#this makes me feel similarly to when someone says something like ''i cant be bisexual bc im not just attracted to men and women''

[skin-slave]

"Pro-ship" does not mean you love every ship!!! It doesn't mean you support everything that a shipper does or says. It doesn't mean you think shipping is all that important. It doesn't even mean that you participate in shipping at all.

It means you aren't opposed to the existence of shipping. You think shippers aren't harming anyone thru the act of shipping. You think the right to ship should be protected. You think the way to deal with ships you don't like is to block tags/blogs, avoid fics, etc.

"Anti-anti" does not mean you like all of the darkfic and related themes! It doesn't mean you like any of them at all. It doesn't mean you don't have squicks or triggers. It doesn't mean that you think all of that is good for everyone, all the time.

It means you believe that those fictional depictions are not the same as those things happening in real life. You know that ppl can consume that kind of art for a lot of reasons - which are nobody's business - without acting them out. You think that the defense of art, including that kind of art, is important and necessary. You think the best way to deal with themes you don't like is to block tags/blogs, avoid fics, etc.

Labels are optional. You get to pick what you call yourself. It just frustrates me to see, "I can't be pro-ship bc I don't like this ship." Or, "I could never be an anti-anti bc I don't like this theme." Those labels and communities are very much accessible to you!! If you think you don't belong for those reasons, you're mistaken!! Very few of us like all the things, and that's ok!! You are welcome here!! 💚

[ectonurites]

for the character headcannons ask game, jason and cass?

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT im putting this one under a cut because it got SUPER long bc i cant shut up ever

lets start w jason

A (realistic headcanon): 

ok using the ‘realistic’ category here loosely but GOD i love the idea of Damian & Jason having interacted while Jason was staying with the League before getting dunked in the Lazarus Pit. like. this obviously would need to be set more in preboot and following the Lost Days & Batman Annual 25 version of Jason’s resurrection, but god the idea of it just makes me scream in a good way. Like... these are things Jason likely doesn’t remember very clearly once he’s brought back to life more fully by the pit because he was uh pretty catatonic, but Damian being a little kid and knowing about the boy that his mother keeps around the base, that she’s trying to help bring back to health. Damian not even knowing that’s his big brother, just that he’s a presence that shares his mother’s attention. Jason again being unresponsive but like, ok god you know that part of lost days where Talia shows the others observing him that he only fights back at those he perceives as genuine threats trying to hurt him, 

Because Jason can perceive that she’s safe, she’s not actually trying to hurt him, he trusts her because she saved him? thinking about lil child Damian who is ya know already being trained in fighting stuff and like the idea of him trying to provoke Jason just to see what happens but Jason not fighting back because on some level be it his connection to Talia or even little baby Damian visually reminding him of Bruce, he knows that Damian is safe too 🥺 

and then when Jason and Damian meet again in Gotham as Red Hood & Robin respectively, Jason not really remembering because there was so much going on back then for him, but Damian realizing that oh... that was Him

B (hilarious): 

alright so if we are looking at comics currently, in modern stuff jason is what, like 22? hes old enough to drink in the US but still definitely early 20s so around my around my age, thats what im using as a basis here. if we adjust timeline and still consider his death having happened when he was 15, that puts it around 2013. and then coming back to like interacting with people about three years later if we still kinda base things off of the preboot timeframe (since we never got a super solid retelling of the timeline of death -> resurrection -> training -> tries to get revenge aside from knowing he went to the all-caste instead of the lost days version of the story) making him reenter the regular world and stuff around age 18 in 2016. meaning a solid three years of pop culture that he was entirely missing, and like im sorry but he really doesn’t strike me as the type to bother looking into what he missed, he’s kinda busy focusing on other stuff. lets take a quick look at some major things from those years. 2013 gave us ‘what does the fox say’ and ‘the harlem shake’ . 2014 had that time U2 just put a fuckin album on everyone’s phones, The Fault In Our Stars movie came out. 2015 introduced the phrase ‘Netflix and Chill’ and the whole blue & black vs gold & white dress debate happened. imagine any of the other batkids (or even arguably roy during rhato stuff) bringing these things up and jason’s ensuing confusion. thank you for your time

C (heart-crushing): 

so. there are two specific instances from rebirth era Jason i want to bring up here and much like a lot of these it’s less a headcanon and more of an inference based on observations, but i wanna take a sec to discuss Jason’s relationship with other people’s death. early in rebirth, Tim ‘dies’ from that whole thing in detective comics. he didn’t actually die, we as readers know, but in-universe they all very much so thought he was dead. frustratingly a lot of the batfam wasn’t really shown mourning him aside from in the Detective Comics Rebirth title itself (which just. when a major character dies even if its temporary- that should have a ripple effect) BUT an exception to that is in RHATO 2016, where we get this offhanded comment in Jason’s internal monologuing

similarly later when Roy, who like, had an incredibly close relationship w Jason that had just gotten mended before Heroes in Crisis, gets fuckin murdered in that whole thing... Jason doesn’t go to his funeral either. He leaves a dramatic voice mail and then visits the grave on his own later, choosing to instead keep working on the mission they’d started rather than going and taking the time to mourn properly.

Jason’s relationship with death is incredibly complicated, obviously. He has died, he has come back, and he now is willing to cross the line most other bats won’t and will kill people when he deems it necessary. I think thats something important though- he doesn’t just like... go around killing for fun (usually, some writers preboot made him a little murder happy but even then usually this still was vaguely followed) he kills people he thinks deserved it. Like, even looking back at the mess of Morrison’s Jason during Batman & Robin 2009, Jason was still trying to bring a sense of justice with who he was killing (”punishment that fits the crime”), it wasn’t killing for the sake of killing. He sees things in this kind of almost black and white ‘people who deserve it’ and ‘people who don’t’ way, and he has no problem dealing with death when it’s with the people he thinks deserve it. 

but when someone who doesn’t in his mind ‘deserve it’ gets killed? i think he just goes into total avoidance mode. throws himself into other things he’s doing, tries not to dwell on it too much no matter how much he still thinks about it (this is especially evident in him consistently telling people “i’m fine!” after what happened to Roy, despite bringing Roy up literally like every few issues for a WHILE after he died and very clearly still struggling with it, Artemis is the only one who gets through to him on it a little bit) 

but yeah, I just think that from Jason’s relatively unique situation of having been murdered, he knows what it’s like and he is perfectly fine wishing that on people he thinks are bad and deserve it, but it crushes him to imagine the people he loves and cares about having to experience something as painful as what he went through. not to mention the whole “I came back, why do I get a second chance at all this when they, who are a much better person than I am, probably won’t” mindset we get some implications of him having 

D (canon is a coward and won’t) 

hello DC i am once again insisting a batfam member is bisexual

CASS TIME

A (realistic headcanon): 

ok so we know cass likes ballet. thats canon. however i think we also should in general explore cass experiencing other types of dance/performance as well, be it herself as a performer or even just watching. like... god imagine her & like my brain just automatically for group activities puts her with tim steph and duke but also for this in particular I feel would be a Jason embraced activity, but like them going to see a broadway show or some other professional theatre or something, and her just being enthralled by the reading of body language of the performers! like again by any point in current stuff cass does have like, the ability to speak fine (reading still hard tho) but even so I think like. okay im a theatre kid if that’s not obvious from the Everything About Me but one thing I always do after seeing a show is ya know spend dinner afterwards discussing it with whoever i saw it with.

I just think that like, bringing those people i just mentioned to the table to discuss seeing a show after would be so FASCINATING because cass would bring this whole perspective of critiquing their acting on a whole different level- not based on how well they delivered lines out loud, but by what their body language was saying as they moved on stage. like im very amused by the idea of cass getting a totally different picture in her mind about what a character’s motivations were because she was paying way more attention to what their physicality was saying vs the words that were written and how they were delivered. i think the debates her and the others would have would be EPIC there. jason defending the text as it was written adamantly and cass being like ‘ok yeah sure but thats not what they did’

B (hilarious): 

cass having no concept of money because why would she bother? is SO funny to me. like it’s not that she couldn’t be reasonable if she wanted to, but like, she knows that the Waynes are well off so it’s not something she actually needs to be concerned about, so she just goes hog wild. takes steph out to fancy dinners and makes steph order for them since cass ya know doesn’t really read the menus, and steph’s like ‘jesus christ this costs-” “don’t worry about it” “but cass-” and she just holds up one of bruce’s credit cards and steph’s still like “but you don’t even know the range-” “it is fine”

bruce does not have the heart to tell her to stop

C (heart-crushing): 

i mean this is pretty much canon but especially now after death metal where she’s remembering, not just being told by a guy using weird alternate timeline technology, that she used to be an adopted member of the Wayne family... like that hurts so bad. To look at these people who have ya know been kind to her, Bruce has still been a father-like figure to her (i mean literally from the moment they met in New 52 canon during the flashback in Batman & Robin Eternal, where he’s telling her that she’s not a monster just because of what people forced her to do.... that she’s a hero... that hug.... dad behavior), and they do to some extent treat her as family... But to then really know, to feel and remember that she was actually adopted! She was a part of their family. To look at how she’s been calling herself Orphan while working with them this whole time... that’s so heartbreaking! I have cried about this idea so much! I want so badly a conversation between her and Bruce now where he offers to officially adopt her again, I need it so bad and if it doesn’t happen at some point in the next year or two I will be so distraught.

D (canon is a coward and won’t) 

i want an in-depth exploration of cass’ relationship to her own gender. being raised without language and you know with so much of her life being independent (remember: CASS RAN AWAY AROUND THE WORLD WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING ANY SPOKEN LANGUAGE) and outside of an organized society impressing too much of gender expectations on her, i feel like the way she experiences it would be very unique! like sure she’s so far been fine with being assigned ‘girl’ (ya know that comes with batgirl, and how people just automatically treated her based on how she looks) but in terms of gender expression and like her actual relationship with ‘traditional femininity’ etc like... because of how she was raised I just think she’d have a really different perspective on it that could be cool to explore, and I think she’d fall outside of the binary after she really thinks about how she identifies.

tldr on that: she/they nb cass is what i’m getting at here

[groundramon]

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SHIT I FORGOT TO RESPOND TO THIS

but here’s today’s hot take: majority group people can have opinions on things that they’re the majority/oppressors of, BUT their opinions should not be the basis of legal or moral obligation.

For example, I dislike mint.  Does that mean I think everyone should dislike mint?  While I wish they would so I wouldn’t have to smell it because everyone thinks its a good smell and doesn’t consider that others cant stand it, no, I don’t think everyone should dislike mint.  Do I think mint should be illegal?  No, of course not.  I wish others were more considerate of being around me irl due to my repulsion to the smell of mint, but otherwise, my dislike of mint is purely of opinion and I don’t have any right to say someone is a bad person for disliking mint.

Cis people can have opinions on trans issues, truscum discourse, ect.  HOWEVER, the second they make a truscum-oriented blog, make fun of tucutes, use the wrong pronouns for someone because they dont think they’re “trans enough”, ect, they have stepped over the line.  This includes cis lgbt people btw, not just cishets.  You can think that transtrending is a real thing, but you’re not allowed to tell people who ID as trans whether or not you think they’re trans, directly or indirectly.  You may have opinions and observations, but otherwise, this is OUR debate, not yours.  Your job is to support ALL trans people in order to be a good ally.  If you aren’t willing to do that, don’t call yourself an ally.  It’s that simple.

Similarly, I (as a white person) can have opinions and observations on racial issues, racial microaggressions, ect.  However, it isn’t my place to say that my observations are inherently true and that my opinion should be considered alongside the opinions of POC.  I can reinforce what other POC say, but if some POC say something is wrong and others say something is fine, I should generally take to heart the idea that it’s wrong just to be safe.

Compassion is really key in these situations, I feel like?  It’s ALWAYS better to try and avoid offending people to the best of your abilities.  I get where that “you’ll offend everyone these days” mentality comes from but for fuck’s sake, shouldn’t you at least make an ATTEMPT to offend as few people as possible?

Compassion is especially key in issues that you’re a minority group in but not the minority group being affected (IE, antiblackness as a non-black person of color, homophobia as a non-sga aspec person, ect) or in discussions that affect multiple groups (IE ace discourse).  But ultimately speaking, there are times when you’ll help others by keeping your opinions to yourself.  Again, it’s an issue of compassion, not of inherent worth - but if you give your opinion on these important issues when it doesn’t affect you and hurts others, well that’s pretty mean, and I think being pretty mean is pretty worthless.

Antiblackness amongst people of color is none of my concern.  I only need to support black people and all people of color.

I need to be careful what I say on homophobia because, as an acearo trans person, I know less about it than someone who has personally experienced it.  Because of the intertwining of transphobia and homophobia I do know more than I do about racism, but I try to be open to new arguments since I don’t truly know as well as others.

(Tbh this was gonna start as a semi-SU critical thing, but it was more of a “I cant defend SU from any allegations of racism because its just not my place”, but it turned into this instead but I still stand by that.  I WILL say tho that nothing the show has ever done is transphobic and I’m HIGHLY skeptic of the homophobia card since Rebecca is literally bisexual and nonbinary.  But my point is I can’t speak on racism, and I feel like neither can Rebecca since she’s not a person of color to my knowledge, so I hope if there’s anything wrong with the characters of color in SU, Rebecca can better round them out in the future.)