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dairy-farmer · 6 years ago

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binchhhhh have you season season 8 yet??? and if so thoughts?? 🤔

I diddd!!!! and I just finished it!! i tried staying up till 3 to watch it but fell asleep and woke up at 4:30, it’s like 10 am now and honestly???

*SPOILERS FOR VOLTRON SEASON 8 BELOW*

worth it. no regrets.

overall im like…satisfied? like it got a happy ending for the most part, because the main plot is accomplished the universe can finally begin to heal and voltron has served it’s purpose, which i was expecting but there’s also a part of me that is…like really really sad??

like allura’s gone because she sacrificed herself alongside honerva (which really made a sharp character turn at the end, which is slightly supported by the closer examination done to her character in the episode where they delve into her mind but i still feel could’ve been built up more) and i really wish she could’ve like lived on (but like what else are fanworks for??) especially given the fact that she and lance were really beginning a promising relationship.

-even though there could be a case built that it’s just a rebound relationship, though i think that its very unfitting for either allura or lance’s characters. i mean the same could be said for klance if it had been canon, that lance saw his chances with allura dissipate and that keith was just next in line. but the way the allurance was portrayed was actually quite soft, like the two became closer friends who shared a romatic love for one another and isn’t that how love’s supposed to be?

(believe me im just as disappointed as all of you that klance didn’t end up being canon because despite my (still present) belief that they belong together, but i…was kinda prepared to find this out? like Dreamworks being the parent company and after shiro was confirmed to be gay and who was a main character i just knew that asking for more than a single LGBT main character was pushing my luck. (ezor and zethrid were present but they hardly had any screen time and theyd been classified as villains even near up to the end)

of course while i did enjoy the season and the entirety of voltron overall i think ill just list of what i liked, what left me confused, and what kinda bothers me:

-keith, embracing and fully accepting the entirety of his galra heritage and even going so far as to use the words ‘us’ and ‘we’ in his speech to the other galra at the end ✔️ pretty good for a boy who started out angry and sad at the world with no idea who he was

-lance’s altean marks!!! all i can say is hell yeah!!! (like i dont think he’s altean because i dont think he can shapeshift or is genetically similar at all but the marks on his cheeks (i interpret them) are like a kissmark from allura, a reminder that she did truly love him and almost a symbolic way of her having passed on the torch to him. ✔️ (they’re like lance’s moon!!! ya know like how in ATLA how sokka found love and then lost it but was reassured that yue was up there, looking down on him)

-did kova die in the ritual?? is that what happened when honerva set him down in the circle??? she drained the quintessence from an immortal being❔

-that little dialogue exchange from honervas memories of lotor like how zarkon replied to lotor saying “you may be the prince but i am your emperor” and immediately afterwards when lotor said he wanted kova and haggar almost said no and he replied “you may be the high pristess but i am the prince” pretty much mirroring his father and delivering the chilling hint that despite how much lotor may have tried to reject it, small parts of zarkon did make their way into him ✔️

-SHIROS!!!FUCKING!!!ARM!!!WRESTLING!!!COMPETITION!!!✔️✔️✔️✔️ like you can tell being called old got to him, and am totally in the belief that no matter how good he may be at hiding it he’s just as short tempered and fiery as keith was ( i even think that maybe he saw a younger version of himself in keith when he first met him which may be why he was so determined to help him- especially since much of shiro’s own childhood is never adressed. can someone say orphan!shiro?)

-farmer lance ✔️✔️✔️ like keith’s dad was a predicted to be farmer/firefighter- hes confirmed firefighter but i like to think that maybe he grew tomatoes part time or smthn. and keith a city slicker he doesnt know jack about farming. excellent matierial if you ask me, yall pickin up what im puttin down?

-takashi shirogane got married and we dont even get a name??? scam ❌

-shiros kiss ✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

-uhhhn the fuckin uhhh slight homicidal tendencies that allura developed after accepting that parasite thingy . like everyone was glancing at each other, clearly aware that she wasn’t acting like herself but no one actually steps in? says enough is enough.?❌

-Merla name drop??? ya know what i can appreciate the little things ✔️

-go!lion throwback with gremlin pidge✔️✔️

-shiros goodbye. “you never have to thank me for anything”. like the sincerity, the implied level of thanks that HE feels towards alllura. binch..i shed a tear i wont lie…✔️

-lance found love✔️✔️✔️ me being a klance/shance lover or not i love my boy lance first and foremost and He.Found.Love. the one thing he’s wanted more than anything else and i for one love that he found his happy ending no matter how short lived it may have been

-lance signing like 1000 blue lions dolls just to get ONE for his boo? hero✔️

-end credit where the lions are flying towards an outline of allura made of stars✔️ while even though she’s gone, shes now part of the galaxy she fought to protect✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

-voltron ends just as it started, with lance mcclain center stage ✔️✔️

- the scene where baby!lotor is running towards honerva to hug her and then just stops. dead. in. his. tracks. purposeful or not i think it really gives credit towards his natural instincts to sense danger.✔️

-despite lotor having killed hundreds of alteans, and the additional reaffirmation that he above all was desperate to preserve life no matter the cost, that he had a sense of right and wrong that became skewed. that he lost himself. found himself, and lost himself again. makes him a character really suited for deep pensive analysis. like before we even KNEW or met lotor i was writing him as a paris hiltonish party kid who was really just looking for a good time but now i feel like when writing him from here out and maybe for others we can actually give him his due as a complex character who under a different set of circumstances couldve been someone else. someone better? maybe ✔️❌❔

*SEASON 8 SPOILERS END*

well thats all i can think of off the top of my head. is there more pros and more cons? probably but that’s really more up to everyone else’s personal interpretation.

is voltron perfect? definitly not, there’s a lot that coulve been improved upon, somethings that coulve gotten more in depth work. they had a lot of interesting pieces that if executed better, with longer episodes or possibly even more seasons, or maybe decided on a method of storytelling and stuck with it, i feel like it couldve been something great.

but i liked it.

and if if you’re with the opinion that the ending sucked and you hate everything about it well, you can always just drench yourself in fanworks like you’d drench turkey in gravy to make it a little more palatable.

because YOU my good bitch are valid as well!!!

so really theres something for everyone!!!! (also please dont kill me for my lack of fics, my chem final was yesterday (only thing i can remember from it is the thought that i should’ve chosen A. sparkling water rather than C. gold metal for question 19—buuuuut that means im free for break!!! and guess who’s gunna get flooded with all my half finished fics!!! das right allayous

#anonymous #asks #answered asks #voltron #voltron season 8 #voltron season 8 spoilers

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pens-swords-stuff · 6 years ago

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11/11/11 Tag

Tagged by @decantae whos a friend i guess. i love you thanks for tagging me, nerd.

1. What character archetypes do your OCs fit into, if any?

I feel like a lot all of my girls are fiery, outspoken and pretty polarizing? Like I don’t know why they have so many friends, more people should probably dislike them.

My guys... I really need to make more guy characters not gunna lie, but they tend to be suave.

im only capable of making two types of characters send help

2. Other than their main universe, what other universes (of your own creation or found in media) would you like to see your characters in?

Hmm... I would say Harry Potter but I’ve basically ported a lot of my characters to the Potterverse for Morsmordre... Other universes I love to bits include Dragon Age, Percy Jackson, Danganronpa...

3. What is the best plot twist you’ve ever read/seen/played?

Hmmm I literally cannot recall any off the top of my head. I for some reason don’t react a whole lot to plot twists, it’s quite perplexing. I’m fairly ambivalent to them, I can’t really recall a moment where I was genuinely shocked by any. That’s not a brag on me calling any plot twists because I usually don’t — I just... don’t react? It’s rather boring and disappointing.

I don’t know if it was the best plot twist ever but the recent realization of who/what Redeye was in Octopath Traveler was pretty chilling...

4. Have you/would you ever kill your darling characters? Why?

You know, I tried a few times. but s o m e o n e (cough @decantae cough) took their own characters hostage so I wouldn’t kill them.

I think I would if it made sense in the plot and was well-thought out since character death can really affect development of other characters. This doesn’t mean perma-death where I’ll never write for them again though... I’m a sucker for AUs and I’m too attached to my favorites to ever truly let them go.

5. What is your favourite obscure word in the English language (or whatever language(s) you write in)?

hmmm... I really like the words evoke, argle-bargle, and halcyon.

i feel like @brankiee will yell at me if i dont say effervescent, so here ya go

6. What song’s on the soundtrack for the major motion picture based on your WIP?

Current favorites include Little Do You Know by Alex and Sierra that I think could work for any of my characters so that.

I really want a lot of Queen too... Don’t Stop Me Now and Love of My Life in particular. I don’t know where or if it’ll fit ever, but I want it.

Anything by dodie. Also anything by Zella Day.

I want Can’t Help Falling in Love but specifically the cover Kina Grannis did because she does an amazing job and I was so shook when I saw it in Crazy Rich Asians.

this is very quickly just becoming into my current playlist so i’m just going to stop

7. How did you come up with the title for your WIP?

I didn’t— my more capable writing partners did.

8. What time of day do you prefer to write at?

I write a lot at nighttime! Especially after I should be going to sleep.

9. Have you ever scrapped a big plot point you had planned? If so, what was it, and why?

you can’t scrap any big plot point if you never make it there

I don’t think I have actually because I’m not a really big planner. I have a vague idea of what’s going to happen but my characters never listen to me so all of my big plot points have always been more of a headcanon that may or may not come into fruition.

10. How do you pick your character names?

I really like to pick face claims for my characters so it helps to have a face to stare at and feel out whether a name feels right for them or not. I feel like a lot of the names for my current characters just come to me naturally and it feels right.

When that doesn’t happen however, I usually ask for some opinions from my friends, or I just endlessly scroll through a list of names and cry.

11. Who on writeblr would you like to get to know better? (Tag ‘em, mayhaps.)

I have a huge writeblr crush on the following people: @madammuffins @esoteric-eclectic-eccentric @writings-of-a-narwhal @drowsy-quill

i die whenever you guys pop up in my notifications ngl

@maple-writes also tagged me, thank you!!! I’m just going to add this into this post so I don’t need to come up with 22 questions.

1- Do you like worldbuilding?

I do in theory, but I get really easily overwhelmed by the scope of what I have to do so I have difficulty progressing.

2- What is the longest project you have ever completed?

I have never actually completed anything... But Morsmordre is by far the longest thus far, I think we’ve written a total of 125k+ for it.

3- Do you have a favorite setting?

@decantae‘s For Queen and Country setting is amazing and I love everything about it.

4- Do you want your project to one day be made into a movie? (provided it would be at least a decent movie)

Yes! I would love to see my story on the big screen with my favorite actors someday.

5- If you write on the computer, what program do you use (ie, word etc…) or if you write by hand do you like loose papers or notebooks?

I share 95% of my documents so I usually use Google Docs.

6- Do you have a favorite pen?

My Sarasa Dry pen is perfect for bullet journaling and not super expensive.

7- What’s the best thing anyone has ever said about your writing?

Not to be a downer but I don’t put myself out there so I don’t get a whole lot of praise.

8- What is your favorite part of your writing?

I love the satisfaction of having a character really come into their own. I’m a really character-driven writer so even if my writing isn’t the best, or even if I scrap that particular WIP, if I get that character moment, I know that everything is going to be okay.

9- What do you do when you’re procrastinating?

Usually watching something online with Netflix, Hulu or Youtube!

10- Have you ever based a character after a person you knew?

Nope, for me to be able to write characters effectively, they have to be completely my own and not based off of anyone. Otherwise I get too influenced by the inspiration in a bad way.

11- Do you hope to be published someday?

Yes in a sort of bucket-list way. I’m primarily a hobby writer and if it gets to that point, great! But I’m not actively working towards it.

My 11 Questions:

1) What do you do when you’re stuck?

2) What inspires you?

3) What’s a writing pet peeve you have?

4) What’s your favorite trope?

5) What's your least favorite character archetype?

6) Describe your very first OC!

7) Describe a recent writing accomplishment you had.

8) Any advice for other writers you have to share?

9) What’s your favorite literary device?

10) Why did you make a writeblr?

11) Say something nice about your writing!

Tagging: @thelysstener @sophiaawrites @knightsofeclipse @rosella1356 @lunarmoment @radiowrites @writerproject @moonbow-ink @pheita @thewritertiffany @james-stark-the-writer feel free to do this or ignore!

Also tagging anyone else who saw and wants to do this!

#tag games #undine speaks #pens-swords-stuff #pens swords stuff #long post

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nctsukashii-archive-blog · 6 years ago

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Most disliked arc (chapter)? Why?

The saltiest cracker you know is me, Bepsi!10. Most disliked arc (in this case, chapter)? Why?

I bet you saw this shit comin a mile away huh?

Chapter 2.

Now, it might surprise you, but Hoshi dying isn’t even the worst part of the chapter for me. That’s more emotionally gut punching me and my hopes and dreams that joke characters can live past chapter 3. Actually, Hoshi is without a doubt the BEST part of Chapter 2 even with his death, just because of how amazingly he’s written.

Sadly, even Hoshi cannot save this chapter from showing just how RUSHED and UNPOLISHED it is. Because holy jeEZ THERE’S A LOT WRONG (albeit it’s personal opinion for the most part). So while you may know them, or may learn something new from my opinion, that’s all cool! Under the cut as Chapter 2 is dissected and torn into to learn why it is sadly, my least fav of V3.

- RUSHED.

Now, this is really easy to see, and I’m sure many others have noticed it as well, but it bears a lot of repeating because it’s a problem. Chapter 2 was rushed to high heavens, in the sense that it mainly serves to push the plot along and nothing more. Things happen too quickly in the story at that point, and while the rest of the game is better off for it, this is the ONLY chapter that REALLY does it so blatantly, and it feels very choking as a result of it.- Tenko’s attachment to Himiko needed to happen, absolutely, but I feel like more should have been done in Chapter 1 to show Tenko trying to talk to her more? Maybe, “OOO maybe himiko wants to be my friend??” and more interactions that show that Tenko isn’t just attaching herself to Himiko b/c she’s “the creepy gay” character. - Toujou becoming the fucking supermaid. This one is the most obvious, but mmm. Everyone relying on her suddenly feels super forced, as characters like Shinguuji and Hoshi and even Maki herself, all ask Toujou to do something for them. It feels out of character for them, and the fact that THAT interaction is the MOST she gets in Chapter 2 before the trial is fucking trash and I’ll explain why in a later point, but you can just TELL that they needed SOMETHING to give her ANY story relevance, and it hurts her character a LOT. - Kaito suddenly wanting to help Maki’s super fucking weird. Maybe if it showed Kaito like “sorry Shuichi maybe later, I wanna try talking to Maki” more in this Chapter to really see that he wants to help her, or even just him going more like “hey Shuichi wanna include Maki in our training? I feel like she could use it.” or ANYTHING that mentions Kaito reaching out to Maki more. Because as it is now, it feels like he’s suddenly placing an all or nothing bet and it makes him, p unlikable at that point b/c Shuichi just goes with it for seemingly no reason because “yeah I guess i gotta progress the plot”. - Those are the main points. Maki is done surprisingly well, actually, she’s really good here. Being sus like that and actually not letting you do FTE’s was cool, and i liked it a lot. Angie’s slow buildup was also pretty good as well, but I think they coulda put Tsumugi in w/ Himiko at some point so it’s not ‘suddenly everyone’s brainwashed!’ in chapter 3, as a slower buildup would do it good! Or at least, more buildup, I should say.

- CLUNKY.

This one is a bit harder to explain, and it goes in hand with the pacing issue, but lemme try. Some of the events and dialogue in Chapter 2 just feel, really clunky? Like, Shuichi’s an emotional guy and I totally understand that, but I don’t think he’d just spill his feelings to the guy that punched him for showing weakness not even 2 days ago? I dunno, maybe it’s just me. It feels like a lot of Chapter 2 was glued into the story as requirements rather than actually to tell a story. It comes in a lot of ways, as previously mentioned a lot of relationships are just ‘suddenly there’ rather than actually built up, IE Kaito and Maki, Tenko and Himiko, etc... and it makes the entire Chapter feel like it’s meshed together with ideas that Kodaka REALLY wanted to be in the game or knew would happen later on, but just couldn’t fit them in, so he shoved them in an early chapter and hoped for the best.

- TOUJOU’S ABILITY TO DO JACK DIDDLY SHIT IN TERMS OF STORY.

Somehow, they managed to make one of the stars of this chapter barely active in it. Can you fucking believe that? Like, no really, if you work off of fan translations I want you to open the translation you have, hit CONTROL+F and search for Toujou and see like, the 30 lines she has before the trial. It’s so MINIMAL, it’s so BASIC, and in those 30 sentences she’s treated like a PLOT DEVICE rather than a CHARACTER. I’m sure a bit of the reason as to why Toujou isn’t as popular as most of the other girls is just how hard the Chapter hits her in terms of not giving her any character development (even in the bonus interaction she’s just “i do this for my job” for fucc sake). Like, even if it was played for a laugh that she’s just so constantly work-focused, or the writing took it as a bit of a punchline for some dry humor (”hey toujou what’re ya doin?” “working.” and just have awkward eye contact and the ‘WOW this is awkward’ thought in Shuichi’s head after a few “...” between the both of them as it happens. easy comedy. see???) it at least would make her seem somewhat important compared to the cast. Honestly, it’s like the Tsumugi Effect but in 2 chapters instead of 6. By doing nothing in terms of plot, she basically puts on this huge fucking sign that says “HEY GUYS IM NOT STORY RELEVANT BECAUSE NOTHING IS HAPPENING TO ME SO I WILL PROBABLY DIE AS A KILLER OR VICTIM” Her trial behavior is really hit or miss as well, because some might find her ruthlessness to be really cool and makes her actually fucking interesting at any point in the story, while others might find it unlikable, excessively cruel, or just out of character for Toujou no matter how desperate she may be. Let alone that her US demographic prolly tanked quite a lot w/ her story focusing on POLITICS of all things (one of the three no-no’s in any conversation), making her very very hard to like, besides on an aesthetic level. Let alone her FTE’s are the worst in the game, as you still barely learn anything about her outside of “im a maid and im good at my job” or other points that the main story already tells you (besides that she once coddled a man so hard he became dependent and that her only weakness is not cutting konjac right ever). It just makes her feel like a barren and incomplete character.

- TOUJOU’S ABILITY TO DO EVERYTHING SO WELL SHE CAN EVEN FUCK HERSELF OVER AMAZINGLY.

Everyone has heard me go on and on about this, but if it doesn’t get said no one will know it so I keep repeating it until the end of time.By making her plan so complex, she basically fucks herself. By making a crime that only someone as competent as her could accomplish, it fucks her because only she can do it. XD. Literally, who do you think would have been able to do all that shit in one night? Saihara’s too weak to drown Hoshi. Don’t fight me on this, because if you seriously believe the detective in training with little self defense training (he worked on infidelity and missing pet/kid cases for fuck sake, his life isn’t really on the line all that often so he prolly wouldn’t know or have to train all that much to protect himself) can take the tennis player that killed over 200 people and has been playing tennis basically all his life (enough to go INTERNATIONAL in MIDDLE SCHOOL) in a fight, we’re gunna need to have a talk.Gonta’s too heavy to use the ropeway.Kiibo’s too heavy to use the ropeway and too weak to carry Hoshi’s body.Himiko’s too weak to drown someone and attempt to shove them in the staircase (which I will touch on real soon here on why even attempting to frame her the way Toujou tried to was dumb as shit).Angie’s... lbr here, prolly missing a few too many tools in her toolbox to really think of a ropeway to kill Hoshi with.Shinguuji’s too weak (and before I get arguments on this, if u think this underweight twig of a man can take out Hoshi when Hoshi’s prolly faster than him and could just run ur wrong)Maki who was the Child Caregiver at the time would be seen as too weak to do anything to Hoshi too (even if she lifts kids, again, Hoshi is fucking rIPPED and has killer legs)Ouma’s too weak (i mean he’s underweight and looks like a twig)Kaito’s a fucking moron when it comes to master plans and wouldn’t have been able to plain something like a ropeway murder (let alone his idol complex wouldn’t have let him kill Hoshi most likely... unless it was a Mondo situation but that’s a later talk)Tenko’s also a fucking moron when it comes to long term planning let alone she wouldn’t touch a man unless to flip him to death, which makes the ropeway seem almost pointlessTsumugi’s too weak to (i mean... rlly. u rlly think she could take him down? under the assumption she isn’t the mastermind ofc at this point in the story, but even then sneak murdering all the kills seems kinda.... eh? too hard for her to do.) Miu’s also a fucking moron that wouldn’t think of using a ropeway (actually, she prolly woulda done the smarter option and just pushed Hoshi’s body out his fucking window since a ropeway would be too much effort)By process of COMMON SENSE, only Toujou would make something so NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED in an attempt to murder a guy.

- THE DUMBEST PLAN ON EARTH AND HOW YOU COULD PLAN A SIMILAR MURDER AND GET AWAY WITH IT EASY.

Toujou’s plan is fucking dumb when you can think of SO many other ways to get Hoshi killed with more leeway as to who coulda done it. So I bring up the window in his lab, because literally you could just push him out of it and the fall would prolly splatter that midget cunt on the ground no problem. Hell, even handcuff him. Nearly anyone could have pushed Hoshi out of the window, meaning there’s a possibility that Maki or Kaito could have done it w/o that stupid fucking ropeway let alone anyone at night (or hell even during the DAY since time of death was obscured), and it wouldn’t LEAVE THE FUCKING GLOVE.MMMM OKAY RANT HERE REAL QUICK I MEAN IT THAT FUCKING TRASH BAG GLOVE IRRITATES ME. Like, hhh I know Kodaka wanted to make a case where something like the glove gets the killer caught, but HOLY SHIT was it poor to use in a case like this. It not only feels like it’s out of place for her not to just get it in the morning, but why the fuck would she use her gloves anyways?? Why not use Hoshi’s hat? Anyone could use Hoshi’s hat as hand protection down the moronic ropeway and since it’s a beanie it’s prolly made of more strong material than I guess whatever her shit gloves are made of, since they tore like fuckin trash when she went down the ropeway. As someone that wears cut and heat protection gloves because of my job, the gloves she uses are HORRIBLY inefficient (let alone if she’s cleaning before touching food w/ them on... like please don’t that can cause so many health problems) to try and stop ropeburn. She could have also just poisoned everyone, or killed them all in their sleep, to make her job easier on herself. Can’t have a trial if no one’s there after all right? No one would suspect Toujou working on her fuckin job to come and snap their necks during the night or w/e, or poison their food before the show. But also framing Himiko is really fucking dumb. Like, she expects me to believe that Himiko, who is only 2 more pounds than Hoshi mind you, managed to drown him and stuff him in that staircase, and pull him out during the show in under a minute. LOL no. Hoshi looks like he can break her arms like fucking toothpicks without even trying?? Let alone her laziness makes it look REALLY hard for her to have planned a fucking murder. The fact that like, the first hour of the trial wants me to believe Himiko could be the killer is asinine, just because of how basically fucking illogical it is.What Toujou could have done instead, was leave his body drowned in the sink. Yeah, it’d be harder because not everyone can drown Hoshi (ie. Himiko and Ouma and prolly a few others that are considered sticks or weak), but there are a lot of people who could, and drowning someone is a lot easier than the stupid ropeway piranha bullshit. OR PUSH HIM OUT HIS WINDOW. JUST KILL EVERYONE THAT WAY COME ON.Actually, she coulda killed two people easy. Just have someone gullible like Saihara come to meet her at night in the lab after she’s already pushed Hoshi out the window (or even just come running to his room with a bullshit excuse that she saw a shadow ‘running away’ and saw that something happened in the tennis lab) and push him out the window too. Boom, makes it look like a murder gone wrong, and the only alibi that’d be able to testify about the events is hers. Easy win, everyone else gets executed.I get it, in the end, it needs to be a solvable mystery in a mystery game, but it ends up making Toujou look like a complete moron as a result of it, which is unfortunate.

- MOTIVE VIDEOS ARE RIGGED AS SHIT.

Upon learning what hers and Hoshi’s are, it seems almost rigged that they would have to be the killer and victim respectively. Hoshi’s telling him to ‘kys’ and Toujou’s saying ‘lol go kill someone’ makes it like... even if everyone else saw theirs that they’d be like.. the only two to really act on theirs besides MAYBE Miu or POSSIBLY Angie. And then we also see Ouma’s?? And his is just actively “lol u don’t kill bitch but u should do it anyways” making it seem almost counter productive. Like, bitch it just said Ouma made a rule that no killing was a thing and u genuinely expect his ass to break that? ha. The odds were stacked against the two of them, which makes it only seem more forced in the long run. Which is great from a meta standpoint, but a story can be meta while still being fun, enjoyable, and flowing functionally and logically. Which this chapter isn’t really.

- THE SADLY NOT REDEEMING BUT STILL SUPER GOOD HOSHI FACTOR.

Now, the one thing that I can praise this chapter for really well despite all its shortcomings is Hoshi’s characterization and his story. For one chapter he really makes a hard hit at the time, and it’s easy to become engrossed in his little background story about him wanting to find a reason to live. The real cherry on top is his writing and his interactions with the few people he interacts with. with Kaito, it really shows the disposition that Kaito has against him and just how Hoshi is so understanding of others and like... nice. Even when he wants a goal that goes against everyone, he still respects them. “I won’t do something reckless to endanger everyone.”, and acknowledging that it’s an entirely selfish reason why he wants to find the videos and will still not hurt anyone to do it. He may have threatened to show Maki’s video to everyone in exchange for his own from her, but he never hits her or directly harms / threatens her w/ violence or anything extremely dirty. It’s respectable. Ohhh, and Saihara’s dynamic with him is just so sPOT ON HERE. Between the great advice and compliments in general he has for Saihara such as “the world can be bright for someone that’s looked down for so long, be careful” and “you’re confident compared to before, like a weight is lifted off your back. it’s a good look for you” and other such flattery, to Hoshi being a bit more open to Saihara about his feelings (feeling jealous about everyone else having a reason to live, wanting to find one himself, openly admitting he feels he has no purpose in his life and wants to find a reason to be happy like everyone else, etc.). But this dynamic goes both ways, as Saihara also can read Hoshi super fucking well. Like, seeing the Tennis Lab is a great example of it. When Hoshi states the past is behind him, Saihara thinks to himself ‘but then why are you looking at the court with such sad eyes Hoshi-kun?’ and it’s like, just really nice that Saihara’s not dense? Like, Hoshi expresses himself pretty poetically, with the way he talks and whatnot, acting like a wise sage type w/ endless wisdom all the time, so Saihara being able to read past all the flowery language to just hear “god i miss tennis” or “im depressed” is really REALLY refreshing, and a nice balance to see. If you do Hoshi’s FTE’s it personally makes it even better, but that’s not a requirement so moving on. Even just Saihara asking him things like “are you doing well?” or “Is this what you want?” or “or just the small but surprisingly deep talks they just seem to have with one another are tiny details that really complete the dynamic that they can both read each other and can react to one another super well. It feels balanced between the both of them, even in Chapter 1, and it’s a shame Hoshi had to die because I would have LOVED to see how far it could go and how much it could have been expanded on in the later chapters.

Sadly however, no matter how great Hoshi is, it can’t save Chappie 2 from it’s endless faults and gripes that I have with it, that ultimately make the story less entertaining as a result.

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askguyslikeus · 7 years ago

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oh shit yall send lots of questions hoo nelly answering almost all of them under the cut ,,, im gunan try and answer more technical ones first then fun ones and ones about the mod later so u dont gotta scroll all the way to the bottom for the good deets

Hi! I'm still kinda new to the blog and I was wondering what are the 'do and do-not' kind question I should do? Because im sure theres always that one ask thats just Innapropiated, like that one of Michael 'taking advantage og high Jeremy' that was just not cool. i got this ask a lot so ill be clear with yall. im just not a big angst fan? so sending michael asks about his anxiety nonstop and about how he had a panic attack in the bathroom over and over again wasnt that fun. usually if it pertains the musical though you should be find sending an ask about it? but sometimes i get asks that are like “jeremy ur nothing and how does it feel knowing u fucked everything up” like homie how i think its feels? how u think hes gunna react to that? i made this blog to negate a lot of negativity in my own life so i can promise u im going to be answering asks mostly positive always forever. that being said tho i sometimes get asks pertaining to a few things that ive dealt with in the past and these topics make me very very uncomfortable. dont send asks about these topics please. this is the no no list

-self harm, cancer, suicide, rape, parent death, car accidents, sudden death.

What was your inspiration for this blog? hoo boy well,,, ultimately i thought of them rooming together and got emotional and made a huge list of headcanons and was like ,,, why not run an askblog for a bit ill just abandon it after three asks lets have some fun. but somehow im still here and i got sucked in by the complexity of michael and jeremy. i know that sounds kinda silly but just, as someone who is dealing with a lot of similar things, like dependency issues and abandonment issues and depression and anxiety, having these fun functioning character to explore was such a gift for me. i believe honestly thats why im still here and doing this. being able to try and portray a healthy relationship and a healthy way of coping and growing has helped me a lot this past month and given me an outlet i didnt have before. TBH THO the main reason i made this blog if imma be real with u guys id because i didnt like the treatment of a lot of these issues in the fandom. it made me very upset to see depression used as an plot device and michaels dependency issues treated as romantic so i wanted to make a blog that had little to no angst. ANYWAYS somehow im still here ,,, gvrkjvrnkjfd sorry i rambled

honestly I just wanna say first that I love his blog and your art and you're so cool and kind!! a question would be (I'm not sure if you've answered this before or not) but is there like an on going story here, or is it mostly just answering questions with the characters set in this universe? (if that makes sense I'm sorry!) thank you, you're super awesome! ❤️ djrnjg first off thank u so much aaaa,, ive kind of answered this before but its ok its been a while since then! but um i do kinda have a story but how howdy i sure am dragging my feet. the story isn a hUGE OVERARCHING EPIC OF WOE AND THIS PERSON IS UPSET AND THIS PERSON IS MAD AT THIS PERSON its just michael and jeremy getting together. i have a plan and ive talked to a few people on how i want it to happen but ive gained like ,,,, 6,000 followers since then and im kinda nervous BUT ILL DO MY BEST but also please understand that i do this for fun for myself and if i dont get to it im so so so sorry woops

i know this has been said before but i'm really really happy w how you're handling so many aspects of their characters. i.e. michael being trans, michael and jeremy's anxiety, michael's dependency issues, and other stuff i'm too tired to think of. you made the characters have even more depth than they did in the play and i'm rly grateful for the way you're dealing w my favorite boys. (also your richjake is suuuper adorable) ahhhhhh thank u so much? i talked a bit about this on my main but im really glad people are happy with my decision on this blog because im suPER SUPER NERvous anytime i post an ask dealing with these things. (ask hachi or nate i always message them like freaking out and send them my scripts and asks and wait for them to tell me its ok before i post it omg) also like i talked about before i love,,, having these fun stoner gamer boys to explore these issues with. im honestly shocked by how many people also deal with dependency issues because when i first listened to the musical i was so overwhlemed by the song michael int he bathroom because i had never heard someone basically write “dependency issue: the song” and it felt so so so good to realize i wasnt alone in this pit of despair i fall into so easily aha. but im!! glad everyone is ok with this wild ride im on right now (also thank u so much i struggle writing rich and jake but i get so emotional cause they would TOTES call each other babe)

how come you just use sketch form for most of your drawing (sketches and uses sketch for the final result)? im ,,, not really sure what this is asking but i thnk its along the lines of why do i only sketch my answers?? and i do that because dude do u see how often i post and how lONG some of them are. i made this blog for fun and i love doing comics but i hate lineart and coloring and if i tried to churn out finished pics for every post id defs have given up a few asks in,, shrugs

I want to say I love your little comics they're so funny! How long does it take you to make a comic? Are any of them based on your experiences? Ok have a nice day! thank you! i love my little comics too! it usually takes me anywhere from an hour to five hours if im dragging my ass or talking on discord while im drawing. it can be kinda exhausting but since i took my break ive also been like, starting long comics one day and finishing them another day which, before i would do it all in one sitting then post it hahha. AS FOR EXPERIENCE the first half of the lifeguard comic was based on real life! we were stuck stoned up there for like an hour or two? but we didnt have anyone to help us but we got down eventually!! the wendys comic is also something i did because man!! i need to compliment food workers if they do a good job!! ummmmm just like jenna i also have a friend that said HAHA BYE and moved to cali and she is also lIVING IT UP and doing really well for herself and shes very independent and shes very inspiring to me! hmm i think thats it besides i used to have movie nights with my dad all the time too except we would watch my fave animated movies and sometimes lord of the rings cause my dad loved that

What kinds of things can we NOT ask ? What kinds of things do you WANT us to ask ? i covered the what not to ask in the first question so!!! um if my askbox is open and u want to respond to previous asks ive answered for the boys that would be so so so rad. sometimes im done with a certain ask and i have nothing to add but sometimes ive got more to say but am looking for an opportunity! that being said it made me really happy that i got a lot of asks about pj? shes not going to the main focus of any more asks but!!! i was nervous to introduce her and im glad u guys like her shes fun to write. but overall just general asks i can make a big ol fun story out of so!! dont worry too much about what to ask, if its something ud ask a real person and not like “lol what if ur dad died” ur gunna be fine probably

Hi! Not a question but your blog is so sweet and refreshing! I actually really appreciate that you refuse angst, that stuff tends to rub me the wrong way in fandoms... Keep taking good care of these boys ! gggg thank u!!! it means a lot to me that a lot of people are backing me up on this! i mean if u are an angst fan there are a lot of askblogs that explore that!! so its not in short supply bmc askblog fandoms got something for everyone

Which drawing program do you use?? i use paint tool sai and my tablet is a cintiq !!

this isn't really related to the faq but that bakunawa boy reference was great I LOVE THAT FIC MAN!!! the line was originally a little diff in that ask but i changed it cause ,,,, i could,,,,

an art style question. how do you keep the design of characters consistent from frame to frame? my characters they look a lil different every time I draw em (or a lot different) and it tends to disrupt the flow of my comics/animations ohh boy hoo wee props for doing animations im too scared to give that a whirl but!! it helps that i draw all the panels for an ask on one canvas! so if my next panel is going to be the same character in the same spot just in a diff pose i keep the lower layer on just at low opacity so i can use it as a ref! that helps me a lot!

Sorry if I'm nosy or rude, but are you reflecting Micheal Anxiety, Panic attacks and depence? iii think this is asking if i reflect my own issues onto them boys? and if so then yes i do. i dont place any of my own personality or anything on the boys but i do use them as a way to help me learn how to cope with my own shit and i try to deal with their issues in the healthiest way possible while also keeping in mind they are flawed individuals aaa

what are your pronouns??? and maybe your main blog?? im a cis girl so she/her is good! and my main is squigglegigs! also that being said IF YOU SEE THE USERNAME SQUIGGLEGIGS ANYWHERE JUST?? ASSUME ITS ME?? i have a twitter and an instagram and my tumblr account

((Hello mod will Michael and Jeremy eventually someday get together. I love them.)) if all goes according to plan yes! if i get overwhelmed and stop having fun on this blog then no! sorry thems the breaks but! i do want them to get together so HOPEFULLY

going off on that confrience on pornogrefy for birds, Im geussing jeremy has played Hatoful Boyfriend. am I wrong? well it wasnt intended as that ref and i dont know anything about hatoful boyfriend but i can see jerm finding it and playing it so, sure homie! the pornography for birds thing is a my brother my brother and me reference! i love that show and them boys so give it a scope!

I'm crying bcuz Michael said he's in love with Jeremy and it's beautiful yeah that boy is DEEP IN love with his bro bro

Any advice for running an ask blog?? (Ps i love this blog keep it up) personally whats worked for me so far is doing just sketches for art. honestly ive been able to work so much more and post so much more often while also trying to work on my expressions and poses! also taking my own experiences and shaping them to fit the characters has been SO MUCH FUN. th most important thing tho is,,, dont overwork urself dude. if ur having a fun time it shows. if ur just forcing urself to churn out material and its not fun? like shit we doing this for free dont push urself? idk idk overall being looser with my art and writing the dialogue before hand has been the most helpful for me for this askblog! ive run a bunch before including @ask-maz and ive run that sporadically for ,, three or four years? its so funny cause u can see my art style juMP AROUND SO MUCH but i love that blog and i only update it like every other month or so but?? i still like doing it and no on likes those posts but it makes me smile so ANYWAYS

~ok from here on its mostly just me replying to nice messages or people asking me personal questions that dont pertain to askguyslikeus so!!~

I just wanted to say I really really love your blog and just your art in general!! Keep up the good work and hope you're having fun! thank u!!! i am having fun and im glad u enjoy it!!

What other musicals do you like? :0 i really like heathers A LOT. i also like doctor horrible i know thats not technically a musical but i just relistened to it and im emotional. i like dear evan hansen but it makes me really sad so i can only take it in moderation! ummm rent? chicago?? music man? now im just naming musicals i was in rip. being in a musical fandom is a new thing to me? i was really into heathers last year but didnt really interract with the fandom at SO THIS IS SUPER NEW?? ive never been into a musical as much as im into bmc and heathers tho

tell us a little bit about urself!! u seem v cool i am squigs or fork!! im 24 and work fulltime as a barista at starbucks! i get high on the beach with my friend gwen a lot and drink wayy to many slushies, my tv shows are brooklyn nine nine and bobs burgers right now! i table at conventions sometimes and sell my art as merch and whatnot and i cosplay as a hobby as well. im pretty boring but i draw a lot and always carry my big sketchbook with me and im pretty sure its given me back issues BUT OH WELL HAHA also i am very not cool THE TRUTH COMES OUT

Who do you most relate to from bmc and why? like ,,, a mix of michael and christine with a sprinkle of jeremy i guess ahaha i relate to michaels dependency issues and overarching positive attitude and love of music, i relate to christines bright disposition and the need to not stick to one set thing? like she loves theater cause she can be sO MANY PEOPLE and like same homie thats why i cosplay. and jeremys need to be likes while also ability to put himself out there is very relatable. i also identify strongly with his dad issues idk idk whats good

Also -- just thank you for how you handled all the panic attack and anxiety attack asks. I used to deal with anxiety attacks multiple times a day and it just was really nice that it was positive and not them having one. Thank you, sincerely. ahhhhhh ur so welcome i,,, have anxiety and it sucks and i deal with panic attacks like everyday at work so i dont really wanna come home and draw someone having one i guess? im glad its helping other people too tho!

Dude- I love your art? Actually so much? It's... I love it. The whole sketch-ish way your art style is, and the way you color, and the expressions! I'm so glad I found your work - you've given me so much inspiration. Keep doin what you're doin and I hope you have a good day! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ANytime any one compliments my expressions i die cause i legit made this blog to help with that as well ,,, like dam

im lvoe ur art style b o i :0 !!!!!!

Mod, I love you so much I love you you have my soul and my love and my eternal gratitude thank you and I love you (This is the guy who was excited about PJ on your ig live stream a while ago and I love you) !!!!!!!!! im so happy u like my content omg and that u like pj im so glad!! shes a good bean

I just wanna say... I'm crying over that post about Michael and his anxiety? cuz I know how it can feel that you're only your flaws and weaknesses, but Michael just tells that to screw off in the most wonderful way and I'm?? thank you so much for that post, I bookmarked it for future times when I can't look past my depression... honestly, that post made my day (along with every other post on this blog), thank you for being such a lovely part of this fandom ,,,, im,,,, im scared of a lot of this fandom tbh but if i can be something good that come out of it and my love of these boys and desire to show them functioning together in a healthy way can help other people its so much more than i ever thought id ever be able to do. i am blown away everyday by the support ive been given on this blog and i might be crying right now because i never thought id be able to touch other people like this and i just. im really glad yall are here with me for all this.

(To the mod: You are a beautiful person that I highly respect. I love this blog and what you set out to do. thanks for giving something that makes me smile and gives me something to look forward to everyday, keep up the good work! ❤ ) hey im still crying from the previous ask aaaaa im honestly so emotional

what are ur true feelings for wendy's??? i fucking love wendys man thats some top tier fast food right there

what fast food restaurant do you think has the best nuggets WENDYS HANDS DOWN

do you have a favorite movie? paranorman makes me very nostalgic and ive seen it like eighty times and used to watch it with my dad a lot and i love it

I would just like you to know that your Wendy's comic prompted me to pull the same thing with a bakery in the town I'm visiting and the baker got so excited and happy, so thank you for making that comic because I made that woman's day. GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD GOOD I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE COMPLIMENT ME WHEN IM WORKING DUDE LIKE IM SO GLAD IT MADE U DO THIS!!! IM SMILING REALLY BIG!!

chocolate milk or strawberry milk? or plain? woops i hate milk im so sorry

do u love michael mell with all of ur heart, mod? i really truly do man what a fucking good ass character

hi squigs i love you! i love your content too and i hope u have a good day pal :> WHAT A SWEET BEAN!!! THANK YOU?? OMG

I'm just saying that recent ask you did with Michael really hit me hard because I really related to it and I started crying because it made me realize that I've been pining my self worth on everything my anxiety causes and I'm so much more than that. Thank you, so much for that I really needed it because I'm in a really bad place right now. <3 -for the mod i legit cry everytime i get asks or dms like this cause once again the idea that im helping other people is so ovwehelming i love you??? i let myself just be”depressed” for ahwile and by that i mean i just,, let my sadness consume me and i was scared of getting better cause the sadness was all i knew for so long and just. its so easy to think u are ur illness but you are so much more. soooo much more man.

I relate A Lot to Michael so the way you portray him in the blog is really good, and I think it's really awesome you refuse to like?? do terrible stuff and answer bad questions just bc people wanna see that. You run this blog really well 👌 AHHHH THis is the biggest compliment thank u so much ,,, i get real anxious bout this blog soemtiems but then yall send me sweet things like this and its worth it man

Hey mod, just know you're a really cool person. Thanks for running this blog in the first place. Keep doing the great work. thank you!!!! for ur support!!!!

not really a question!! i just wanted to say your posts on this blog always brighten my day and you're really an incredible artist and person, keep rockin on my dude!! *clutching my heart* the fuck this is so sweet

1 .I just wanted to say your blog is really awesome! It's very lovely. I also like how you made michael trans and like handled it? (just with how all the characters treat him and stuff its v nice). Your art is super duper! Thanks for running this awesome blog! 2. Hey! This isn't a question but I wanted to say that I appreciate michael being trans!! As a trans boy it's just rly awesome to see something like that casually thrown into an ask blog without making it a huge weird deal :D immm,,, i kinda really love the idea of michael being trans cause a lot of my trans male friends are actually pretty confident in their skin and michael is a very confident character? and u rarely see that with trans representation and its so refreshing to see it portrayed well. im trying to do that here but again if! i do anything wrong let me know!

how did you first get into art? (also i really love your blog, it's amazing!) ive been drawing as long as i remember! ive got mad adhd and wasnt diagnosed until late in ym life so i would just draw nonstop in my classes ahaha i used to read the sunday comics a lot and they really inspired me to try and make comics of my own too!! (and omg thank u)

someone also asked me if i went to church or was religious but tumblr ate the ask but i used to go to church a lot as a kid but im currently not religious at all aaa

ok holy shit that was a lot but thanks again to everyone i legit cry a lot about how supportive u all are thank u so much aaaa

#modpost #holy fuck that was so much

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lockewoodandco · 7 years ago

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Crossover is Bad

This is not a gr8 review, i’m just throwing my thoughts down after first watch (cause hell no im not watching it again and i have no patience to even torrent it for a review i don’t have my full faith in cause im not actually a reviewer). I’m also not jewish so this won’t go into depth about how they handled that cause i don’t actually know anything more than the history aspect.

I should also mention that even though I riff on the writers a lot, I doubt it’s all their fault. Although this whole thing can basically be summed up by I Complain But Also Give Everyone The Benefit Of The Doubt so you know, make your own opinion. I don’t know everything and if you do, you’re lucky. Impart to us your wisdom, maybe.

also shout out to the first time I have an opinion on tumblr.

if its not apparent already, spoilers.

Crossover is Worse Than You Think

First order of business, let’s get through the problems with the mechanics of the show before we go into the fact that the whole premise is Bad.

The way everyone just... appeared? Bad. you have all these writers and none of them can think of a way to explain absences and appearances? If you’re working with so many characters, that should be your first order of business. Assign certain people to keep track of certain character if you have to. Why aren’t certain characters at the wedding scene? (*cough* RAY) Why was Mick at the wedding when anyone in their right mind would expect it to cause more problems than it did? Why didn’t Mick bring Ray or Amaya? Despite his grumbling, I would think it would have made sense if Ray was asked to be Mick’s +1, as Ray would be the perfect buffer, and given their history as acknowledged on screen, it would show how far their friendship has come especially after Ray disappeared during their trust fall. Also, why weren’t all the legends invited? Why wasn’t all of team arrow invited? Why wasn’t all of team flash invited? Dibny? gone. did they even invite him? are you telling me he didn’t clock in at all when there were very obvious Nazi’s literally swarming? what is his excuse?

the problem is, these characters have no excuses for being absent. No one mentions why Dibny is awol, no one mentions “oh, [character] couldn’t make it” or “[character] is [possibly comics throwback]”. When some characters just magically appear halfway through like “oh, we were just waiting for you to call even though we gave no reason for us not to know about the nazis especially since we already seem completely briefed.” no mention of a previous anachronism or baddie they were busy doing while most people were at the wedding. Nothing like “we just got back fighting [baddie/in year] and now we gotta punch some nazi’s.” where was everyone? apparently just waiting offscreen for their turn to kick ass.

another missing character that definitely should have been invited; Hartley Rathaway. there's not a single mention of him. he’s good now!!! where is he!!!! I want a scene where cisco sneaks away and calls him up like, “i know you and barry are awkward considering everything but he invited you so i think you should be here!!!” have Andy call in his roll, maybe have someone shoot a sound thing off screen and think it’s canary when it definitely isn’t! This man still exists in canon as a friend of team flash, at least mention why he couldnt make it!!!!!

I’m not that great! I don’t know shit! I’m an amateur writer barely making it through writing his first book! But I do know that instead of humanizing Nazi’s with love, you could have spent a little more time fleshing out the world your main characters are in. i mean seriously. bringing in just a mention of hartley rathaway? Bam. a question everyone’s been asking is answered AND your universe feels more real by the fact that this character is now probably doing something completely independent of any storyline. there are ways to use these characters even when their actors are not available. you own the rights to use these characters!!! the actors dont own them!!! they arent automatically off the table, especially cause a lot of them have masks on, put them in a background shot my dude! like i said before, you don’t even have to have any part of them or their costume on screen to show they still exist! this! is! not! news! this is working with what you got, and you got a lot more than you think you do! if you actually don’t have the power to do that, then you must have the worst contract negotiator known to mankind.

that was longer than i anticipated me going on for, but next problem: Leo

once again, appeared out of nowhere, this time in a fully populated area where he should have come barging in, obvious signs of cold chaos behind him, probably moving quite similar to his counterpart. maybe give barry more of a shock, instead of just a look of, “oh, he’s nice this time, thats kinda unexpected.” why? cause it’s not unexpected. not for Barry at least.

you know what i dont buy? aloof Leonard Snart. Sure, it makes a good act, but is it one that Leo would hold up next to Mick? especially when he seems to drop it for his boyfriend. Do you really think that Leo would not notice the way Mick refers to him, and not try to give him some form of comfort besides a passing sentence that feels like the equivilant of “get over it.” they both lost each other, leo may not be as close to his mick as mick was to len, but we already know that Leonard Snart is far from emotionally stunted, his last iteration was full of emotion and you can tell that this Leo is the same, if not even more, so where even a single second of understanding before the scene cuts. It feels like you did this to address a fan concern, without seeing it as your concern. guess what? it is your concern! why? cause its a loose thread, and it was pointed out for a reason. The script is getting on the level of a daytime soap my dude. whatever internal problem is causing this lack of quality, it needs to be addressed. And don’t let me hear about it cause I don’t want to know! I just want to see it improved!

A bit of good that came from that scene, Mick struggling to figure out how he should verbally react to the way he died on Earth X.

Also, giving Len a boyfriend, pretty good. i have nitpicks but they arent important to this.

Alex

Sex is not character development! If you gotta have it, it should have been after the heart to heart with Sara! I do get it to a certain extent though, but the way it’s handled leaves a lot more to be desired. you get this pickup to a good minor plot that just can’t be completed. I can’t even see how this helped Sara grow as a character in any way, even though it was probably supposed to be about seeing damien darhk again and dealing with him, but you don’t hear that! Just a little line about Laurel. Minor complaint, they missed out on mentioning Sara also has the whole, my sister has an evil doppelganger thing, Although I don’t think she knows so I’m mourning the loss of the impossible on this one. Circumstantial humour there.

The Ray

have we seen him before? on any dctv show? I dont know! i have no clue! He looks familiar but I even googled it and nothing! (doesn’t help that he shares a name with Ray Palmer) He’s supposed to be from Earth 1, right? Where is he! please tell me, I wanna know. He looks familiar but I could just be giving you the benefit of the doubt! you can’t just be like “oh he’s also from earth 1″ and just leave it there. How? And then he doesn’t stay and I doubt that the rest of the team really cares but I care! i care a lot!

also, why is Eobard Thawne the same Eobard? i mean, I forgot how much i enjoyed Tom’s performance as Eobard, good on you, you almost got me distracted, but like, he cant just (say it with me guys) appear. also, he has no motivation! cool! i hate it! the only thing i could possibly think of is he just wants to see his earth again but also he hates the time period so what!!! literally just make him a different Eobard! you don’t need to explain why his face is Tom because you already explained that Earth X is just Earth 1 with Nazis! (which um, also time doesn’t work that way, especially with mass genocide and jewish characters)

with leads me to my next problem!

time doesn’t work that way, especially with mass genocide and jewish characters!!!

also, you mean to tell me in a world where everything’s the same except nazi’s, that Kara Zor-El did not immediately rage against the machine, especially if the who earth looked like a burning sepia photograph. also, dead bodies! same on any planet! She’s gunna freak! you can’t escape death and wholeheartedly accept genocide like that! not without a very good reason. really, instead of giving kara/x a dumb love thing, maybe make it about what shaped each of their beliefs despite coming from the same beginnings cause once again, it was established that everything’s the same except nazi’s, so krypton still died. and since you gotta shoehorn arrow in Bad Town, make it an unrequited love! cool! Cause Nazi’s portrayed on tv don’t deserve happiness! Sadly I can’t stop actual Nazi’s from finding love! Wish I could! Also why is Oliver the weak link when he’s the Fuhrer? its dumb, really dumb. also, Overgirl’s death is dumb, especially since it should have killed Kara as well. Basic logic says if a blast kills your doppelganger and you’re pretty close to next to them (guessing that Kara was able to escape a ways even though they were shown to be basically next to each other) you’re going to get more than a little falling action.

Also, you know what happens to jewish characters (and basically anyone who’s not a cis straight aryan at that point) on Earth X? pretty fucking obvious. You know what happens when you lose that much of a population and try to compare it to an earth without that loss? You realize you lose a lot more than you think, and a lot more things change. you probably don’t even have to think about it that hard, someone’s probably already done that thought experiment!

Here’s one I gotta shoehorn in,

Joe mentions the fact that Iris and Barry are both his children in a speech when they’re about to get married. Heres an option: Dont! Say how much he enjoyed seeing them grow up together without mentioning any familial bond that connects the two people getting married. Cool! You know why? Crossovers pull in new viewers! Also Supergirl has a younger audience! These! People! Don’t! Know! Any! Better!

Killing a Canon Jewish Character in an Episode about Nazi’s

There’s no way to paint this in a way that’s not shitty, especially when he didn’t have to die. You could have let him go back to his family. I can’t imagine what the thought process for this was. Shock value?! I don’t know. Maybe, because everyone expected Victor’s end to be Stein going home to his family. If it was, this really wasn’t the episode to do it in.

Next Up! Nazis!

Not good! Trying to backpedal and make your main villains have a non-nazi-ish reason for conflict? Worse! Nazi’s don’t deserve sympathy! They aren’t just a group of people in history! They’re a group of people in history who advocated for and took part in the absolute slaughter of millions. The numbers I checked agree it was near a billion when you include beyond just those who were jewish. What makes it worse is that this stain on human history has not died out. Sure, we all love punching Nazi’s, but as I understand, theres a lot more to it than that. Now we get into the part where my expertise lacks. As I understand it, one of the biggest problems in the comics is jewish coded heroes fighting as Nazis. How well did they avoid this? I don’t know! Someone please add to this! I want to know!

So, if I hated the crossover, why did I watch it?

The flippant answer is that i hate-watched it. watched it for the sole purpose of leaving a bad review. That’s not really the reason. If it was, why would i complain on tumblr of all places? i think the real reason was that I just had to know. I just wanted to give the dctv the benefit of the doubt because I love the flash so much, and that love ends up extending through a lot of the other shows and characters, and I wanted to trust that even though the whole premise was Bad, that they had a handle on it. I keep coming back because I’ve grown attached to these characters so much, leaving feels like leaving a part of me. But that’s just me, a lot of other people have their reasons for staying, and a lot of it is no longer about the quality of the show itself. It means we’re all holding on by our fingernails desperately trying to hold on to that magic or pretend it hasn’t faded. Eventually we’re going to let go. What does that mean for the show? Are they just going to lose a small portion of fans, or a whole sector? How many are going to find the changes better than the previous season and take our place? I dont know! i live in an internet bubble my dude! Tumblr isn’t great for gathering analytics! All I know is, bad writing doesn’t make or break a cw show. It’s the cw, I mean what do you expect? I signed up for this, i made my bed, i’ve chosen to lie in it, I can get up whenever i want, its just a matter of when because some day, I’m going to get fed up. You might have my view for a little while longer, but you won’t have my confidence, you won’t have my support.

#the cw #the cw supergirl #the cw legends of tomorrow #the cw arrow #the cw flash #crisis on earth x #dctv #dctv crossover #companypost #text #29th #November #2017 #November 29th 2017 #if you made it this far in my tags my dude you get the premium knowledge that posting something like this scares the flying hecks out of me #and i hope i never do it again

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August 31st, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 31st, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Alec in Wunderland by mintycanoodles.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Alec in Wunderland by mintycanoodles~! (https://tapas.io/series/Alec-in-Wunderland) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Tenor

Not fair that's hard to pick xD

RebelVampire

ironically while i usually struggle with that one, this time i know. its the scene where hattie is talking to the dormouse about alec. cause i liked the end to it where the dormouse is like "bro you gonna have to pick one or the other" and then hattie was like "i know"

that was randomly kind of dark

Tenor

Legit tho, there's a lot of scenes I really liked for various reasons. The opening scene for example was an excellent start, really pulled me in and still was well written enough you know there's going to be more and it was less 'random' based based off Lulu's questions about making sure this kid who will be abducted won't be missed.

Oh yes, the dramatic orchestra suddenly played a lower key there lol.

So far anything with Dormouse has been just pure gold for me, I'm absolutely sold with that character I can't stand it.

mathtans

I iz here! My fave scene is when they're arguing and that one guard is running by and pauses like, wait, what's going on? So they say "We're lost" and guard dumps instructions on them. Felt true to the world and characters and all and I found it funny too.(edited)

Tenor

Oh yes, the comedy scenes have been great, too! xD

But I think maybe utmost favorite just because 'why not' would be Dormouse stabbing the rocks from the collapsed tunnel. Just, BABY WHY THAT ISN'T HOW THAT WORKS

mathtans

I'm a Lulu fan myself. ^^ I also like when she just pushed Alec into the hole after making sure he wouldn't be missed.

Tenor

Lulu's ears are so precious. I love how emotive she is.

RebelVampire

i like the little touch of how because Lulu is young she doesnt have the hang of portals yet. that struck me as a little nice character detail that works for the plot. because often i feel stories forget young people are not rando good at everything

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

oh it started and i read this week

RebelVampire

good job delta

Tenor

I think the pressure TO be good at a young age doesn't help, either, in those cases too.

mathtans

Yeah, that's true. There's a nice mix of ages with Hattie being older too.

Tenor

/ Waves

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think my favorite scene would be when alec questions wether the orphanige is the better place to go back too

Tenor

It was a good question. /nod

RebelVampire

honestly cannot read that scene without picturing the caterpillar getting sassy

Tenor

Sadly I only know of Alice in Wonderland from Disney, I'm not versed in the books, or the other versions the creator is pulling from. So I don't know a lot of the references they may be pulling from so I'm curious how different everything is.

mathtans

Yeah - makes me wonder a bit if time is passing at the same rate in Wunderland? Like, the Alice thing supposedly didn't take much time at all when she returned.

Tenor

I picture the blue caterpillar with the Fairy Godmother's voice from the old Cinderella film <_< Not gunna lie.

mathtans

I read the "Alice" books but it was, like, 20 years ago. x.x

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

same Tenor

mathtans

Do we think there's a caterpillar for each region? I feel like that's a thing?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah i belive they said that

Tenor

There's concept for a green one I saw so I think so, yeah.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think there 5 in all

RebelVampire

maybe? i mean theyre certainly all in diff regions but idk if theres only five regions

mathtans

Yeah, the green one is huge. I guess they're all kind of different.... maybe by the end one is a butterfly? ^.^

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i mean 5 catapillars

mathtans

Oh, I think there's 7 regions. (They were on postcards near the start... and I think on wallpaper that was linked to....)

RebelVampire

i know you meant the caterpillars. but im saying you cant have a caterpillar in every region if there are technically more regions

FONCreator the pun king

Fuck I can't remember uhhhhh.....

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

sup zac

FONCreator the pun king

Probably the whole introduction of it

Generic yes, but I like how it was handled

Tenor

Redd also lists the areas.

(I think it was Redd)

(Campfire scene -yanks open the comic-)

mathtans

Rebel - Yeah, I get what you're saying. Maybe there's 5 caterpillars and a couple butterflies. Or maybe some regions are kind of inhospitable (one's a desert).

Tenor

(Yes Redd, 7 total so eeey)

RebelVampire

two regions are just too cool to have caterpillars

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

or hot

Tenor

I'm curious what the roles the caterpillars play. And the Otherlander plays tbh. Since apparently they keep yanking those into this realm to see if they'll live or die /shot

RebelVampire

they gotta continue that alec/alice cycle yo(edited)

mathtans

Maybe it's a bit like chess, you just have to hit all of them in order to be crowned at the end.

RebelVampire

but i also wonder how canon those queen alice the first pics are

mathtans

Oooh yeah, the history! Like, previous people who weren't found worthy or who fled and such.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yeah that looked like a staute straight out of the time burton version(edited)

Tenor

I'm curious on Alice, too.

Too much curious HNNNG need more updates xD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

even had the vorpal blade in her hand

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

loves the fact that the creator puts hidden mickeys in the pages

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

WAIT REALLY(edited)

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

LOL

Tenor

I didn't even notice those until I read a comment that called it out.

mathtans

You got slipped a mickey.

Tenor

Then I had to go back- LOL

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

mat please

mathtans

Here's a thought, I wonder if there was someone before Alec who just kind of gave up, and is still living in the world now, and they meet him/her.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I keep messing up the time and now I am ehre

RebelVampire

oh thatd be an interesting plot point

Tenor

Eyy~

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

i noticed that the catepillar said "i hope this one makes it" and automatically made me think "o no is there dead kids before him"

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I want to see a sea of dead kids but I think it's too lighthearted for that

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

LOL

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Or at least a graveyard

Tenor

I'm curious on the foreshadowing/call out about Redd not liking leaving people behind. <_< Curious what's happened there. /dundun dunnnn.

mathtans

Cali - Yeah, I had a similar thought, but then I figured maybe they didn't die they just gave up. Or went native or something.

Tenor

Oh lord.

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

a kid that fell into despair

Tenor

or insanity.

FONCreator the pun king

Yo this is a Wonderland story

Somehow

Tenor

Lets be honest you gotta come to terms with this place LOL

FONCreator the pun king

Someway

It'll get dark

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Good

RebelVampire

@math they couldve faked their death too. been like "haha now i can quit the trial" and then realized they couldnt leave

mathtans

Maybe Redd was left behind sometime. That's how he hooked up with Dormouse.

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

plot twist; previous kid is an antagonist

FONCreator the pun king

Zero to a hundred real fast I bet

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

And then all the callipillars bring out their hoookas and are like "Damm son, this again."

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

only just begun reading it lol

mathtans

Rebel: Oooh, that's an interesting prospect!

Tenor

GO CALI GO

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

omg redd and dormouse is adorable

Tenor

Dormouse is best captain.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I also have an idea that the Hattie character has something to do with the previous children or even Alice

I wonder if Alice is the current queen

mathtans

I don't think she's current because didn't someone else take over? And put Ace in charge of where they're at now?

Hattie could be though. There were pictures of young Hattie at one point.

RebelVampire

do we even know if alice is canon tho? they could just be for funsies images

canon in the sense alice herself is semi in the story

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't think they ever hinted that the original story was canon(edited)

Tenor

No clue. I'd like her to be a more throwback, personally, rather than current queen but that's me.

FONCreator the pun king

I think Alice is canon from the Alec in Doodle land stuff

Gotta double chck

mathtans

We don't know. Could be the last person subjected to the trials was an artist and did paintings.

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Hmm plot twist, Hattie is the actual queen running from their job and someone else took their job and is making everything crazy

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well her flashback did show her childhood was a wealthy one

FONCreator the pun king

That twist

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i was dissaponited she didn't have a hat when a child

Tenor

She had to grow into it I'm sure xD

AWH BUT BABY HATTIE IN AN UPSIDEDOWN TOPHAT

Babycarrier/crib lets go.

FONCreator the pun king

Yessss

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

more smol hattie is always good

Tenor

like 99% hair

all sticking out from the brim of the hat

mathtans

I feel like Hattie's too responsible to just up and leave if she was supposed to be in charge.

RebelVampire

maybe the magic is in the hat hence why she couldnt have it as a kid. cant let kids just play around with infinite hat powers

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I would laugh if the hat actually grew from her head

Like no hat, and then a hat sprouted from the head like poof, hat

mathtans

Seems kind of old hat to me.

Tenor

Go home LOL

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I'm so drunk but not drunk becuase Wonderland don't drink the potion

mathtans

Wunderland you mean?

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Throughout the comic it’s hinted that Alec has a larger purpose for being in Wunderland and is participating in some sort of trial. What do you think Alec is meant to do while in Wunderland? What does it have to do with finding the other Caterpillars? What happened to those who came before Alec?

mathtans

Maybe they'll eventually have a trial scene, like they did with the Queen of Hearts accusing the Knave of stealing the tarts in the original.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i think hes meant to bring proper choas, not this orderly crap handed out by royals

RebelVampire

if i assume alice being the queen at some point in the history is a thing, maybe these trials are so alec can become king of wunderland

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

that may be

RebelVampire

cause biological inheritance not crazy enough for wunderland

gotta decide rulers by trial

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well its a better way than being born into it(edited)

Tenor

I kinda think the same? I do feel maybe Alice might be a hint that the royalty are otherlanders and the first can't leave until the next takes its place.

Which if you pull the Queen of Hearts into the idea from what I remember, Alice being a threat bc noooo I want to keep the throne /shot.

mathtans

So Alec marries Alice? This is a test to find the Queen a King?

Tenor

Oh I'm thinking replacements.

Though that could, too, work.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe?

Tenor

Mine's a bit more dark in the idea that Wunderland doesn't have the same time-span as earth (or maybe Otherlanders are age-lessly immortal here) and Alice can't leave to go home until someone worthy can take her spot.

mathtans

Be interesting if Alice just went mad or something, so they need to get her help. The trials are to make sure her replacement doesn't go mad.

I don't see how the caterpillars fit though.

RebelVampire

yeah regardless of theories on the what im really confused about the caterpillars and what the point of visiting them is

like are they just gonna say hey thanks for stopping by

Tenor

Could still fit alongside it: Like, maaaaybe they want the system to end? Or, darker, they want Alice to stay, Alec to be king with her? Never leave gotta stay.

RebelVampire

its possible alice had a king sadly cause one of the pics she was in a portrait with some guy

mathtans

The caterpillars seem to be evaluating Alec? Like the blue one tried to make sure he really wanted to be there... the green one might wonder if he... eats his veggies...?

Tenor

LOL

Rebel: True, I forgot that!

RebelVampire

https://tapas.io/episode/336206

oh LOL

title is even literally her consort

i have killed a theory

rip

im so sorry

Tenor

-hand over mouth-

That looks like Hattie relative.

mathtans

It's just "Portrait of a Queen" not "Portrait of Alice".

Could be the Queen of Hearts.

RebelVampire

but that is definitely alice cause of a different picture XD

Tenor

There's a picture later that's called Alice the First

mathtans

Ahh, okay.

Tenor

or earlier -looks-

https://tapas.io/episode/381442 Queen Alice the First

mathtans

Too many Queens! (That's a thing in the original, because you get the Chess Queens too.)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

huh

RebelVampire

unless the queen of hearts and alice are related

or alice is the queen of hearts in this version

Tenor

Could be.

mathtans

The White Queen!

Tenor

Either way can't unsee the consort looking like Hattie now so I'm doomed.

RebelVampire

OH YEAH i forgot that was a character

mathtans

Who lives backwards!

Tenor

Especially since the photos of who may be mom looks less like Hattie <_<

RebelVampire

nah i thought that too. that the consort looks like hattie so i assume its the "original" mad hatter(edited)

mathtans

Oh, that's clever.

Tenor

Alice/Hatter ships are pretty common too so maybe. <<

RebelVampire

plot twist: not even. just some random dude

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

fuckin randy

Tenor

I'll cry LOL

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

is caught up now

Tenor

My heart's set now xD

EYY

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

I REALLY LIKE THIS COMIC SO FAR

RebelVampire

good job cali

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

ITS SO CUTE

i have mixed feelings on the "PROTECT IMPORTANT PERSON VS SAVE FRIEND" thing

mathtans

Lulu for the cute!

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Wait the queen and the consort.....

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

lulu is adorable

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

HATTIE BEING NEXT QUEEEN THEORY MIGHT BE TRUE

Tenor

Depending on why the important person needs protected, I can understand why but yeah, not an easy choice. THEN AGAIN THEM LITERALLY GOING TO GET LULU WOULD HAVE FIT THE FAKE PRISONER PLAN A LOT BETTER JUST SAYIN xD

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

i can totally see the 'alec becomes king' thing

Tenor

But, y'know, one of their main tacticians stabs rocks with a scimitar so /shot

mathtans

I like the little explanations put in too, like how Lulu can't do her portal thing unless she's on ground.

FONCreator the pun king

Yee I can see that thing happening too cal

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

everytime i see the name alec my brain keeps wanting to say alex

RebelVampire

to be fair to their strategy/tactician skills, a guard did question nothing and was like "oh here let me tell you how to get to everywhere in this place"

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well her portals are rabbit holes

Tenor

Every time I see Alec I see Mandy from Billy and Mandy now thanks to the Halloween special so, fff.

mathtans

Maybe Alec doesn't become King, but he has to be the one to choose the ruler? Like, between Hattie and someone else? They need to test for heart purity to make the decision.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i see that too Tenor

Tenor

Rebel: Yeah but they didn't know that when they built their plan that a guard was a jabberjaw. xD

FONCreator the pun king

True true

Tenor

(Presh button guard too hnnn)

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

alec also totally looks as if he'd be a sibling of rose lalone/dave strider

of homestuck

too

Tenor

Never read it so no idea but I know some comments mentioned it so eeey

Skeleton Honey

I love homestuck

mathtans

I liked how it was totally lucky that they talked to the guard though. Like, he was just running by and "wait, what?".

Skeleton Honey

Excited for hiveswap this september

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

haha i really like that guard they ran into too

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

skelly please this is about a different comic

Tenor

YEAAAH I Screamed at the girls arguing in that panel, too

Deity Cali of BISHIES OF SPEEDS

"OH YOU GUYS LOOK TOTALLY TRUSTWORTHY HERES ALL THE DIRECTIONS"

Tenor

"NOW IS NOT THE TIME GIRLS"

Skeleton Honey

Sorry

Tenor

"LADIES - PLEASE"

RebelVampire

now is always the time for arguing

its part of the masterplan

Tenor

Apparently lmao.

mathtans

They did have to knock him out in the end.

RebelVampire

cause if they get arrested for real theyre sure to find Lulu!

Tenor

TRUE.

mathtans

Rebel: Truth.

Tenor

Well sorta, apparently she's in process of getting moved.

mathtans

But they might miss the caterpillar.

Tenor

Omg that would blow tho - get caught, tossed in the cell, as your friend is getting dragged off

... if her teleporting only works when she's on the ground she has to be carried omg.

mathtans

Well, I figured "ground" was like "earth" so if she's on wood or stones it wouldn't work.

Tenor

That'd explain why she hasn't poofed in the cell actually, good point <_<

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe there needs to be a set ammout of matearil below where the portal has to appear for it to work

FONCreator the pun king

good point

mathtans

If she was upside down with earth above her, would it work?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

so many questions

RebelVampire

since were on the topic of Lulu, i noticed the ace of spades mentioned that they didnt "think there were anymore white rabbits." does that mean there was a white rabbit genocide? O_O

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

seems like it

or maybe they just left

Tenor

Well if people keep wanting a pocket rabbit for teleporting for world domination, yeah they'd probably die out.

FONCreator the pun king

Probably yeah

The white bun must be protected at all costs

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yes

mathtans

Wow. Hum. I missed that. Maybe I thought it just meant they all dyed their hare?

Tenor

FFF-

RebelVampire

math plz

thatd be really high maintenance

FONCreator the pun king

XDD

I mean they could've

mathtans

Srlsy though, maybe they're undercover.

Tenor

that would suuuuuuuuck

at the same time imagine an old one in a wagon

traveling sloooowly across the lands

bitching the entire time because he can't teleport or he'll get found out.

mathtans

Maybe they're all in the Otherland looking for recruits.

Tenor

Or just having said "F-Wunderland"

RebelVampire

i think you mean looking for children to kidnap

FONCreator the pun king

Tenor

FFF-

mathtans

That too.

In her time off, Lulu likes to find Lemons.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

kidnap recriut, its all semantics

FONCreator the pun king

RebelVampire

but now i just picture some rabbit standing on the corner being like "Sir, sir! How would you like to experience a land of adventure, magic, and should I say....wunder? Our location is actively looking for recruits to try out our new activities!"

FONCreator the pun king

xDD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

no they take kids

"hey wanna go a magic adventure"

Tenor

Omg.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

"just hop down the hole"

mathtans

With discounts at Lulu Lemon.

Tenor

Comes off a like a peddling con man.

RebelVampire

"Hey kid get in the portal thats not a white van"

QUESTION 3. Wunderland is not only large, but seems to have its own complicated political system in place (example: the Queen of Diamonds installing her own tyrannical Ace to rule the Land of Rain). Do you think this sort of political conflict will play into the plot? If so, how? Do you think the other suits have their own rulers and various subordinates? Do you have any other thoughts about the world itself?

FONCreator the pun king

Depending on the author's skill I'd say its highly possible

Its a very interesting take on Wonderland so far, it ain't as dark as it has been adapted as most of the time

mathtans

It's all a ploy by the Jokers.

FONCreator the pun king

Its rather cutesy/lineless artstyle helps it stand distinct

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I like the artstyle a lot as well

and also I need to head off to get to work so I hope you guys have fun with the rest of the CTP

FONCreator the pun king

Its very much similar to Samurai Jack and The X's

Tenor

I think it's already potentially showing in the plot. They've taken over a location important to the green caterpillar based off the information in chapter 2. I DO hope there's other rulers, as I like to imagine the 'cards' as houses in particular - gotta follow who holds the seat but everyone wants theirs in head.

RebelVampire

thanks for coming feather~!

FONCreator the pun king

And alrighty Duke

Tenor

Bai Feather~!

mathtans

I didn't even really notice the lineless thing. It's subtle.

FONCreator the pun king

Yeah looking more into it, its not THAT lineless, but it gives the feeling of it

Tenor

The amount of lineless reminds me of papercraft

FONCreator the pun king

It also helps fit with the background, but not be too bleneded in

Tenor

Lineless where it would be 'cut' but otherwise lines to give depth, and I really like that feeling

Yeeees

FONCreator the pun king

Once again like Samurai JAck, but with more lines that are darker shades of their colors

Tenor

I haven't seen Samurai Jack in so long I honestly wouldn't be able to picture it unless I look it up lol

OTL

FONCreator the pun king

But SJ's lines mainly came from helping seperate things like fingers, heads and such

So its not just an abstract mess

Tenor

-Nod-

mathtans

There must be some order to it. The spades were designated green. (Wait, why does the Ace of Diamond have spades working for him? There must be a hierarchy then?)

RebelVampire

yeah there has to be a hierarchy going on. which we can at least assume that the aces are under the royal cards albeit idk where jacks would fall

FONCreator the pun king

Perhaps

If there is a hierarchy, then hearts/diamonds must be on the higher up scale

Clubs and spades being the lackeys

mathtans

It's usually jack-queen-king.

Tenor

Considering the power shift from Hearts to Diamonds in that case would imply lots have changed.

FONCreator the pun king

yeah

mathtans

If we're playing bridge, the order is clubs-diamonds-hearts-spades-noTrump.

Diamond uprising?

FONCreator the pun king

Once again depends

We don't know the full story yet

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

always political upheaval in these settings

RebelVampire

it could just be the suits trade around tho. so the the kings and queens just trade around the lesser cards regardless of suit.

FONCreator the pun king

True

mathtans

They have draft picks.

Tenor

FFF-

mathtans

(Daft picks?)

(Daft punk picks?)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

yes

thats where you pick your favorite songs from them(edited)

RebelVampire

but maybe in the case of the queen of diamonds installing her own maybe its implied that this ace is a spade but in the queen of diamonds' pocket and the king and/or queen of spades is none the wiser

mathtans

I like the idea of trading around though, it's possible. There's also Anchors and Crowns in the extended card decks.

Or maybe they are the wiser but don't care.

RebelVampire

are like eh

just the forest ppl

they suck

mathtans

There is that underlying thread of darkness, so it's hard to say for a lot of things, could go either way. ^^

RebelVampire

i still dont understand what the caterpillars' role is tho @_@

Tenor

To hide their hookahs from the rest of the world.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe the catapillars are like sages here...kinda like the original

mathtans

I think it's some sort of evaluation? Like they're the judges somehow? They test willingness and strength and stuff like that.

FONCreator the pun king

Give it time

mathtans

Green seems very large. I wonder if Green was always like that or if it was something they ate.

Tenor

Considering the concept I saw I thought the green caterpillar was just using magic to summon a golem type of thing.

But if they can transform that's cool too

mathtans

Ohh, that could be.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i feel like the size has to do with the ace fucking up the forest

mathtans

I admit I'm not that into politics, real or imagined.

RebelVampire

thats okay math

there is a question i want to pose but i need to find the scene to verify

Tenor

I believe in you

mathtans

There was the robbing of that stagecoach. So again, implies people in power and people not.

RebelVampire

ok so the question i want to pose is that when alec sees the blue caterpillar he gets told that if he stays hell find what hes looking for. alec asks what is it hes looking for and just gets told he has to figure that out. so what is alec looking for and why is finding the caterpillars supposed to help with that?

FONCreator the pun king

Because plot convience

Tenor

Caterpillars may be a goal post. Could be a metaphor of "you'll find yourself" through going through these trials, and by finding himself he'll be able to find WHAT it is he wants in life - assuming the caterpillar doesn't already know ofc.

Random option, Alice adopts him rather than he becomes king because he's an orphan and most orphans want families.

FONCreator the pun king

But really I think its because it could be parraleling the actual Alice with Alec having to findhimself like Tenor said

Tenor

(typically)

mathtans

What we're all looking for, a purpose? I'm not sure the caterpillars will necessarily help but the journey might, and I still think they're testing his suitability somehow.

FONCreator the pun king

And finding the caterpillers could be something they told him to do to kick his self discovery journey into gear

mathtans

Or a family, true.

RebelVampire

maybe hattie adopts him instead

mathtans

There's possibly a metaphor in that too. Using caterpillars. Who grow up to be butterflies.

RebelVampire

and alec, hattie, and lulu live a happy family life together(edited)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

that would be nice rebel

FONCreator the pun king

yee

Tenor

That'd be cute too, Rebel.

Much potential for cute. :D

mathtans

Until the dark times came upon them all.

RebelVampire

part of me feels like telling him that was more just a ploy to get him to stay. cause him passing this trial seems important to them so i highly doubt if he self discovers anything itll matter to them

mathtans

He may discover the power to rule them was in him all along.

Or something. RebelVampire

the way you worded that made me think he becomes a tyrannical dictator XD

QUESTION 4. Given this comic is a retelling of Alice in Wonderland, which characters are you interested in seeing in this version? What role do you think some of these yet to be seen characters will play (assuming they do appear of course)?

FONCreator the pun king

Jabberwocky, Queen of Hearts, and Dee and Dum

mathtans

I saw someone mention the Cheshire Cat in comments and the author was vague about it. I played the CCat once in a play. ^^

FONCreator the pun king

Forgot if Dee and Dum were already introduced or not

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'm curious to see when the cheshire cats comes out

Tenor

Cheshire Cat for me, too, as he was the only prevalent one I remember growing up.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i don't there were introduced zac

mathtans

Funny thing is how the White Rabbit and the March Hare have kinda been rolled into one character in Lulu? There could be hybrids also.

FONCreator the pun king

True true

Chesire Cat might be a baddie merged with somethig else RebelVampire

i have another vote for cheshire cat. got have the creepy teleporting with a smile going on.

FONCreator the pun king

Could be a great rival to Lulu

If they teleportation is kept

*the RebelVampire

the cheshire cat may at least be a neutral baddie cause generally depictions have the cheshire cat never pick sides. is just there to cause chaos

FONCreator the pun king

true

Even still

with the chesire cat potentially being brought in

maybe certain colored animals can teleport or have dimensional abilities

They did specifically mention they didn't think "White Rabbits" were still around

So maybe Chesire Cats are the only cats who can teleport

again, if chesire cat comes into play

Tenor

I don't think the Chesire Cat can teleport others versus just itself tho? Then again it being a being of nuetral chaos who knows it's potential abilities. <_<;

mathtans

Maybe it's a Kitty. Smol Cheshire.

Tenor

So long as I get to see it fade with random body parts around I'll be happy tbh lol

FONCreator the pun king

yee

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i wonder if the jabberwock is still around, cuase the staute of the queen had her with the vorpal blade

RebelVampire

i want there to be a plot point where lulu messes up the portal again and all alone alec bumps into the cheshire cat. cause then alec is helpless to the chaos. but then hattie and lulu come to save the day and lulu lectures CC

Tenor

I'm sure it'll be an alone-meet up at first, for sure.

Everyone probably thinks Alec is crazy bc that thing should be dead due to age or something but it's really alive and well driving people batty

FONCreator the pun king

yee

mathtans

The Mock Turtle could be fun. Maybe instead of being a fake turtle he mocks people.

RebelVampire

thatd actually be kind of interesting if the cheshire cat was just super immortal

FONCreator the pun king

oh yee

mathtans

Our school put on "Wonderland" a couple years ago. The guy playing the Mock Turtle somehow nailed the inflection. Didn't really talk slow, but you kinda felt like he was.

Tenor

I can't remember any of these characters xD

mathtans

The puns are good with that character.

Tenor

OH LORD

mathtans

"How many hours a day did you do lessons?" "Ten hours the first, nine the next and so on." "How curious." "That's the reason they're called lessons, they lessen from day to day."

RebelVampire

no omg LOL

it hurts

Tenor

kajshdklJAHS

BAD. LOL

mathtans

Most of the Mock Turtle dialogue is like that.

RebelVampire

and its okay Tenor im only really familiar with the disney alice in wonderland and i actually dont even like that movie.

mathtans

Would drive Alec nuts.

FONCreator the pun king

xDDD

I wanna be the mock turtle

Tenor

I can't remember it enough

mathtans

You'd be good at it, FON.

Tenor

I remember liking the Hatter and especially cheshire cat.

And the uhm, dark Alice game's cheshire cat

(Never played it but I had the script read to me and I really liked that version too)

So yeah, really eager to see Alec's translation of the character

mathtans

"If a fish came to me and said he was going on a journey, I'd say 'with what porpoise?'." "Do you mean purpose?" "I mean what I say."

Anyway.

RebelVampire

so do all fish in wonderland have to take journeys with porpoises? important question here

mathtans

I feel like we might get chessboard action too from "Through the Looking Glass", I seem to recall reading an author comment there somewhere.

Rebel: I don't know. Seems fishy to me.

RebelVampire

math no. the chat so saturated with puns now its going to leak

FONCreator the pun king

xDD

Come on, there never be tuna much

RebelVampire

so as a random insert, i like that alec is really practical in a sense compared to other renditions of alice ive seen

Tenor

I think it's a reflection of how times have changed too/their backstory.

mathtans

That's true! Well, also a bit stubborn for walking around on that path and nearly falling off a cliff.

Tenor

Like the Disney Alice was just a well todoish girl bored with her studies.

Screw going around the puddle we'll walk through it LOL

mathtans

Alec follows the rules.

RebelVampire

yeah and disney alice was also....just kind of innocently accepting. whereas alec meets the first caterpillar is like "ummm i was kidnapped wtf is going on"

FONCreator the pun king

Hmmm, maybe this story is about Alec learning that sometimes rules need to be broken and things need to be questioned

mathtans

Oooh, I like that FON.

I don't recall the Disney all that well. I mostly remember the one our school put on those few years back. ^^

Do you think we'll leave Redd and Dormouse behind after this part of the quest is done? New characters every setting?

RebelVampire

i hope redd stays a perma member to be honest

redd a good bro

and cause i could see dormouse being like "redd youre fired"

mathtans

Yeah, he seems to have a good attitude and a past it would be good to learn more about...

He did run off with Alec without permission!

(...someone's probably on board with that ship.)

RebelVampire

gets on board the ship even tho i wasnt but why not sail all the ships create an armada

but yeah im gonna be sad if redd going off with alec doesnt have further significance

Tenor

Redd seems to really care about Alec/the situation so who knows.

mathtans

Oooh, maybe Redd was a former person subjected to the trials? That's why he doens't like leaving people behind.

Tenor

I hope Dormouse sticks around even if it's for selflish reasons.

mathtans

Couldn't have been recruited by Lulu though, or Hattie would know him.

RebelVampire

yes i accept this as headcanon for redd now.

well to be fair

hattie mentions the last trial was like 10 years ago

so even hattie wouldve only be 20 i believe

mathtans

Ahh, possible.

Tenor

And depending on Lulu's age she might not have been involved.

RebelVampire

i think one of the things said lulu is 17?

FONCreator the pun king

Yeah Lulu's like 17-18

RebelVampire

and alec is 14 i remember that

mathtans

Yip. In human years anyway.

Tenor

-NOd-

RebelVampire

but yeah it could work cause hattie and lulu couldve just been too young to recruit

mathtans

Maybe things were less dire back then.

(I mean, I guess so, Green was easier to get to.)

FONCreator the pun king

Alrighty ^^

Can't wait for the next one

Tenor

THIS WAS FUN :D

RebelVampire

yeah that could be

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lil-nct-scenarios-11 · 8 years ago

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Jeno- Too Late

Group: NCT- Jeno

Theme: Request- you + Jeno are best friends and u like him but before u can confess, he dates someone else and realizes that he’s in love with the reader

Type: one shot- angst

Plot: A simple afternoon hanging out with your best friend, Jeno, turned out to be a heartbreaking one done unintentionally as he told you about his crush, not aware of your feelings for him. A few months later as you try to move on, he realizes that he feels something for you but when he tries to make things ok, do you comply easily or suppress it?

“Haha today was crazy! That sub did not care at all, the class was wild. Man wait til Ms. Emery hears about this when that one kid snitches on us, omg did you see his face? He looked as if he watched a family get slaughtered or something, omg today was an actually a fun day at school. How often do you hear me saying somethin’ good about school?” you ask Jeno, gushing about your day at school.

“I know, did Y/N actually enjoy school today? Where's my Y/N who absolutely loathes school? I didn’t hear her talking about that one couple who’s always making out before math or how ‘shitty’ lunch was or how Mr. Piller assigned, and I quote, ‘literally 5 hours of bio homework’. Who are you and what have you done to my best friend?” Jeno asks joking, stopping to look directly in your eyes with his hands behind his back.

You scoff as you shove him lightly, “Don’t think you’re being a lil too extra? Let me just enjoy this day,” you say simply as you stretch out your arms to the air, embracing the sunlight.

Jeno just replies with a chuckle and asks you, “Hey do you want an ice cream cone?”

“Yes? Why you still gotta ask me, you know I’m always down for ice cream,” you reply.

He just smiles to himself and buys you a cone from a ice cream vendor and joins you to continue the walk to the park you two always go to hang out by after school. You enjoy your vanilla cone contently without a word to Jeno as you think out how you want to confess to him. Yea, sure you knew this was a cliché, a best friend falling in love with their best friend. What you didn’t know or expect were the following words from Jeno’s mouth.

“You know Grace right? I really like her and I was planning on asking her out tomorrow,” Jeno says super casually as he continues to finish off his cone.

Your heart drops to your stomach and you stare at Jeno with your jaw dropped down in shock. You quickly recover and shout, “WHAT! JENO! HOW COME YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU HAVE A CRUSH ON GRACE AND SINCE WHEN HAVE YOU BEEN SO BRAVE? AM I NOT YOUR BEST FRIEND, WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME THIS NOW THE DAY BEFORE YOU ARE GUNNA FREAKIN ASK HER OUT?”

He starts to laugh, oblivious to the fact his laughter sounds and replays in your head everytime you go back to this memory. “You see I wanted to tell you this sooner but I wasn’t sure how I really felt about her but now after talking to her a lot, I realized that I really like her and stuff. She’s really nice, has a nice smile, and she reminds me a lot of you in a strange way and I donnu how I feel about that but-”

His words blend together as you stop listening to what he had to say about Grace and tried to not let your eyes well up with tears. Your eyes were burning because they desperately needed relief but you denied them. ‘Not now, not in front of Jeno,’ you think to yourself.

“Y/N? Y/N?” Jeno asks concernedly as he waves his hand in front of you.

You snap out and widen your eyes in shock, “Yea, sorry. I was just hurt you didn’t tell me sooner. Listen, I gotta go, I just remembered I got some stuff to do at home. But good luck for tomorrow, I’m sure she’ll say yes because you’re a great guy and you’ll never hurt her,” you force a sad smile. You hastily give him a hug and start to head off to your house, not giving him the chance to stop you and making a mental note to not come to this park for a long while.

The thought of Jeno being with somebody else is etched in you mind and all other thoughts of anything logical zones out to shine the spotlight on Jeno and that bitch Grace. Anger boils inside of you but sadness overcomes you. ‘Why, why her? Who the fuck even is she? She doesn’t know him like I do and she never will because if Jeno ever dares to talk about our memories with her then they will all just be a story to her but it will always remain a memory between because we fucking lived through it and that lil bitch will never get a taste of what that was like. Why is she so damn nice too, like I can’t even say she’s ugly ughhhhhh why? Fuck Jeno, I don't care, he can be with who he wants, I don't own him. If he never bothered to tell me about her before why should I pretend to care now? That explains why he’s been a lil distracted recently, I bet he doesn’t even think of how much he really means to me. Who knew such a sweet guy like him was capable of causing so much pain without even knowing it? All these years and now I decide to develop feelings for him when I can't have him. All these feelings only to go unrequited and shattered. Hmm well, I guess I better get used to it, damn this really hurts. Why does this is hurt so much, its not like he’ll ever know? Damn, I’m a mess... such a fuckin mess,’ you think as you slide down your front door and break down into your hands after you locking it.

* * *

5 and a half empty months later, you find 7 missed calls make their way back on your lock screen. And they were all from your ‘best friend’ who hasn’t bothered to call the past few months. You simply ignore them, just like how you were ignoring the feeling of longing you craved from him. Then there came the notification of a voicemail. Your heart dropped once more because you dreaded hearing his voice. The soft croak that he always has whenever he starts talking always gets you. But with lots of hesitation and a heavy heart, you unlock your phone and go to listen to his voicemail. Your thumb lingers over the button but you press it to reveal his message.

“y/n, hey um its been a while and im sorry. i wanna meet you, th... there’s

something i need to tell you in person. i know you always check your

voicemails and stuff so just meet me at the park after school tomorrow.

ok um bye y/n, see you tomorrow,

i miss you”

A single tear fell but only at the muffled part where he said ‘i miss you’. His voice was so gruff and thick with emotion and you can imagine him speaking with a blank face on his face as he tries to distract himself by staring at something meaningless. You wiped your tear and wondered if you should really go or not.

‘What’s the worst that could happen? It’s not like he’s gunna be on his knees, crying, telling me that he loves me or somethin bizarre like that. I miss him too, I’ve known him for 5 years so these 5 months made me realize how much we’ve really been there for each other through practically everything but this. We’ve grown so much together, I wonder how much he’s changed without me by his side. Damn, I really miss him too..’

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The school bell rings and you take your time to walk to the park. You’ve have never this nervous to meet up with him but then again you’ve never went a few days without seeing him in the past. The past few months have been really hard, it sucks when you lose a friend to their significant other and it sucks even more when its your best friend. You see him at school often but never interact for whatever odd reason but mostly because it just stung whenever you saw him. And it didn't help that you two had almost all of your friends in common so you would bump into him a lot, most of the time it was just pretty awkward.

When you arrive at the park, you saw Jeno sitting at your usual spot looking very distressed. Your heart sinks and you will yourself not to run up to him and hold him. Jeno looks up by hearing the sound of your feet scuffling and there was a certain look that replaced his cheery gleam in his eyes, this gleam seemed much more somber. A small smile stretches onto his face and he stands up to properly greet you.

“Y/N, you came,” he says quietly, almost to himself. “Hey, how have you been?”

“I’ve been ok, how ‘bout you? How’s Grace?,” you ask with a slight bitter tone.

He looks confused then his face starts to loosen up as he replies, “Oh yea, she’s ok I think. We broke up a while ago so I don’t really know. I don’t wanna talk about her, I wanna talk about us.”

“’Us’? I think that ‘us’ went away along with Grace because there hasn't been an ‘us’ in a long time Jeno,” you mutter softly, avoiding eye contact.

“I know and I’m really sorry about that. No one is ever worth me losing my best friend, the only one that has stuck with me through thick and thin, the only one that I can honestly confine in. Y/N, you have no idea how much you fuckin mean to me, I’ve been a complete mess without you. So much so that I realized that I love you. I always have, it’s just that I never knew if I was in love with our friendship or with you but it’s both. I feel so stupid to say ‘I love you’ at a time like this, I should be mending our friendship first instead of jumping straight into.. this. And I don’t even know if you even feel the same,” he mumbles, his voice faltering towards the end.

“I did. I loved you. But its too late now Jeno, I don't think I wanna pursue a relationship with you. I’m sorry, it just hurts too much. When... when you told me that you were gunna ask out Grace, I just went home wondering ‘why, why her?’ What did she have that I couldn't give you? And that’s the same day I wanted to tell you how I felt about you and I thought it would be a great day but oh, was I wrong. I donnu how I feel about an ‘us’ right now but I miss you and I need you. In those months I realized how much I needed you because you were always there then, suddenly you just weren’t there anymore. It just didn’t feel the same to pick up the phone and tell you that I’m over because I missed your cat. Nothing felt the same anymore, it felt as if somebody took a part of me that explained my very existence. Jeno, as much as I want to let you back in, how do I know you’re not gunna hurt me again because Jeno, I’m scared, I’m really scared,” your voice breaks as you shiver in the wind.

“Y/N,” he reaches out for your hands and falls on his knees with his buried in your hands. “Y/N, I’m so sorry I hurt you like that. I promise, I will never abandon you like that again. I don't know what I was thinking, I didn’t even like Grace honestly. I give you my word because I never wanna bare going 5 whole months without talking to my best friend, my favorite person in the world. I don't wanna lose my best friend for good, no one can ever take your place, ever. Y/N, forgive me I know I’ve must’ve hurt you a lot but I can proudly tell you that I love you even if you don’t feel the same because I just want you back, best friend or girl/boyfriend.”

You put your hand on his shoulder, kneel down, and put your finger beneath his chin to make his moist eyes meet yours. You place your hand on his check softly, as you begin, “Jeno, let’s take it one step at a time. Lemme be your best friend again then I’ll be your girl/boyfriend because as much as I was hurting, I don’t think I can ever ‘unlove’ you. I don't ever wanna risk losing you like that again, that was too scary and too close. But we’re here now, and we aren't going anywhere, well except to get ice cream because it was my turn.”

You smile gently as a tear fell down your face but you chuckle and ruffle Jeno’s hair makin him smile again, knowing that things were going back to normal.

*yall know how hard it was to find a gif where he wasn't smiling and that’s good because he should always have a smile on his face

*also its been a while since i wrote so i feel rusty lol and is it just me or does this scenario seem very similar to ‘one last time’

* also also this scenario hit kinda close to home bc I went through a very similar situation to this except i never got the happy ending haha bc like no body really goes down on their knees anymore lol

*anyways hope you guys enjoyed this scenario, i enjoyed writing it!

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gooodluckmode · 8 years ago

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im deep in the vld hole here and need to voice my thoughts on kallura given literally everything so far & how i believe it doesnt make sense? (even though a lot of ppl have already said that) and maybe my worries will subside a bit. this most definitely might be a jumbled mess but i hope if youre worried or anxious or just kinda ehhh on the whole possibility this will help your worries subside too!!

(definitely got longer than i intended it to be but its coherent!)

i guess first ill go with the vld staff and crew. have to start with this dont @ me: lauren montgomery retweeted very obviously romantic klance art months ago (which im still not over lol). onto more serious stuff, i do know in an interview it was said sexuality can be explored? jeremy shada has said on a few occasions that he wants more keith and lance interaction and he has said that lance is gonna mature! i see that as a really good opportunity to address sexuality - have lance contemplate his bc of his feelings for keith. like that potential just seems so big and i would be disappointed if they wasted it?? lance obviously has confidence issues and to have him work through everything would be rly nice to see? also bex brought up klance in an interview and looked so devious and happy when she said she likes watching the klance shippers explode (i love her). she also said kallura is a bromance and thats it. of course this means nothing for sure but its stuff to think about. steven yeun said quite strangely that you never know where the romance is or who it is between so like ?? that can go both ways given what question he gave that as an answer to (it was about keith and allura). and just in general i know this crew isnt against lgbt content and representation (they’ve already done a bit with pidge & worked on lok which has korrasami!) so why not go further? and of course if they do go further, im just gunna guess and say it would be with klance, and if klance happens, well, kallura cant? honestly vld is ripe for amazing storytelling and relationships (if they choose to address romantic relationships - which if they dont thats totally fine too! the friendships in this how have amazing potential too!) and i want to trust the staff to handle it all well no matter what and not force anything just bc it happened in the older voltron.

onto keith himself. we havent seen keith show any real interest in allura at all. heck he even wanted to leave her on a galra ship in s1? in s2 its obvious he is hurt by her comments but yeah of course who wouldnt be? when he was in the little pod thing with her in s2 he didnt act like he was interested in her that way and when she kinda sorta hugged him after apologizing he didnt really react like someone would if someone they were interested in p much hugged them? i mean yes there are maaany eps left (at least 4 seasons worth!) and i know shada mentioned slowburn and i think it was lauren and joaquim that mentioned romance not being the paladins’ priority bc duh war but theyve also said they can plant things in early eps and seasons to go back to and really the only two ships that you can really argue things have been planted for for ultimate slowburn are shallura and klance (have you seen how tender some moments between shiro and allura are??? and of course bonding moment).

allura also hasnt really shown any romantic interest in keith either and tbh i really think she just felt genuinely bad that she treated keith that way after finding out he was part galra? i dont really see the apology scene with the kinda hug as totally romantic but i definitely see why it worries ppl bc it does worry me too. (especially when coupled with the scene of them in the pod together in space but *big shrug* you know. i dont think that scene was romantic either except for when the pod exploded and they had to cling to each other??? but i digress). idk how other ppl interpret allura’s age and i dont wanna start discourse here but i personally feel like she is an adult in human age and keith is obviously a teenager and like yeah age gap problems but also??? no offense to keith but allura deserves someone more mature and just.. better for her?? and IF she gets paired up with someone i think given her interactions with shiro, he would make the most sense (plus she will probably play a very big role in finding him and saving him and im super excited for that!! allura is gonna kick some ass)

additionally ive already mentioned this but i mean the development and potential for both shallura and klance cant be ignored. this isnt a “shallura and/or klance might become canon post and here’s why” post but it is a post that points out two very popular ships in the fandom that make a lot more sense given everything. if you want a good klance meta, head on over here. i dont have any shallura metas on hand but if anyone knows of any link me!!

and also real quick i mean.. the crew on vld is capable of telling a good story and i really want to trust them to not write forced relationships if they make anything canon at all. i know a lot of ppl think s2 didnt rly compare to s1 but i think s2 was made to set us up for A LOT in the upcoming seasons. plus tyler labine has said that they do look at feedback they get from fans when considering things (for example they know how ppl have reacted to how hunk was treated and theyre going to work on showing him in a different and more heroic light rather than just the comedic relief food guy). i know this fandom has a bad rep when it comes to discourse about everything but i also know ive seen legit respectful constructive criticism from fans and thats what will be mostly heavily noted - NOT harassment!! dont harass the crew!! these people are working on a show you love and dont deserve the terrible harassment i know has gone on. being someone who lives for characters and character development more than plot, im really concerned about relationship dev in the upcoming seasons (platonic and romantic) and im sure a lot of ppl understand where im coming from but more than that i think its important to enjoy the show and the story, you know? i think the lore in this universe has got amazing potential and im excited to see it unfold along side these characters that i love!

feel free to message me or add more!

#voltron #voltron legendary defender #uhh......#klance #shallura #i guess yeah?#vld #i cant believe i sat down and typed this up but i had a convo on twitter #and wanted to get some things out lol #im so deep in voltron hell its not even funny i cant be saved #why am i so invested #i blame lance #bc i love him #and now i love everyone else too #so much #too much lmao #*#ok i need to do some schoolwork #feel free to message me or add to this

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lesbianyennefer · 8 years ago

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ok ive finished andromeda and so im gunna collate my final gathered thoughts below:

All in all its been a good game but for the first time in my life in not just a mass effect but a bioware game i dont LOVE it i cant even say i think its very good - ive even been edging on outright disinterest and boredom at various points throughout. bioware games for all their faults have always made me get fully into their stories get completely immersed in the world and in mass effects case in their characters too. but andromeda is the first time ever that i find myself saying if someone asked me how good it was i would say meh. if someone asked me how the latest installment in my favourite thing to exist on this planet was i would say meh. as someone who for whom the original trilogy is genuinely my favourite thing in existence there arent words for how much it upsets me. im not even like ‘i wanna play again!!!’ like i usually am because im usually still so immersed in the world. here are some thoughts and delving deeper into the things that stood out to me:

- the writing: its poor. there have been a few funny moments and lines and most of the main quest dialogue lines are good but compared to what we are used to from mass efefct it PALES. only one moment of real enjoyment stands out to me in the entire game and that was the movie night one - of the only moments in the game I got happy about like the original trilogy. the writing for dialogue not just with npcs but with companions is often clunky, nonsensical, boring and adds nothing to furthering knowledge/relationships. i honestly couldnt tell you a lot about many of them because the conversations didnt pertain to actually getting to know them. it says in the codex that they all consider me close friends but its never been mentioned that they even considered me one nor can i recall when the friendship actually got going or how we reached the ‘close’ part. similarily a lot of criticism from critics was about the base elements being rehashed from the original and its true. so much has just been copy pasted from the ot in a way that actually makes this version less interesting. the big ‘reveals’ in the story are also so badly done that when jaal mentioned the angara were made by the jaardun is it? i didnt have a wow moment like mass effect has given me in the past i was so confused by everything going on i was just like what? nobody seemed to make a big deal out if either considering an entire race just found out they were genetically engineered. the only real ‘wow’ moment i had in the game was finding out ellen ryder was still alive and jien garson was murdered and even then you cant tell anyone and its pretty much forgotten!! ryder knows that jien was murdered by possibly this benefactor who seems to have ulterior motives for all of them and she also knows the reapers invaded and as far as shes aware eradicated the entire milky way. maybe thats something that should be shared with leadership hmm? (as much as i hate tann)

- the plot: touching on the last the plot was, to me, nothing to write home about. ive always enjoyed that mass effect has a linear storyline that you get stuck into and follow through at a good pace. now i know they said andromeda was going to be more exploration based game - which i would normally like! - but not when the exploration has almost nothing to do with the main story and is so fucking much that you could play for 3 days 12 hours a day and not get to the next bit of the main storyline!! when you space it out too much the audience - or i - loses all connection with the sporadic main plot and what we are actually supposed to be doing so much so that by the time you go to play the next segment you dont even really know why youre there or whats going on. similarly the plot never made me go :O which the ot did a lot. an example ive mentioned before is that seeing the citadel always makes me go ahhh!!! the nexus by comparison is pretty boring. despite its flaws i love the storyline surrounding the reapers and it always gets me each time i play. sitting her writing this if you asked me to detail the main plot of andromeda i honestly couldnt. i cant remember what i did or in which order. theres no substance or linearity.

- the exploration: i again cant believe im saying this but swtor a mmo game from 2011 has more interesting open worlds with more MANAGEABLE and relevant side quests than andromeda. they might be beautiful but none of the worlds stood out to me - though i loved elaaden and the downed remenant ship star wars reference. i dont mind doing a few bland side quests but when there in the 50s and they lead you on goose chases across entire planets i begin to get agitated. i cant recall the amount of times i had to go back to planets like kadara for one 5 minute firefight and a couple of lines of dialogue. going through the galaxy map animations, the landing animations, the lift down to the slums then crossing the threshold to actually reach the map to THEN find your destination? yeah im pretty done by then.

- side quests: tying into the above side quests! bioware hinted theyd learned a lesson from dai and taken inspiration from the witcher 3 for their approach to side quests and they appear to have done neither. there are MORE side quests than there were in dai and i actually didnt mind dais but andromedas have become an issue for me - probably because there were so godamn many. they dont have any baring on the story and they are bland and uninteresting mostly fetch quests. i hate bringing the witcher into this because i dont like giving praise to cd projekt red but the truth is bioware could stand to ACTUALLY learn from the witcher 3. the side quests in that are small in number, long in plot and actually connected to the main story. they dont make you feel like youre straying from the plot, their content is deep and very good and they quite often have major consequences. see triss’ quests in novigrad. one thing i will say is they did seem to take a little of the last into andromeda. some choices have consequences ie saving the salarians over the krogan. that was pretty cool but still underdeveloped.

- the relationships: by the end of the story i can say I love all my squadmates despite the fact that i feel like i barely got the chance to know them (the only one il say i dont know at all well enough to love em is gil who has no content aside from the incredibly uncomfortable jill storyline and i wonder why hes the negelected one hmm?). i loved how they moved around and talked to each other but the amount of times i went round to see them and they had nothing to say was a LOT compared to the fact that in me3 everytime you went to see someone they had something (or multiple somethings) to say often without having to enter into a cutscene style animation just to see if they actually want to talk. in terms of romantic relationships ( i romanced peebee) i was disappointed by how little your romanced companion interjects on the story. at least in peebees case there was very little content and she seemed hardly bothered when my ryder got injected then killed herself and then died AGAIN to save them aside from a little snarky “hands off” comment when the archon grabbed her face. she mentioned a little bit back on the ship but compared to me3 and how liara/garrus/ash/kaidan would interject a lot on mission and have hints to their romance sprinkled throughout it felt like another forgotten thing. not one person on the ship mentioned me and peebee aside from a quick thing from sam when i went to see him in my cabin. also jazzed up sex scenes dont mean anything if the rest of the relationship is bland and overlooked. i prefer liara and sheps me3 scene 10x over peebees (my little gay heart still cries).

- the music: WHERE WAS THE MUSIC??!?! one of my favourite things about games FULLSTOP and the cherry on top of mass effect has always been the music. to this day i love the atmosphere that noveria creates and vigil makes me fucking cry. the suicide mission gets me pumped and leaving earth leaves a gaping hole in my chest. (diverting a bit even dai had fantastic music. in hushed whispers, the lost temple and thedas love theme are among my faves.) aside from the heleus galaxy map music and the ambient from that one destroyed planet i cant recall a single piece of music that stood out. i can remember about 3 tunes overall the map, the main menu and the one that plays a lot when you fight kett. there wasnt even any proper ambient music for the worlds!!!!! there arent words for how upset i am that theres no fucking mission themed bangers. im just really sad about this.

i think at the end of the day a big reason for me why i havent loved it is because as ive said before it doesnt feel like mass effect to me. to a pretty great extent i think the reason for this is the decision to move to the Andromeda galaxy. the absence of shep and the crew and the normandy is another huge factor but rather unavoidable in terms of continuing the games, but moving to andromeda has robbed the series of everything that made it mass effect. the mass relays, the citadel, the council, the alliance, earth, thessia, palaven they all made mass effect mass effect. Not to mention the quarians (one of my fave races ever), the drell, the volus, hanar, batarians, vorcha they were all a part of what mass effect IS. even the architectural style of the colonies, the nexus its all different and it doesnt have any connection to the ot and the world it created. andromeda feels like its own game completely unrelated to mass effect and one that when considered on its own has an incredibly shaky foundation and sporadic storytelling. at the end of the day it was fun to pass the time but as a huge mass effect fan i feel it was incredibly disappointing and to be quite honest i dont consider it a part of the mass effect i love.

#i guess this is kinda like a review lmao #but yeah ofc heavy me:a spoilers #becky speaks

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ee-pup · 8 years ago

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1) if someone wanted to really understand you, what would they read, watch, and listen to?That is a really tough question. How can one express their whole personality into a couple media things. I am gunna try with two of each. Read: Probably Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. I know they are cop outs and they are both kinda lame but that also describes me. I picked LOTR because it is imaginative, it is adventurous, it is magical, and it has depth of lore that is really amazing. I picked GoT because of more shallow reasons. It is a lot of intricate politics make up those books, there are a lot of fan theories surrounding them, and there is a large focus on characters and a whole bunch of characters that all have a specific part of a grand scheme.Watch: I chose lotr honestly in the books so i can open this section up. there are two that stand out to me. One is Avatar the Last Airbender. Everything about that show is amazing. The visuals are great, the dialog is funny and kinda lame, the plot is interesting, and the characters are some of the most complex and real characters that you will find in a modern show. The show is deep enough to touch on a lot of different and deep topics (especially adding korra) and light enough to just watch for a pleasant experience. That is one of my favorite shows and I try to emulate some of the lessons. The next would probably be princess mononoke for a lot of the same reasons. The plot is intricate enough that it isnt just a cut and dry movie. They make you really like both the town and the forest people and they make you understand the environmental themes in a way that many others fail to do and there is a gray area that the movie sits that makes you think about your views and the environment. Listen: Im gunna say probably Psyche! Life is Awesome! by Bomb the Music Industry. I dont know why but it kind of encapsulates my depressed but hopeful attitude. Really anything from bomb the music industry. Really anything from Jeff Rosenstock. Jeff is a gem in the music industry and i am really really really glad i started listening to him because I can relate to very very very few other people like i can to Jeff. His songs arent terribly well produced and he isnt the best singer but goddamn if he isnt the most real person in the whole music industry. Im so glad his new album is getting noticed and I really hope he is doing alright. Next song is the Battle of Hampton Roads by Titus Andronicus. There is a million other shows and songs and books that describe me but that is the best i can do right now.11) describe your ideal day.this one is pretty easy. My ideal day would be to get up early make a breakfast of toast and a lunch of a sandwich or something and get out of the house. I would have my camera and I would have my hiking shoes on and I would hike up into the forest on a really awesome mountain trail. While there i would see a lot of nature and get some really good animal photographs and then i would get to the top of a nice ridge that has an amazing view as far as the eye can see and i would just sit there without taking a picture. Then after a bit of sitting there i would try to take a picture then become frustrated it doesnt turn out like how it looks to me then just put the camera away and sit there some more. Maybe read or just think about things for a while then move on. After a long day of climbing rocks and trees and stuff and eating the lunch i would head back then head to one of my friends house and play a board game and have a wonderful home cooked dinner that i would help cook then we would watch a movie or show that i like and i would fall asleep on their couch but they dont care because they love and support me. Sounds pretty ideal to me.15) five most influential books over your lifetime.Im gunna do this one fast because it is way later than i meant it to go and im tired. 1. a science encyclopedia that i read as a child. I havent found the exact one in a long time but i read that book cover to cover so often. I was absolutely amazed by how everything in it worked. How the whole universe worked. I never want to lose that sense of wonder.2. Harry Potter Series. I read all these as a child and loved them so much i wrote to jk rowling sometimes as a little third grader. She always responded even though it usually took a few months and she gave me a picture of herself on a polaroid signed and i never figured out if it was her or an assistant or something but that changed my life3. The transall saga. This book really opened the door for me to get into fantasy and imaginative worlds. I had read hatchet before this book and this book i really vibed with the alone aspect and the fact that he found a beautiful life and it really made me think about what home means. Kinda same with hatchet and brians winter and other books by the author.4. The pigman. Idk why but this book opened up the whole realm of tragedy for me. I never really read sad books before this but this book definitely opened my eyes to that.5. Enders Shadow. Enders game was good but enders shadow actually got me interested in philosophy and religion. Just some of the talks about the backstory and some of the thoughts in this series and the other one are really a basis for phychology and philosophy about what it means to be human. I really like thinking about stuff like that for some reason. Thanks for asking! My writing is probably poor but i gotta sleep now

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askguyslikeus · 7 years ago

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((answering questions under the cut!))

i do actually plan on a little story! nothing too huge ahah but i do want this to be mostly run as an askblog! i might leave yall hints in the tags of important storyish posts but for the most part just sending asks should keep the ball rolling

eastern time zone! i have a weird work schedule and usually get out by 10 am - 1 pm or have weekdays off so my posts are kind off all over the place aha!

legit whatever strikes my fancy TBH haha sometimes i get asks that i love but i cant think of anything for them and i save them for some other time if something stikes my inspo. but usually if i can think of something that has more than one word answer and makes me smile i pick that one! sometimes i even come back to an ask i didnt wanna do cause i RANDOMLY THOUGHT OF A GOOD SCRIPT or somehting hahaha

ahhh i love exploring characters different from myself!! i mean i love writing these awkward boys who use silly lingo cause i too am super awkward and use silly lingo BUT i dont play overwatch or listen to the smiths or wanna major in music theory but i feel like michael would like all these things sooo,,, its been fun exploring new things because i want to know more about them for this blog specifically. i dont want to settle on something being their fav just cause i know about it i guess and im having fun with it

it also is nice to explore thingS ive dealt with myself through these boys in a healthy way using what ive learnt about myself and others. i deal with dependency issues and i always read michael as having them as well? but i didnt deal with them in a healthy manner for a while and ive learnt how to be better about it. and just ,,, being able to help these fictional boys in a way i struggled with is really refreshing and helps me a lot

aaa sorry i mostly just, enjoy exploring issues that i can grow in myself while also trying to get a grasp on these boys if that makes any sense?

at the moment no, i already reached out to a few people to ask them to do asks, and i do have a kinda story i wanna get to so,,, at the moment im all set on guest artists! i might do another round a little later tho!

i have not been intentionally but i have a lot of friends on the spectrum and am all for headcanons for michael and jeremy as well! i base a lot of my scripts and way of speaking and how they deal with situation on how ive seen friends of mine and myself react so!! i myself am not on the spectrum but i can see both jeremy and michael being autistic !! rock on anon

usually around an hour or two since i do multiple panels ahaha but if its one like the michael in the bathroom one or the childhood one i defs spent three or four hours on those bad boys,,,, i chose a very easy to do art style for this blog so i could work on my expressions and scripts and poses and get them done quick without worrying too much about how finished things look and hoo wee go past me cause ,,, i would not have as many posts as i do now slash i PROBs would have gave up 3 asks in hoooo boyyy

ye lol

like,,,, only a month ago woops i saw a cute shippy headcanon and i was like oh wait fuck these boys are cute. then i listened to the musical and was very blindsided by the entire plot omg but!! im glad im here!!

mostly because i wanted u to be able to tell who was talking! soemtimes my handwriting is small or my pic is big so jeremy ans michael will talk like this back to back

i ate a big corndog the other day HE SURE DID why do u sound proud im the one who ate the big corndog IM JUST A SUPPORTIVE BRO

and when they talk like that i needed a way to show who was speaking? aaaa i made theirs contrast the most since they are in the most asks together! as for everyone else i kinda just do whatever im feeling hahaha

i was gunna do something like a winky face or be like maybeee~ but imma just say ye man. i love boyf riends and im workin on a little plot to get these boyos together and happy!

ALSO I DIDNT GET AN ASK ABOUT IT BUt peopl have dmed me their headcanons or post ideas and im going to say it now in bold and caps

I DONT DO ANGST FOR THE SAKE OF ANGST if i end up posting sad things its because its what the boys are feelin in a story line but for the most part this is a happy happy blog. i have a lot of shit going on in my own life and i know some people use their ask blogs or art to draw out their venting and that is very good and healthy usually and i support you! but that isnt my way of coping and this blog will not have angst. dont prompt me for angst homies and stop trying to throw triggers out there to make me make a sad post. there are a lot of good blogs than can fill ur bmc angst needs!!

AND LASTLY CAUSE YE IMMA POST A BUNCH CAUSE THEY MADE ME SMILE :

I am SO OVERHWLEMED AND EMOTIONAL ABOUT ALL THE SUPPORT IVE GOTTEN ON THIS BLOG,,,, i went into this fandom in a really bad place and really lonely and really hating my art and idk it wasnt good but!!! making this blog is helping me grow a lot on my own as an artist but also everyone else enjoying it as much as i am ??? i die every timeee aaaaaa yall what th heckkkkk,,,,,

THANK U SO MUCH EVERYONE I APPRECIATE U ALL A LOT??? im glad ur enjoying my silly askblog idk im emotional im sorry aaa

hope i keep u guys entertained and u enjoy where i take these two!

there were some asks that were sent to me that i plan to answer soon in the form of asks so i didnt answer them but thank u for sending me questions guys!!

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lil-nct-scenarios-11 · 8 years ago

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Jeno- One Last Time

Group: NCT- Jeno

Theme: Valentine’s Day special

Type: One shot- angst (im sorry I had to)

Plot: Jeno and you meet up for your date but instead of saying “I love you’s”, you say things that breaks Jeno’s heart on a snowy Valentine’s Day.

(oh my gosh you guys, I tried so hard not to write angst so soon but I just could not help myself. We all know Valentine’s Day is either super great or like this scenario sugests, super not great, so I guess I’m just being realistic in a way, anywayyys I hope you enjoy) *evil laughter* let us bring forth heartbreak and all the tears sorry not sorry

You wake up on Valentine’s day to a heavy weight of guilt in your stomach as you stretch and look over to read the cute messages your boyfriend sent you.

Good morning beautiful, happy Valentine’s Day!

It’s been so long since we get to see each other in person.

Can’t wait to see you soon Y/N!

It looks like there’s a lot of snow out, so make sure to wear something warm.

‘Ugh, why does he have to be so sweet? I don’t know how I can do this to him. He’s only making this harder for me. How am I supposed to break up with him, and how am I supposed to do this on Valentine’s Day of all days? He’s been looking forward to this day for so long. I hope he didn’t plan anything special, I told him to keep it simple.’ you think to yourself.

With a sigh, you reply to his messages rather simply compared to him, then get out of your comfy bed to go get ready for your last date with Jeno. You had no idea what to wear, you didn’t want to deck up with the necklace Jeno gave you for Christmas or the ring he got you on your seven month anniversary. You think of the long relationship you two managed to maintain and a smile appeared on your face as you remember the last date you two went on. When the flashback of your ice skating date came to an end, your smile quickly went away as a lonely tear trickled down your cheek. You wipe it away slowly and tried to concentrate.

You never wanted to do this. You never wanted to shatter Jeno’s heart ever, and you never wanted to do it on the most romantic day of the year. But you need to end this relationship, you can’t keep up with his busy schedule. You very rarely get to see him in person and even managing to keep a normal conversation through text message is difficult because he’s got so much going on in his life. When you two used to go to the same school, you were very happy with him but now that you attend a different school at a different part of the city, you can’t even see him anymore. Things have just been really difficult for you to maintain and you thought that the best thing to do was to break up with him.

You blow some air on your thick mittens as you walk up to Jeno, who was waiting outside a café. His face instantly brightened up when he saw you so he ran up and engulfed you in a bear hug, lightly lifting you off the ground.

“Hey boo, how have you been? I missed you so much,” Jeno asks with a huge grin, holding your face with both hands.

“I’m good baby, I missed you too,” you say softly as you hold on to one of his wrists.

“Happy Valentine’s Day,” he exclaims happily, leaning in to peck your lips sweetly.

You pull away suddenly and look at him with sadness and shock mixed in your eyes.

“Babe, what’s wrong?” he asks worriedly, his eyes searching for an answer in your glossy eyes.

“Nothing,” you blurt a little too quickly. “It’s nothing Jeno, I guess we’ve haven’t seen each other for so long that I was just surprised haha. Let’s go inside, it’s cold out here,” you suggest, shivering slightly.

He puts his arm around you, pulling you closer, and walks into the warm, chatter-filled café. You two order hot chocolate with cute, pink treats, shaped like hearts. You two barely managed to find a booth in the crowded, couple-infested café but you got a great seat next to the window.

“So how’s school Y/N?” Jeno inquires, taking a sip of hot chocolate.

“It’s been pretty stressful not gunna lie. It’s kinda rough managing AP and honors classes with 2 clubs and being on the volleyball team. I don’t get home until 8 o’clock then I gotta get ready for 4 hours worth of homework and it’s just hard. But I feel like that’s nothing compared to what you gotta go through,” you sigh loudly.

“Haha, I don’t think so, sounds like you got it bad. For me, when I feel like giving up, I just remember that I got a really great, supportive girlfriend,” he smiles, planting a kiss on your hand.

You place a hand on Jeno’s cheek and you feel him lean against it. “Baby, I just worry about you, how do you manage to balance school with being an idol while still being with me?” you ask, thoroughly perplexed.

He just chuckles lightly, “As long as I got you, I know I’ll be fine.”

You put on a weak smile, trying to hide the pain you feel inside as he keeps bringing the fact that he looks at you as his source of motivation. Your heart aches knowing that you’re gunna break up with him today. You’re gunna tell him ‘I don’t want to be with you anymore. I won’t be there to help cheer you up as your girlfriend. I won’t be called your girlfriend anymore.’

You choke on your hot chocolate and start to cough violently.

“Babe, are you ok?” Jeno asks quickly, jolting towards you from behind his seat.

“yea, be... back,” you cough, getting up to go toward the bathroom.

You rush to the bathroom and clear your lungs out. You look at yourself in the dirty mirror and notice how puffy and red your eyes are. You splash some water on your face and pat it off with some paper towels. You steady your breathing and try to clear your mind, then after you compose yourself you walk out of the door and towards your booth.

“Hey, feeling better now?” Jeno asks concernedly.

“Yea, I’m good,” you mumble. “Do you wanna go for a walk?” you ask abruptly.

“Right now? Okay sure,” he says a little taken aback.

So you dispose your trash and walk back out into the cold, hand in hand. You two walk in comfortable silence as you lean on his arm, a little reluctantly at first, but you do this to take in his familiar scent and touch for the last time. You two come to a stop once you reach a snow-covered park.

Jeno breaks the silence by asking cautiously, “Babe, what’s wrong? Why are we here?”

You let go of his arm and stand holding both of his hands as you look down. “Jeno,” you begin quietly. “Jeno, I’m sorry. I don’t want to do this,” your voice cracks, as your hands lets go of his.

“Y/N, what’s wrong?” Jeno asks discouragedly, holding your hands again firmly, trying to look in your eyes.

“Jeno. I want to break up,” you say slowly.

Jeno’s eyes open up wide with shock and you add in quickly, “I’m sorry I didn’t want to do this today, not on Valentine’s Day. But I wanted to do this in person and not over text message like an asshole but I wasn’t sure when I’d get to see you again in person so I…”

“Stop. Y/N please, stop. Why? Was I not good enough? Did I not keep you happy? What did I do wrong, tell me! “ Jeno asks heartbreakingly, shaking your shoulders as tears fall down his face.

You cry into your hands as he pulls you into his chest, his head resting on top of yours. You sob into his sweater and you feel his tears hit the back of your sweater. “I’m sorry, Jeno. I’m sorry,” you sob.

He pulls you away from his chest slowly as you remove your hands from your face. “Tell me why. Before you leave, I just wanna know why Y/N,” Jeno says miserably.

“I couldn’t handle it anymore! All the stress from school was just getting too much for me, I just couldn’t take it anymore. I never get to see or even talk to you anymore and that’s not how a relationship is supposed to be! It’s not your fault, you were such a great boyfriend. You’re more than anything I’ve could have ever asked for and I’m glad you were my first love. I knew that when I fell in love with those eye-smiles and found out it belonged to an idol, that this wasn’t gunna be easy. But I knew it wasn’t a mistake, the last 18 months of my life with you were beautiful, and I’m so sorry I spoiled it like this. I sorry I had to end it on Valentine’s Day and ruin this holiday for us. I’m sorry I want to say I love you but I don’t want to hurt you even more. I’m sorry that I can’t be your girlfriend anymore, Jeno. But thank you for spending all that time with me and for being my first everything. Thank you Jeno,” you murmur, watching your relationship fall apart and shatter like broken glass.

Jeno just holds you again and tries to calm you down by shushing you and rocking you back and forth. “Shh Y/N, it’s ok. It’s ok. You’ll be fine. You will get over this one day and you’ll be fine. I will too but it’s gunna take time. Lots of time. Man, why is this so hard? Why does it hurt so bad? I don’t want to lose Y/N, I can’t help but to say I love you. I’m sorry I can’t help it. I really mean it too Y/N. I really do love you. I know its hard. It’s hard for me too but I… I always look forward to our dates. I don’t know what to do, I just don’t want to let you go. Can I just stay like this with you forever? I don’t wanna lose you. I don’t wanna let go,” Jeno breaks down, tears streaming down his face.

“Jeno, I have to go. Please let go of me,” you say quietly after a while. He shakes his head, “Jeno please don’t make this hard for me.”

“Please give me one last kiss before you leave,” he pleads hushedly.

“Oh Jeno. You know I can’t do that,” you say sadly.

“Why not?” Jeno asks.

“Its not just not right anymore,” you answer softly.

“Yea…I’m sorry,” he replies.

You give Jeno one final hug and whisper very quietly, “Good bye Jeno.”

“Good bye Y/N.”

You look up at Jeno one last time and restrain yourself from kissing him to make everything all alright but instead you painfully peel yourself away from Jeno, a boy you can no longer lovingly call your boyfriend, and turn to walk away. You hear the sound of your shoes crunching against the freshly fallen snow and then the further you walk away from Jeno, the louder his sobs sound in your ears.

“I’m sorry,” you whisper one last time.

~ Part Two

*I’m so sorry everyone who read this, I deadass wanted to stop writing and go cry in a corner. I got too attached to this bc he’s my bias and I guess I just love to break everybody’s hearts, well happy valentines day!

*also this gif is kinda hella perfect for this I’m sorry I’m just tryna make things a lil hearted but I don’t think its working

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