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Τheon gifting Robb this wolf underwear thinking it's the coolest thing ever:
And Robb thinking it's the cringest present he has receive but pretending otherwise in order not to hurt Theon's feelings.
The rest Stark siblings are forever laughing about it.
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Just some Throbb headcanons to celebrate Throbb fortnight!
- Robb is somewhat of a momma’s boy, but like in a good way
- Speaking of Catelyn, Theon has def accidentally called her mom a few times
- Jon thinks he is cursed because he keeps walking in on Robb and Theon
- Theon likes to whittle little figurines out of wood and gives them to Robb
- When Robb isn’t around, Grey Wind sleeps with Theon
- Robb is afraid of the ocean, and will only go on a boat if Theon is with him
- Robb gets flustered really easily, Theon likes to tease him in public about it
- When Theon first came to Winterfell, he would often have nightmares and Robb would always be there to comfort him
- When Robb first started crushing on Theon, he pretended to be bad at archery so Theon would help him
- Theon and Robb tried to keep their relationship secret, but they were really bad at it
#throbb#theon greyjoy x robb stark#theon greyjoy#robb stark#asoiaf#house stark#game of thrones#catelyn stark#jon snow#throbbfortnight#headcanon#im kinda delulu#dont judge lol
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Robb forgives what Theon did because he loves Theon deeply and wants a happy life with him <<<<<<<<<<<<< Robb forgives Theon for what he did because he is possesive and is basically lovesick
#gays on the fyp#theon greyjoy#game of thrones#theon greyjoy x robb stark#robb stark#game of thrones incorrect quotes#robb stark x theon greyjoy#throbb game of thrones#throbb meme#game of thrones throbb#throbb#throbb headcannon#theon Greyjoy headcannon#theon headcanon#robb stark headcannon#robb got#got#got headcanons#possessive robb stark my beloved#possesive robb stark#possessive
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HC: Theon got it for him and really loves when he wears it 🥹
Saw this meme and had to draw modern Robb Stark
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kind gestures svt would make to their s/o without them realizing
warnings: descriptions; headcanons; gn (mostly) reader self insert;
pairings: svt x gn reader
gender/aus: super fluff
Scoups
Protecting you from getting hurt.
He's a protector… period. We all know that already. He's the leader of seventeen, the leader of carats, this man is used to taking control of the situation and it's almost instinctive for him. Cheol simply doesn't notice the way he puts his hand on the edge of the table so you don't hit your head when you get up. He doesn't notice the protective hand on your back, urging you into the first seats. He notices even less the way he wakes up in the middle of the night because he knows you're moving around in a strange and potentially dangerous position for your back. It's just natural.
Jeonghan
Brushing or drying your hair.
On those occasions when you've had a bad day, your head is throbbbing and all you want is to be looked after by your boyfriend, you can bet that Jeonghan will do it. He'll follow your hair care routine step by step to the letter. Jeonghan has such a light hand that you fall asleep whenever he's gently brushing your hair. When your entire post-bath routine is complete, he'll arrange your sleeping body on the bed, he'll lie down next to you and you'll sleep together until the next day.
Joshua
Stands behind you when you're wearing skirts or shorts to avoid any accidents.
If you need to climb stairs, he'll be right behind you. If you need to pick something up, he'll hold the end of your skirt between his fingers so that it doesn't ride up. If you drop something on the floor (and Shua can't get down faster than you), he'll take a few steps to the side to cover you. It doesn't matter if you're wearing protective shorts or not, Joshua doesn't want you to become the object of evil looks or comments.
Jun
Does never admit that he hates your musical taste.
You will turn on the speakers before cleaning the house or just for vibing around and Jun already know what's coming. He absolutely hates the loud songs you listen to, but he'll never actually say it. If he's really invested into pampering you, he'll even nod and say “wow, that one's good, babe”. He doesn't like the songs, but he loves seeing you dance to them happily. Eventually becomes attached to the music because it reminds him of you.
Hoshi
Put on or take off your shoes.
He will do this without hesitation. The minute you leave the house, Hoshi will take the shoes from your hands, kneel down in front of you and help you put them on. If it's a pair of sneakers, he'll make an extra effort to tie the laces. If they're heels (especially with straps) Hoshi will make a point of dragging his nails along the back of your calf, just because he thinks it's funny to see your leg fail. He's a prankster.
Wonwoo
Google the things you mention.
If Wonwoo doesn't know about something you like or something you've mentioned, he'll research it later. He wants to be a part of every part of your life and uses these little details to reaffirm his love for you. So if there's a new skincare routine that you're dying to try, Wonwoo will research everything about it so that he can accompany you when you buy it, or help you when you apply it, or nod when you explain the function and order of every. single. product. You were talking to him about some "primer" and "foundation" stuff that he's not aware of? He'll google what it is as soon as you finish.
Woozi
Solves your problems so you don't have to worry.
Woozi might do bureaucratic things for you. You know those grown-up things that nobody wants to do? Like, you need to call the bank? He's already got the phone in his hand. Do you need to make a doctor's appointment? He'll do it for you. Filing your taxes or making the grocery list? Don't worry about it.
Dokyeom
Carrying you.
Dok is a strong boy, like he has big arms. And he likes it when you look impressed by that, it's a surprise every time you remember that your adorable puppy boyfie is actually a HUGE man. So every time you're coming back from an event, or somewhere you've had to wear heels, Dok will lift you up bridal style and carry you to the car, then to the door of the house, or to the bedroom…
Mingyu
Cares about your food (what a surprise).
If you order something with strawberries, he'll order it too just to give you his strawberry, because even though he likes strawberries, you like strawberries more, so he doesn't mind going the rest of his life without eating strawberries. If you're eating while walking in the street and Mingyu sees that you're struggling to eat while holding a can of soda, he'll hold it out to you and keep offering it to you until you've finished eating. Mingyu just wants to see you well fed, because he's happy to see the little weeds you make when you eat something you really like.
Minghao
Discreet PDA when you're tired.
Minghao will discreetly intertwine his pinky in yours if he notices that you're starting to feel overwhelmed in a crowded environment, he'll be your main object of comfort. In fact, he'll do this even if you only really like physical touch, despite not being the biggest fan of pda. It's the perfect blend of affectionate and discreet.
Seungkwan
Takes high care of your health.
He is always the first one to ask you how your doctor appointment went out. He buys you vitamins and cooks you proper meals. Boo is just always reminding you of drinking water and stretching when you've been sitting in the same position for a while. He just can't stand the thought of you in pain or ill. He WILL come up with the "your body is a temple" talk, you can't escape it.
Vernon
Gives up some of his habits for you without you realizing it.
He's said to be mostly a disorganized person, but as soon as you start living together, he'll subtly change a few habits to make you comfortable - especially if he knows you like things tidy. So don't be surprised if he starts folding both of your clothes and making your bed in the morning for the next few weeks. He'll do these tiny little things. He probably wouldn't turn into Mr. Cleanest overnight, but he would do these little tasks for you.
Dino
Carrying your bags and opening doors.
Dino never lets you carry anything, or open doors or anything that requires using your hands. You don't have to because, after all, he's there to do all that. It doesn't matter if it's light, if it's heavy, if it's just your cell phone… he'll carry it for you. No argument there. And yes, I'm totally influenced by that video of his. If Dino sees you with anything in your hand, he'll rush to take it from you. If you need to call the elevator, he'll rush to do it before you even think about it.
#'svt x reader#svt scenarios#svt fluff#seventeen#svt imagines#svt headcanons#seventeen x reader#seventeen fanfic#svt x you#svt reactions#seventeen reactions#slightly suggestive
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KINK LIST With Benjicot Blackwood
A = Aftercare (What they’re like after sex)
As soon as it's over, Benjicot is as sweet as honey to you, constantly trying to give you all the love in the world and make sure you're comfortable and relaxed. He'll give you a lot of attention and try his hardest to hold conversations with you, as hard as it becomes. He's also very protective so, if he notices a small little bruise on you, he's gonna worry about it so much and try to gently caress it to ease your pain. If you want to stay in bed a little bit, he'll stay with you too, holding you closely.
B = Body part (Their favorite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)
His favorite parts of himself are his eyes, he thinks they look very kind and gentle which reflects his personality well. For his partner, he loves your hands the most. He finds them so soft and delicate, he loves holding them whenever he can and kissing them affectionately.
C = Cum (Anything to do with cum basically… I’m a disgusting person)
He doesn’t mind cumming on your stomach, chest, or breasts. It feels good to release there, knowing that you will carry his essence around all day.
D = Dirty Secret (Pretty self-explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)
One of his dirty secrets...is that sometimes, when you're alone, he likes to play with himself while watching you. Seeing you go about your day, unaware that he's fantasizing about fucking you senseless, gets him so hard. He's jerked off to thoughts of bending you over the kitchen table, spreading those luscious thighs wide open, and pounding into you until you scream his name.
E = Experience (How experienced are they? Do they know what they’re doing?)
He isn't exactly inexperienced. He's been with some women before, but none of them have ever meant anything to him. With you, however, it's different. There's something about the way you move, the sound of your moans, the taste of your skin that makes every touch feel new and exciting. He knows how to please a woman, and he takes great pride in making sure you're satisfied.
F = Favorite Position (This goes without saying. Will probably include a visual)
His favorite position would definitely be doggy style. He loves seeing your ass high in the air, jiggling with each thrust, feeling the clench of your pussy around his cock as he pounds into you. The sight of your tits swaying back and forth, the way your hair falls over your face, it drives him wild.
G = Goofy (Are they more serious in the moment, or are they humorous, etc)
In the heat of passion, he's usually quite serious. His focus is entirely on pleasuring you, making sure you're enjoying yourself as much as he is. But afterwards, once the intensity fades away, he might crack a joke or two. He loves seeing that playful side of yours come out, the one that laughs at his silly antics and teases him right back.
H = Hair (How well groomed are they, does the carpet match the drapes, etc.)
He keeps his hair neat and trimmed, usually styled in a simple yet elegant manner. It matches the rest of him – clean-cut, attractive. But underneath those clothes lies another story. He's got plenty of growing muscle hidden beneath his armor, toned from years of training and combat.
I = Intimacy (How are they during the moment, romantic aspect…)
When it comes to intimacy, he tries to make it as special as possible. Whether it's lighting candles, playing soft music, or whispering sweet words in your ear, he wants you to feel cherished and adored. He takes his time exploring your body, savoring every curve and crevice, determined to bring you to heights of pleasure you've never known before.
J = Jack Off (Masturbation headcanon)
When he masturbates, it's often late at night when everyone else is asleep. He'd lie in bed, hands roaming over his own body as he thinks about you - your smile, your laugh, the way you look when you're caught off guard by desire. He strokes himself slowly at first, imagining those soft lips wrapped around his throbbing member instead of just his own hand.
K = Kink (One or more of their kinks)
He has a few kinks that he's not necessarily proud of, but can't help indulging in now and then. One of them is voyeurism - getting turned on by watching you undress or touch yourself when you think no one's looking. Another is a bit of light bondage - maybe tying your wrists together with a silk scarf, pinning you down and taking control until you're begging for release. And let's not forget his love of dirty talk - describing in vivid detail exactly what he wants to do to you, how he wants to make you feel.
L = Location (Favorite places to do the do)
His favorite place to make love to you is probably the four-poster bed in his chambers. The massive wooden frame provides a sense of grandeur, and the plush mattresses ensure a comfortable ride. But he also enjoys taking you outdoors, finding secluded spots amidst the rolling hills and verdant forests surrounding his home. Sometimes he'll lay you down on a blanket spread across the grass, making love to you under the open sky with nothing but the sounds of nature for company.
M = Motivation (What turns them on, gets them going)
The sight of you, glowing and panting, is enough to get him hard in seconds flat. But there are certain things that really turn him on - like seeing you dressed up provocatively in lingerie or high heels; hearing you moan his name as he thrusts into you; feeling your nails digging into his back as he claims your mouth with his own. And don't even get him started on the idea of dominating you completely - taking charge, telling you exactly what he wants from you and how he wants it done.
N = NO (Something they wouldn’t do, turn offs)
There are a few things that would definitely turn him off. For starters, he hates it when someone tries to use him solely for their own pleasure without reciprocating. He needs to know you're enjoying yourself too, otherwise it feels empty and unsatisfying. He's also not a fan of public displays of affection, preferring to keep his intimate moments private. And finally, he draws the line at anything involving pain or humiliation for its own sake - if it's not consensual or serves some greater purpose, he's not interested.
O = Oral (Preference in giving or receiving, skill, etc)
Benjicot is quite skilled with his tongue, able to bring you to climax with ease. He loves the taste of your arousal, savoring every drop as he laps at your folds before delving deeper to stimulate your clit. He's particularly fond of going down on you after you've come hard on his cock, drinking down your juices as he continues to pleasure you with his mouth and fingers. In return, he adores having your mouth on him, craving the warmth and wetness as you take him deep, your tongue swirling around his shaft and teasing the sensitive underside.
P = Pace (Are they fast and rough? Slow and sensual? etc.)
It depends on the situation and mood. When you're alone and have all night ahead of you, he tends towards slow and sensual – lingering kisses, gentle touches that tease rather than satisfy immediately. But once he's inside you, his pace quickens considerably – long powerful strokes designed to hit all your sweet spots over and over again until you're writhing beneath him in pleasure. If time is limited or you're caught up in passion, however, he can be quite rough – pounding into you fiercely as he chases his own release.
Q = Quickie (Their opinions on quickies rather than proper sex, how often, etc.)
He doesn't mind a quickie now and then, especially if they're caught up in the heat of the moment or pressed for time. But he prefers to take his time with you whenever possible – he finds true satisfaction in exploring every inch of you slowly, savoring each reaction and response. That said, he knows life doesn't always allow for leisurely lovemaking sessions... which is why he's learned to make the most out of whatever time they have together.
R = Risk (Are they game to experiment, do they take risks, etc.)
Ben is definitely game to experiment and willing to take risks when it comes to your sexual encounters. He loves pushing boundaries – trying new positions, introducing toys or restraints into the playtime, even roleplaying scenarios that might seem far-fetched at first glance. As long as it's something you're both comfortable with and enjoy doing together, he's ready for anything.
S = Stamina (How many rounds can they go for, how long do they last…)
He has impressive stamina, able to maintain his performance for several rounds without tiring easily. His endurance allows him to prolong the pleasure – whether it's taking you over and over again or keeping you satisfied with oral sex until you're both exhausted. He takes pride in being able to please you for hours on end if necessary.
T = Toy (Do they own toys? Do they use them? On a partner or themselves?)
He owns a variety of toys, including vibrators, dildos, butt plugs, handcuffs and blindfolds. He enjoys using them on himself occasionally - especially when he wants to experience something different or needs some extra stimulation. He also uses them on you sometimes – either during regular lovemaking sessions or when you're feeling particularly adventurous.
U = Unfair (how much they like to tease)
He does enjoy teasing you now and then, finding delight in leaving you wanting more before finally granting your desires. This could mean denying you orgasm until he decides you've earned it, or deliberately focusing attention on your erogenous zones just enough to keep you on edge without fully satisfying you. He finds the anticipation and desperation you feel in those moments incredibly arousing.
V = Volume (How loud they are, what sounds they make)
He isn't shy about making noise during sex – moans, groans, gasps of pleasure or pain, depending on what feels good to him at the time. Sometimes he'll whisper dirty words in your ear or growl encouragingly against your skin as he thrusts into you. The louder noises tend to come when he's close to climax.
W = Wild Card (Get a random headcanon for the character of your choice)
In addition to his physical prowess, Benjicot also possesses a sharp wit and a dry sense of humor. He's known to crack jokes during intimate moments – whether it's making light-hearted comments about the positions or quipping sarcastically when things get too intense. It helps keep things fun and lighthearted despite the raw passion between you.
X = X-Ray (Let’s see what’s going on in those pants, picture or words)
His cock is 7 inches long, uncut with a slight curve towards the tip. It's always hard and leaking pre-cum. He always has a thick load of creamy white cum that drips out when he orgasms.
Y = Yearning (How high is their sex drive?)
His sex drive is exceptionally high – he craves intimacy and satisfaction constantly. Even when you aren't actively engaged in lovemaking, he often finds himself thinking about how much he wants you – what he'd do given half a chance to satisfy his urges. It fuels his desire to please you every time they come together physically.
Z = ZZZ (… how quickly they fall asleep afterwards)
He tends to fall asleep fairly quickly after sex – exhaustion setting in from the intensity of their activities combined with the deep relaxation that follows release. His body still tingles with lingering sensations as he drifts off, leaving you alone in bed with thoughts swirling around in your mind about what just happened.
#benjicot blackwood#benjicot x reader#benjicot blackwood x reader#benjicot blackwood x you#benjicot blackwood x yn#house of the dragon#hotd#house of the dragon smut#hotd smut#kink list
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This post concludes Throbb Fortnight 2023. We are sad to see it end, as all good things must, but it was a joy and an honor to share these two weeks with all of you, celebrating our favorite boys and their multifaceted, messy and thrilling relationship! Thank you so much to everyone who created for this event, as well as everyone who reblogged, commented, liked and helped us promote and spread the throbb love ❤
If you had wanted to participate but did not get a chance for whatever reason, or had hoped to post more works but ran out of time, please feel free to continue posting under the #throbbfortnight tag and we will continue to reblog your work here. The Throbb Fortnight AO3 Collection will also stay open for posting. Throbb is now and always in our hearts 💛🖤🤍
(In addition, if you are interested in joining a Throbb discord server to celebrate Theon and Robb all day every day, please reach out to @wexpyke or @fineosaur for an invite!)
Below the cut is the masterlist of all the fanworks created for Throbb Fortnight 2023.
🐺WORKS MASTERLIST🦑
ART
I had no choice by @lycorim In His Chambers by @evax3
GIFS & EDITS
Favorite (fanfic) quotes by @team-mom-wannabe Favorite (fanfic) scenes by @team-mom-wannabe Favorite Scene by @selkiewife Friendship and Brotherhood & Trust and Loyalty by @theonsource / @selkiewife I burned so long so quiet by @alleyskywalker I should have been with him by @theonsource / @alleyskywalker He looks on me as an older brother by @alleyskywalker Houses Greyjoy and Stark by @carrizoblooms Houses Greyjoy and Stark - Points of views on the Greyjoy Rebellion by @team-mom-wannabe "No Stark but Robb was ever brotherly toward me" by @carrizoblooms Parallels by @selkiewife Parallels/Similarities by @alleyskywalker Throbb + Coriolanus by @team-mom-wannabe
FANFIC | Throbb Fortnight AO3 Collection
Crosswinds Rising by @lycorim-ao3 find me in the shallows by oceaniads here’s to now (and to nothing else) by @wexpyke If You Start To Doze (I'll Tuck You In) by @alleyskywalker In His Chambers by @evax3 Morning Routine by @alleyskywalker overexposed by oceaniads A Soft Epilogue by @alleyskywalker table for two by oceaniads tangled up in morning white by oceaniads To Give and Take by @lycorim-ao3 to lie down with dogs by @sowthetide Tore My Heart In Sunder by @alleyskywalker you had heart where you should have had brains by @team-mom-wannabe
PLAYLISTS/FANMIXES
List of songs that are *definitely* about Robb and Theon by @oh1theseus
HEADCANONS
Cooking headcanon by @knownoking Throbb headcanons by @knownoking
RECS
Aground fic rec by @ironbornsource Childhood/Pre-Canon recs by @team-mom-wannabe Fic Recs: Days 1-5 by @alleyskywalker Fic Recs Days 6-10 by @alleyskywalker Fic Recs Days 11-14 by @alleyskywalker Seawater King fic rec by @ironbornsource
#throbbfortnight#theon x robb#theon & robb#throbb#theon greyjoy#robb stark#asoiaf#got#event masterlist
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I’ve been saying over and over again that Mat and Rand are the “happy” version of Throbb. I personally didn’t see the paragon between Theon and Egwain (if anything she’s Jeyne W imho) but that’s probably because of that final scene of the spear (?! I definitely don’t have a throbb fic planned out about it).
It’s not about characters as it is, but more like a physical similarity to me
I watched Wheel of Time because my crush (goddess) Kate Fleetwood is playing Liandrin in it. And also because people were saying that Mat Cauthon reminded them of Theon. First, Kate is BRILLIANT as always. And YES Mat is very Theony! I see it. I enjoy it. Not completely of course- but no one is ever completely Theon with ALL the aspects- nor should they be! Mat is his own character that I am enjoying thinking about on his own. And there are obviously huge differences in their circumstances. But the vibes are there definitely. But as I watched more of it, another character that I ended up connecting with Theon is Egwene. Did anyone else feel the same?? (@alleyskywalker this was in my drafts when I saw your comments on the gifset I reblogged- so maybe you feel this way too??) Also thinking about how in the show, Egwene is allowed to keep her name whereas Theon is not (though I've heard in the books that is different?) I will also be reading the books soon. I want to watch the whole thing again and then I'm going to start reading the series. There are obvious parallels between the torture of Theon and Egwene but I also think their characterizations have similarities as well. I will probably write more about this later when I get my thoughts together. Just wanted to know if any other Theon fans felt the same about these characters?
#theon greyjoy#egwene al'vere#mat cauthon#I’ll tell my children mat and rand are the real throbb headcanon#the wheel of time#wot#game of thrones#got#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf
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Was there any responses on the Theon survey that made you feel differently about a certain headcanon, fandom trend or ship?
Thank you for your patience. It is uncommon for people to ask about my opinions but it brought a smile to my face, and your politeness only added to it.
To answer your question, sadly not, but there were still some developments on my perceptions.
Fandomwise I was mostly proven right over things I suspected in the past both in things I find uplifting and things that I find upsetting (TCKs and colonialism children in the Theon corner preferring Dany over Sansa and usually disliking the Theon/Stark ships, Robb Stark being a gift as the prevalent perception among throbb shippers, most people not caring about Jeyne Poole, thramsays being unhinged but very respectful and careful about people's boundaries) but there were a few things that had a positive reaction in me and maybe prepared me for changes.
I think I've made clear how I don't like engaging with Theon/Stark ships and sadly when it came to the squid prince and the steel skinned princess this didn't change at all, on the contrary, but when it came to the squid prince and the wolf-headed boy I was confronted with smaller subsets of the fandom that I felt could actually get me into it.
I used to be a lot more open about the later ship but as time passed it was ruined for me due to many personal vexations involving interpretation, (dismissal or vilification of) characters, themes and the constant use of show-scenes and quotes, but some of the responses from throbb people came very close to things I would theoretically enjoy in them as a ship (and as a closer characterisation of how I perceive Robb, clearly not a villain or an evil-doer but not someone I'd want to spend time with).
Nothing fully changed my mind, I didn't always agree with their reasoning and I am still sceptical because this was only a minority, but I think to some extent it made me more curious and, admittedly, less judgemental.
Here are some examples I am allowed to quote:
On Throbb as a ship, by throbb people
I only mildly dabble in shipping in asoiaf at all, however Throbb Is nice as when its done well It tends to have a lot of what I like (kidfic, canon divergences with some political element and happening around the early ACOK node, very specific hurt comfort dynamics, role reversals (enjoy Robb Is the one who had to experience Ramsay AUs even) exploration of the cultural/identity issues through conflicing loyalty etc . It rigorously has to be by people who love Theon better than Robb though
I'm someone where I will take whatever I can get tbh. All of the above. I do really enjoy stories where Robb is a darker character though, and relishes in the power he holds over Theon. Also just like playing with the theme of the Starks being wolves? And how the Ironborn were called like sea wolves by those in the riverlands and westerlands. It's very fun. I also do indulge in modern AUs where Theon is an unofficial member of the Starks. It's just very comfy. I like it less-so in canon fics because I think it very much writes off Ironborn culture in place of Northern culture. I am picky with them though because some of them are very much in the lane of "the Starks can do no wrong" and nope, the Starks can and have.
I am truly here for literally any Theon ship and they all appeal to me in different ways for different reasons. Robb and Theon - Personally I think it's really interesting how Robb is upheld as this very honourable gentleman-type but he never calls out Theon on his horrible treatment of women or other uncouth behaviour and it's suggested he actually kind of admires him for it? It gives me the impression that Robb lives vicariously through Theon a little bit and I'm fascinated by the idea of them being devoted to each other but also jealous of each other? We never see Robb's POV in the books but I think he's interesting to view through a lens of a young guy with an immense amount of pressure and responsibility on his shoulders (even before Ned dies he has the responsibility of being heir and the pressure to live up to the Stark name). I imagine that Theon is one of the few people Robb felt he could be himself around without any pressure to be respectable or honourable. He probably craves the relative freedom Theon has whole Theon longs for the status and respect that Robb has. It's an interesting dynamic! Also there's the fact that Robb is literally the only person who likes Theon and trusts him when no one else does which makes it even more heartbreaking when he betrays him.
On whether Robb Stark is a gift or not, by throbb people
No. Lol. I mean, the thing is, Robb isn’t really a terrible person or anything – book!Robb especially is young and inexperienced and genuinely seems to be trying his best in a situation that is understandably overwhelming. That said, he’s careless, self-righteous, over-privileged, emotionally manipulative, a bit vainglorious and sometimes extremely selfish, and has a tendency to do things like blame the easiest, most vulnerable (as well as the one most likely to forgive him) target for his own mistakes. He’s somewhat emotionally constipated and fairly low on empathy. He's very loyal to his family (but as we see with Sansa, it’s far from unconditional) and I think he does try to do right by people, especially those he cares about, overall. However, in the context of his relationship with Theon (where this seems to be most prominent as a Concept) he fails rather significantly and the relationship is not nonredeemable or anything, but definitely toxic.
I've only got the impression that he is a gift by reading bran's, Jon's and Arya's chapters not by theon's. In book 1 he is such an asshole to him in that bran chapter... It's more fanon I think to make Robb a gift specifically to Theon and I understand it, the show gave to us a closer relationship and many liked it and projected to Robb a caring attitude we wanted someone to have towards Theon, at least that's how it worked for me idk. Also the potential for romance, angst and tragedy by making them closer is just *chefs kiss is Robb a gift? yes is he one to Theon? they definitely have love between them but I don't think he is one to Theon.
Robb Stark as a character can really be anything you want him to be. I think only seeing him through other POV characters (especially his family) was a stroke of genius on George's part, just as we first meet Stannis in person through Maester Cressen, and later experience him through Davos' eyes (two people who love him deeply). Robb was a 16 year old dealing with some incredibly high stakes situations and a number of traumatic losses. He's mostly just tragic to me.
I still think Robb's relationships to the women in his life (Cat, Jeyne, Sansa, Arya and Dacey) are more interesting to me since they are usually explored by fandom in a more ambiguous and, in my opinion, more canon-compliant light, but yeah these made me reconsider my negative feelings about Throbb.
To some extent this also happened with Theyne, a ship I do ship but always felt weird about and sometimes had this stupid and prideful type of wish to differentiate myself from the shippers who engaged with it in a more "wholesome" manner. I came to see a lot more interest in dubious and less-positive takes on the dynamic in some of the responses and it was oddly relieving, it made me less conscious about my self-perceived discredit of the text when adding romantic connotations to Theon and Jeyne's canon dynamic (although they are somewhat present in the text too. ?????weird situationship of mutual victimhood and hellish non-consensual polycule with their torturer acting as matchmaker, third wheel and sicko lurking on the window)
[...] If it happens, it will be later down the line, probably during a potential recovery arc or even at the very end of the books. I would like to see how that plays out and I think Jeyne as his co-survivor of torture would probably be the most interesting person to play that out with because there is a common history that will remain a can of worms between them, but Jeyne seems to be (just like Kyra who came to Theon with the keys even though she didn't have to do that for her rapist!) a genuinely caring, empathetic and kind person who seems to have already bonded with Theon, seemingly knowing that he just like her did not participate willingly in her rape even though he had been compliant to his torturer's demands out of fear. And all that probably holds true even if he is still in survival mode of "I have saved Lady Arya (do not take on your actual name because that will get us both thrown back to the Boltons, this charade ain't over yet, please keep this charade up for your and my safety)". Jeyne has been badly maimed and (not only, but predominantly sexually) tortured herself, of course, so I suspect that the bond they both share will be fraught with fears and pain and ugly memories that migth feel more pressing than just memories (hello, PTSD), but i can see a way forward for both of them that I cannot see for either Jeyne and anyone else or Theon and anyone else (apart from familial bonds that Theon still has. Jeyne has no-one but Theon now, her parents are both dead and any other relatives haven't stepped up when Littlefinger sex trafficked her and Ramsay ended up repeatedly raping, maiming and psychologically torturing her). They will probably at first feel not great with each other, but I truly believe that they can help each other heal as far as possible or at least manage the aftermath of such severe torture of all kings. If he (Theon) does end up in some capacity in a romantic or sexual re-exploration of identity through a relationship of some sort, I suspect that Jeyne, who was co-tortured sexually alongside and through him (not that he was a willing participant, just someone trying to survive, doing the least harmful thing for both himself and Jeyne by partaking in being forced to rape her for Ramsay while thus becoming a victim of rape himself; apart from his former strongly insinuated sexual abuse and possible genital mutilation), might be the only person able and willing to even entertain the idea of a romantic and/or sexual connection to him, even though I think that her own state after all the sexual and other abuse means that that will be very, very far into the future. Both will probably feel safer not engaging in anything sexual for a long while, if ever, and as for romance, I think it'll probably take on a very fragile, small-gestures-of-care type of form that's more reminiscent of familial love and care rather than passionate. Both will have struggles expressing their minds, their wants and needs freely, both will be scared of physical touch probably, but then there's that image of Jeyne, half-dead herself, extending empathy to Theon and stroking his cheek telling him "you saved me", so there's that part of caring about someone already that seems like some glimmer of hope for both of them. If Theon makes it out alive through the books, I can see him ending up on the Iron Islands and her married to him for protection's sake (seeing as she's got no-one else in the world, and he has proven himself to care for her by saving her from Bolton Winterfell; while nobody else will care enough about her, or him or even be remotely positive towards him to facilitate some other marriage. She's only a steward's daugther, but a minor noble house is still a noble house, so I don't see why in-world class issues would make this impossible. It would grant both of them a safe space to recover from the abuse through each other's now safe company, and maybe find a way to love and be loved despite being more or less dead to the rest of society for various reasons. [...]
Jeyne and Theon - I think their relationship is really interesting to explore as a kind of co-dependant comforting thing where no one else quite understands their shared trauma and neither of them quite trust anyone else any more. But also they have this really soft affection for each other and see things in each other that no one else does. I think they're both seen as kind of irredeemably broken and pathetic post-Ramsay but they see the strength and kindness and value in each other that no one else can.
theon jeyne: i generally prefer nonsexual interactions, however there are ways of doing sexuality that i can like: when it is initiated by and demanded by jeyne who seeks some form of reenactment or redress or nonviolent experience or corrective with theon that she considers safe/available for this and with a theon who is reluctant at best. i like intense dangerous codependency. i don't think regular romance is available to them or rather what they have is already past that.
Asides from those, not so many changes. I think the bigger and better outcome was just learning to be less judgemental and more open. I am honestly happy of having done the survey even if sometimes I wanted to stick my head in the oven.
#I don't know how to tag this#speaking#I don't know if I should tag the ships or if this would be considered as anti-ship#anyway overall more positive feelings about those two which is good.#asoiaf#theon greyjoy#Theon x Robb#theon x Jeyne
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THEON LOVE THEON!!!! i love him i hate him i kin him i squeeze him he my babby he my boy
SEXUALITY he’s bisexual this is canon to me. like i seperate canon and my fanon but my reading of him includes bisexuality...
OTP robb 👨❤️👨 the throbb slay... i love the tragedy the doom the regret the heartbreak the divorce the betrayal oh its all so juicy... i love robb and throbb through the lens of theon though like it all gravitates around theon
BROTP theon and jeyne!! trauma besties. i like theon and sansa in the show :) also theon and barbrey absolute worsties
NOTP i hate thramsay. it is an event in theon’s life that interesting and as as character and plot element it is heartbreaking etcetc but i cannot for the life of me imagine why people are into it as a ship. also theon x sansa sorry she’s a lesbian :/
HEADCANON well he is bisexual thats the first and most important headcanon To me. otherwise lord where do i begin.. just search theon on my blog there is so much word salad ive posted about him
FAV QUOTE the certain undeniable spice of fucking a tavern wench in lord stark’s bed. /j OFC its “i should have been with him, where was i? i should have died with him”. or the catharsis of “my name is theon” oh baby boy...
RELATABILITY being a failson 🤪 being kind of a girlboy too
SECOND HAND EMBARRASSMENT most of pre-reek theon LMAO baby stop being cringe!!! stop saying cringe shit stop doing cringe shit!! being 19 isnt an excuse!!
CINNAMON ROLL/PROBLEMATIC FAV he’s both! he’s my problematic fav that i treat like a cinnamon roll 🫶
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💖 ✨for Robb
💖 - Romantic relationships or ships.
My most controversial opinions as far as Robb shipping goes, I think, are regarding throbb. I've talked about them/it here before multiple times but long story short, I see this ship - while interesting and compelling, etc - as kind of toxic and unhealthy. but for Theon. I can also see it as kind of unrequited or unrealized, where I can definitely see Robb having a much lower level of investment emotionally then Theon. In fanon, it's often the opposite.
I'm not really into Robb het ships, except with Jeyne W, which I talked about in my previous response to the ask about Jeyne.
✨ - Worldbuilding or background story elements.
Hmm I'm afraid I don't have much int he way of worldbuilding thoughts on the North or Winterfell or whatever. So like, also this might be even kind of canon (??) but I see Robb as not very religious. If he does have to choose, he takes to the Old Gods more than to the Seven (even though, in my headcanon at least, he did marry Jeyne in a sept) but he's not very invested in religion. It's more of a ritual he sees as his duty to perform as part of being a lord/king.
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you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)
look ok i Understand throbb. i understand the interest i get where it comes from i get its narrative role im not wholly averse to it its definitely . /a/ factor in theon’s character in canon to me. but like so is his dead horse. it's fine ITS FINE!!! i just never managed to access whatever enduring interest it holds for people it doesn't really compel me it is simply not very central to my theon-liking and the way a lot of throbb-centric stuff does theon characterization does not appeal to me.
alternative answer to this question jon snow doesnt listen to mcr he listens to patsy cline he listens to johnny cash
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so according to the official asoiaf cookbook (which a. exists and b. i own a copy) the ironborn don’t use spices because “they do not sow” so i am imagining when theon first came to winterfell he was just… blown away by actual flavor.
so that leads me into a little fun throbb headcanon: theon fell in love with cooking when he came to winterfell. he loves making his own food, especially with stuff he has hunted himself, and he really loves making food for robb. he’s not a very good cook but robb loves his cooking anyways
#asoiaf#theon greyjoy x robb stark#throbb#theon greyjoy#robb stark#game of thrones#headcanon#throbbfortnight
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I don't like to continue on someone else's post so just two things:
1) Victarion does at a certain point believe Hotho to be the heir to Harlaw - obviously its Victarion so there are plenty of explanations as to why he would be mistaken lol but thats why I entertained the idea of a succession uncertainity at all
2) There are NO characters known to be salt sons in asoiaf just bastards (and we know from TWOIAF that salt sons don't have bastard names I think) so a huge amount of freedom is allowed to the reader to make their own headcanons about exactly how that system works and how bad/remarkable it is for one to actually inherit. Last Serving Daughter Is a great example of making one's own headcanons! I love it
All the rest I agree fully and don't expect this to be the Canon supported option and I hadnt even gone to check where house Serrett Is so thanks for that, just wanted to point out why I made the remarks I did. I just like to always consider interpretations that are not the first that comes to mind.
Heyo! Not to be weird but I've actually read a good bit of your asoiaf fanfic it is sooo... *chef's kiss* 🤌 (and I know you from The Discord. kudos to a fellow throbb ponderer 🫡🫡🫡 too bad I'm super shy and never post on there lol.)
Per your first point, I combed Vic's chapters but I honestly couldn't find anything specific about Vic believing Hotho to be the heir to Ten Towers. If there is, feel free to send it my way. That said, there is some general ambiguity to that particular inheritance because of Euron's move of making Harras Lord of Greyshield. My read was that because Harras will already be lord of both Grey Garden and Greyshield, it's somewhat expected that he might 'step back' from Ten Towers, and let that inheritance go to another Harlaw (namely Hotho lol).
Per your second point, it is genuinely strange that there are no characters we really know to be salt sons/daughters. To be honest, I think George just included the whole salt wife/son bit without thinking through all of the wrinkles it might cause, so salt wives/sons are pretty much ignored in feastdance. Consider Balon, as according to Aeron, Balon took his first two salt wives when he was seventeen (implying that he took more in the following years). And Balon never had any salt sons by any of these women? Seems unlikely. But obviously, George knew that adding salt sons to the Greyjoy succession crisis would only complicate things further (Asha would never have been Balon's heir, nor would Euron have ever been able to inherit after Balon's death, and story events would not be able to unfold in the way GRRM wanted).
To me, that indicates that maybeeee George shouldn't have included that bit about Balon's salt wives at all. Maybe. Just maybe. And also, Quellon let Balon do that? It seems like it would really undermine Quellon's attempted reforms to let his son go around taking thralls and salt wives. George. George are you listening to me. George. Hey.
Now, if I were famous American novelist George RR Martin (and thank god I'm not), I'd have it so that salt sons start with the last name 'Salt' (distinct from the bastard name 'Pyke'), but if their father has no other sons, then they gain the house name and are raised up as heir. And I would have written salt wives/sons into my story in a way such that they're actually relevant. But alas.
In that same vein, I'm actually a big fan of a potential Iron Islands civil war, because I love cataclysm! I love it when tenuous cultural/societal trappings splinter and create devastating calamity! The Iron Islands have a strong reputation for being fiercely independent and quarrelsome, and I am SO looking forward to the complete catastrophe TWOW will be for them. Even on a small scale, it would be super interesting if salt sons could challenge rock sons for their inheritance via duel or a mini-kingsmoot (lordsmoot?), and that was a constant point of tension. There's just so much juice there!
As a final note, I hope I didn't come across as a "well ackchyually-" annoying weirdo. I just really enjoy discussing the sparse ironborn lore we're actually given. I have approximately ten thousand of my own ironborn headcanons, some of which roughly align with established canon, some of which directly contradict it lol. That's partially why the Iron Islands are my favorite region in Westeros: we're not given nearly as much world-building about them as, say, the Starks, and the world-building we do get sometimes makes absolutely no sense. So there's so much room to craft your own headcanons/lore!
Anyway, I ❤️ other people's ironborn headcanons. I will try to restrain myself from writing another 50,000 words on the topic, but it's so much fun lol.
#ask#hell-heron#catch me spending more effort answering this ask than my actual irl work. flop behavior!#and yes i AM working on chapters 27-29. chapter 27 is done!!! (won't be posting it yet tho sowwy) and yes it hits like a brick to the face#chapters 28 and 29 are both half-written but i'm working on it. they are sooo much fun!!! well. “”“fun”“”#and it's really got me frothing at the mouth about ironborn culture/lore. like i am not a well person. anyway
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for the ask game THEON🖤💛
alr alr this is gonna be interesting:
1: sexuality headcanon: homophobic bisexual. only HE is allowed to date men. like he will absolutely call asha a slur bc he’s just a bitch but at the same time she can’t even be mad because he’s in some pretty serious denial
2: otp: throbb for sure. the TRAGEDY. the ANGST. the MODERN AU CRACK POTENTIAL. they have everything
3: brotp: theon and sansa tbh. though like he and asha are more combative because like they’re ACTUALLY siblings
4: notp: thramsay is absolutely the worst, but i’ve seen a surprising amount of theon x jon on ao3 and that just makes my head hurt
5: first headcanon that pops into my head: nb theon. like modern theon is absolutely a he/they fashion snob wearing the fuckin. miu miu miniskirt i don’t make the rules
6: favorite line from this character: i mean the obvious is “I should have been with him. Where was I? I should have died with him.”
7: one way in which I relate to this character: lil bi fashion disaster with trauma
8: thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character: kind of everything (particularly show!verse) bc he’s such a loser
9: cinnamon roll or problematic fave
#usually this is a video game blog but i rb’d this to the wrong one lol#im usually @greyjoygender for this sort of thing#asks
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do with your throbb headcanons what thou whilt but i'm in pieces over "which woman at winterfell embroidered his doublet" because theon would have known. theon would have lined her up shivering in winterfell's great hall and looked her in the eye when he told her to swear fealty to king balon. 🫠
also i think with theon's little outfits throughout agot it's clear that the starks take care to dress him as befits his station as the heir to pyke. balon was being an asshole about ned dressing theon like his trueborn daughter but this was a kindness on ned's part, to spare no expense on theon's wardrobe that he wouldn't spare on his own children's.
ofc this also causes the alienation that theon lives under for ten years!! always Marked as a greyjoy, always singled out as a hostage. it's a horrible position to be in no matter how gilded the bars of the cage might be. but it's clear that in the same way that theon was educated alongside winterfell's children, he was clothed and kept as would befit the northern standard of a great heir.
i wish there was more on-page knitwear in westeros 😪 we know knitting exists bc it's mentioned plenty of times but i imagine it was not a suitable highborn pastime (old nan for example is constantly knitting and also A Domestic) like embroidery was... do you think jon snow has a knitted scarf. do you think anyone ever made theon a scarf. what's the cowl situation like on the iron islands. do you think coldhands was wearing a shawl.
#theon greyjoy#twow 2024 we will have more little outfit moments.... red god willing and the creek don't rise
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