#this means I have to actually not be a hypocrite and voice my inspirations openly
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On one hand, I'm relieved to see that it isn't just me suffering in the engagement department whereas I used to get flooded with comments and the like every time I dropped something. It isn't the only reason why I've moved from fanfic work to original work, but it is part of it. The last round of engagement on the latest MM chapter was abysmal, and while I know it's not a reflection of my quality in writing, I kept beating myself up over the possibility that I took too long to update it and people gave up on it/forgot/fell out of love with my work because I as a creator was not performing good enough. It drove me into a bit of a depression for a while.
On the other hand, this is making me rethink my stance on never telling my favorite authors how much they have inspired me to take off with my writing career. This is going to get a little lengthy but I want to talk about it so bear with me here.
Closed circles know how much of an insane, unhinged fan I am of certain writers, yet I have never actually said a word to them. I think I left one comment on maybe two fics that went unanswered (which is fine. They're not active in the fandoms I'm in anymore and I'm just some guy out of probably hundreds all saying the same thing. They're not gonna reply to me) but apart from that, you wouldn't catch me dead actually admitting how much the works mean to me. But why?
I guess I was far too proud and too terrified of being let down if I exposed myself like that. Despite the fact that these authors were literal catalysts for borderline impossible feats I have done within the last year, WELL RECEIVED FEATS at that, I swore I'd never tell anyone how inspiring they were for me. (Unless a casual friendship has been established. I have had the tremendous honor to able to talk to some of my inspirations one on one but under incredibly lucky circumstances)
I had a scenario in my head that these were the cool kids, and if you ever got picked on at all for admiring anything, you know damn well you never tell the cool kids about your admiration. I was afraid that they'd take one look at the work that was inspired by theirs and laugh at it in their enclosed circles. I wasn't going to risk having my confidence crushed and lose the motivation to continue working on my projects by being a fan.
I know not all authors do this. Every time someone comes to me and tells me I've inspired them to be a better writer, I literally frame it in a collection of screenshots I have saved on a hard drive. Every. Single. Time. And I know anyone else would tell me that if the person I admire would actually be cruel enough to mock an up and coming writer, then they're not worth admiring. Which I agree with! But try telling that to sensitive little Kaeli that safeguards their interests with the fiery defensiveness of a feral bear on cocaine.
But then I see posts like this, and I put myself in their shoes. I don't know them. They could be a jackass but they could also be like me - someone who bases a lot of motivation for project completion based off of whether or not people even care to see it completed.
This is all a very long, round about away to say that who cares if the author you build a mini-shrine for in your brain thinks your cringe for liking their work? Odds are they probably need to hear that you liked it so much, it inspired you to do something with that feeling. We all need to hear it. They inspired you and now you're making something that will inspire someone else. To be a creator is to share that passion everywhere you go. There's nothing cringe about it.
A writer friend told me something that broke my heart a little bit today; they're going to quit publishing their fanfic.
My instant thought was that they had been trolled or attacked or that something terrible had happened in their life because this person is so passionate about their writing. It wasn't any of that. Engagement with their works has been going down, as it has for many of us. Comments are like gold dust a lot of the time, and just looking through the historical comment counts on old fics on ao3 demonstrates this trend very clearly. It was not simply the comments dropping off which caused them to decide to stop posting, however.
My friend came across a discord server for their fandom (I should point out here that their fandom interest and mine diverged a couple of years ago, we stay in touch but don't currently read each other's posts because I'm not into their fandom and they would rather gouge their eyes out with a wooden spoon than read anything Star Wars) and specifically to share fic in that fandom. They joined, because we all love a good fic rec, only to discover that their latest multichapter fic, which has almost no comments and very few kudos, is being hotly discussed in this server as one of the best stories ever. Not one of these people has bothered to say this to them on the fic. When they asked, none of participants could see the point in telling the author of the fic they apparently loved so much that they love it.
This discovery has absolutely destroyed my friend's love of sharing fic. They share because they love seeing other people's enjoyment, and fic writers do that through comments and kudos/reblogs/likes because we don't get paid. There is no literary critic writing a blog post/article about how amazing the story is for us to copy and keep/frame. There is no money from royalties. All we have are the words of the people reading our works.
Those people on that server could have taken five minutes of the time they spent gushing about how amazing my friend's story was to other people and used it to tell the one person guaranteed to want to hear that praise how much they loved it. They could have taken a moment to express their opinion to the person who spent hours upon hours plotting, writing, editing, and posting those chapters. Instead, they deprived my friend of thing that keeps them sharing their writing, and in the process have killed their love of it. My friend now feels used and unmotivated.
I won't be sharing a link to their fic, they said I could share their experience but not their identity. I know they plan to post one final chapter. I know they intend to express their hurt at being excluded from the praise for the thing they created, and I know they intend to announce that as a consequence they will not be posting for a long while, if at all.
So please, I beg you, don't hide your love of a story from the writer. It's just about the only thing we have.
#this means I have to actually not be a hypocrite and voice my inspirations openly#DO IT SCARED#and have to remind myself my work isn't cringe people like it for a reason#WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER#LETS SHARE THE LOVE FOLKS LETS BE BETTER
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Hi~ I just found your blog ad I love it! If you don't mind me asking, what are your thoughts on the role Kevan played in Cersei's walk of shame and his thoughts during it? I understand that he likely couldn't have helped her in any way, but his thoughts on her during it really rubbed me the wrong way =( Also how do you think Cersei will feel about his death? And finally, If Tywin could somehow see beyond the grave and witness the walk of shame, do you think his opinion on Kevan would change?
Hi! Thank you!
It seems that the idea of the walk of atonement came up during Kevan’s meeting with the High Sparrow, shortly after Cersei confessed some of her crimes:
“I have spoken with His High Holiness. He will not release you until you have atoned for your sins.”“I have confessed.”“Atoned, I said. Before the city. A walk—”“No.” She knew what her uncle was about to say, and she did not want to hear it. (Cersei I, ADWD)
It’s possible that Kevan really couldn’t do anything about it and wouldn’t dare to openly oppose the Faith, but later he talks about it as if he had an active role in it:
“Whatever Cersei may have done, she is still a daughter of the Rock, of mine own blood. I will not let her die a traitor’s death, but I have made sure to draw her fangs. All her guards have been dismissed and replaced with my own men. In place of her former ladies-in-waiting, she will henceforth be attended by a septa and three novices selected by the High Septon. She is to have no further voice in the governance of the realm, nor in Tommen’s education. I mean to return her to Casterly Rock after the trial and see that she remains there. Let that suffice.” The rest he left unsaid. Cersei was soiled goods now, her power at an end. Every baker’s boy and beggar in the city had seen her in her shame and every tart and tanner from Flea Bottom to Pisswater Bend had gazed upon her nakedness, their eager eyes crawling over her breasts and belly and woman’s parts. No queen could expect to rule again after that. In gold and silk and emeralds Cersei had been a queen, the next thing to a goddess; naked, she was only human, an aging woman with stretch marks on her belly and teats that had begun to sag… as the shrews in the crowds had been glad to point out to their husbands and lovers. Better to live shamed than die proud, Ser Kevan told himself. “My niece will make no further mischief,” he promised Mace Tyrell. (Epilogue, ADWD)
“I have made sure to draw her fangs”. Is it a coincidence that Cersei receives the same punishment that Tywin inflicted on Tytos’ mistress, which Kevan remembers vividly?
I have no reason to feel guilty, Ser Kevan told himself. Tywin would understand that, surely. It was his daughter who brought shame down on our name, not I. What I did I did for the good of House Lannister. It was not as if his brother had never done the same. In their father’s final years, after their mother’s passing, their sire had taken the comely daughter of a candlemaker as mistress. […] Tytos Lannister’s ear was between his lady’s legs. She had even taken to wearing their mother’s jewels. Until the day their lord father’s heart had burst in his chest as he was ascending a steep flight of steps to her bed, that is. All the self-seekers who had named themselves her friends and cultivated her favor had abandoned her quickly enough when Tywin had her stripped naked and paraded through Lannisport to the docks, like a common whore. Though no man laid a hand on her, that walk spelled the end of her power. Surely Tywin would never have dreamed that same fate awaited his own golden daughter. “It had to be,” Ser Kevan muttered over the last of his wine. His High Holiness had to be appeased. Tommen needed the Faith behind him in the battles to come. And Cersei… the golden child had grown into a vain, foolish, greedy woman. Left to rule, she would have ruined Tommen as she had Joffrey. (Epilogue, ADWD)
Why would Kevan feel guilty if it was ALL the High Sparrow’s doing? Also:
Cersei was soiled goods now, her power at an end.
that walk spelled the end of her power.
AT THE VERY LEAST, Kevan washed his hands clean. But, in my opinion, once the High Sparrow made it clear that he wasn’t going to release Cersei until she had publicly “atoned”, it was Kevan who came up with the idea of the WoS, drawing inspiration from Tywin’s punishment of Tytos’ mistress, firmly convinced that he was acting in the realm’s, in Tommen’s, and even in Cersei’s best interest. The fact that Cersei was currently locked in a cell like a rat was an outrageous insult to house Lannister and to the crown, and made the young king look weak, so he had to get her out of it some way. But at the same time Cersei needed to be put in her place, stripped of all her weapons and permanently removed from power. The WoS killed two birds with one stone. (for the record, Kevan isn’t wrong to believe that Cersei is a 100% terrible ruler and a danger to herself and to Tommen. He also had plenty of reasons to resent her on a personal level, for what she did to Lancel and for the titles she denied him out of spite. But fairly sympathetic motivations aside, if he really is behind the concept of the WoS, he chose a disgustingly misogynistic way to deal with her.)
If Tywin could somehow see beyond the grave and witness the walk of shame, do you think his opinion on Kevan would change?
as we see in the passage above, Kevan is tormented by the thought of What Would Tywin Think of him. He tells himself he had every reason to act the way he acted, and wouldn’t Tywin do the same anyway? Didn’t he use the exact same punishment before? Didn’t he also publicly punish and humiliate Tyrion? But the problem with Tywin is that he had such MASSIVE double standards. Women who behave like harlots need to be crushed, ten times so if they embarrass house Lannister. But not if they’re Lannisters themselves, because a Lannister is always > everything else. Except Tyrion. Tyrion needs to be punished every day of his life, BUT NOT BY OTHER PEOPLE, because we don’t want to look weak, GOD FORBID.
Kevan tries to convince himself that Tywin would approve, but Tywin followed no rational logic and was always a huge self serving hypocrite about this sort of things (not that Kevan seems to be any better, as far as hypocrisy goes). The main problem with Cersei’s WoS is that FROM THE OUTSIDE, actually from every perspective, it’s the Faith who inflicts that punishment. It looks like the High Sparrow brought house Lannister to its knees, and Tywin would #rage against that. Kevan thinks he took a page from his brother’s book, and the irony is HE TOTALLY DID, but unfortunately this means that he let Cersei, his own niece, the daughter Tywin worked so hard to make queen, be turned into a laughingstock in front of the population of King’s Landing. And who benefits from that? In the eyes of everyone that counts, not Tommen the boy king, not Kevan the lackluster Lannister, not Jaime who is somewhere in the Riverlands doing fuck knows what, but the Tyrells. I think Tywin’s rolling in his grave, to be honest.
how do you think Cersei will feel about his death?
Conflicted, perhaps oddly pleased (Kevan is her uncle, and yet he didn’t lift a finger for her) but mostly terrified, confused, under attack. More scared than ever, thus more dangerous and more determined to get her payback and destroy her enemies. Kevan’s death is another sign that someone is targeting the Lannisters, one by one, and Cersei’s getting increasingly paranoid and not without cause. Varys made sure to use a crossbow, so she will blame either Tyrion (she tried to blame on him what happened to Myrcella too, even though it made zero sense), or the Tyrells, but likely both. That’s what Varys is counting on.
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Ive been rping a long time and haven't gotten any better. I really like your blog so I was wondering if you had any tips
hi ! i’m not sure if you’re looking for tips on writing or on rping or both, so i’ll try to talk abt both writing & abt making your chara ( canon or oc ) more interesting.
so if your writing isn’t getting any better, it’s probably because you’re not practicing effectively. what i mean is, if you sit in a room and write 24/7 365 days a year i promise you you’ll never get any better, ever.
i know that sounds weird. but writing isn’t a motor skill or something that gets better with physically doing it; the only way to improve your writing is to improve your taste. by taste, i mean your ability to read a sentence & think “this sentence could be better if i did X” & the only, ONLY way to improve your taste is to read. expose yourself to other writers. read poetry ( & make sure you’re reading actual published poets, not tumblr “poetry” ) & try to imitate their style. imitation will force you think about the choices that go into writing which is what will ultimately improve your own writing. i promise this works. you’ll learn more from doing this than from any class or workshop, & i say that as a current creative writing student ( if you have a good prof they’ll make you do this anyway ). for example, my writing is directly influenced by poets like Jeannine Hall Gailey, Natalie Diaz, & Louise Glück, to name a few.
this is an excellent site for finding good poets & their work. a lot of literary journals are available online for free as well & usually have themes/aesthetics that will help you find what you like.
[ also, if you’re in a rut, PLEASE don’t ever force yourself to write. it will make you hate writing. read something instead, something you like; eventually you’ll find something that will inspire you to write again. ]
when it comes to characterization & character development, it’s all about subtly. you’ve probably heard of “show, don’t tell” which is imo bullshit; i prefer “tell me, but show me too.” one of the best ways to do this is utilizing something called the language well. every character has a language well, or place that they draw their imagery/metaphors/similes from.
for example, a character who is a soldier will have a vastly different language well than a character who’s an artist. for the soldier, you should try to use images that reflect that; comparing their voice to the grit of gunpowder, or their eyes to a scope. i do this a lot for evfra. the artist, then, would have a lot of art imagery; comparing their voice to the thickness of acrylic, or their eyes to wet clay. i recommend writing up a list of all the different things in your character’s language well. sort of like an aesthetics list. anything you think relates to your character, even abstract things. i have one for both evfra & akksul & they’re vastly different lists.
also, contrary to popular belief, your character should be hypocritical. a lot of the times in the fandom i see people complaining about the writers being “inconsistent” with characters, & while, yeah, you can take it too far ( again, it’s all about subtlety ), most of the time it’s what makes characters interesting & believable !
to use evfra as an example again: i have a hc that evfra openly doesn’t like politics. he sees himself as a soldier, not a diplomat, & will happily verbalize his aversion. in reality, though, he’s already deeply ingrained in politics & would not give up his voice within the angaran political sphere for anything; he’s pretty arrogant about the resistance having more control & influence than aya’s government, & he wants to keep it that way.
compare that to: evfra doesn’t like politics. the former is a lot more interesting, right ?
that’s all i’ve got ! i hope it helps. feel free to send me another message if i misinterpreted your question or if you have more.
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Personal, political rant
There will be those who will object to some or all of what I am about to say.
Fuck them. This is what I feel and I have no need nor desire to provide “a balanced counterpoint”.
I will not mention the name of the gutless, murdering, neo-fascist coward who slaughtered 50 of my countrymen, including a THREE YEAR OLD CHILD, last Friday. 50 innocent men, women and children peacefully attending prayer at their chosen place of worship.
I will not, ever, read or mention the hatred that he spewed forth via the web.
He will pay for his crimes, in this world AND the next. That is certain.
However, it is necessary to mention that there ARE far-right, white supremacists/neo-fascists in New ZEaland. Some of their members ARE violent. Racism DOES exist here. It is exhibited every day via micro-aggressions, expressed towards any who appear too different. To pretend otherwise is to be foolish.
Why does racism and fascism exist here? Because we are human. Because all humans learn to be wary of the ‘Other’. This is even codified within our respective languages, where the name for ourselves roughly translates as “The People”, while our names for others corresponds with “Them”. This tendency crosses all ethnic and cultural boundaries.
This does not mean that these attitudes should be tolerated at any time, or in any way. Especially in nations that were founded or came into existance due to the migration of “Others” into the lands of those who preceded us. In fact, thses attitudes should be actively opposed, lest the take root and prosper.
Which brings me to the main point of this rant.
While the aforementioned coward pulled the trigger on Friday, those who encouraged, educated, radicalised and groomed him should not be allowed to escape the consequences of their actions. We all know who they are. There is no need or, for that matter, desire for me to mention their names. After all, that is exactly what the Christchurch coward and those who helped radicalise him want.
They are the ones who openly preach hatred against “The Other”, be it racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-immigrant, anti-semetic, insert-hate-of-choice-here. They are the ones who incite hatred and hide behind freedom-of-speech, claiming it is their right to say such things in order to begin “a dialogue or debate” on the issue. They are the ones who then pretend to act horrified and claim personal innocence when others commit violent acts in their name.
Hypocritically, they demand the right, and protections thereof, of freedom-of-speech, while seeking to deny the free speech rights of those who seek to oppose them. Even going so far to proclaim their opponents to be the true enemies of democracy.
As I said earlier, we know who they are and I will not name them... personally, that is.
They are the far-right pundits and hosts of radio, television and the internet, who poison the airwaves and the web with their toxicity. I include the so-called mild ones who adopt a ‘reasonable’ tone when pedalling hatred.
They are the politicians, from across the political spectrum, who use race, religion, hatred and fear in an attempt to win elections, regardless of the costs to their society and those of their neighbours.
They are the members of society who tell hate-based ‘jokes/stories’ and get upset when called out, claiming ‘its just a joke. Lighten up”. They are the ones who tell migrants to ‘go home’, when they ARE home.
New Zealand has its share all of these. As does every nation and society on Earth.
Now for the controversial part:
Freedom-of-speech DOES NOT EQUAL freedom from the consequences of that speech.
Those who pedal hatred and lies need to be reminded of that.
The government of a democracy cannot, and should not, prevent them from speaking.
BUT, neither is that government, unless its laws specifically state otherwise, required to provid a venue/platform for their bile, other than a street corner or public park.
Nor is a violation of their rights if a PRIVATE orgnisation refuses to provide such a platform or venue.
Conversly, protestors should not be banned or otherwise prevented from attending and voicing their opposition. After all, THAT is their right to free speech. If the pundits of hatred don’t like it:
Well, suck it up buttercup (snowflake) and take a concrete pill.
Now for the REALLY controversial part:
Speaking personally, if one of these purveyors of hate, domestic or foreign, inspires a cowardly, murdering bastard, such as the one active in Christchurch on Friday, and is cited by said murdering bastard as an influence, I would like to see that person charged as well. Call it inciting hatred and/or violence, hate speech, accessory to what ever crime was commited. Take your pick.
DO NOT let them off the hook for their hate-filled rhetoric.
PROSECUTE them. Make them actually face the consequence of THEIR actions.
FORCE them to face the victims that resulted for their personal and political viewpoints.
ENFORCE any resulting conviction.
REMIND them that there ARE consequences and that they are no longer immune.
Maybe then, just maybe, they will think twice before spewing forth hatred.
Maybe then, they will think twice about demonising innocents and blaming their neighbours for providing ‘a backdoor’ into their nation, purely for politcal capital and/or monetary profit.
Maybe then, they will be forced to acknowledge that those they demonise ARE US!
Rant ends.
#nz#new zealand politics#politics of hate#christchurch shootings#rage#counter-terrorism#anti-hate#anti-fascist#kia kaha#kia kaha christchurch#kia kaha aotearoa
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6 Megan Mullally
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After telling The Advocate in 1999 that she was bisexual, Mullally clarified her statements in an interview with Queerty, telling the blog: "I said that I thought that everybody is innately bisexual. I think there are different levels of awareness attached to that, so I may believe that everybody is innately bisexual, but somebody who is very homophobic may not see that quality in themselves in any way, shape or form. That’s on a very philosophical or even metaphysical level, you know what I mean? It’s not something that I think people are ready for yet. I think if you ask the average guy on the street if he was innately bisexual, he’d be like, ‘What the fuck are you talking about?’ and then he’d punch you in the face. So, we’re not quite there."
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Evan Rachel Wood came out on Twitter in 2012: “I myself am bisexual and have always ‘joked’ about Miley giving me gay vibes. Not a bad thing! Just an observation.”
16 Sapphire
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The author of Push, the book that inspired the critically acclaimed film "Precious," describes herself as bisexual.
17 Drew Barrymore
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19 Vanessa Carlton
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20 Fergie
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The Black Eyed Peas front woman confirmed speculation surrounding her sexual identity in 2009 through an interview with The Advocate: "Q: After you discussed past sexual experiences with women in an interview with 'The Sun' in May, headlines everywhere read, 'Fergie Admits She’s Bisexual!' A: The funny thing is that I was very open and honest about that from the very beginning, and everyone was acting like it was some new trend. Go back four or five years, people, and you’ll see the same answer.
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21 Pete Townshend
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22 Tila Tequila
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Tila Tequila is not one to shy away from anything. The former Myspace celebrity did several reality shows centered around identifying as bisexual, beginning with "A Shot At Love With Tila Tequila." She was also the girlfriend of Casey Johnson, the Johnson & Johnson heiress, who passed away in 2010.
23 Amber Rose
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Amber Rose has long been perceived to be openly bisexual without actually addressing the way she identifies. In an interview with Complex magazine, the model sought to clarify the rumors: "They label me a bisexual freak stripper that fucks Kanye on a daily basis. To answer that: I’m extremely open with my sexuality. I can be in love with a woman, I can be in love with a man. I’m not into bestiality, but as far as humans go, I definitely find beauty in everybody, whether they’re heavy-set, super-skinny, if they’re white, black, Indian, Asian, Spanish. I can see beauty in anybody. I’m not into threesomes or orgies and shit like that. If I see a women and I think she’s beautiful and I like her, and she likes me back we can definitely try to be in a relationship together."
24 Cynthia Nixon
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Currently married to wife Christine Marinoni, Nixon confirmed in a January 2012 interview with The Daily Beast that she is bisexual. The "Sex And The City" star stated, "I don’t pull out the 'bisexual' word because nobody likes the bisexuals. Everybody likes to dump on the bisexuals... We get no respect."
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25 Jillian Michaels
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The first lady to ever come out in "Lady's Home Journal" as bisexual, "Biggest Loser" coach and personal trainer Jillian Michaels told the magazine in 2010: “Let’s just say I believe in healthy love. If I fall in love with a woman, that’s awesome. If I fall in love with a man, that’s awesome. As long as you fall in love… it’s like organic food. I only eat healthy food, and I only want healthy love!”
26 Kim Zolciak
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Former "Real Housewives Of Atlanta" star Kim Zolciak was in public relationships with both the mysterious "Big Poppa" and DJ Tracy Young before marrying Kroy Biermann. In a 2010 interview with Life & Style, interviewers posed the following question for the reality queen: "Q: Do you feel you're giving a voice to other bisexual parents? A: I'm among the millions of parents who have been in a gay or lesbian relationship. It hasn't been an easy road lately, but I feel there are no mistakes in my life. Everything happens for a reason. To have the opportunity to speak for myself and to have people understand what I'm going through is really special. I myself was confused and scared at first. Being able to speak from my heart and get this all out, it's a huge relief for me."
27 Lady Gaga
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Lady Gaga has been open for quite some time about her bisexuality, initially coming out in a 2010 interview with Barbara Walters.
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28 'Mama June' Shannon
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The star of "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" revealed that she's bisexual in an "Inside Edition" interview in April 2015. Her daughter "Pumpkin" Lauryn Thompson also came out as bi at the same time.
Correction: An earlier version stated Megan Mullally spoke with The Advocate in 2009. The interview took place in 1999. This has been corrected.
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