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understandingbimbos · 1 year

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Regarding transformation preferences:

Well the issue is how much it changes the character. People have been calling certain type of women bimbos since well before a lot of modern surgical stuff was around or in style. Maybe you ideal bimbo has a late 80's to mid 90s look? Personally I don't mind some IQ loss, but if your character isn't starting out super smart just some personality changes can work too. An extremely perky nympho qualifies as a bimbo to me.

This is a very subjective fetish overall

/aco/, 2021. Tips on writing a good bimbo:

Depends on what specific bimbo type you're going for, but the most common mistake is to write them as a literal retard or a child in an adult's body. Sure, a bimbo might be dense or childish, but it's their all-consuming interest in looking good, getting the cutest accessories, the hottest make-up and using all that to look their best to go have fun with friends or lovers — that is the basis of the character.

The "stupidity" is often simply the fact that important or "intelligent" thoughts or knowledge is being superseded in their mind by the thoughts and knowledge on the aforementioned topics and desire to have fun. It's those hedonistic interests that also make them disinterested in mental cultivation (hence denseness) and careers, and make them dependent on sugar daddies (hence childishness).

But the base core values of a bimbo are:

Looking good according to their bimboish cute and voluptuous sense of style, which might not even stop a bimbo from being a gym bunny or a goth, just depends on what they find cute or good-looking

Having fun: usually by partying, shopping, socializing (including sex), but even stuff like science can be placed here if the bimbo is naturally smart and thinks it's fun)

Being outgoing: they want their good looks to be enjoyed by others and are stereotypically outgoing, preferring to have fun with others

Being naive: is actually a side-effect of the previous three, but is so set, that I decided to add it; the fact that they are pretty, happy and outgoing, makes other people treat them nice, which makes her just assume that everyone has good intentions. That doesn't stop some bimbos from having an almost supernatural women's intuition.

Finally: alignment. Bimbos gravitate toward chaotic good, but are easily shaped by their environment: a bimbo that hangs out with mean girls, might easily assume that bullying is just good fun and doesn't hurt anyone; a bimbo that is spoiled by her sugar daddy can easily become a brat.

/aco/, 2021.

On identity death and bimbofying established characters:

The most salient traits of the personality are "bimbofied" as well as the body, and made to accommodate the new owner. When these traits are pleasant or neutral, they become slutty, and when they are unkind, they either become slutty as well or remain expressed but unable to prevent the body from acting sluttily, thus making the sluttiness even hotter by trying fruitlessly to react against it.

Identity death is for people who are too lazy to work the little details of the old life into the bimbo's new life.

Figure out what kind of sex the character would enjoy most, and make that her goal.

Figure out what the character would do to themselves to get to that goal.

Preserve/Add a few details of the character that don't get in the way of that goal.

/aco/, 2021.

"What are your favorite tropes to see in bimbo art?"

Maybe this is cheating, but I like to see hints of bimbofication. Suppressed twinges of regret or disappointment or something that this is how her life turned out. That or a gaping abyss in the soul threatening to pull other girls in. In any case - keep it visually restrained, and keep the thematic eyes on the prize. This is a fetish for bimbos, not for tits and ass large enough to eat a city. Lip enhancement is nice, but it shouldn't leave the girl looking like fucking Birdo. Don't confuse the signified and the signifier; it's all so much garish clown makeup, sure, but it still can't do that much to hide that it's the same girl underneath it deep down, even as her soul is being eroded by her facilitated interactions with the world around her. The most extreme physical transformation that makes sense here is things like breast implants, and even there, less is more - the size change doesn't need to be that extreme to convey that it happened.

/aco/, 2023.

"What element of this fetish is more important to you?"

For me it's wholly the physicality of the bimbo as an objectified, 'fake' hyperbole of the natural woman. The idea that a woman would willingly undergo such a transformation, such that no aspect of her, at no time, can ever be conceived as 'non-sexual' again is super hot to me. Her very existence is sexual at all times, she cannot hide it due to how absurd and eye-grabbing her proportions and aesthetic are - she has deliberately undergone a transformation to fully become a sexual object for mens enjoyment.

The whole "IQ loss" or "dumb girly submissive" aspect is mostly immaterial for me. For WOMEN I've met who share this fetish, though, this seems to be the main compelling component. Which is fine, so long as she gets the fake tits and slutty outfits to go along with it.

/aco/, 2023.

On the difference between bimbos and gyarus:

Visual trappings are different, and gyarus are more bitchy/aggressive than dumb and slutty.

This, gyarus can even pass as tomboys or delinquents but bimbos are like barbies, human sex dolls.

Gyarus are culturally bound to prostitution as well, as long as we're splitting categorical hairs. It's not just fashion/sex

/v/, 2023.

"Who the fuck gets a hard-on at the thought of fucking an imbecile?"

I do, kinda. I mean, not as in "Me so horny we want fuck" kind of retarded way but in the "Like, oh mah gawd, Kim Kardashians ass is, like, totally hawt? I'm gonna ask my doctor to, like, give me one just like it, fer sure" kind of way. You know, the totally vapid and superficial kind.

Hobbies and speech patterns are not indicative of a person's intelligence. I know people with a Ph.D. and Master's with similarly stupid hobbies. I also know quite smart and capable people who own their own businesses who talk in very similar way, it's more about where a person grew up, quality of their education and who their friends are than about intelligence.

Sure, but I think a bimbos interests would be kinda limited to shallow, superficial stuff. You know, stupid pop music, Reality TV, fashion, Make-Up and, of course, sex… and they might actually have fairly extensive knowledge about these things but not much beyond that. Basically, a bimbo is someone who might very well be able to give you a perfect recap of every episode of Big Brother but would have trouble solving a simple math equation.

/co/, 2016.

"What tickles your pumpkin?"

It seems to be a bit unusual but I like Bimbos being dominant and sexually aggressive. There's just something very appealing to me about the idea of being dominated or forced to serve a girl who's much dumber than me. Mind you, that doesn't mean that I want her to be a bossy bitch, she should still be nice but also kinda spoiled and selfish. Basically, she's still addicted to cock but more for her own pleasure than for that of her partner.

I'm also into the idea of bimbos humiliating normal, smart women.

/aco/, 2016.

On PegasusArt (degradation, maledom, misogyny, and self-inserts):

The moment you put your obvious cringey self-insert and try to link the fiction back to yourself (Instead of just dabbling in fictional characters), you take a step back from the fantasy aspect and make the latter power fantasies weird and gross seeming. That applies to any intended effect in fiction.

Bad bimbofication content is more about how great it is that the guys are getting laid, rather than the hot slutty extremely-fake women. I think sucking off guys is great, but I think most fans of bimbos would consider this a 'gay' interest. I'm much more interested in the blonde slut with the giant silicone filled tits.

imo the bad bimbofication is the shit where its obvious that the pic is more about the girl being degraded and made nonthreatening as opposed to being pumped full of silicon and covered in makeup

It's really just storytelling 101. His content is bad because it isn't actually about the bimbos, it's about his idiotic self-insertion, the bimbos are essentially completely irrelevant and only serve as props so his manlet can get his rocks off by being a colossal piece of shit. Good bimbo content is always going to put the bimbo first and forefront, so he fails right at the starting line.

I like when the girl is degraded and made nonthreatening. I especially like those works where the girl doesn't even know she's being mocked. That being said I still think Pegasus is trash. He's such a turbo autist with no self awareness. It's seriously cringeworthy to see Mind Control Manlet insult the defeated women. I think the key is that women NEVER look like they're enjoying it. It's just an angry faggot raping a sad woman. I like my bimbofication darkly comedic.

/aco/, 2013.

On dollification, drones, and degree of stupidity:

Bimbofication generally allows enough thought for the bimbo to be able to talk, though generally not enough for any real self-awareness. A complete loss of thought is more a facet of dollification (though I tend to prefer my dollification with the person being completely immobilized but completely aware).

Either way, where's the fun in playing with a broken toy? The best of both bimbofication and dollification allow the fantasy of the person being aware of what's happened and being helpless to turn things back. In the case of bimbofication, nothing gets me off quite like the moment the bimbo finds they can't do something they used to be able to, or those distant notions of "something isn't right… shouldn't I be able to read?" barely manage to form before being shattered by something that occupies their tiny minds more clearly, like a dick.

Things bimbos are known for: Not being smart, but certainly being capable of some degree of independent thought. Like, y'know, they're, like, dumb? But, like, they can still, like, at least think thoughts and junk.

/d/, 2013.

On degradation, maledom, and conflicting definitions:

I personally don't like the derogatory interpretation of bimbos, where they have to be braindrained and become so lobotomized that they become sex slaves essentially out of force and cohesion, because they're too stupid to not be taken advantage of. To me that signals a humiliation/degradation fetish where the kink is trying to destroy her personality/soul and make her into a sex object, and nothing kills my boner faster than that.

There are a lot of sluttification fetishes, like corruption, hypnosis and ganguro. But I don't feel any of them gave to do with 'bimbos' persay. A slut might routinely be a gold digger, or some kind of business pro cocksucker executing sex with precision, intent and purpose (To get a promotion, reward a free expensive dinner, earn a rich boyfriend, ect) but not care much about sexuality in itself.

My ideal bimbo is always sex positive, but still keeps her availability even when she's not actually commited for sex otherwise. Sometimes she might act like a cute ditzy flirt, other times she may go all in with sex and make your wildest dreams come true. And yet others, she might just feel like going shopping, seeing a movie and hanging out in the mall like a pink-loving blond girly go. She might load herself on sexual potential (big pouty pink lips, skimpy clothes), but whether or not she acts on it is her prerogative. It's not something she feels ashamed or reserved about, just something she does or she doesn't.

The most important aspect of bimbos for me is is they ENJOY sex and being sexy. Not for money, gratitude, or any form of degradation. If it's just a character forcibly becoming a sex slave that has nothing to do with bimbodom, what's the point? Also being ditzy and openly signaling sex isn't always mutually exclusive with empowerment.

Now for me some degrading lobotimized exploited sex slave scenario is fine as long as the bimbo herself is happy dappy. I figure the main point of any sex is satisfaction, no matter how you arrive at it.

Now, I find the stereotypical sluttification stories are a bit more negative in tone. I don't like those very much either. Like with corruption it's dependent upon a self-awareness of the degradation, bimbofication however is all about the shameless lack of self-awareness and living happily in the moment. No harm, no foul.

It burns me that there's so much confusion between the two given the different extremes of feelings they can inspire.

If anything it's the submissive/derogatory bimbo fantasies that are the fake bimbos.

Go back and watch some of the 80s comedies that fueled the stereotype. There are A LOT of bimbo characters that would actually be considered dominant or intimidating.

They're full of things like the uptight college lecturer trying to teach, but the scantily clad blonde in the front seat chewing bubble gum and twirling her hair around her finger keeps distracting him and giggling at his discomfort.

Yet here you get insecure idiots with no understanding of history and who can't cope with the idea of a woman enjoying sex thinking they can dictate the one true bimbo.

Characters like Orihime or Usagi. They may not be sex obsessed or fashion flirty cocksucking tramps but the archetype and personality is the same.

I'd say as much so for Marilyn Monroe. It's more a wide range of traits about a girl being either fun flirty and ditzy, or huge and busty + upbeat. There's no exact definition or ideal bimbo, I love the mental aspects as much as the physical ones.

For example you can have a shy "nerdy" girl, who when she tries to socialize actually comes off as spacy, innocent and kind of cute in that bimboish way. Her personality at heart is similar to a bimbo and makes her one, despite her look. That one chick from the anime HxH, Shizuku comes to mind.

On the other hand you could also have a huge well endowed, thick and extremely busty woman with lots of makeup and sexual appeal, but she's smart and mature with a kinda fun personality. The body is what makes her bimbodom.

If having a high libido is all that it takes to be a bimbo, then the term is meaningless. As was discussed at length, all dictionaries and wikipedia associate bimbos with low intellect - it's the one common trait amongst bimbos. Remove that trait and you no longer have a definition for bimbo since we have already ruled out that physical qualities aren't set in stone for a bimbo… so there's nothing else to define them by other than intelligence.

/aco/, 2015.

On lip expansion:

I'm of the opinion that lips, especially the bigger and plumper they are, are the secret ingredient to make any girl look more like a bimbo with minimal effort. They just ooze femininity, I agree.

The nice thing about lips is that a single change can make big lips go from just being big to totally bimbo, and that's changing it from being shaped to having none, removing the natural bow and making them fat and shapeless. Good lord it's hot.

It takes very little to push their size over what's typical into bimbofied. When they get to be that fat, the lips always seem to droop into that natural O-shape for fellatio somewhat, and it looks like she's always puckered and ready to slurp on some yummy cock.

And, a pair of overplumped kissers can make nearly any expression look a hundred times more air-headed and clueless. It manages to be both totally cute and smoking sexy. I'm glad you know your LDM's too, he does the best mouths.

/d/, 2017.

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cartoonishvendor · 1 year

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hello tumbel-er dot com user CARTOONISHVENDOR, give me more Maggotblood lore. I am insatiable

well, welcome to my tumblr, anon possibly here from my art fight account!! for anyone confused, we're talking about this girlie today:

i haven't posted about her or Long After StarClan on my tumblr once, not as far as i remember. that stuff is mainly in my head, on my art fight account and my youtube, even the starting phases of the story went to my priv twitter (rip in pieces), so im actually really stoked to talk about her now!!

last disclaimer before a read more bc i fear i may make this super long: details of her story are subject to change, since Long After StarClan doesn't exist as a tangible fanfic or comic or anything yet!

that's all, let's go!!

let's start at the beginning: Maggotblood was born to the ShadowClan warrior Blaze (orange tabby shorthair, green eyes) and the kittypet Nellie (white singlecolor shorthair, blue eyes), as the only kit of her litter.

Blaze was part of a sort of ShadowClan youth sub-culture, one a little inspired by RiverClan. this might make absolutely no sense, but it will when you take a look at the differences between Clans in the Long After StarClan universe. the TL:DR here is that LAS RiverClan is a haven of toxic, battle-obsessed behaivor, and some young warriors in ShadowClan either found that really cool, or felt so provoked they decided to start mirroring that exact behaivor (more of the latter, none of them really liked RiverClan). So, Blaze was this really abraisive, over-confident and bloodthirsty warrior whom always bragged about how good he was at everything. naturally, very little other cats in the clan liked him as a result of that. thus, he began seeking admiration from other sources. enter: Nellie

Nellie might not have seemed like it at first, but she matched Blaze's arrogance quite well. she was stuck-up and though she only ever deserved the best, which she thought she found in Blaze. So basically, think Onestar and his kittypet fling and you kinda get Blaze's and Nellie's story. but their whole flirtery grinds to a halt abruptly when it turns out Nellie is pregnant. at first, Nellie isn't really against the idea of kits, knowing but not telling Blaze she knows her twolegs will jsut take them away anyway and they can focus on her again. but Blaze is horrified (not that he'd admit to that of course). tension against outsiders was, for ambiguous reasons, at a bit of a high at that time, and if anyone found out he had kittens with a kittypet it would be a severely blow to his reputation (or the reputation he thought he had). Nellie catches on to this pretty quickly and she's kind of furious when Blaze more or less accidentally admits he only her saw her as a fling, not as the great cat she thought herself of as. when she gave birth to her single kitten, she felt not a single ounce of motherly care for it and decided instead she'd punish Blaze for lying to her. she marches straight into ShadowClan camp, drops off the kitten, and explains who the father is, which Blaze tries desparately to refute, but the resemblance of that kitten and Blaze was just too clear, she even had the same forehead markings as him! so yeah, now everyone knew Blaze did that and he was so butthurt that he never took care of his kit and instead left her in the care of an unrelated queen who didn't care much about her either.

the queen, as well as the rest of the Clan, including Blaze, never made a really big secret out of the fact that Maggotblood was not related to the queen raising her. one day, she felt so starved for motherly attention that she begged Blaze to take her to see her real mother. I did a short PMV about this scene, basically they get to Nellie's twolegnest, Nellie and Blaze fight and then Nellie says really hurtfult things about Maggotblood, practically disowning her a second time.

so they go back, Maggotblood feels absolutely horrible, and at one point, when she was still a kittten, she tried to run away from camp. she got herself hurt and wound up in the medicine den. now, that encounter in there was not the first time she's seen Giantcloud, her future mentor, for more than a few moments. time to get into a LAS specific ritual, yippie!!

so, if you may have noticed, it seems that no clan cat has a canonical clan name, apart from the medicine cats. theres a reason for that!! LAS plays around the Lake territories with the vaguely recent canonical territoy distributions. and the lake territory has the Moonpool as the primary connection hub to StarClan, right?

in Long after StarClan it's uh. it's fucking dried out!!

(scene from this video)

the Moon's Deep is still the meetup spot for medicine cats every half a moon in this universe, but it's also ground for another ritual: when a kitten is between the ages of 1 and 6 moons, on a half moon, they are brought to the Moon's Deep once, in company of the clan's medicine cats (and maybe the parents too, case by case basis). there, they are expected to spend a night sleeping in the gigantic drained pool. and whatever dream they wind up having can and will determine their future role in the clan.

you see, the reason Long After StarClan is called that is that StarClan is absent in the story for the most part. a secondary role medicine cats play here is lorekeeping which includes finding out whatever they can about StarClan and the past, but it's very much in the background of this story. and without StarClan, you can't really have cats with a strong bond to it, making this the centralized way clan cats decide who will be fit for being a doctor and who won't.

Maggotblood, as her dream determined, was also fit to be one. but at that point in time, ShadowClan already had a medicine cat apprentice. Hawthorn, this girlie:

she hated being a doctor and she wanted to be the leader instead, and she was really relieved when it turned out Maggotblood could replace her, but until she could be apprenticed, Hawthorn had to stay in the medicine den.

By ShadowClan tradition, cats are allowed to give themselves their name once they hit 6 moons and are apprenticed. Maggotblood, just a nameless kitten back then, decided to name herself Jasmine, after the flowers in Nellie's garden. until that point, she only really had one cat occasionally looking out for her, whom she considered a friend, and that was Misty. but as soon as she became the medicine cat apprentice, it felt like a whole new world had opened it's doors for her. Jasmine met the other medicine cats for the first time and they were all nice to her, respected her, and she became really good friends with Runner (later Lakerunner), the apprentice of WindClan. and Giantcloud became the cat she trusted the most, he was like a father to her.

during her apprenticeship, Blaze died in a badger attack. Jasmin did not know how to feel, or how to talk about this. surprisingly, she wound up bonding with the RiverClan medicine cat, Waspvenom, over it, since he had a complicated relationship with his biological family too.

the six moons of apprenticeship, the best six moons of her life, ended with her and Runner's final naming ceremony. much like how a dream determines your role, for medicine cats it also determiens your final name despite all rules your Clan has for naming. Runner become Lakerunner, after a dream of him running across the lake. Jasmine, however, had a terrifying dream about carcasses, those of hundreds of cats, swarming with maggots. shaken up, she tells her fellow medicine cats that her new name is Maggotblood, whether she wants it or not.

was it a dream or was it a vision? could have been both, considering what happens next in her story. but this is already so long and if you ever want the TBC it'll have to be another post, sowwy!!

#rambling #warrior cats oc #long after starclan #maggotblood

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kaialone · 3 years

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The small fact that the fighter flavor text in star allies has Kirby speaking is really interesting to me. Does this happen outside of star allies? If so, which abilities? I hope this isn't to much trouble to ask.

It’s no trouble at all ^^

That being said, I don’t really got all the Japanese in-game descriptions of the copy abilities memorized, so I could easily miss some details.

It’s also sometimes hard to tell?

You see, in Japanese it’s pretty common to just drop the subject of a sentence, depending on the context, that’s just how the language works - and a result, a lot of video game narration can feel a bit vague as to who is “talking”.

For example, think of a very typical “You got an item!” line from a game.

In Japanese, such a line would usually more literally translate to “Got an item!”, leaving it unclear if it’s a narrator or the actual character’s thoughts.

That’s just something to keep in mind with stuff like this.

Now, in Kirby pause screen descriptions, it does usually appear to be a narrator “talking” in the pause screen descriptions, a sorta non-character entity, but with an attitude that fits the mood of Kirby.

But, in some cases, the narrations appear to be Kirby instead, and sometimes they will even seamlessly flow into each other, without any visual indicators.

Star Allies in particular does this a lot - like in the pause screens for the Dream Friends it’ll often go from what’s clearly a narrator to clearly the characters themselves between sentences, with no quotation marks or the like.

I also want to point out Planet Robobot as a sort of opposite example, which has the most distinct-sounding narrator, "talking” in a formal, analytical fashion, very unlike any other Kirby game. Set the mood well for that one.

How accurate the respective English versions are to this varies from titlle to title.

With all that outta the way, here are some examples I do know of where Kirby appears to be talking in pause screen descriptions of Copy Abilities.

First, one with actual quotation marks even, the description of the Mike Ability in the Japanese version of Kirby Super Star.

That description starts with the following exchange:

「カービィさん、ごしゅみは？」「・・・カラオケ。」

"Say, Kirby, do you have any hobbies?" "...Karaoke."

Pretty straight-forward, there.

Next is the Fighter Ability.

So it turns out, the Fighter Ability’s description actually often starts with an in-character exclamation that could be Kirby, but it could also be the ability itself talking? In the latter case, it’s probably not meant to be taken literally.

In either case, the descriptions often start with the casual greeting "Ossu!” and/or use the first person pronoun “Oira” - which like I said, sorta invokes the image of a character like Dragonball’s Son Goku and the like.

Then there’s the Sword Ability in the Japanese version of Nightmare in Dream Land.

That one seemingly has Kirby use “Watashi” to refer to himself, written in hiragana as “わたし “.

Like I mentioned in my original post, this one is more formal compared to “Boku”, and it also happens to be what Meta Knight uses - which might be an intentional connection here.

I feel this is actually a better example of the sort of “getting in character” vibe I wanted to point out, so I changed my reference in the original post to mention this one here instead ^^;

Also from the Japanese version of Nightmare in Dream Land, there’s the Freeze Ability’s description.

There, Kirby seemingly refers to himself as “Watashi”, written in katakana as “ワタシ ”.

The speaking style in that descryption is also more feminine, indicating that this is supposed to be the feminine style of “Watashi” rather than the general one.

Finally, the description of the Ghost Ability in the Japanese version of Squeak Squad.

In that one, Kirby also seemingly uses “Watashi” to refer to himself, written in hiragana as “わたし “.

This one appears to lean towards the more neutral style again.

And that’s about all I could find with a quick skim.

Again, video game narration can be a bit vague in Japanese, so you might not wanna take these super seriously, and the descriptions are generally light-hearted fun anway, but there you go ^^

#ask #reply #kirby #kirby of the stars

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sarunohadaki · 3 years

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DQXI/DQIX Crossover

Crossover week: Home | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |

I love Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies. It might be my favorite game of all time. It wasn’t even that long ago that I was hankering for a novelization of it.

Therefore, I think the DQXI cast should all hang out in 9’s storyline and shake things up a bit! Because what can be better than jamming together the two best Dragon Quest games ever??? (except 8 too but you didn’t hear me say that)

You might want previous knowledge of DQIX and XI for this (long) post unless you're ready to be spoiled AND confused.

Genre: Gen/adventure

Summary: Eleven’s a celestrian who has been preparing his whole life to take up the mantle of guardian of Angel Falls to help deliver his people to the Almighty's Realm. Once he finally procures the last fygg and proffers it to the Great World Tree, Eleven thinks easy life is ahead of him. Little does he expect the bedlam that follows, nor the long journey that awaits him, packed with numerous humans in the Protectorate whom he's never met before, yet feel strangely familiar...

Characters

Erik

A worldly thief with a cool head. His past is shrouded in mystery, preferring to keep mum about the more intricate details of his life.

Serena

A gentle priest with a penchant for helping the unfortunate and downtrodden. Spurred on by Abbot Jack's recovery, she seeks to explore the world and help others in need.

Veronica

A fiery mage who knows what she wants in life and isn't afraid to get it. Once freed from drab Abbey life, she agrees to follow her twin, Serena, across the world.

Sylvando

A traveling minstrel, he is never in one place long. When he encounters the team, Sylv can't help but feel drawn to their noble efforts to save the world.

Jade

A martial artist, Jade knows a thing or two about fighting for what she believes in. However, there are some things kicks and punches can't solve. She joins the team seeking an answer to her own questions, though refuses to explain further...

Rab

A merchant who stands stoutly by Jade's side. With a kind face and patient stance, he's been through his fair share of trouble and wants to restore peace to the world.

Hendrik

Originally a thorn in the team's side, Hendrik has a change of heart after a particularly eye-opening event at Wormwood. He resolves to join the team, not only to save the world, but make up for his past transgressions.

Eleven

A silent hero dressed in weird toggery who's super sweet inside. Since the humans of Angel Falls are his first full exposure to the Protectorate, they’re also the first to be subjected to Eleven's stranger habits, like not talking and… staring into space.

I saved the best boy for last! If I ever wrote this fic, I would make him a complete silent protagonist. I love the idea of him not… lazing about, but stumbling into the plot with the help of Stella yelling in his ear. And of people pouring their hearts out to him while he just… 🧍

For comedic effect, I think it’d be cute if he had really strong opinions, but because he doesn’t speak, it’s either expressed on his face and actions. Also, since El has limited experience with humans, he’s gonna get stuff wrong and act Funky sometimes.

I love the idea of him visiting the Protectorate and dragging the rest of the team up there, and them being like, “dude… you didn’t tell us you were a celestrian” and he’s just smiling, although I feel it more plausible that the team doesn’t take rides up to the Protectorate with him. Not sure on that one.

Plot

There would be so much worldbuilding with this story! I want to do more with the Gittish Empire, which would require me to research canon. I feel like there’s more there than I might think, just because I last played the game when I was a lot younger and so I can’t remember much about that part of the game. I’d like to have the fic be canon-compliant but it’s not that big a deal if I had to diverge in some places.

I also thought it’d be cool to have preexisting characters from 9 show up, like Erinn and Corvus. But also sprinkle in the idea that the DQ 11 cast had all known each other in a past life and that’s why they fit together so well. I don’t think they figure that out, however.

One cool thing I just thought about: Zere Rocks is a copy of Zere that Mason made out of rock. How fucked up would it be if something had happened to Mia and she ended up in Zere Rocks? Or maybe there is a rock copy of her in Zere Rocks, but she was in Zere for a time? I already know that Erik and Mia had grown up in Dourbridge, though.

It’s cool little things like that which make it so much fun to try and finagle pieces of two stories together. But that’s why it’s tricky, too. Each of the characters has to feel like they belong in the universe and have a purpose.

I’ve already decided that El is going to recruit people often by having a shared interest in taking a specific enemy down. For example, the twins, who had grown up in the Abbey, agree to help him save Abbot Jack then join him on his adventure afterward.

While the major plot points of DQ 9 would probably stay the same, I think there’s potential for refreshing new points of plot given the variety of new characters.

(P.s. I don't know if it's just me, but Jasper gives off huge Goresby-Purrvis vibes, so he'd prolly take that cheeta's place as an antagonist.)

#Crossover Week #my fic ideas #my writing #dqix #dqxi #god those two look exactly the same #my fanart

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racebox-of-higgars · 3 years

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//plops down at table with three notebooks//

Good evening.

You shall now be the subject of my rambling and info-dumping, seeing as you have recently reblogged a post about invading your ask box to do just that.

So, buckle up, my beloved mutual, for I am about to talk your damn ears off.

We all know historians are heterosexist shabuire, yes? Yes? Good. So I've taken it upon myself to send an f-you to all of them and collect evidence for one of the historically accurate ships they so desperately try to erase. The one in question here is, of course, Alexander Hamilton x John Laurens, or more commonly known as Lams.

I've done... a lot of research, to put it mildly. And yes, as a matter of fact, I do consider reading letters from the late 1700s and screaming because I can feel my heart MELTING as research.

Anygay, there's a lot that I have right now so I'll just hit the highlights, because if I go completely in-depth with everything I've found, this'll be thousands of words longer.

The year is 1779. The month, April. The date... unknown. Which sucks. Alexander and John have fought together for years at this point and are very close... friends. This is the first time they've been truly separated. The letter open with:

"Cold in my professions, warm in my friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you. I shall only tell you that ’till you bade us Adieu, I hardly knew the value you had taught my heart to set upon you. Indeed, my friend, it was not well done. You know the opinion I entertain of mankind, and how much it is my desire to preserve myself free from particular attachments, and to keep my happiness independent on the caprice of others. You should not have taken advantage of my sensibility to steal into my affections without my consent. But as you have done it and as we are generally indulgent to those we love, I shall not scruple to pardon the fraud you have committed, on condition that for my sake, if not for your own, you will always continue to merit the partiality, which you have so artfully instilled into me."

So pretty much what this opening paragraph is saying is this: "*Sexual innuendo* And I'll keep telling you that until you die. So you know I hate everyone and don't want to have any attachments to anyone. But you've managed to worm your way into my heart, even though I didn't want it. So now that you've done it, please keep doing it, for you if not for me."

Now that's just hella gay. Like, hella fucking gay.

The middle paragraphs are mainly talk about the war, so skipping those for the end because that's when things get spicy as FUCK.

Alexander asks John to find him a wife and goes into great detail about exactly what he wants in a wife. I saw a theory somewhere (I can't remember where) that Alexander was actually describing John and yeah, it pretty much checks out. Keeping in mind deliberate irony is a thing.

So then he goes on to say: "...mind you do justice to the length of my nose and don't forget, that I ⟨– – – – –⟩." 'Nose' is a slang term. And the - - - - - are crossed out words. We'll get to those later.

The last sentence of this letter is: "I have gratified my feelings, by lengthening out the only kind of intercourse now in my power with my friend." and I find this. So. Sweet. He's pretty plainly missing John. And just- he uses the word intercourse. How- how is that platonic? This is gay. They're gay. It's gay.

In almost all the letters that survived, they're signed with "Yours", "Affectionately Yrs.", "Yrs most sincerely", "Yr affectionate", and "Yrs forever" from Alexander. "Adieu, my dear boy", "My love as usual", "You know the unalterable sentiments of your affectionate Laurens", and "Yours ever" all came from John, with the last being the most common. That's... also not terribly straight. Something additionally interesting is that John's father, Henry Laurens, called his wife, Elenor, "Dear girl." That would make it explicitly romantic in his eyes. John also called his wife that in the only surviving letter from him to her. Oh yeah, he's married and has a kid, btw.

So pretty much how that happened was John's boyfriend Francis Kinloch broke up with him, he banged Martha probably 'cause he was sad and pissed and had a lot of feelings, she got pregnant, then he married her out of pity. Alexander knew none of that. And they were really close. The only reason he found out was because he happened to stumble upon some stuff he shouldn't have, and he was pissed. The whole paragraph about him detailing the wife he wanted? Pretty much petty payback.

Devoted is an interesting word, isn't it? Stronger than it's synonyms, such as caring or loyal. So if we skip ahead a few years, Alexander is engaged to Eliza. He tells John about this, John responds, and in his next letter he says: "...as if after matrimony I was to be less devoted than I am now." He's telling him, "Don't worry, I'll still love you as much as I always have. Just because I'm getting married, it doesn't change my feelings for you." Again. Heterosexual explanation? None.

" I hate Congress—I hate the army—I hate the world—I hate myself. The whole is a mass of fools and knaves; I could almost except you and Meade." Keep in mind that at this point now, Alexander was married. And he didn't include his wife in the exemptions. Only John and one of his closest friends, Richard Meade. Dunno 'bout you, but that seems rather telling to me. He also says at the end: "My ravings are for your own bosom." And I can't. His ravings are for John's heart I can't.

These are just some of the highlights of my nearly six thousand word book on this subject. I would happily copy/paste it all, but I'm not gonna subject you to that XD For full viewing the link is here, should you wish to listen to me ramble and rant in more detail.

Thank you for allowing me to dump this all on your lap, and I shall now bid you adieu. //vanishes back into the shadows//

HI, sorry it took me so long to answer this, I’ve had a pretty full-on day.

This was actually super interesting to read. I actually did a little bit of research into this about a year ago, when I was writing Lams fanfiction, so I knew about the ‘cold in my professions, warm in my friendships” letter, but not any of the others, so thanks for this!! It was a really fascinating read, and I definitely learned a lot from reading it. Have a good day :)

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creek-cryptid-deluxe · 5 years

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WARNING DRAMA AHEAD

(Which is crazy because I try to actively have a drama free lifestyle)

So, awhile back I wrote about some issues in a friend group containing A & Em. Summary: I chatted with Em about A unintentionally making me feel shitty for FINALLY accepting my limitations & making lifestyle & wardrobe changes to reflect that. Em said she'd talk to A because if I did it, A might feel attacked & get defensive.

Day before yesterday, Em dropped by to hang, help me put together a shoerack, and go to a local costume shop that does rentals and serves all the theater departments & dance companies in a 70 mile radius. This shop is amazing, been around since I was little, almost everything is hand made with amazing care and detail, and the decor in their shop is ever changing, detailed, and super fucking cool. ANYWAY, we got on the subject of A, whom I've only seen once or twice since talking to Em about it & seemed ok both times aside from getting legit pissed that I'm better at macrame plant holders than she is. Apparently A currently thinks I dislike her or like her less or something. So I asked Em if I should gently talk to her about it and see if we can reach an understanding. She said she thought it was a good idea h really, I don't like one of my friends thinking I dislike them. So yesterday I pulled together some courage and messaged her. The following is the conversation that occured:

Me: So, I've heard that you are upset and under the impression that I don't like you anymore or like you less or something. So I'm gonna clear the air, but I'm gonna be blunt and honest with you because I'm not down for lying. K? (And let me go ahead and flat out say, I don't dislike you or like you any less)

A:I've just been feeling some reservations toward me lately. Go ahead I can take blunt.

(Spoiler: she cannot take even sugarcoated gentle level blunt)

ME: So here is the deal. My illness is eternal and is only ever going to get worse. In fact, it is constantly getting worse in small, large, and sometimes interesting & unexpected ways. Sometimes it creeps on slowly, sometimes it hits like an anvil was dropped on me. Therefore I am constantly having to adjust my lifestyle, activities, wardrobe... EVERYTHING. Very recently, I realized that I have spent the last 3 years trying to live my old life and just cope so my quality of life has been SHIT. I've finally truly accepted the shithole that is my health for what it is and have started to truly make real adjustments to my lifestyle, hobbies, wardrobe, ect. Because I will never get better and live in about 400 sq ft (at best) that means when I realize something doesn't fit my abilities or needs anymore, I get rid of it. However, I always offer those things to the kids & my friends first before donating them. But here's the thing, when I offer these things to you, I get a load of questions & comments that end up making me feel like I have failed as a person for realizing what has taken me 3 years to realize. For example: when I told you that Julia's candles were my last batch ever, there were loads of 'have you tried...' and 'I'm sure you can find a way.' I know you mean well, but if I'm giving something up, I've truly tried ever avenue to make it work within my limits and it just doesn't. Even after I quit candles in May, I kept the stuff (which took up massive space) until August because I doubted myself and was reluctant to lose another hobby. But I need to face facts and be realistic. Same with the sweater. I am drastically altering my wardrobe for whatever the upcoming season is to fit the fact that I need my cane at all times now (POCKETS) and the fact that my clothes need to be comfy enough for me to get dressed every day not just days I'm leaving the house. I've lived in PJs for the last year and a half and it's not good for my mental health. So all things that don't fit that criteria or my new altered lifestyle must go. And it's going to be a constant process because I'm constantly getting worse. The jewelry making stuff, I genuinely forgot you wanted it because honestly i don't even remember what happened yesterday, so I'm sorry. (I had jewelry making supplies that I can't use anymore due to -15 hand strength, which I gave to Em.)

A: I'm sorry that I've been putting you down and making you feel shity. That's never been my intention. If I ask a ton of questions it's not because I don't understand the severity and challenges in your daily life. I ask so many questions because I often find unconventional wacky solutions to peoples problems all the time and if I can be in the slightest bit helpful in finding a loophole or a way you might not have seen, I thought that would be better than just saying "I'm so sorry to hear that" I figured you hear that enough but idk how often you hear people actually trying to find a way. Like the sweater example, I would have been happy to take you shopping for a fun print material the made you some pockets. Outside like a cool patchwork with awesome prints, or inside like a bond detective. But you were so quick to snap at me and explain your whole situation like I am not taking you seriously. I ask because I want to hear your needs and maybe just maybe be able to help out. But if all I do is make you feel like your grandma did then I'll do you a favor and stop inviting myself over to make you feel shitty. I'm glad Emma always knows just what to say.

Now at this point, I stopped replying. I was kind of shocked at her response. Like, I expected her to explain her intentions, despite me making it clear I knew her intentions were good, because that's what people do. I expected us to discuss how things should be moving forward so I don't continue to feel like a failure. I considered maybe mentioning somewhere in there that if I want help or advice or solutions, I'll fucking ask. But I did NOT expect those last couple sentences where she basically stomped her feet and said well since this isn't going how I want, I'm not playing with you guys anymore.

After careful thought, writing & editing over a 5 hr period, I sent this (which are screenshots from my notes because typing is rough, I wanted to convey what I wanted just right, and now you have to click on them to see the full thing. I'm sorry I've failed you, the reader of this normal convo turned melodrama, in such a fashion.):

She responded at like 2 am (when I was asleep) so I saw there was a response when I woke up, but given the history of her behavior in situations like this (conveyed via Em, who has known her MUCH longer) I decided not to open it just yet, as I'd like to relax and enjoy my day. This shit stresses me out. I don't do drama and tantrums. I don't tolerate it from my teenage Spawn, much less fucking adults. I get the feeling that the response is going to be just as melodramatic & tantrum filled. If this is how she handles her intentions not aligning with the result of her actions that were driven by said intentions, then she's in for a real shock when she leaves the cuddlebox of college and enters the real world. Your boss isn't going to care about how good your intentions were when you accidentally burned down the kitchen of the bakery you work in. They will just care that you burned down their fucking business.

Welp, may as well rip off the bandaid. For you, my dear reader, to have closure I will read the response. Back in a sec.

OMG IT WAS SO MUCH MORE DRAMATIC THAN I EXPECTED.

A:I understand. And I told you where I stand. I am the type of friend that instinctually tries to help those she cares deeply about. I'm not the friend to just sit and feel bad when there's something I can do. But I have been feeling for a while now unwanted and you have confirmed it by not saying anything then, just talking about it to my former close friend, and then throwing it in my face that you have been holding on to a box cuz of me. And like the adult i am, I don't see why I should change the type of friend I am just because some one is ungrateful for it. I'll go help someone else leave their abusive boyfriend's in the middle of the night. for the people I care about I'd do anything, anything except sit and do nothing while I'm told how much worse I make things when I try and help. I will just take my good intentions elsewhere. I have had the worst year of my life but I don't remember you asking me once anyway. I wish you the best buy obviously your life is better without me and my negativity in it. I truly am sorry I hurt your feelings and I never ever wanted to. I cherished your friendship more than you'll ever know and you can ask anyone. But because I can't see myself sitting by biting my tongue around you and waking on eggshells because I clearly can't see the bounty between helpful conversion and being a cunt. Since I respect you so much I'll go ahead and remove that stupid cunt from your life so you won't be put down again.

HOOOLY SHIT. I'm not responding to that giant fucking dramatic pity party. She legit needs to grow the fuck up. Good god.

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(1/2) My MC's parents were vampire hunters who tortured and killed vampires, but part of what they did was actually scientific. They did research on the effects that dead man's blood would have on vampires. it's more complicated, but super freshly dead blood isn't extremely toxic, but the older the blood is, the worse the effect gets, with really old blood the effect is similar to contracting a prion disease (quantity also comes into play, but that's the basics of it)

(2/2) What kind of experiments would they be likely to do? And how could they do them in torturous, inhumane ways, but still get scientific results? Things like keeping it reasonable for actual scientific regulations and stuff really doesn't matter too much, because they kept it all under the radar from any important authority. Also how might the experiments continue ~20 years after the original ones stopped? (The MC's parents were brutally murdered, likely by an escaped victim of theirs)

You knowI think that if I get an ask about werewolves next I’ll have the entire HammerHorror set? I’m hoping that unlocks an achievement.

So firstoff science and torture do not mix. Science relies on method and controls. Itrequires patience and restraint and the ability not to smash everything when itgoes wrong.

Tortureis never restrained or controlled and it is rarely recorded let alone recordedas meticulously as scientific research has to be.

That isn’t to say that unethical experiments don’texist. They mostcertainly do. But the difference is whether the pain or the results arethe main point.

I’m goingto contrast two cases to try and illustrate the difference, both in America atroughly the same time and both involving patients in mental institutions.

ElsieLacks was a child when she was committed to an institution. She was epileptic,probably had low IQ and was likely deaf. She was used in multiple experimentsbefore her death at 16. There is no evidence that her consent or her parent’sconsent was sought at any point.

One ofthe procedures Elsie was forced through involved draining the fluid around thebrain. This causes dizziness, vomiting, seizures and headaches for months whilethe skull refills with fluid and can also cause permanent brain damage andparalysis.

Elsie wasforced through this multiple times.

This wasdone so the doctors could get clear x-rays of her brain in an attempt to finddifferences between her brain and a ‘normal’ brain.

Thepictures were more important than a black child’s suffering. This was wrong andthis is morally despicable. But it wasn’t badscience. It was gathering clear evidence from multiple sources (otherepileptics and epileptic children were used) and recording the results clearly.It was using the best techniques and the knowledge of the time.

That isnot a justification and the bastards should have read the bloody NurembergCode.

But it isdifferent in kind to the behaviour of Ewen Cameron against ‘patient Mary C’.

Cameron’s‘experiments’ were supposed to destroy a patient’s personality and allow him torebuild it as he choose. To do this he subjected mental health patients who hadnot consented to extreme periods of sensory deprivation.

Consensual(and properly conducted) experiments on this kind of sensory deprivation keptpeople in this state not longer than six days (this was an extreme outlier mostvolunteers couldn’t do it for more than 24 hours).

Cameronkept Mary C in these conditions for 35 days. There were other patientssubjected to the same sort of sensory deprivation, but there was no consistencyin the way Cameron worked. There was no control group, no alternativetreatments. The patients did not all have the same condition or show the samelevel of symptom severity. The patients were not kept in sensory deprivationconditions for the same length of time.

And theend result is that the only conclusion that can actually be drawn fromCameron’s ‘experiments’ is that sensory deprivation is really fucking damaging.

This wasnot unethical science but torture decorated with science-like trappings: labcoats and special equipment and long words.

Usuallywith previous asks about ‘scientific torture’ I’ve recommended ditching thescientific trappings and calling it plain ol’ torture.

Thistime…..I think you’d be better off ditching some of the torture elements andturning this into proper, extremelyhorrific and unethical, scientific research.

So forgetabout anything that’s trying to make it actively worse for the victims. That’sthe wrong mind set. Instead consider the options in terms of what increases understanding of vampirismand discount any pain the victims may suffer.

Think ofthem as fruit flies. (Which are the most common experimental animal and thanksto a biologist with a hangover I know they can be dissolved in alcohol).

The firstthing they’ll need is a lot ofvampires and a place to keep them. Ideally they’d be keeping over a hundred.They’d be keeping them in identical conditions, so the cells or cages (I’dsuggest cells) should be exactly the same.

They’dalso need easy access to a morgue and/or a supply of animals.

They needa control group which is fed regularly with fresh blood. This group exists sothey have normal healthy vampires to compare the others too. They can also beused to establish a base line for how much fresh blood the vampires need tostay healthy. Around 20 individuals should be sufficient. Preferably a varietyof ages and both sexes should be present.

The restof it then becomes about varying the feeding conditions for the others in asystematic way.

The firstexperiment is probably simple. Stop feeding a group and observe the process ofstarvation. They need meticulous notes. How much did the subjects weigh before?How tall were they? What did they look like? How does that change every dayuntil they die? Do they die?

Next theymight move on to reducing rations of fresh blood and watching the result of amore prolonged starvation. They’d probably compare this to human starvationusing data from something like the Minnesota starvation experiments.

Togetherthose first two are at least a year’s work.

Then theymight start looking at how varying the blood itself affects the vampires.

Youmention blood from dead people, is it blood drained from corpses or blood takenwhile they were alive? They’d want to check both. Is being inside thedecomposing body important to the process of making the blood toxic? Is normalblood-transfusion blood that’s been stored for months OK or does it need to befresh? Are the storage conditions important?

That’s atleast five variables to check before you go into different lengths of time theblood has been left and different storage conditions. Let’s say each triallasts 6 months. With a sample size of 20 individuals each and space for a totalof 100 they can run 8 experiments in a year.

It’s alot of work. It’s a full time job for at least one person, probably more liketwo.

The mainthing is recording everything. Everyweight change and behaviour change in every subject, every day over a longperiod of time.

They alsoneed to vary only one thing with eachexperiment and run each experiment for long enough to see the full scope of theresults.

So ifthey’ve done enough experiments to know how much blood vampires need to stayhealthy and they have their control group and they’re interested in how ‘old’blood has to be to be harmful-

In asample size of 100, minus the 20 for the control, using a group of 20 for eachvariable (20 is a small number by theway-) you’d have 4 possible variables. You’d be feeding all the vampires thesame amount of blood at the same times. The control would have fresh blood. Thefirst group might have day old blood. The second week old blood, the thirdmonth old blood and the fourth blood that’s six months old.

The oldblood would all have had to be acquired under the same conditions and stored inthe same way. They’d need storage areas for the blood and a record system thatlets them keep track of exactly how old each bag of blood is, its blood typeand where it came from. Preferably all vampires would be feeding on the sameblood type, taken from healthy (or healthy at time of death) non-drug usingpeople.

They’dneed to account for any drugs administered to humans at hospitals because itmight contaminate their blood supply and affect their results.

Scientificresults come from this sort of meticulous care and attention to detail.

Continuingthe experiments after 20 years is actually pretty feasible.

Rememberhow I said records are the main thing? Continuing the experiments is as simpleas someone else coming across the results and picking up where the originalsleft off.

Even ifthe MC’s parents aren’t part of the mainstream scientific community they couldn’tdo this without some kind of organisation of vampire hunters. The informationthey’re gathering potentially benefits those hunters, just as good science hasthe potential to benefit any community. They probably handed the data to anyonein this loose organisation who wanted it.

Theinformation could have been passed around for years until eventually coming tosomeone with the resources and desire to replicate the experiments. They’d thenset about constructing an environment identical to the cells MC’s parents used,catching vampires and…..running experiments from where they left off.

Theymight begin by replicating some of the original study’s results. Then they’dstart exploring new areas. Perhaps they’d check if the temperature the blood isstored at makes a difference to how quickly the prion-like effect takes hold? Orwhether freezing the blood protects the vampires from these toxic effects. Whatexactly they’d try depends on what the parents did.

You might also want to look up how toxicity studies on mice are conducted.

I hopethat helps. It’s certainly the most detailed description of unethicalexperimentation on vampires I’ve ever written.

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#tw torture #unethical experiments #torture is not scientific #ways torture fails #Nuremberg Code #unconsensual experiments #Elsie Lacks #Mary C #Cameron #fantasy ask #starvation #poisoning #toxicity #Anonymous

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