talking about the first time she said this weird ass thing (Harry walking away from his career to be with Louis) and how the comments called her delusional. "How are we feeling now" ... because it's been a year since his last show and he... IDK? Hasn't come back yet?

Hmmm. Last show of Live On Tour was July 14 2018. Was Harry active in July 2019? NO. He was still on a break. No news of a new album. He hadn't even been seen in a studio since 2018.

This is Harry with his producer Kid Harpoon about a month ago (June 2024) in Rome

He was also seen with his creative director Molly in Civita about 10 days ago (multiple people saw her there). His assistant Luis was seen hauling a suit over his shoulder and both of his photographers, Lloyd and Anthony were there.

I know Larries, for all their attempts at portraying themselves as knowledgeable, never actually know anything. They don't pay attention to this sort of thing because it doesn't involve Louis, so they're not interested, but Harry is working on his fourth album. This isn't even speculation, Billboard reported on it.

Harry takes 2.5 years between albums, he has done that twice already. But I sincerely doubt he's gonna release an album at the 2.5 year mark this time because the US election is in November and it's gonna drown absolutely everything. It's the reason so many artists released music at the beginning of the year. Most likely scenario he's gonna wait for the dust to settle on that, and release in the spring again, making it 3 years instead of 2.5. But he is working on that album. Rob Stringer, head of Sony, was hanging out with his producer and sister just two weeks ago at Stevie's show.

This woman then goes on to say that someone is "messing with her" implying that it's someone in the know telling her stuff. And she doesn't know if this person is seeing if she's trustworthy and won't speak or if this person is using her to speak.

Honey, no one in the know is talking to you. You're a delusional grandma with no life who has focused her entire existence around a relationship that was never real between two people who have not interacted publicly in almost a decade. No one is testing you, no one is feeding you info. Someone equally as bored and lifeless as you is literally messing with you, but just for the fun of it.

"They told me HS4 was coming and I was like, really? I didn't get the vibe." No shit. He's never released albums this close together. Why would he start now?

I just don't understand how these people who act like they pay such close attention can't look at past release dates and do some basic math. In fact, if you're supposedly experts on all things 1D and management and whatnot, how can you not know that the main thing Harry objected to in terms of 1D's schedule is that they released albums too close together. Actual literal quote from Harry "five albums in five years is pretty crazy, huh?" In the shadiest voice, when talking about something else entirely. He just felt the need to tuck that comment in.

He talked about how he didn't want to exhaust the fanbase. He saw it happening in real time with 1D, which went from big (UAN), to bigger (with TMH) to big but slightly lower than before (Midnight Memories) to a slump (Four). He saw concert tickets have to go out on Groupon, their singles barely cracking top 10, and the enthusiasm all around dropping. Because they released too much music too soon and toured too much too close together. He's not gonna make that same mistake. He LITERALLY talked about it in his Rolling Stone interview. He used the sentence "we didn't want to exhaust the fanbase."

Harry went through some massive years, and he didn't get a proper break in the minds of people during his actual break (2020/2021) because he exploded during the pandemic and his songs became huge hits. He took his usual break, disappeared, didn't perform for a long ass time, but he KNOWS he was still very present in people's minds. And then he had two huge years in 2022 and 2023. So yeah, he's gonna disappear for a little longer, but there is literally no indication that he's retiring.

In fact, during his last show, where people used parts of what he said out of context ("when the time is right" is a big one), he made sure to over and over say that he was coming back and it was just a break. Something he never did with 1D, mind you.

When the time is right was absolutely warning that he was gonna take a proper break. The man was probably exhausted. But he was seen with his producers in September 2023. Mind you, Tyler lives in Nashville and Kid lives in California. They were seen with Harry in London, blocks away from RAK Studios, which is where he recorded his last two albums. Do you think his two producers who live across the ocean, happened to travel to London at the same time and hang out near his usual studio for what reason? Fun? They both have kids and wives back home lol. Like, lady, you're full blown delusional.

Remember the pic I posted before? This one?

There's a third man in it. Who is it? This man. Nikolai Haas.

Where did that photo come from? The Harry's House photobook. Where was it taken? Italy. The man is legitimately wearing the same fucking sandals lol.

In fact, Molly was seen in Civita, remember I just said that? Well, here are Harry and Molly in Civita for Harry's House booklet

So while you're going off "vibes" I'm going off factual evidence.

"I rewatched clips of him on stage. That man was saying goodbye." Lady, you're convinced that he's been in a secret relationship for ten years with someone he doesn't even tolerate. And I will touch on that in another post right after this one. Your instinct is completely wrong in every sense of the way.

Whatever "vibe" he had (according to you) is irrelevant when the words coming out of his mouth contradicted that. But I know Larries aren't known for listening to what he says, so I shouldn't be surprised.

"Ultimately we want him to be happy" no you don't. You want him to be happy in the specific scenarios you created. If he dares go outside of them you won't support him anymore. Y'all have made that very clear. You literally repeat constantly that if he's not with Louis then he's not a good person lmao. You perpetuate this idea that he'd be a womanizer if he was actually into women. You have to believe his entire life is a lie or you don't like him.

But I guess more fool me for trying to debunk and argue with someone who says "I can feel him a little bit." Claiming to actually feel what he feels. Like, this is beyond normal levels of conspiracy theory delusion. This is the level of having you institutionalized deranged.

"I do have lots of tea." Yeah, grey earl tea. NOBODY IS TALKING TO KAREN FROM IOWA.

I don't know how to break this to y'all but I've been a part of this fandom in one way or another since 2012 and this type of person has always existed. They always have some "tea" they always "know someone" and they're always hinting at something that will happen "soon." And then they move the goalposts for a while, "something changed behind the scenes" or a new contract popped up, or someone did something that changed something else, etc. There's always an excuse as to why all the "tea" doesn't end up happening. Until eventually they realize they were lied to and just drop out of the face of the planet. That is if they weren't making it all up in the first place.

"If you take a look at Louis Tomlinson's career currently *smug smirk* where's Harry? Not in the spotlight. And while they were both touring, people were going to Harry's shows mostly, but if they had the time and in between they wanted to go to Louis' shows. They wanted to go to both."

Absolute bullshit.

"And I really feel strongly that they felt 'If Harry is not touring people will go to Louis.' His crowds have tripled, since Harry left. Ok? T R I P L E D."

No, they have not?

I mean, you guys...

Louis in Argentina had sold 25,957 tickets in 2023 "while Harry was touring. (Harry sold 123,942 tickets in the same country)."

In 2024, Louis did Argentina again and this time he chose the same stadium 1D had performed at back in 2014. 1D did two shows in that stadium and the attendance was 80,622. So each show was roughly 40,000. So already we're not at "tripled" territory, because triple 25,000 is 75,000. But alright, it's a boost isn't it?

Wrong. Turns out he couldn't even close to sell out, so they "virtually" sold out the upper stands so people would buy tickets elsewhere, then didn't even open them and made fans go to lower stands or floor. A bunch of people also got in for free. And even then the floor wasn't even close to full and neither were the lower stands. It's all on twitter and there's pictures and video of it if you want to look it up.

If he even repeated his 25,000 crowd I'd be shocked. But he definitely didn't grow this audience. It was as small as before, at best.

And this is an example of him somewhere he's loved. He also did Allianz Parque, which is a stadium as well, but he cropped the stadium to fit only a fraction of its normal attendance.

This is Allianz Parque for Harry

This is Allianz parque for Louis

Harry had three shows in Allianz Parque which had a combined attendance of 137,009. Each show roughly 45/46K. That is a third of that stadium. And Louis did not sell out, there were tickets available in all sections right up until the moment the show started. Louis had one show. You can see the empty seats in multiple videos on Twitter. Meaning, Louis' attendance was at best 15K. That is, once again, the same exact audience he had for his previous tour.

Not tripled, not double, not even grown! Same audience.

What his fans gloated about the most was a show in Mexico and people use this aerial pic to show the audience and be like "oh wow"

Those... those are seats. Every single person in that picture is sitting down (or at least has access to a reserved seat). It is indeed a lot of people, particularly for someone who can't write music (admitted by himself), writes trite lyrics, can't sing, and can't play instruments. But that's not "70,000." You have to be particularly bad at gauging crowds to believe it is.

This is a standing, crowded audience of 83,000 (Harry at Slane). Not only is the physical space already much, much bigger, but people are standing up, elbow to elbow. Not sitting down ON A CHAIR.

How is it possible for this fully GA crowd in a much bigger space to be only 13K more than a sitting down crowd in like half the space? You guys defy the laws of physics at this point. I know perspective might kick your ass, but look at the size of the stages to compare, look at how tiny Harry's looks because of how far away the picture was taken. You can see the roof of the stage in Louis' show in the picture above.

The 70,000 number came from a fan and people just ran with it, particularly multiple Spanish speaking blogs who aren't very reputable. The actual attendance was 32,000. I know there's a source for this but I didn't save it, it was an official Mexican news outlet who spoke with the organizers.

That is a lot of people! But it wasn't sold out, and once again, his attendance in 2023 wasn't far off? It was 23K.

And that is because harry being active or not has no impact on Louis' career. Harry's fans by and large do not GAF about Louis.

Harry has 63,890,885 monthly listeners on Spotify. Louis has 2,513,662.

And btw, his two most popular songs are collaborations, meaning most of those monthly listeners don't come from actually listening to him, but from listening to those two songs with two other artists. Bebe Rexha has 42,805,994 monthly listeners. Her collab with Louis is not in the top 10 of her most popular tracks, it is the most popular track for him. Steve Aoki has 13,765,900 monthly listeners, and his collab with Louis is also not in his top 10 most popular tracks. It's Louis' second most popular track.

Of course, Louis' fans (mainly Larries) believe the world is conspiring against him and Spotify is actually forging these numbers, for some reason. Even though his actual number of streams fits perfectly with this. And he gets paid from those streams, so that number gets audited and reviewed by lawyers. Spotify can't just claim whatever lol.

This is a festival (Arre in 2023) on the same ground as Louis' show with actual 70,000 attendance, but it's not seated, it's GA.

Presumably this is where they got the number.

Here you have an entire Wikipedia article about the difference. Seated capacity tends to be roughly half of standing capacity. So half of 70,000 is... 35,000! Which is what organizers said was his actual attendance (32K actually, I remember that number vividly, I wish I had saved the source, but I'm sure we can find it if we actually look for it, I just don't speak Spanish).

Anyway, no, his crowds didn't triple. They didn't even grow. He has the same captive audience as always and it's mostly just conspiracy theorists. In the US and Europe his attendance was low as ever.

[allhereincolour]

i’m intrigued as to what outfits 5sos are gonna be rocking next tour because we’ve had some interesting swings between aesthetics for all 4 of them throughout the tours 😭😭

like in my ideal world luke would bring back the skinny jeans and jackets with the silk shirts like youngblood era

i actually rlly fucked w the tmh suits as well but i LOVED youngblood/mytt luke’s aesthetic

for michael i rlly loved the skinny jeans and cool shirts on t5st but pryzm michael😭😭💜💜

i want calum to bring back the cool jackets n shit like he had on mytt 😭😭😭😭 but i fucked w the star shirts heavy

and ashton also ate the fuck up during youngblood/mytt BUT ALSO THE MESH SHIRT FOR THE TODAY SHOW But i can’t remember what he’s wearing half the time because they love to tuck him away at the back of the stage

we will see if next tour they’re gonna be coordinating for once or have their own random ass aesthetics like usual

[romilly-jay]

Something Echoing Between Art Forms

***mild spoilers***

Went to a radio audience recording earlier and finally got started on Natasha Pulley's The Mars House.

Had to pause almost immediately though because I hadn't quite absorbed that one of the MCs is called January...

Cute name - but the reason it caught my attention is that this is the second time in a month I've read a story with a MC called January.

Is there something in the water?

The other one was January Andrews, in Emily Henry's Beach Read - which I might possibly have forgotten (despite the name turning into an explicit plot point), except that the books JA is mentioned as working on turn up in bookshops in EH's later story, Book Lovers.

I'm genuinely on board when I see a move like this - and would you believe it, but NP does something similar in The Mars House, name-checking her earlier characters from The Watchmaker of Filigree Street. Which I haven't read yet but is looking likely to make it onto my TBR list, judging by how I've adored the first 100 pages of TMH.

I'm not the only one who has enjoyed it - very positive review in The Guardian's round up of new SF, from a couple of months ago:

And Stuart Turton was really warm about it (and NP generally) when it and she came up in conversation during his Waterstones book tour for The Last Murder at the End of the World. [Their books came out within a couple of weeks of each other, I think?]

I'm now committed. Fizzing with anticipation for the rest of the book and very slightly concerned that it can't *possibly* live up to its blazingly strong start - whilst also quietly urging it to do so!!

PS I've now read the rest of this. I loved it. LOVED it. Loved how it tackled its topics. Loved the MCs. Loved all the linguistics insights. Extra loved the use of footnotes. Even loved the ahem unexpected cameo / plot twist at around the 2/3rds mark which probably divided the audience - I'm imagining... Anyway, Will Write More About This at some point but for now moving this into Sept, out of the way of the blah blah about romcoms and action movies. Even though this book is by no means out of place with either of these subject groups <3

[ghost-of-you]

You know what’s a tad funny? 5SOS may have learned personal space over the years, but then they released a song called Best Friends, seemingly just to talk about how much they all love one another. They just replaced constant physical contact with a public (and permanent) verbal declaration of how important they are to one another

I thinks there's a lot of the fact that they were all each other had for a while there in the beginning? Because they were living together and working together and doing a 100 shows a year and recording with no breaks and they were so young when it all started? It makes sense for them to latch on the whatever form of comfort they could find and the only constant thing they had were the 4 of them? But as they got older they learned how to balance that better, as they talked about multiple times in the more recent years, about how to exist outside of the band, but that would never actually lessen the bond they have. And sure, they are not on top of each other on the couch backstage the way they were during the self titled era, but if you look at the tmh tour and this tour, they are still very much in each other spaces, but it's clear that it's less about looking comfort and more about showing appreciation. They are very clear with the these are my best friends in the world, I love them and I love that I get to love them, which is the whole thing about best friends and I love that for them.

[zeroeightzeroone]

Yes yesssss, I am a biiig one direction fan!! I love them so much 🥺 love the pipe line directions/5sosfam/stay, feels natural ✨

Me too, I'll be in debt for ever but I will be happy! Hopefully we can get tickets if they decide to have a reunion tour (or a mitam tour, whatever comes first) 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 I never never had the chance to see 1d and 5sos together :( but I did see 1d in the TMH tour

Music reminds of simpler times 😮‍💨 all of my teen years are 1d/5sos coded

That clip of skz singing wmyb and youngblood makes me incredibly happy! But also knowing that Michael knows of Felix (pls, just one 5sos/aussie line reunion 🤞🏻)

you're so lucky to have seen 1d in concert 🥲🥲

my teen years are also 1d/5sos coded! now my 20s are gonna be kpop coded haha

if i see 5sos, lix and chan in one pic ill actually scream, two worlds colliding

[wiiildflowerrr]

11 Nov 2013: 'here's part two and the final video of our australia & nz TMH tour diaries!! :D the past few months have been seriouslyy amazing and we're so lucky we got to tour the world and play our music for you. It's been the craziest experience of our lives so far.. We've played to over 1 million this year.. wtf. We can't thank 1D enough for having us on this tour and making us such lucky lads to experience it. X'

October 10, 2013 ➟ two years since 5SOS got excited over a rainbow

[nandini849]

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[ijustdontlikepeople]

Update to a poster design from pre-album title release

[calumsash]

hamburg final bow ft. cashton (source)

[bestyearssos]

My view from the 3rd row last night at TMH philly last night. Literally THE BEST night of my life I will never talk about anything else ever again 🥰🥰

[caramelcalum]

pov cam part 1 x

[drewstarkey]

🌀 easier - take my hand tour - 22.04.22 🌀

[thesound1989]

[lovetilltheam]

Disconnected

London, round 2 | 06/04/2022

[myownangel]

5 Seconds Of Summer, Mexico City.

May 18th 2022