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isekyaaa · 2 years ago
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Alh*itham & K*veh relationship analysis (spoilers below)
I said before that Alh*itham holds a level of "resentment" for K*veh, but what I really meant was "contempt." It's the contempt you feel when you're pushed past the point of sympathy and pity. You see someone you care about that's in a bad state, but the thing is that they're ALWAYS in a bad state due to nobody's fault but their own. They go from pitying to pathetic and pitiful.
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This line isn't because Alh*itham literally refuses to do good deeds. It's because giving into K*veh's nagging would only serve to enable his guilty conscience. K*veh's guilt is what pushes him to clean and do things. One would think that helping K*veh would help ease his guilt and ease his stress, but all that does is put a bandaid on a gaping wound. What K*veh needs to learn is simply to stop. Learn he doesn't need to clean. He doesn't need to do the errands. He doesn't need to be "good." He doesn't need to give. He doesn't need to DO. He can just BE and that's okay.
But K*veh doesn't learn. He doesn't catch the hint. He doesn't change. Then the thought comes, "Why should I care about someone that doesn't want to get better?" And the next thought, "But unfortunately I DO care, so this whole situation irritates me even more." Alh*itham can ignore K*veh for the most part, but the times he gets too much, Alh*itham's irritation and contempt begins to seep in and he gets more biting.
It confuses me why people pair these two together because they are not what the other person needs. K*veh needs care. He needs love. He needs reassurance. Alh*itham needs independence. He needs low maintenance. He needs stability. As of right now, they only make the other worse.
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raytorosaurus · 1 year ago
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bit of a weird ask but I saw a twitter post saying they were 'devastated' over what frank said in an interview about performing/writing in ls dunes compared to some other bands (theyre assuming that the 'other bands' means mcr because they cant think of the 20+ other bands that hes been in) and after reading it a second time it doesn't even seem that negative?? it just talks about different processes and his excitement for dunes, but I still feel down anyway now because of that reaction, and it really makes me doubt that part of the fandom's faith in the band and its members im kinda close to quitting the fandom because of this and idk how the tumblr/twitter gang here survives it y'all are troopers, im unsure how to avoid that kind of doomposting
sorry i totally forgot to answer this the other day, i hope you see this!
but yeah, i see the same thing and it is. pretty irritating haha. it speaks to the unrealistic traits and behaviours fandom has applied to these ppl over the years/decades - which are harmless enough on the surface, but left unchecked you end up with doomposting or disproportionate levels of discourse when one of them doesn't behave the way their textpostified personalities would have you believe hahaha. if frank isn't anything but reverential towards mcr then he must hate it. if gerard puts time and work into his artistic and career pursuits that aren't related to mcr he must be giving up on the band like he supposedly did in 2012. if ray, who hasn't done a single interview since 2016, isn't on stage showing frank public affection or admiring him on twitter, he must be bossy and arrogantly taking all the glory for mcr's guitar parts and musicality. if mikey does anything it's gotta have something to do with gerard or mcr because obvs he doesn't exist outside the band etc etc. again none of these things are like. problematic or bad**, just kind of. annoying to engage with as an adult in the space i go to enjoy myself hahaha.
but this specific discussion abt frank implicitly dissing mcr also cropped up after that podcast frank did with travis, where he discussed writing music with ls dunes vs every other band/project he's been involved in. which, let's remember, is a fucking lot. how many albums has frank made or been part of? too many to easily count. only about four or five of those were with my chemical romance. ls dunes is only set apart from the rest because they're currently active after mcr's huge reunion, and they're a supergroup so they're getting a lot of press attention. people have never batted an eye in the past when frank has discussed how great it is to be working with this or that musician on this or that album - it's just the timing of ls dunes and our own high hopes for new mcr music that make people take this one in particular so personally.
on top of that... we've always known mcr has a fraught and stressful writing process??? that is like. a major part of the lore? we're all compelled by the insane amount of unlikely success mcr achieved in their careers, and by the fact that they were always controversial. we reblog quotes about gerard saying mcr's purpose was always to be against something, to undermine expectations, to infiltrate, contaminate etc. i thought this was something we were all drawn to about mcr? so i'll never understand the shock and disappointment when frank makes the simple statement that writing with ls dunes is easier, less stressful, and more lighthearted than writing with mcr. like...duh it is? mcr have always been open about how much they put into writing albums - and also about how they're proud of what they created, and that they consider each other cherished family.
the most annoying part for me is when people take quotes about frank working with travis and twist them into some kind of dig at/criticism of ray. i can only assume these people aren't used to working with others in a creative capacity, especially long term, because i just totally can't understand where it comes from lol. as someone who's read/watched every guitar-related mcr interview i've ever been able to get my hands on: ray and frank have literally never been anything other than fully complimentary of, respectful to, and affectionate with one another. ray was far from the first guitarist frank ever worked with and leagues from the only one. also, creative partnerships are extremely complex and every one is completely unique, with it's own strengths and difficulties. if ray and frank didn't love playing with each other they wouldn't have done it for years and years. that doesn't mean frank can't vocally love playing with other guitarists??? these things are not contradictory and appreciating aspects of one creative partnership is not equivalent to bad-mouthing a different one? like that is just not how it works skdkdjd
anyway i think a lot of it comes down to the fact that, for us, we see these people as parts of my chemical romance. naturally, because that's the reason we know they exist! but all of these people live rich and full and complex lives like any other person. the only parts of those lives that we generally see much of are the my chemical romance parts. we look for mcr in everything they say, which is understandable but unrealistic. all we need to do it keep that in mind imo
**(tho ppl's tendency to pit ray and frank against each other for some reason, which used to be a way common but is unfortunately a sentiment i'm starting to see crop up again in some places, definitely can get. suspicious and uncomfortable. especially considering that frank is the fan favourite so these pointless comparisons tend to err in his favour, and in either direction they tend to be very shallow and uninformed anyway. but that's a separate conversation)
wow i literally did not intend to turn this into a giant essay im so sorry. kudos if you made it this far lol. and i feel you anon, it's discouraging and puts a bad taste in my mouth when i come to this fandom for fun and fulfillment. i wish i had better advice because im feeling a little similar but just try to remind yourself that other people's opinions are just that. i find it helps if you can curate your own dash/feed or make friends in more discussion-friendly spaces like dms or gcs or discord servers. or even a priv twitter account with a few like-minded mutuals where you can vent ur shared frustrations over things without making it a whole big deal HAHAHA. the less time you spend scrolling thru ppl's public posts and the more time you spend diving into interviews, podcasts, videos, the web archive etc to detach yourself a little from group fandom-think the better you'll probably feel about mcr tbh! also long as you have friends or close mutuals that's all that matters imo <3
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byghostface · 6 months ago
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Hey. I’m on anon right now but I’m not here to hate or anything so I’ll probably take it off. Edit: I will now, knowing I’ll make my account vulnerable, but if you don’t agree then please just don’t awnser the ask, I don’t want to get hateful things in my inbox for this. Please?
You’ve mentioned things that I’ve said in the past and things that I was actually wrong about and yeah, I’m sorry about that but can I be honest? I’m tired. I’m tired of fighting all the time. I’m sick of disourse and this constant war between Damijon shippers and Daminika shippers.
I am so over it. Daminika shippers are mean and Damijon shippers are mean. We are both mean, why? Cause we’re extremely defensive. I’ve seen what you guys have to put up with on twitter by Damijon shippers and I hate it. I hate it so much and because of that, Daminika shippers will migrate from twitter to tumblr with the same idea that Damijon shippers are the same way, we aren’t but with that idea, came attacking, and having to stay on defensive constantly. It’s exhausting, I got bitter and hateful, I know I got bitter and hateful and a lot of you will get bitter and hateful too.
We should both be allowed to nurture safe places on the internet where we share content of the ships we like without feeling the need to diss each other or be at each other’s throats or feel like we’re doing something wrong.
I’d rather that. I have attacked people in the past. I have been rude, mean, on the defensive and I am spent. I don’t want to do this forever, it’ll do some serious damage to both of our well beings and online drama should never be worth that.
So I’m asking for a truce? At the very least, we stop being on the offensive and stay on defensive, we stop generalizing each other and start leaving one another be? Or we could stop posting about the other ship entirely or make both our spaces welcome to the other ship.
I like your art. I reblogged some of it and wanted some of it on my page and some of my mutauls who ship damijon reblog it as well but you stated you don’t want Damijon shippers interacting with your page, and honestly I respect that so I stopped and told my mutuals to stop as well… but… still we both tend to be hostile to each other, I think it’s just really sad to try and seek community where other people like the same things you do and find this instead. This type of culture is toxic. A good friend of mine is a Daminika shipper and they hate Damijon but I still love them so I know it’s possible, no ship is good enough to have to put up with this constantly, not even Damijon after years of shipping them. I just want some sort of common ground. So truce?
I still stand by what I said, I don't want damijon shippers to interact with me, and I don't want to surround myself with people I do not feel safe or unclear and trouble me for days.
We are both defensive, you are in a pre-existing fandom. And I'm in a new fandom. I want Flatline's fandom to be good and progress naturally with more supportive fans without overlapping big fandom to keep coming in dunked-on/talking over the content we have and enjoy, with the far-fetched fanon that doesn't even make sense with her character in the comic.
Most of the Flatline fans/ daminika fans are from Twitter because they found out about Nika through there and how we keep talking about her positively and defending her daily since 2021. They are already discouraged/intimidated by Tumblr people and how forgivable this place is by the large amount of ppl with proshipping, with "complex relationships" fanon that overshadows/damaged characters. I just happened to post art here from the beginning to stick it through and stay in my tags.
You said I generalized things, and you do the same by putting yourself into the said generalized things to defend them and create tolerate ground and bring more people from your space to talk over daminika shipper and being annoyed that we want to talk solely about the canon content or any problems we have.
People with different ideas exist. And not everything is about you, if you don't do the bad/hateful things then maybe let daminika shippers speak about our frustration without the need to come in to beat us down and gloss over the issue like it doesn't exist (when we do have ppI here seen the hate towards Flatline is real and constant from damijon shippers). It's your side of the fandom that constantly caused problems for us, and you still vouch for all like it was nothing.
Now, Nika is in the process of a relationship with Damian, as a daminika shipper I enjoyed their interaction while I could and created fan content for them. But it's not so enjoyable when some of you talk like they are going to break up in the future(so Damian can date Jon Kent). Like why do you want Nika to fail so soon in your own fanon? And villainize her when she is just a 15-year-old girl currently trying to figure out things? Like what was the reason?? (want Damijon to eventually happen that's why). When you could just write your damn fic and live in your own fanon without including her, since you will still prioritize damijon and tools her(for canon validation) in the end.
I hate it when ppl mix around the characters just for shipping out of spite and do not consider their age and current circumstances. Like the respawn x flatline things damijon shippers created months ago, and now I see ppl want to ship jondaminika…like give me a break for fuck sake. Why is a college student squeezed between two high school freshmen? Like get his grow ass out of there, I don't need ppl pushing their damijon thoughts onto Nika just so they can cope with that damijon ship is not canon and with canon age gaps!!
All I ask for is to leave Nika alone and let her have time to grow and wait for the comic to explain itself (I trust Williamson because he is her creator and clearly still have plans for her).
I'm tired too. These ship fights are too early for Nika. She's not even breaking up with Damian. Damian is not yet getting a second canon love interest any time soon, Nika is not developed enough to get her own second love interest, and I'm here fighting with none-canon shippers with pre-existing fandom. Trying to save a space for ppl who just want to root for Nika or enjoy daminika contents.
Like I can not stop what you want to ship but how hard could it be to ship different ships separately and look at them in different worlds without interfering with one another? And how hard could it be to leave me alone when you disagree with me personally when I speak my frustrations?
I really don't know how you managed your fandom cuz I never went into or tagged damijon tags, and you had me blocked for months before this(for your safety or my safety I genuinely don't know). You said you respect my boundaries and I'm grateful for that but I have heard something you have done to other fandom and see some of your post screen shots from my friends about how you talk about them. You've done a whole lot before I can even finish a drawing.
I do hope you have changed cuz you said you don't want to do this hateful things forever(so am I) and you like my art, but I need you to hear this: I do not feel any comfort with you or any of your friends around me. I think it's best for us not to interact with each other, and this is just me speaking.
Let's keep our social distance, stay six feet apart and stay in our own ship tags, the best truce I can think of.
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beautifulhigh · 2 years ago
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I have a question for you that I really hope you'll answer. But if you think it might start discourse you'd rather avoid, I understand if you ignore this.
So I love both OG and LS and I follow a bunch of popular blogs in both fandoms. but so many of those folks watch only one of the two shows and are pretty rude about the other one, by insulting cast members and making fun of even the popular well-received storylines. often they don't tag such posts in any particular way so there's no way to filter those out. I sent a few of them asks requesting if they'd tag such posts. Some agreed to but they haven't actually done it. I've seen you interact in a pretty friendly way with some of those accounts and I'm wondering, how do you do it? Everyone always says to unfollow but I genuinely don't want to miss out on the other posts these ppl share. I enjoy those other posts. It's just these particular posts that diss the shows that I want to avoid but can't. I've tried ignoring it, I've tried laughing it off, but I don't think I'm very good at managing my emotions because I always still end up feeling low and negative when I see such posts. How do you manage to interact with people with opinions you clearly don't share? I'd really appreciate any tips. I really don't want to withdraw from these two fandoms but I don't know how to remain while also maintaining a healthy emotional state.
Firstly, I'm sorry this has happened to you. I really am. And I want to stress that this reply is 100% around my experience and the way I have curated my fandom experience, and YMMV. I hope that it doesn't vary too much but this is how I deal with it. I'm going to tag a few people in this, people who I have on my dash, purely to illustrate the diversity and how you can approach things.
I'm also going to pre-empt things and say that if you read a line and you get mad at me for that one line, I want you to do two things. Firstly, I want you to go outside and touch grass. Secondly, I want you to maybe read the full thing and engage some level of critical thinking before you start yelling at me that I'm being inconsiderate because you have a grass allergy so how DARE I tell you to go touch grass?
Also, because I want this to have a bit of a reach and I know people do curate their dashes, I'm going to be a bit sneaky with how I refer to things to actively circumvent any filters. Should make sense what I'm actually referring to but if you're not sure then please ask.
Step one
Curate your experience. I mean this. One of the few joys of this hellsite is that you are in control over your dash. You can't control who people on your dash reblog but you can start with who is on your dash. If you don't want to block anyone then you can filter by blog names and install add ons like Tumblr Savior.
Step two
Remember why you're on this hellsite in the first place. Chances are it's for fandom purposes. And, given the premise of your ask, I'm going to focus on the TV element of it. So you're here because you like one or both of the weewoo shows and you want to share thoughts and ideas and reblogs of gif sets of people who are WAY too pretty to just be out there like normal people. And because we're hardwired that way, we want to seek connections with people. So we follow blogs and we talk to people and we have our mutuals and we message then and chat with them and we develop relationships with them because we all watch the same TV show.
But – and this is the point that I think a lot of fandom forgets. It's a fucking TV show. That's it. A silly little show which is 99% designed for entertainment and distraction. I am not ignoring the fact that there will be parts of both shows which have impact above and beyond the show, but Ryan Murphy et al did not set out to make shows with the primary goals of changing people's lives.
It is a TV show. It isn't actually life or death. So the first thing you need to ask yourself I have represented in a nice little flow chart with ALT text:
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Negative and hateful ideas
Yes, it's a TV show. But that doesn't stop shitty people saying shitty things. I love that both OG and LS have a diverse cast. I love that both of them explore difficult issues such as addiction and a sense of self-worth. I love that both of them have characters who are tragedy magnets and are both dealing with an entire back story of guilt and grief and a sense of failure and so we are rooting for them to find the self-worth that we know they deserve. Is this Evan? Tyler Kennedy? Both of them? Maybe Eduado, or Carlos? Both captains have their tragedy stories.
But what I'm talking about here is people making comments that are, no matter your views or stances, way out of line. Be them about the characters or the actors, you know exactly the kind that I mean. Commenting on the ethnicity, gender, sexuality of characters/actors. Making statements about race or religion. The Big Stuff that most of us know is way out of line.
So if someone is hating on "Buddy" because one of them is of Latinex descent? Screw you, step on a Lego. If you're hating on "Tarlus" because both of the actors are queer? You can fuck right off now. If you dislike Hen's storylines because she's a proud, queer black woman? Sit on a spike. If you want Paul to shut up and go away because he's trans? Walk off a short pier.
If you wish Owen had less seggsy and screen time? You'll find friends in both camps! But that's about the character and the storytelling.
A good rule of thumb is: can it be changed? If no, don't be a bitch about it. Oliver can't change his birthmark, Alisha can't change her skin colour, Rafael can't change his sexuality, Brian can't change his gender identity.
But they could write "Buddy" as queer. They could write Owen not drooling over some woman. And so we are going to have and express opinions over this.
We know where those lines are and those are the ones we have to draw. We have to shut down those voices and make it clear that they are not welcome because a) we need to make sure there are more safe spaces than there aren't, and b) we need to send the message that this kind of hate isn't OK.
Now where fandom seems to have an issue is where it comes to different opinions. This is because we equate what we like with who we are, and for many people fandom is a part of their identity as a person. There are so many reasons for this – good and otherwise. You see yourself represented in the show, the characters. The storylines resonate with you. It got you through the worst time in your life. You met amazing people because of it. Fandom is a good thing, it truly is, and it exists BECAUSE people take shows and characters and storylines to heart.
So if you come at the fandom then it feels like you're under attack. But you're not. Have another flow chart, also with alt text.
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And I'm going to tag my wonderful friend @capseycartwright in this because she hates LS with a passion. I would go so far as to say it's probably visceral? Still follow her, still love her, and I still read her "Buddy" fics because she's an amazing writer. And the reason for this is because there isn't a single comment she makes about LS that is personal or hateful or spiteful. She just doesn't like it.
Now even if she did make a post saying "anyone who watches LS is dumb" I'll still follow her. Because if I follow my flow chart, even though I would call her a friend and maybe say I know her? She's not someone I'm related to and I don't have to deal with her on the day to day. Also she's not saying "Jen is dumb for liking LS". Even if she was, still not related so whatevs.
I'm also going to tag @paperstorm who isn't an OG fan, doesn't watch it at all, isn't at all shy in expressing her opinions on anything. If OG stuff crosses her dash she doesn’t engage. [Edited to clarify]
Now when @capseycartwright makes a post about LS, one of two things happen. Most of the time I just keep on scrolling. She's expressing her opinion about a show she doesn't watch, doesn't like, and has picked up on something that she's commenting on. She's not saying anything awful that would be picked up on the first flow chart so why do I care? I'm not going to get her to change her mind and honestly? It doesn't matter if she does or she doesn't.
I may comment – like I did on her wedding post – if I feel I can offer something to help explain something. She posted about "Tarlus" not cancelling the wedding so, as someone who has watched the episodes and had the information, I pointed out that they were absolutely going to do that but even the grieving widow was all for them having it go ahead.
The trick here is to be respectful. If I come at her with "well ACTUALLY" then it's not going to work. I just dropped in, said my bit, then left. People are still going to think the wedding shouldn't have happened - hell, there's people in the LS fandom who feel like that.
Could it have been written differently? Yes. So opinions get to be had and respected so long as they're respectful, as per the first flow chart.
We can debate if they should have gotten married in the episode. I'm not debating their right to get married.
When @paperstorm responds to an OG ask about something, same principle. Is she being hateful? No. Can I add anything to help explain/clarify? If yes, do it then move on. [Edited for clarity]
Be the change etc etc
If I wanted to start a fight, I could drop into the tags "OMG Buddy/Tarlus is awful and the characters deserve so much better". And people who have made fandom a huge part of who they are will take that a lot more to heart than people who haven't. Only you know where you fall on that spectrum.
Most people are not going to change their minds. I'm not going to be able to convince @capseycartwright that Tarlus are endgame and get her signed up to the "Peaches and Cherries" crew. I'm not going to convince @paperstorm that the OG crew are a wonderful example of how the love of your found family can help you rebuild and find strength with your blood family. And neither of them are going to convince me to bail on the other show!
Fandom doesn't recruit through arguments. Fandom recruits through gif sets and fics and metas and all of the good stuff that comes out of enjoying a show. Fandom grows through people sharing their love of a show and the characters involved in it. It doesn't recruit and it doesn't grow through arguments.
So if people are saying stuff you don't agree with, so long as they are not hurting anyone? Let them. Why are you ruining your peace and your enjoyment yelling into the wind? If you don't follow them and you're only coming across them because they are tagging their hate so it shows in the tags, then realise they're doing it to get the reaction from you. I'm not letting that petty win so I will keep on scrolling. And if it's on my dash? Well then I will just check that they've not decided to indulge in some -ism statements, and then I will keep on scrolling.
Because fandom is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be uplifting. And there is enough shit out there in the world right now without yucking someone else's yum. Even if you don't understand it. (I don't understand how anyone can eat mushrooms, but I'm not running around a restaurant knocking them off people's plates.)
We like different things. We like what others dislike. And there are so many ways for you to find room and balance those things in your life if you want to. If they don't want to then that's their issue, not yours. Think about the friends you have IRL – do you share every single interest with them? Some of my closest friends are huge Drag Race fans, but not once have I had an issue with them discussing it in our group chat or making plans which exclude me for them to go and see shows.
I don't care that @capseycartwright is a huge Buddy fan. She loves them, it brings her joy, and so I love that for her. I love that she has something in this world which brings her enjoyment, even if I don't share it.
I don't care that @paperstorm doesn't like OG, and I'm pretty certain she doesn't care that I do.
What I do care about is whether it matters in the grand scheme of things. And honestly? More of fandom doesn't matter in the Big Picture than does. It matters when we use it to do great things. It matters when it helps people feel seen and heard and represented. It doesn't matter when your ship isn't canon/gets married.
tl;dr – if people are being deliberately shitty then the block button is your friend. Otherwise, why does it matter if someone has a different opinion to you?
I know this has gotten stupid long, but I wanted to do it justice because you seem to be struggling with it. And if you ever want to talk to me off anon then please do.
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ocdhuacheng · 2 years ago
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Hi, sorry to do this, but I notice you vent about the TGCF manhua art quite a bit… Which within itself is fine; it’s your blog and your opinion and you don’t have to like it, but…
The main thing is, when you type a post with barely any text and then put most of your thoughts in the tags, it will show up when other people look through the tags…since that’s how the Tumblr search function works.
So for example, if I’m interested in finding posts on various manhua (not solely related to TGCF), I end up having to scroll through quite a few posts of yours where you’re just dissing the TGCF manhua. Which is again fine in it being your opinion, but it makes it a bit harder for people browsing like me who just want to enjoy various manhua and weren’t intending to view multiple negative posts in a row that could lean toward discourse or drama-stirring.
I’m not even that into TGCF or the manhua myself, but I do like different donghua and manhua and it’s just a tad awkward scrolling through an already mostly quiet and empty tag and just coming across multiple posts that seem designed as a personal opinion that is meant to be shared to one’s blogs/followers rather than the full public of Tumblr[’s search function] (I realize the tags can feel like a quieter place to communicate your thoughts, and this is true for reblogs, but for original posts, it only draws more eyes to your post if someone’s searching up key words in the search bar).
Plus as mentioned, the manhua tag can be pretty quiet, so it’s just a bit inundated at the moment with the TGCF manhua hate (it’s not just you that does this) + the existing spam bots. And the perpetuation of “not really actual manhua content” is only exacerbated with the fact that manhua in general is such an underrated medium, and the tag is already flooded with people mistagging different manhwa as manhua etc.
That’s why I thought I’d mention it, although usually I wouldn’t try to say anything! Apologies for the long message. You can go back to hating the TGCF manhua now, but I hope you’ll be willing to at least take the tagging stuff into consideration. 😅
Yea I know how the search function works the reason why I say manhua in the tags instead of specific things like tgcf or starember is so that it doesn’t show up in the tgcf or starember tags (so no I’m not tryna start discourse or stir drama) I literally didn’t think anyone went into the generic manhua search page lmfao 😂 and I don’t even do this thaaat often I made like 3 posts in the last couple days bc ppl were being annoying about a poll. But like whatever i mean if it bothers you That Much I’ll try to remember to sensor manhua in the tags too skdjdjcjejdjeidjdj
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uncle-fruity · 11 months ago
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When I reblogged this, I put in the tags "ppl who haven't read the book don't even know about Ignorance and Want" -- and then I thought about that and decided I'd break you off a piece of the actual text! This is at the very end of the Ghost of Christmas Present chapter:
“Forgive me if I am not justified in what I ask,” said Scrooge, looking intently at the Spirit’s robe, “but I see something strange, and not belonging to yourself, protruding from your skirts. Is it a foot or a claw?” “It might be a claw, for the flesh there is upon it,” was the Spirit’s sorrowful reply. “Look here.” From the foldings of its robe, it brought two children; wretched, abject, frightful, hideous, miserable. They knelt down at its feet, and clung upon the outside of its garment. “Oh, Man! look here. Look, look, down here!” exclaimed the Ghost. They were a boy and girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread. Scrooge started back, appalled. Having them shown to him in this way, he tried to say they were fine children, but the words choked themselves, rather than be parties to a lie of such enormous magnitude. “Spirit! are they yours?” Scrooge could say no more. “They are Man’s,” said the Spirit, looking down upon them. “And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!” cried the Spirit, stretching out its hand towards the city. “Slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And bide the end!” “Have they no refuge or resource?” cried Scrooge. “Are there no prisons?” said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. “Are there no workhouses?”
THAT is the note that the Ghost of Christmas Present ends on. Immediately after this moment, the clock strikes twelve and the Spirit of Christmas Yet-to-Come shows up.
It is always a treat when an adaptation includes this moment, because it is so often overlooked. It's interesting what people choose to cut out of a story like this. There is a lot of value in reading the source text for this particular story. It's a certified banger, and it's definitely readable within one day, or reasonably spread out across a week if you're reading one stave (chapter) a day. I read it live on stream last December, and it took me a few hours to get through the whole thing. And it's free online, or you can pick up a copy at your local library, or you can probably find 100 audio books by all the classically trained Shakespearean actors (<- this is an assumption).
Anyway, I also love The Muppets version, definitely one of my favorite ones ever! They've got a lot of good bits and definitely land the spirit of the story extremely well, and stay fairly accurate. The casting is dead on (Marley & Marley my beloveds) and the music is spectacular! But we don't need to diss the book to sing praises of the Muppets version~
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callmearcturus · 2 years ago
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i'm gonna make this its own post so its rebloggable w/o baggage
do you wish you had more X fic/art in a fandom? do you not like the current vibe of the fanworks being made? do you want to bring back an old trend you liked?
i have a three step guide:
ONE: Are you commenting on the current fics that are doing that? Are you reblogging the art that is the vibe you like? Are you supporting the people who are making the stuff you want to see?
When people are encouraged, they may make more! When other people see encouragement for an idea, they might join in!
NOTE: If you leave a comment along the lines of "oh man i'm so glad to see X, i'm tired of Y" you are going to do more harm than good. I have talked to a lot of writers about this and we all unanimous feel fucking uncomfortable when someone uplifts our stuff while dissing someone else. Like, oof, just don't.
TWO: Just start hyping the idea! Talk about how cool it would be! Do off the cuff idea jams! Shout about it!
I'm in the whomstve fandom and someone planted the idea of following Hot Karkat Summer with Spooky Jake Autumn, and so I am just reblogging and cheering people on, and cool art and fic is happening! Because people like positive feedback and the feeling of doing something as a community! It's sometimes that easy! After you have already supported the ppl doing the thing, make a space for more people to do the thing!
THREE: do the damn thing yourself!
I very very frequently say this and I will continue to say it: You have to make the things you want to see in fandom. Pick up the pencil and draw the thing! Open a doc and write the thing!
Because the truth is negativity and complaining has never encouraged people to create. It just Does Not Work. You have to support your fellow fans or you gotta roll up your sleeves. But the moment you go from "I wanna see more X" to "I wish people did less Y and more X, because Y sucks/is overdone," you've already lost.
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I intended to reblog this nonsense but I don't want to have drama with them. So, I will make some memes tomorrow about this post because the "JC has no choice" excuse is getting on my nerve. Funny that this person think JGY was incapable of telling the hard truths because he was the master of manipulation and decieve; thus, his comments about JC's involvement in WWX's must be fault, LOL. Bruh, a mastermind manipulators knew how to use both truths and lies mess other peoples' minds. And the fact, JC reacted strongly to JGY's diss proving that JGY was right. Even the grape boi realized that too, he did not use the only favor he gave WWX to guilt trip WWX again at the end.
Also, I hope this person never pursuit political careers if they keep deluding themselves that Yunmang Jiangs in post-war was weak, poor, powerless and at stake. (The war loots, war hero reputations, more disciples wanting to join the Jiangs clan, thanks to WWX's one-man army?)
Also, since when 21 years-old is still a teenager? And saving the innocents and paying debts were "in the wrong" too? Sound like this person agreed with the corrupted cultivation world.
Lol it won't make a difference. They don't have the reading comprehension or critical thinking to understand it. And who would want to suffer through any more of that rhetoric. oof. All this time in fandom and they still can't understand WWX wasn't adopted and he wasn't jc's brother. He was his martial brother. He had other martial "brothers" before the defection. Not to mention the "jiAng cheng WaSh ahh TeeNUHAGEHH" lol. WWX and jc are the same age. WWX is 20 during the Phoenix Mountain Hunt. jc isn't a teenager. He didn't speak up for the Wens because he's a sheep and a petty, basic, jealous bitch who didn't give a fuck about repaying his own debts while demanding WWX serve him for life. Guess that sounds bad tho. They gotta infantilize the shit out of him bc they're too weak to just stan him as he is. Just another basic, privileged asshole. All these ppl do is fill fandom with their whiny, melodramatic, victim mentality nonsense. jc not helping the Wens and isolating WWX is easier ofc; jc takes the selfish, easy road without helping others, nothing new there. But it's morally fucked up in universe. There's no way to rebrand that.
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aizenat · 8 months ago
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I’ll reblog you. Shut the fuck up. Rap does not exist in the same realm or with the same expectations and standards as pop. Therefore the reactions will be different.
The black ppl analyzing this shit are NOT the same ppl telling swifties to stfu about Taylor lyrics; that’s other white pop fans who just feel over saturated with Taylor. This is why conflating them is going to sound like you attacking Kendrick idiot. Because the people here for Kendrick don’t even check for Taylor. You’re not talking to the same ppl; you’re telling Black people analyzing someone you admit is a lyrical genius that we bullied yall for caring about Taylor when 1) no the fuck we didn’t and 2) oh what that means we have to stop talking about the diss so we can give billionaire pop princess more attention? Aww wah.
That’s why you’re getting the response you are. You’re making false equivalences, comparing apples to oranges, and then compare a positive response to a Black artist doing his art well to a white artist getting negative responses for a lack luster project. They are not the same but you’re making them so to compare them and that’s people’s problem.
Stfu for real and stay outta black folks business. You really made a situation about black people talking about our art and how it’s used and disrespected in the 20s to a whine session about Taylor. Grow up.
i need swifties to shut the fuck up about 'oh so kendrick's disses can be analyzed for hidden meanings but we can't do the same for taylor songs' yeah bc that's not isolated to kendrick. subliminals and entendres abound in rap. taylor swift songs are as deep as a puddle while youre wearing flip flops and your feet still arent wet
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calangkoh · 3 years ago
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Concept: 03 haters are not allowed to post or reblog gifsets of ANYTHING from the Fullmetal vs Flame episode. It's Manga and 03 canon, but NOT brotherhood canon~ Roy's miniskirt rant/joke?, "I love dogs", the fight itself, Hughes' displaying Elicia's giant photo... NONE of it. They HATE 03 and no one remembers anything from it, right?
oh yeah i get so annoyed when 03 hating fma fans participate with 03 content and memes like bro if youre gonna hate on 03 stop participating in 03 fma fandom CULTURE
fma wouldnt be what it is without 03, the fandom wouldnt be what it is without 03, fmab wouldnt exist without 03. 03 was a legend before fmab came along and overshadowed it. fma fandom ppl who diss 03 need to respect their fandom history
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minccinoocappuccino · 3 years ago
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What's the worst take you saw in this hell hole about a twst character?
Mmmm It’s hard to say that I've seen bad takes about characters and more like I’ve seen bad takes about one character only since I don’t go into tags or engage with the fandom outside of what's on my blogs or who talks to me first.
I won't message someone first to talk ….mutism
But If I had to say the worst take I’ve seen its’s def the Leona would treat a female mc better than a Male mc. I think it has a lot to do with ppl not understanding what respect means tbh.
Respecting women doesnt mean treating women better than men Respecting women doesnt mean worshiping a woman
And it feels like all the time someone says this for Leona this is what they mean. I’ve seen lots of Leona would change the way he behaves if he found out the Mc was a girl or Leona would start trying to make it up to them for the way he treated him when I don’t think he would at all.
I see a lot of ppl using the painting as a example of why Leona would do a complete turn for his character and act diff towards a Female Mc and It sit kinda odd with me since they never use his interactions with Eliza as also something to go off of. Leona had no preconceived notion about the painting before he was told about her so he was ready to treat her with respect while he did have one about Eliza and didn’t like her.
Leona already knows the MC we have interacted and talked to so he isnt going to change how he acts towards us now. Even when we first met him we stepped on his tail so right off the start he had an annoyance towards us Male or Female doesnt matter.
The respecting women thing doesnt mean women are always right or held above men as Ive seen ppl say he would. And this is one reason why I dont go into the Leona tag anymore that and other things
A lot of the stuff made in this fandom is made by women. The fandom is female dominated. I get that and respect that. That being said because it’s stuff by women for women it doesnt scratch my itch as a gay man. And thats ok! I dont expect everything to be made with me in mind or that ppl should cater to me and my interests. Most of my mutuals fall into this and I dont mind it. I like and reblog there stuff when I see it on my dash. I have no problem with this content at all.
But when I used to go into the tag it's all the content I would see so I dont go into the tag anymore and if i do its just to reblog the character fan art I see
This is nothing against the writers in the fandom who write femaleMC x canon there aloud to write what interest them and this isnt a call to action for the fandom to include more MaleMC in there stuff this is me just saying that content doesnt appeal to me I’ve tried to look at the BL tag but again most of it is by Women for Women and as a gay man its easy for me to tell when something is rep gay men or when it’s just for women to enjoy and again its just not my cup of tea so i dont look at it. I make my own MLM content and stay in my corner of the fandom.
I also don't want anyone to take this as an attack or a diss cus it's not. Its me just saying im not a fan of this kinda content i don't care if it's out there i just aint going to b looking at it
And if u r someone who writes Leona as acting diff towards a female Mc and thinks he would treat them way better than a Male Mc ur allowed to write or depict this but im also allowed to say i think its a shit take nothing against you just ur take
Sorry that this rambled on long sjsjjssjjsjjsjsj I dont usually state my opinion on things but this is sumthing i see a lot and i think its so stupid but to each there own ya know
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pinkpruneclodwolf · 3 years ago
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Doomscolled Into the Wrong Side of TWST—
TWST and the Audacity of Some of You Bitches.
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I think the reason I've been so inactive recently stems from me doomscrolling into a post complaining about people Headcanoning Vil as Trans or the entire Pomefiore dorm as GNC af.
Their post was basically: "Vil's character is effective as a cishet man but effeminate because the point of Chap 5 is fighting against the current and staying true to yourself."
But they turn around and say shit like—"anyone who does not view Twisted Wonderland in the same lens of a 'unrealistic progressive' more commonly 'expected' in Western cartoons are shunned"
What in hell's name is that supposed to mean???
First I'm gonna start off by saying that Vil being hc'ed as transfem, transmasc, nonbinary, demiboy, or just a plain ass white boy who wears makeup in his freetime and fears potatos won't change Vil fundamentally—he's a character in a game about fantastic mental breakdowns due to systems that they cannot control and can only find peace in themselves and support from their friends..
Many genderqueer ppl find him relatable bc being gnc is apart of his character, instead of it being just a one off thing— he doesn't view masculinity and femininity as two fucking boxes the whole human population has to fall into—and he isn't made fun of for it in the story as much. (Outspoken feminine coded people face more flak in fandoms)
You whining about people making him trans does nothing, changes nothing, isn't a new take, isn't hot,, just lackluster, and old as shit. I've seen too many posts that boil down to shit like this and have others cosign it— stop that shit, real talk.
Long story short Vil being hc'ed as genderqueer isn't gonna hurt you.
We also need to talk about how yall play in my face about East Asia being the monolith of purity especially in anime spaces—"anyone who does not view Twisted Wonderland in the same lens of a 'unrealistic progressive' more commonly 'expected' in Western cartoons are shunned"
Anime has always had the potential to portray BIPOC, Michiko and Hatchin, Yoshihiro Togashi been making trans characters ?????
So, what the hell does that mean exactly???
And the fact they used Yana being overworked as a shield to diss people who rightfully call out the racism and fetishism that is rampant in the game and fandom.
Like bro FAIRY GALA started off with Crowley rounding up Leona, Kalim, Jamil, and Ruggie and Malleus even says [botched quote] "fairies of pixie hollow want to feel exotic— the elegance of another country" as if Rook isn't from the same land of Leona why wasn't he selected hmmm?????
Some of yall definitions of fantasy exclude BIPOC and LGBTQIA+ and it shows every fucking day.
"The hunted become the hunter, oppressed become the oppressors, all in the name of equity and equality"
Bitch are you serious????
This is the same white supremacist logic that gets people fucking killed—so many people get killed just by that idea omfgg????
No matter how loud black people, poc, lgbtq people are let's not forget how long it took to get to that point, Civil rights movement isn't even in it's hundreds yet, Gay marriage across all 50 states is barely a decade old (legalized in 2015) , and trans people are constantly having their laws overwritten wtaf is wrong with some of yall?????
And the fact that it's reblogged as "this is important" bitch gtfooo leave, boooo brick brick brick im actually throwing bricks.
Yall play in my face like East Asia is a monolith of purity like they weren't out here murdering and colonizing like Britain was going out of fucking style, Manchuria, Taiwan, Korea don't ring fucking bells for you dimwits???
Ainu people are literally suffering from Linguistic Purism and colonialism as we speak.
Yall like East Asia because of how homogenous it is, and, I dare say how white it is, bc you wouldn't have to face bigotry affects BIPOC in a space where everyone looks like you and if they didn't you could get the free pass of bullying them because you "didn't know any better"
Yall excuse the bigotry of East Asia because "uwu they just don't understand"
They do.
They aren't fucking babies, yall infantilizing JP/East Asia is a form of fetishization in of itself.
They do know what the fuck they're doing and will keep doing it bc yall like to defend them vehemently so its why Korea can plagiarize black culture and get away with it, its why Korean idols can post themselves holding a racist caricature of a black person and smile knowing that their fans will defend them using that logic.
Go directly to hell with that "The hunted become the hunter, oppressed become the oppressors, all in the name of equity and equality"
Thats not how shit works at all this isn't some fucking animal kingdom where only the apex predator or the fucker who managed to overthrow the previous leader decides how the world works, touch some grass and realize you're a goddamned human, have some fucking decorum.
I swear humanity will never progress bc yall have zero imagination of what the world could be like if yall weren't assholes to a certain group of people.
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rathockey · 1 year ago
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a lot of ppl are rbing this talking about ai art (which yes! please check tags and let people know if they accidentally rb ai art!! this is not a diss against those tags at all!!!) but i made this post about the ai celeb images ive been seeing!! people fully reblogging things that say in the post that its ai!!! just bc its not „art“ (whatever that means to an ai) and is photorealistic doesnt make it ethical!!! the harm that could be done as ai gets better at creating these images (and as long as people keep generating them, it will get better) will only increase!!!
i just wanted to add this bc im seeing people who were/are against ai art rb these ai generated images of celebs in wacky situations! and im begging you to PLEASE stop. and if youre generating them it is your ethical duty to stop.
WHY DO I KEEP SEEING PEOPLE POSTING AND RBING AI IMAGES
STOP RIGHT NOW I MEAN IT DO NOT ENGAGE WITH AI OF ANY KIND I DONT CARE IF I SOUND LIKE AN OLD GUY YELLING ‚GET OFF MY LAWN‘ STOP IM WACKING YOU WITH A ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER
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petre-chose-violence · 3 years ago
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The crit they linked is @ enderspawn’s c!techno-critical tag.
Wait, do you mean the entire tag? Did this person went "Just read a book" on you? Like, literally they went "check out this ENTIRE TAG and maybe you'll change your mind" instead of referring to specific points and posts? Bruh. The only way this is not just an elaborate way to say "fuck off" is if the are enderspawn themselves, lmao, but even then it's a dick move
I, mean, I promised to diss these takes, so I'll do my best, but my endurance is not eternal so I will probably not cover the ENTIRE THING.
And to my followers - don't you fucking dare dogpile enderspawn. I know there is probably not enough of you to do that, and I know that a lot of you are reasonable ppl, but if I am wrong about that hear me out - please don’t do any personal attacks and stuff. That’s a no no. Don’t even go and mass disagree with their takes.
Also @ enderspawn, or someone they reblog takes from, if you are reading this, I don't want to start any beef and I have nothing against most of you personally (yet). If you want to respond to this in any way, go ahead. I’m all about having a debate with reasonable people and clowning on unreasonable ones so It’s a win-win for me either way. Also feel free to ignore this if you want, you are not obligated to talk to anybody on the internet. The reason I am doing this is because this anon asked for help, not any form of personal attack.
I am not linking any posts I am responding to because this is more of a c!Techno defense masterpost rather then a diss.
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Ok, formalities out of the way, lets go.
Doomsday Betrayal
So first we have a short take on how it’s wrong to frame Tommy’s betrayal on Doomsday as a betrayal because Techno did the same on Nov 16. This is funny because imagine if I turned it around and said that denying that Tommy’s betrayal is a betrayal while calling Nov 16 that is hypocritical (I actually might do that now). Newsflash - both of these are betrayal, and newflash 2 - an act of betrayal has no inherit moral vailue, it is given to it by context. Techno on Nov 16, Tommy on Doomsday, Quackity joining Pogtopia, Tubbo joining Pogtopia, Punz joining Tommy, Sam joining Tommy, Ranboo apologizing to Techno, Fundy and Niki going against L’manburg on Doomsday - All of these could be put under the “betrayal” umbrella and are good acts at the same time.
Also the difference between these specific examples is that Techno actually contributed to Pogtopia’s cause. /hj
Anyway my take is that Tommy’s betrayal was good for him and his mental health, reconnecting with Tubbo and all that. But, especially considering the circumstances such as being surrounded by enemies and not giving Techno his stuff back, it also was a huge dick move towards Techno and he has every right to be salty.
Also “Tommy apologized” to save his ass after being caught stealing from Techno. “Tommy feels guilty” Techno has no idea.
Technoblade uses his power over people
One of the hypocrisy takes, that for someone who doesn’t like tyranny techno too often uses his power over people to get things his way. Funny because Techno has zero power over people, he can’t even intimidate them properly, the only thing he has going for him is his fighting skill, and a couple of friends as of pretty recent.
Ok, but why using his fighting skills doesn’t make him a tyrant? Because he doesn’t benefit from it. He gets nothing out of destroying tyrannies - no wealth, no power. The only thing he gets from this is a giant neon sign that says “kill this if you want to be a government” over his head. He doesn’t even demand ppl to do something, he just wants them to not 1) be tyrants 2) threaten him, his friends, his pets. There is a difference.
Technoblade doesn’t feel remorse
Except when he does.
Technoblade teamed up with a tyrant and abuser (Dream)
Lol. Yea, Techno had no idea. Going from “Tommy is alone and afraid of an enemy that is much stronger then him in every way” to “Dream abused Tommy” is actually a giant leap to make. Tommy’s “I don’t know if he [Dream] is my friend” could give it away, but again, this just as well could be a complicated relationship.
Same about tyranny bit. For all Techno knows Dream is just some guy who everyone hates for some reason. Nobody ever bothered to tell him that he was a tyrant. “I am more of a president then you” kinda sus, but they were dissing Tubbo there.
And even without that this is a stupid argument because Techno would’ve destroyed L’mnaburg either way, Dre just happened to be offering his help at the time. I mean Tommy also teamed up with Dream for the Battle of the Lake, I don’t see any crit about that.
Holy fuck this is the same post and I am already tired I will return to this after a short break (probaly) in a form of a reblog.
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hey there :) so what i came here to tell you is that i am ab-so-lute-ly amazed, blown away, on my knees. pussy fiend is SUCH A GOOD FIC!!!!! i can't even begin to comprehend this level of greatness – the character development, the pace, the relationships, the dialogues (the banter!!?????). when i prepared myself to read it i first thought: "ok, here goes another fuckboy!donghyuck fanfic". not that those are necessarily bad but i often find them to be quite cliché without working donghyuck into the role (not that we really know him like really but from what we can gather about his personality) so that he becomes 2 dimensional instead of a unique character. but you, god, it was so so beautiful to read your characterisation of him, his little quirks and his softness underneath that constant teasing. and the mct oo. they tend to be quite 2 dimensional too and i mean i get it, writing reader x … fics doesn't give you that much room to really explore or even develop the character because you don't want to exclude anyone so it's easy to fall back on well-tried clichés but you made her a real character, someone i could genuinely cheer for and wish the best.
i don't mean to diss other writers by the way, i mean for one i read those fics, secondly people don't become great writers (or great at anything) over night, things take practice and you have to start somewhere which is already a very brave thing (because i, unfortunately, am one of those people who are so afraid of failure they don't start anything new rather than being bad at it) and also you don't have to be good at something to enjoy doing it and last but not least obviously writing reader x … isn't an inherently bad thing, some of the best fics (yours included) are reader x … fics. just wanted to make that clear.
back to the topic (cause i'm not finished yet …) i also loved jeno so much?????!!!! his cluelessness is so sweet especially when in the end he is not that clueless after all, just super chill which is even more sweet. that's actually the one thing i would have to complain about because i wanted to see more of him. he could literally be the best side character i have ever read (at least right now i can't think of one i love more) and i reeeeaaally want him as my roommate!!!!! living with him would be so chill but also so fun, gaaah
also because on your masterlist it says not to repost does that include reblogs? i'm not that familiar with tumblr language to be honest. from what i understand reblogs help posts gain more visibility which is what a lot of writers want (naturally) but i wanted to make sure before i do something you explicitly asked not to do
HI HI HELLO my answer is under the readmore and it’s in the indented text (you’ll see) but THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LOVELY ASK :D im so happy you liked my fic!!!!!
hey there :) so what i came here to tell you is that i am ab-so-lute-ly amazed, blown away, on my knees. pussy fiend is SUCH A GOOD FIC!!!!! i can't even begin to comprehend this level of greatness – the character development, the pace, the relationships, the dialogues (the banter!!?????).
EEEEE THANK YOU i do enjoy my dialogue and banter 😭😭😭 literally everything you just mentioned are my favorite parts when writing 😭😭😭
when i prepared myself to read it i first thought: "ok, here goes another fuckboy!donghyuck fanfic". not that those are necessarily bad but i often find them to be quite cliché without working donghyuck into the role (not that we really know him like really but from what we can gather about his personality) so that he becomes 2 dimensional instead of a unique character.
no i totally get you !! i am a fuckboy fic enthusiast personally bUT i do love a good like. fuckboy with feelings fic :D
but you, god, it was so so beautiful to read your characterisation of him, his little quirks and his softness underneath that constant teasing.
🥹🥹🥹 this emoji is so fitting right now omg PLS IM SO . SOFT I LOVE THIS I LOVE HEARING PPL LIKE MY WRITING ESP MY CHARACTERIZATION it means a lot to me bc i think abt it a lot when i’m writing !!!!
and the mct oo. they tend to be quite 2 dimensional too and i mean i get it, writing reader x … fics doesn't give you that much room to really explore or even develop the character because you don't want to exclude anyone so it's easy to fall back on well-tried clichés but you made her a real character, someone i could genuinely cheer for and wish the best.
no again i totally hear you i try to be inclusive visually in that the main character isn’t written to look a certain way and i try to make up for that by giving my main character a lot of personality !! like most of my main characters i am deeply fond of 😭😭😭
i don't mean to diss other writers by the way, i mean for one i read those fics, secondly people don't become great writers (or great at anything) over night, things take practice and you have to start somewhere which is already a very brave thing (because i, unfortunately, am one of those people who are so afraid of failure they don't start anything new rather than being bad at it) and also you don't have to be good at something to enjoy doing it and last but not least obviously writing reader x … isn't an inherently bad thing, some of the best fics (yours included) are reader x … fics. just wanted to make that clear.
(dw i totally get you bestie no worries!! writing isn’t easy you’re v right)
back to the topic (cause i'm not finished yet …) i also loved jeno so much?????!!!! his cluelessness is so sweet especially when in the end he is not that clueless after all, just super chill which is even more sweet. that's actually the one thing i would have to complain about because i wanted to see more of him. he could literally be the best side character i have ever read (at least right now i can't think of one i love more) and i reeeeaaally want him as my roommate!!!!! living with him would be so chill but also so fun, gaaah
SEE I LOVE JENO IN THIS FIC best guy friend jeno is just . a lovely thought to me and ooooh rly 🤔 more jeno you say 🤔 inchresting inchresting I LIKED HIM A LOT listen there aren’t many times where i leave out things but i have also never written a fic that’s almost 70k so . some like more small scenes def got left behind but he rly was so fun to write djfjdjjdd
also because on your masterlist it says not to repost does that include reblogs? i'm not that familiar with tumblr language to be honest. from what i understand reblogs help posts gain more visibility which is what a lot of writers want (naturally) but i wanted to make sure before i do something you explicitly asked not to do
OH no that doesn’t include reblogs! reposting is when someone copies and pastes my work into a new post for any reason :D reblogs are very fine and even encouraged!! thank you for asking 🥺🥺🥺
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420pogpills · 4 years ago
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I’m sorry but the statement “Quackity treats everyone the same” could not be more wrong. there’s a Reason why that man is friends with Everyone and it’s because he’s so good at adapting his humor to different ppl/situations. you don’t see him tease techno the way he teases bbh, he didn’t roast sykunno in mad verse city the way roasts karl, he doesn’t joke around with ranboo the same way he jokes with Tommy. with dream, I feel like he knows that he kind of fits in this role of antagonizing [1/2]
cont: younger sibling, and he chooses to play into that. neither dream nor q pull any punches when it comes to mvcity. if someone’s dissing him, q’s not going to back down. the diff is that q laughs jokes off and doesn’t let them affect him whereas dream takes them to heart, gets upset (and v salty). so if dream is truly hurt they either need to have a convo where they both agree to stop going at each other, or dream needs to learn how to hold his own against q and roll with the jokes, lmao. [2/2]
umm who said quackity treats everyone the same? did i say that? i can’t remember but i don’t think i would say that because i definitely don’t think that. was it something i reblogged? i feel like i answered so many asks about this today that i don’t even remember what i’ve said anymore
[edit: another anon pointed it out - i did indeed say that but just worded myself terribly lmao sorry about that, this is what i meant]
i know quackity is really great at adapting to people, and you are right that he’s great at making friends with several kinds of people who couldn’t be more different to one another.
however i must disagree with that last part. ‘or dream needs to learn how to hold his own against q and roll with the jokes’ - i don’t think that’s right. dream shouldn’t have to adjust himself to someone and their jokes if those jokes make him uncomfortable. considering the fact that quackity and dream are still friends and appear in streams together all the time suggest to me that dream doesn’t really take it to heart as much as it may sometimes seem. 
but you have to remember that dream has confessed to having adhd, and adhd can have anywhere from a mild to an extremely severe effect on someone’s emotional state. a tiny thing can seem like a big thing, a small joke can seem like the biggest dig, a minor inconvenience can feel like you’re all alone in the world and nothing is going right for you. i don’t know how it is for dream, but it is that way for me at least. 
that and like i’ve said before, they are just people who aren’t perfect. just because someone stated their boundaries doesn’t mean that someone hasn’t crossed them, whether by accident or in the heat of the moment or whatever. i’m not saying that’s the case, just a possibility. like the jimmy jacobs stream - there is not a single doubt in my mind that boundaries were absolutely crossed and people were upset. maybe i’m wrong, but that’s how i felt about it. there was a lot of things that happened in that stream that felt very wrong and very toxic and just plain uncomfortable, and the vibe was absolutely awful at certain points. but i know there is enough love and respect between them that it didn’t really affect them massively, because they were seemingly back to normal the very next day.
my point is, it’s possible that dream doesn’t care about quackity’s jokes. it’s possible that he cares but has never pulled quackity up on it. it’s possible that he has and quackity still made uncomfortable jokes when he’s in a pop off mood. all we can do is just guess and form opinions. we aren’t friends with them so we have no way of knowing. but all i saw was dream acting totally fine, and then quackity made jokes about dream’s merch drama, until dream got quieter and quieter until he decided to leave. 
is it because he was upset? or was he just genuinely tired? we have no way of knowing :) so this is all just my own opinion at the end of the day. i trust there’s enough love and respect between them all, and we have no say in what they do, so this is all we can do. support them and keep watching them and continue to hope that everything stays good :)
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