#this is not a discourse post im just so fucking tired of these stans

[marurumai]

sometimes it feels like people forget their favs arent lottle children who can do no wrong, but grown ass men who made jokes about liking minor when an already delicate situation about that exact same topic was happening all while saying that they're handling it legally.

[poughkeepsies]

I'm sorry you had to see a take that didn't make sense. I feel like since the epicness of bi buck the fandom has had a rift and is just like a headless chicken that is running into wall. While it's hilarious how many jokes and memes came out of it (the screaming "buck" from eddie still my favorite thing) and also all the love for Buck and Oliver still makes me emotional, we unfortunatly have had people having not so great reactions. Sure it's out of hurt cause some wanted Eddie and never Tommy (I'm a buddie Stan but Tommy is perfect for baby bi buck's first step like I can't think of a better way of to handle this from the show, and here I go being emotional again) some protect themselves from the possible pain that buddie won't happen cause to them that's as far as the show will come to it. But still sucks, and I'm sorry it happened to you cause between your posts and your tags you have been part of the amazing ride that this moment has given us so im sorry you had to wake up at 7 to shitty takes and hope your day gets brighter and brighter!

that's so sweet of you to say and yeah I mean there's certainly been a lot of discourse all over the place but I will say I'm so glad im on tumblr we're all mostly having the absolute most fun on here (I mean there's still discourse bit I feel like it's a lot less than other platforms, unless my dash is just particularly curated). the take I saw was actually from an ofmd fan on twt bragging that they're so glad their show had "natural representation" from the beginning that wasn't "showy" or felt like the creators going "HEY THIS IS GAY!!!". This take is of course so fucking stupid that I would like to take op and shove them into a sewer but I am simply too tired to point out all the reasons why

[kurtmustdie]

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Carrd Hey there, friendly neighborhood idiot here to introduce himself B) this looks best on a darker mode btw

✯ Basic Info:

Hey! My name is Ash, I go by he/they/cat/ghost/vamp pronouns (I don't really mind if you use some over others). I'm a minor so uh,, don't be sketchy. I'm trans. super cool. also neurodivergent. awesome. I'm an artist, a casual furry, and worst of all... emo. I'm so sorry. /j

Putting the reading thing so it isn't too big of a post, pls keep reading!!

✯ DNI (DO NOT INTERACT):

Homophobes, transphobes, racists, antisemites, misogynists, TERFS (Trans Exclusionary Radical "Feminists"), SWERFS (Sxx Worker Exclusionary Radical "Feminists"). All of that sort. I don't put up with that shit. also Anti-furs, like can you guys just not for a second

LGBTQ+ Exclusionists. I'm an inclusionist. stay mad.

Harry Potter stans. You can be a casual enjoyer and interact idc but if it's all you post about I might block you.

If you're just looking to pick a fight... just don't. its tiring for everyone.

If I've specifically told you to fuck off.

Proshippers, Comshippers, and, get this, Anti-shippers. Your guy's discourse stresses me out dont bring me into that 😭

MAPs/ZOOs/Anyone who supports those. Please get help.

NSFW Blogs because I am baby.

if you have an nft pfp I will just straight up block you.

✯ What to Expect from this Blog:

Art. Lots and lots of art. mostly of OCs and characters that I my brain decides are the only thing worth focusing on <3

ON THE TOPIC OF ART: My art might contain triggering subjects such as blood, slight gore, bright colors (and effects that may cause eyestrain), Violence, animal violence, and implications or themes of s/h sui. I am not making light of said topics, art is art. I will properly trigger warning said art when needed, dw :D

Random text posts usually pertaining to fandom or just general thoughts or events I experience. I might rant here and there. who knows :3

Lots and lots of gay people (I wish they were real /j)

Catsss im a cat person

Other people's art I wanna promote :D

The occasional comment about politics, it's once in a blue moon so dw about it.

edits... perhaps....

Warrior Cats AUs for like,,, everything..

Overall just whatever I want because no one can stop me >:]

✯ FANDOMS IM IN!!

Spiderverse (I am unfortunately a Miguel O'Hara fan, but Hobie is better let's make that clear.)

Warrior Cats (I was introduced to it at the age of 9. I will never be the same.)

Wings of Fire (kind of i dont actually talk about it too much)

My Chemical Romance (also intruduced at the age of 9. I will never ever be the same.)

Gerard Way (His solo music and Comics, love him to death /p)

The Stolen Hope

Cookie Run: Kingdom (kind of... I'm falling out just a tad. Affogato Cookie deniers dni /j)

Sanrio (kind of)

Monster High (kind of)

Umbrella Academy

True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys

✯ Favorite Music!!

My Chemical Romance

Gerard Way

Rebzyyx

The Cure

Foo Fighters

Green Day

Paramore

AJR

Evanescence

Jon Bellion

Glass Animals

C418

Lemon Demon

Pierce the Veil

Radiohead

Tyler, the Creator (I'm just getting into his music, thank you Tik-Tok)

Fall Out Boy

The Smashing Pumpkins

Weezer (lol look its weezer blue)

Gorillaz

Lovejoy

Mitski

Rage Against the Machine

Taking Back Sunday

Jack Stauber

Billy Cobb

8-Bit Misfits

Måneskin

Mother Mother

TV Girl

The Killers

And many mooorreeee....

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What Lurks Beneath

The Exiled

Red Stars

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[sizzlingpatrolfox]

The hate has been getting so much worse since 2020 bc of the pandemic 😭 I'm suffering from this in every Fandom/community Im in im so triggered hsskksusjs. Lemme tell you about this : i Stan Harry styles and istg in the pandemic era it was like a breakthrough out of a psych ward, like im not kidding the amount of delusional larries that came out of it is astonishing. They've always been deranged and delusional but the New larries? 20000x worse. Like the amount of fucked up shuti see from accs made in 2020 is.. 💀 I'm an anime fan too and istg the anime community's toxicity went thru the roof from the pandemic and on, like I can't go anywhere without people arguing about fictional characters here and then likepls leave me alone 😭 BP vs armys discourse? 10000x worse now 💀 Even in the fitness community ISTG I can't post my body anywhere online without people telling me to stop body checking or how I'm triggering their anorexia?? I'm sorry what??? I'm born like this and I can't gain weight for the life of me Pls leave alone 😭 even the views of tkklives and subs of such channels went thru the roof since the pandemic...

Anyway sorry for the word vomit but I'm so frustrated it seems like the pandemic made everyone go crazy/more intense.. Maybe the lack of social life and interactions made people (specifically teens) lack common sense? Being chronically online is a disease istg

I don't have much to say about this but I still think it's really interesting. I've only been part of the BTS fandom since 2017, so I can't talk about other pockets of the internet. And I also had a somewhat difference experience of the pandemic, because for me while I did spend a lot of time online, I also cut off on my ~~fan activities. Mid April 2020 or something I realized I was fed up with everything. Everything was bullshit to me. It's funny you mentioned Harry because he was one of the victims of my "fuck this" phase lol. His lack of commitment to a cause, his neutrality and evasiness to everything was bullshit to me.

My first moments of "I'm so over BTS" actually happened that first half of 2020. Then dynamite happened, and I was back to enjoying their content for the most part but I didn't like some of the members anymore the way I did in 2019. From dynamite on my ~feelings about the group kept losing intensity. It was really a slow process that has been dragging on since 2020. A lot of bullshit happened after dynamite onwards, and I was so over accepting it all and settling for things that I wasn't really okay with, so it was just a matter of time until I grew completely tired of the group.

It's an observation that's limited, because it's only your life experience; but it's still a good observation. I think it makes sense that people with maybe personal/emotional issues that were heightened (or triggered) by the pandemic, turned to the internet as a venting tool and outlet for those issues.

[ziracona]

People really need to grasp the concept that people are allowed to talk about arcs, beats, writing choices, stories, and characters in the fandom tags and have negative, positive, and neutral feelings. Fandom is for discussing, not praising exclusively. Nobody is infringing on your rights by disliking Azula just block them they’re allowed to hate her if they like, you just have to deal. Just like if someone loves a character you despise, all you can do is block or deal. You can say whatever you want just do it on your blog instead of by reblogging posts by people who feel differently to argue—that’s what’s rude.

Do u think people need to ask the whole ATLA fandom if it’s ok to make a meme before drawing a comic making fun of Ozai for getting clowned on by Aang just in case one person in the fandom stans Ozai? No! People can make fun of Katara if they want! They’re idiots and wrong, because she’s a god, but they’re allowed to! People don’t only get to post opinions you explicitly agree with in fandom spaces—first of all its impossible to know and do that for you let alone everyone at once, second of all that’s entitled asshole shit. See something you don’t like? Unfollow, block! Feel like a character should be defended? Make your own fucking post! But don’t make your inability to regulate your emotions when you see an opinion you disagree with the problem of the complete stranger under no obligation to slavishly adhere to your opinions to keep you happy. NONE of you never say shit about characters, it’s just you think your opinions are the right ones so it’s okay when you talk about how X is vile but if anyone dislikes Y uh why the hell is it in the TV Show tags they’re an EVIL purist or something—no you’re just entitled and stupid!!! No one is right 100% of the time not even me! You don’t have to like or respect other people’s opinions or them but you have to respect their right to have those opinions, it’s not hard! Just block them like a normal person or keep scrolling! Not everyone will feel or think in ways you like and they are /allowed/ to exist so publicly, that’s just life; get used to it, and grow as a person, or get offline! Because if you don’t you’re going to become a fandom cyberbully and somehow think you’re the good guy the whole time.

[mariaiscrafting]

ngl, looking through the tweets under ramtwt selfie day are making me feel extremely hopeless and pissed off lmao

[outrunningthedark]

am i the only one sick to the back fucking teeth of seeing people scream misogyny when someone dislikes ana or taylor? because theyre the literal only two characters i ever see people causing discourse over but nbody screams racism or homophobia if you dont like athena/karen/hen

like wtf is it w ana/taylor stans that if you so much as say theyre not interesting youre suddenly a misogynist who doesnt deserve to be in the fandom??

like im sorry ones a complete bitch and the other is so 2d shes like a sheet of paper but how am i supposed to like them when i have characters like maddie, athena, karen, hen, mrs lee, sue, may and the others??

misogyny is hating a woman because shes a woman not hating her because shes a bad fucking character

I debated answering this because ~discourse~, but what the hell, right? I saw a post today throwing Shannon's name in the mix along with the other two and once again I am here to say that unless you grew up with a parent like Shannon Diaz, you will not understand why her characterization 1) was accurate and 2) was necessary. Yes, the feel-good story would have been for Shannon to redeem herself and finally learn to be the mother Christopher deserves, but that's not reality. Not every child, never mind every disabled child, is blessed with a mother who is happy to care for them even though it's more work than they bargained for. My mother would BE Shannon Diaz if she followed through on her plans to leave. Instead, I deal with her resentment day in and day out. (And before anyone attacks me for openly discussing my ~trauma~, please understand I'm too damn old to be embarrassed about the life I was given. I didn't choose to be physically disabled. My mother, however, had a choice in how she handled my disability.) Moving onto T*ylor: I'm pretty certain 98% of the fandom "hating" on Taylor identifies as part of the LGBTQ+ community (I know, like, two straight gals who aren't here for her???), so please consider the source(s) of this alleged misogyny. Maybe, just maybe, we're tired of forced het romances because they're safer than the alternative? Maybe, just maybe, we don't like her setting boundaries twice (and getting praised for it!), only to be *shocked* Buck didn't chase after her? Maybe, just maybe, we would rather T*ylor's screen time be devoted to the characters who barely get exposure as is? Y'no...Karen? Michael? David? The LGBTQ+ rep y'all love to hype up as a reason we don't NEED canon!Buddie? I also prefer more Eddie and Christopher scenes over T*ylor's news reports and "detective work", thanks. A*a: People are allowed to not fuck with this one if the fact that she's being portrayed by a FAKE LATINA pisses them off. I don't have to fuck with her because she was purposely written as ableist - something I am all too familiar with growing up around able-bodied people. You want to talk about ableism? I WISH my mother's biggest concern was me riding a fucking skateboard. I didn't learn how to use utensils until I was in either fourth or fifth grade because my parents thought I would (accidentally) injure myself. They never taught me how to tie my shoes, I figured it out from somebody else. I've been told I am never going to make it on my own and that I'm "not trying hard enough". Asking for help with my hair is asking for a fight because "you should be able to do this". Things are placed out of my reach and then when I need to ask for help I end up doing so more than once because someone doesn't feel like getting up. I'm not saying any of this to gain sympathy or attention. I'm saying this to make people understand that for somebody like me it's not as simple as "moving on" from what was said - and the fact that the writers never addressed it, whereas they took the time to "fix" Eddie's cringe-worthy moments... food for thought. A*a is one example of what it's like to be raised by an ableist parent who doesn't see beyond their kid's "limitations". I'm not Tina. I'm Tina with CP. And, while I'm on the subject, doesn't it say something about what Eddie must think of his gf that she's only been with Christopher while he's around as well? He hasn't awarded her the same level of trust as his dudebro bestie, that's for sure. If YOU don't have a problem with the female characters on the show that does not make you superior. It simply means you have no connection to the way in which they were/are portrayed and therefore your experiences cannot influence your perception. Consider yourself lucky for that.

[nickblaine]

Just saw that ask about OT, ran to see what he posted and MY JAW DROPPED. I am stunned, cannot believe a “professional” actor is acting this way. I thought I was overreacting about the “love or lust” post BUT NOPE IM DONE. I know about stan wars well - being part of another highly toxic, divisive music fandom - but I’ve NEVER seen any artist act this way. THIS IS CHILDISH.

it's childish and unprofessional and so very unnecessary.

after today i'm really done brushing off OT's behavior as endearing or funny. it was funny the first time. it was kinda funny the second time. now it's a pattern, and he's actively seeking out our content to stir up discourse. (check the tags on the original nickjunesource post. they have nothing to do with him. he put effort into FINDING our account and then making a whole anti post in retaliation.)

the problem i have with OT's shipping posts is that they aren't about Luke. he's not inviting discussion about his character or making any kind of point. he's just attacking Nick and questioning the people who like him because it gets the fans going. he's doing it to stir up buzz... except it's at our expense. and we're supposed to just... lighten up? not take it so seriously? chill out?

Osblaines have been taking shit from this fandom for too long and i'm tired of playing nice. we're not allowed to criticize OT. we're not allowed to criticize Luke or his relationship with June. we're not allowed to have fun. we're not allowed to post content in the main tags. we’re not allowed to post on reddit. we're not allowed to get angry. these are all the things i’ve seen people vagueposting, complaining, or straight up attacking us for. (i got receipts.) we're expected to go high while everyone else goes low, because we're the ToXiC sHiPpErS.

frankly, i'm done trying to win the acceptance of a fandom that hates us so much we were literally banned from the main subreddit and people are paid to write articles about how shitty we are for liking a character who ISN’T EVEN A VILLAIN. i'm done dancing around OT's manchild bullshit and Luke's even bigger manchild bullshit to appease all sides. i'm just fucking annoyed. let me be annoyed.

[kanohivolitakk]

ok so Im so fucking livid rn Im going to rant about my other fandm, but because I don’t want anyonefrom said fandom to find it (and because I kinda want this post to get engagement as I need comfort/advice rn and i feel you guys understand better if I explain with bionicle characters), I will replace all the names and contexts with Bionicle characters . That and it allows me to distance myself from the situation somewhat. Which I really need.

So like. Lets paint a scene for a second.

Lets say that, for all intents and purposes, I was fan of the Barraki (which I am, but that’s besides the point), and thirsted Pridak especially (which I also am, but that’s kinda besides the point). But lets also say that Bionicle tumblr REALLY, r e a l ly hated the Barraki, because they were so generic evil villains with not that much characterization and didn’t do that much. But not only that, . Let’s also say that a vast majority of Bionicle fandom consisted of two types of people: People who like Matoro and people who like Tuyet. And that the Tuyet fans were extremely hostile and pretended Tuyet was in the right. And they constantly shat on Matoro, Helryx and people who liked them. And the people who liked Matoro (and Helryx) got really upset and started demonizing all tuyet.

Lets also say that theres a huge subsect of people in the community who really, to the point they had their own tag where they criticized the series and its writing. Lets also say that most of those people had Matoro or Helryx as their fave. Also lets say that a lot of these people were among those who criticized the Barraki a lot and also the lore/story. Also lets say i was tired of all this discourse and only was in the fandom because I stanned the Barraki (Pridak especially) and because I really liked the lore.

So, lets imagine for a moment that there was a new canonical official Bionicle G1 story coming out. And I was looking forward to it because I wanted to see what they do with my faves.  But then I found out that this super “Matoro is the only well written character in Bionicle and his story-arc is the only good one,” crowd was like...really salty about it. To the point they made a whole tag about it sucking months before it was out. And went to it with the pre-conception that it would suck

Then the storys first few chapters are released as a teaser: and people seem to be better than expected. But then, roughly a week before its officially out it’s leaked and the hardcore “bionicle sucks actually except matoro” crowd would be FUMED, claiming a certain fanfavorite was character assassinated, that Tuyet was made into a mindless waifu to please people to the point Pridak uses her as some sort of living puppet in the finale and that Helryx writing was ruined. Lets also say for a good measure that Lewa acts more like Nidhiki and kills Helryx and that people are pissed off like that. And also apparently Takanuva was an advertised extra.

And just that + combined with how the hardcore Matoro stans sometimes say the series would be better without the Barraki and the lore stuff really sours me and makes me angry, esp since Pridak is a huge comfort character for me I spent a lot of hours headcanoning and speculating on. It makes me feeling wrong for excited of this new entry in a series I love dear, and furthermore it makes me feel that i’m wrong in enjoying the series the way i do and daring to think it has good writing. And that just makes me really drained out and tired of the whole thing, which was something I struggled with and only recently learned myself out of. It’s reached to the point I start regretting buying the entry in the first place, an entry I was frustrated not getting til midsummer

So yeah..that’s where I am at and it’s not pretty.

[americankimchi]

critical role for the fandom ask meme?

the first character i ever fell in love with: vax “in the darkness i say. FUCK.” ildan. also the escapade in i want to say like episode 4 or 5 when he and scanlan go undercover to throw a bucket of shit on an illithid and it fucking WORKED like...... when i say i fell in love right then and there,,,

a character that i used to love/like, but now do not: veth lmao yikes. also kash bc i have never seen anyone character assassinate their own character but i guess there’s a first time for everything

a ship that i used to love/like, but now do not: anything with caleb in it sans shadowgast bc i can and will carry this torch into the grave, beauyasha, fs in chat for percildan, molly ships in general, beaujester if only bc it makes me very bitter

my ultimate favorite character™: VAX’ILDAN LASTNAME I CARE YOU BITCH

prettiest character: vax’ildan and no i will not be taking questions at this time

my most hated character: sips tea. t*berius.

my OTP: vaxmore i’ll never fucking forget you

my NOTP: v/xleth..... cute concept, abyssmal execution. also w/dojest bc nah. kash/hra bc u cannot go from calling someone ur sister and then turn around and say that ur in a relationship like..... bro............ also widomauk bc it was cute at the beginning and then you couldn’t go two steps into fandom without knocking into a widomauk post/fic on ao3 and yeah. tiring.

favorite episode: when will anything make me feel the way 52/kill box made me feel...... oh the adrenaline in 79/thordak before the hiatus + vax’s lack of brain cells turned the fandom space into a warzone lololo

saddest death: idk man they were all kinda dramatically entertaining. i guess the saddest death was my interest in season 2 AYYYYYYYYY

favorite season: season 1 stans RISE

least favorite season: there’s only two right now so by elimination.....

character that everyone else in the fandom loves, but i hate: do people actually like veth anymore bc if they do then veth

my ‘you’re piece of trash, but you’re still a fave’ fave: can i answer vax for this one too bc honestly,,, if i can’t then uhhhh i guess essek

my ‘beautiful cinnamon roll who deserves better than this’ fave: pike bc the entire fandom slept on her. OH AND GROG TOO LIKE CAN WE PLEASE PUT SOME RESPECT ON THIS MAN. also jester bc she went from potentially interesting character to fodder for shipping discourse which....... rip lmao

my ‘this ship is wrong, nasty, and makes me want to cleanse my soul, but i still love it’ ship: god what even fits for this prompt. nothing comes to mind so im skippin this one lol.....

my ‘they’re kind of cute, and i lowkey ship them, but i’m not too invested’ ship: fjorester. can’t think of any other ships that i like but don’t really engage with.... fjord ships in general i guess hfgjkdhjfgkd i’m just really tired thinking about cr2 shipping in general

[mc-slowwalker]

hahahahha that’s funny lol (saying that the author of the common enemy fics is c!dream) but yeah common enemy definitely won’t fix the issues cause it’s the cycle of violence that they have to break and that definitely will not be fixed easily

woooo syndicate supremacy (I’ve finally learned how to spell syndicate correctly through our conversation lol) they’re definitely doing better than other people on the server and I love that for them! oh yeah either or both c!tommy and c!dream definitely need to reflect on the fact that they’re both make eachother worse. I absolutely loved how that fic handled that aspect of it because closure and freedom is exactly what I want for c!dream and c!tommy more than anything. yeah exactly!! which is why I don’t like the idea of c!dream dying either cause it just leaves everything unresolved. I doubt that’ll happen in canon tho

yea!! can’t wait for the angst! cc!wilbur just posted on reddit about ghostbur so we’ve already got some more of it 😔✌️which also reminds me that I’m sooo interested to see how c!dream is like once he’s out of prison because so much of the fandom believes different thing and there’s no way that he’s gonna be better or changed cause he’s had no opportunity to plus he’s been through terrible torture for so long and I can’t wait to see the effect of that. which also reminds me that I’ve seen lately that a lot of the fandom seems to think that c!dream was put in the prison as a punishment when it was less about that and more about the fact that he could revive people and that his last canon life would have been taken if not for that fact. a lot of the fandom says he deserves the prison but not the torture as a punishment but that’s not why he was put in the prison and if that was the case literally every other character would deserve the same punishment as well as they’re all characters that have done bad things. I feel like my typing is just getting more and more rambly and less and less well punctuated lol sorry

oh yeah those fandom rules definitely make sense. especially as someone who has been in online fandom spaces for like a long time and has seen all the tumblr discourse lol. like yeah those rules were actually not bad and don’t send death threats or harass people shouldn’t have to be said as much as it is in mcyttwt. I really do wish that the young people in this fandom realise that they’re allowed to just have fun and do what they like in fandom

I think that taking into account the fact that a character is a minor is definitely important I just disagree with the way that a lot of people use it as such a final argument that doesn’t leave room for discussion. yeah I’m the same like when I was younger I used to think I was so grown up but like I’m 18 now and I realise that that’s still so young even though at 18 I’m an adult. basically like the “child” argument is not so black and white either like instead of a defence I think it’s more something that should be taken into account when discussing a characters actions and I definitely agree with the characters you’ve added as people who that can be extended to. and yeah like in real life the minors would face soo many more consequences it’s kind of funny like everyone would but with it being such a prominent topic of discussion it’s funnier applying real life rules to dsmp is often so funny. I agree c!tommy should 100% pay taxes that would be hilarious

ooh yeah the three life system interesting cause at first glance you’d think it makes them worth less but evidently not and I do wonder how the characters see it. like you said with c!foolish and c!puffy it was traumatic to take a first life but for some it just seems as chances and the last life is what actually matters. who it’s against and also circumstance I think matters. I also tend to brush off c!tommy taking two of c!dream’s lives but I also tend to brush off the canon lives lost during the first l’manburg war as it was war and c!dteam and co were just better. I suppose I’m an everything but l’manburg apologist because of its foundations ig although I can still understand and acknowledge it’s importance to the characters such as c!tommy. I’ve seen it said that c!dream deserves prison because he took two of c!tommy’s canon, amongst other reasons of course, but so many other characters have taken canon lives and how do you determine the consequence of that in the dsmp cause in irl it’s very different and in the dsmp so far there really is no consequence for murder. like for example c!punz took two of c!wilburs canon lives (I stan him for that I’m a punz simp what can I say) and other characters have taken canon lives too. hmm I wonder what determined the severity of crimes on the dsmp cause the one character that’s in prison wasn’t actually put in there for his crimes.

hahahaha yeah I just can’t wait till we finally don’t have to reach that much

ahaha fair enough I just sometimes type too fast and autocorrect never seems to know what I want to say and I do not have the brain power to proof read a single thing I write. also I type out the asks in notes and after I sent the last one I was like damn that was really long and pasted it into pages to check. and oh my god this one is over a thousand words that’s like longer than one of essays I wrote for my philosophy final exam😭😭 I am so sorry

I will say though that I am quite enjoying this discussion cause it’s the most in depth discussion I’ve been able to have about this

I saw the angst wilbur put on reddit that mother fucker (affectionate) I actually have a rewlly weird relationship with wilbur’s meta lore. Things I accept: sally is a salmon, fridge mom, all the characters being morally gray. Things I don’t accept: whatever he was trying to do with character ages, also saying revivebur was straight when c!tommy saw him and quackity making out like nice try king. One of my biggest issues with the sever is that I get so easily attached to mobs/npcs in dream smp and they die so easy so Im always sobbing,,,, if anything happens to shroud, yogurt, michael (notchill), or fran I’ll mcfucking lose it

For c!dream getting out of prison I see there being only two routes: 1. he’s worse by a lot more evil more fucked up or 2. He’ll be actually too fucked up/tired/traumatized to do shit. Either of which is gonna hurt the sever so I’m looking forward to it personally

Other real life things I think should be implemented into dream smp: jury duty, required 3 life insurance, dentsits, and OSHA

I do think the rebellion against c!dream (in the final control room) is really interrsting in that c!tommy/c!punz was about to organize a bunch of the server against dream? I know c!tommy has amazing puppy eyes tm but c!punz was able to organize a big group of people, half of them didn’t really have that much against dream (other than the l’manburg people) and were only there on more vague terms. Like c!hbomb and c!ponk really didn’t have shit against dream but still helped in getting him into prison

I feel like we’re always gonna have to reach a little bit and oh shit 1,000 words? Bruh half my classes require that and I have yet to actually right that much. it’s way easier with stuff you’re passionate about and with all the content dream smp has gives way more to analyze

[starlightkenobi]

rant time, i apologize if this gets on anyones nerves but im fuming and this needs to be said:

i hate star wars twitter. i made a prequels / clone wars stan account and ive only been on swtwt for a week and im already fucking seething. people on stan twitter are actual CHILDREN. they are bored during quarantine and have nothing better to do so they go around fucking harassing other people for what they ship or who they stan. the biggest example i can think of is reylo. personally, i dont ship reylo. in fact, i really dislike reylo. but im not going to go around harassing other people for what they ship because its the mature thing to do. these god damn children on twitter need to put on their big boy pants and grow the fuck up because its absolute bullshit. you dont like that someone ships reylo? great. block them. then you dont have to see it anymore. i also want to make it clear that im not defending reylos either. if an anti is bothering you or posting something you dont like. cool. block them too. dont interact because for the love of GOD i am so tired of seeing all of this bullshit discourse on my timeline. i have really good irl friends who ship reylo, but im not going to attack them for it because liking a FICTIONAL ship does not define you as a person.

ANOTHER THING. you dont like kylo ren? awesome. do not come for the people who stan him, because we are not excusing his behavior (he manipulated rey and killed a bunch of people, yes i understand) but hes also a fictional character. need i remind you that anakin also killed a lot of people? a lot of children. yet we still stan anakin. anakin isnt a real person. stanning a star wars villian in a work of god damn fiction does not mean we excuse their behavior. i love all of the dark side characters, and even though this is probably a shock considering i dont write for him that often on this account, kylo is my favorite character. i understand that he did a lot of terrible things. i also understand that he is a fictional villain with the purpose of being the main antagonist. cool, now that we understand the difference between fiction and real life, we can move on with our lives. christ, grow up.

edit: this is why i like tumblr so much as opposed to twitter because that platform is just so toxic

[boncbroken-blog]

MOBILE RULES

rules are simple – sorry they’re so long-winded! But they’re important.

I’m Tea! They/Them non-binary 27 years old!

MUN = / = MUSE!!! HATE WILL BE DELETED.

If we aren’t Mutual’s, don’t like my starter calls, reblog open starters, or send ic asks. These are all reserved for mutuals only.  Anons are encouraged so long as they’re not hateful.

I am selective.  My muse comes and goes and this goes for threads too.  I’m slow as fuck lmao.  I’m also very slow at checking my followers, so if you’re a new follower and haven’t received a follow back it’ll probably take a while. But take note that I am not follow for follow.

I have a life outside of roleplay. I work full-time Monday - Friday, so i’m usually too tired to do much during the week.  Weekends are my only time off, so I try to get around to doing things then — but even then my activity can be spotty.  PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that just because i’m writing on the dash doesn’t mean i’m always up for ooc interactions.  I’m low energy a LOT, so socializing can be difficult for me.  If I don’t reply, it doesn’t mean I HATE YOU or that i’m IGNORING you.  I’m simply waiting to reply for when I have the energy to.

No password. I don’t send in passwords.

Smut probably won't happen here but who knows. lmao

On the note of SHIPPING.  Do NOT force ship. I’m 100% okay with shipping with OC’s.  All of my ships will take place in different universes.  No one is cheating on anyone… any attempt to create discourse over this will get you blocked. However, I am going to be VERY selective with who I ship with!

If I see you vagueblogging or posting a lot of drama I will either hardblock or unfollow.   don’t approach me about why I unfollowed, it’s usually for a good reason.  Guilt tripping is a no go either.  That’s not going to fly here.  Period.  If I see it on dash or in my DM’s you’ll be blocked.

Oc’s are cool. Multiverse and crossovers are cool.  But if I don’t know how our characters could interact or I’m unfamiliar with your characters universe I likely won’t follow back.  

If you are an OC, please have an about page I can easily find! If I cannot find an about page anywhere on your blog, I will not follow you back.  It can be DIFFICULT for me to interact with OC’s due to bad past experiences. But the easiest way to interact with me is to TALK to me, and plot with me. I have an easier time writing with people I can talk to!

No godmodding, infomodding. All that jaz. Respect me and I’ll respect you. Trim your posts.  I’m pretty chill.

Don’t follow me if you age characters up for smut, write smut with underage characters or you actively write or support student x teacher or child x adult ships. That’s nasty. Don’t be nasty.  Don’t interact with my posts either.

DO NOT FOLLOW ME if you are a Yandere stan/support the Yandere trope.  I have BPD, therefore I will not tolerate it.  It’s a toxic stereotype often correlated with my disorder and it’s incredibly damaging and overall problematic. On this note, I’m okay with Togas following me, but i’ll be picky with which ones I follow back.  If I see you romanticizing the Yandere trope/BPD/or anything else related to this topic you will be blocked.

On that note, do not follow me if you ship Twice and Toga.  I don’t care if you age her up, I don’t care if it’s ‘The legal age of consent in Japan’ It’s not an excuse for pedophillia. This should go along with the aforementioned rule of shipping children and adults together, but I feel the need to state it again. If you see them as anything more than a brother/sister dynamic, BLOCK ME.

I will be very selective when following Endeavor blogs.  This also goes for Mitsuki and Kotaro blogs.  It’s for my own comfort.

If you ever notice im interacting with someone who does any of the above, or are problematic, etc.  PLEASE LET ME KNOW PRIVATELY. I do my best to avoid blogs like this, but sometimes I miss them.

I have some triggers!

Child abuse - do not interact with me with anything of this nature unless it’s VAGUE (if you’re unsure about something PLEASE ASK).  Do not talk to me about anything of this nature ooc. Please.

Animal death/abuse

Creepypasta (mostly imagery like the horror faces/Jeff the killer type stuff. I’m okay with watching or reading it on my own time, but don’t bring it to me unexpectedly. Seeing it unexpectedly can mess with my anxiety)

FNAF

Alcohol (please tag any and all mentions)

Real life gore (mostly things like intestines and broken bones and deep wounds where the muscle is visible, etc. things of that nature.)

Religion and politics. Do not talk to me about these things unless it’s relevant to a PLOT or your character. Characters that are heavily influenced by religion or religious themes I likely will not follow.

I’ll add more when I can think of any but these are my major ones.

[lowkeysebastianstan]

hey there. I totally get your frustration with endgame and the ending. I wasn't happy and I'm not happy how half the fandom tells me/us how we have to look at it. how we have to accept it. how the actors are happy with it and so should we. how the writers/producers - okay, I'm gonna leave them out of this seeing neither of them have any idea what they have done in the first place. after all they disagree on everything in every interview since the release. and isn't that funny? (1/?)

how even they are not on one side with the movie? what I despise most right now when it comes to this movie and this fandom is how we are treated. how we should tag our “hate” - which I think is funny since I didn’t hate the movie entirely. I hated pieces of it, like I did with past movies. I never liked doctor strange and even back then people were allowed to mention how casting cumberbatch for the part wasn’t the smartest idea they had. (2/?)

people want us to be happy with an ending that doesn’t make sense to us and they appreciate and are “allowed” to shove down our throats with their happy posts about a perfect ending. how is taking tony’s life after he finally married pepper and got a daughter is perfect? how is sending steve back to peggy after they did everything in their power to convince us he moved on from his past life…how is that perfect? (3/?)

you can probably tell I’m bitter. I really am. there’s not a day that goes by I’m not frustrated with what we got after ten years and 22 movies. however, I thought to myself what would it give me to cling on to this on my blog. would it change anything? I do know I’m not alone. I see so many people agreeing with this anger and it gives me some sort of peace. at the end of the day, though, it’s also important to see what it gives to you. (4/?)

talking to one of my closest friends about it and voicing my frustration with the end helps me more than keep posting about it. because in the end it won’t change a thing. the longer I surround myself with the frustration and anger and everything that comes with this not being what I had hoped for the more it pushes me from the fandom. of course everyone do as they please and I get people who want to get it out of their system. (5/?)

but maybe sitting down and look at what the constant repeating will give you in the end, realizing where it might end, could help finding some kind of peace for you. I’d hope for you to enjoy the parts of the fandom that still apply to you. I really like your blog and you as a person and I’d hate to see one of my fave people on this site to leave (I lost count, but this is the last)

whew! hi right back, that was quite something. 

i feel ive answered this ask before, was that also you?

i mean, yeah. i know im not alone, i do. i see some of it on my dash, but not a lot, since ive had to block every marvel related tag just to keep from indulging in some light murder (just gentle ones, not to worry), and i really cannot fathom why ppl on the other side of the isle can’t do the same? or if you’re getting tired of the negativity? blacklist. or unfollow, block even. 

as ive said a few times lately, ive been here 6 years. and this is the first time ive aired my frustration in any noticeable way. sure there’s been a few occasions where i got the salt shaker out, but that was in relation to much more limited subjects, and it was a post or two at the most. 

ive been frustrated with previous movies too, but ive kept my trap shut, ive just gone on, kept my queue stocked, giffed the rare set and hid behind pretty solid content, no drama, not personality, no engagement. 

and it’s not too bad, to just be anonymous, to look at the pretty, spread the pretty, do the occasional tag rant, and let that be it. 

but.

when i came back after a long hiatus last autumn i started writing again. i posted a psa where i apologised for the fact that i would reblog my writing on this blog, i informed what tags i was gonna use, and for the first time i actually checked my follower count before and after. i lost 20 followers the first day. for posting writing. my writing. that was tagged to a ridiculous degree. and i saw a fair few more disappear before the exodus, and idk. i made me realise a thing or two.

one, people like my blog and the content i post

two, they’re only here for that content

three, to have a strictly themed blog will limit you horribly

four, my followers in general don’t give a shit about me, only about the content i post, which fair enough

five, i care about that, even if i don’t care about the follower count as such, i do care that the ones i have actually like me

six, which is completely absurd bc none of them knows me at all, i never show myself

but that was then. this is now. and the last weeks has made me realise the most important thing of all, i dont care any more. why the fuck should i? when my showing any kind of negativity about something that i did care a whole lot about but i no longer have?

endgame might have killed all my enthusiasm for the mcu, and it fucking hurts. it’s been a staple in my life for years, ive invested my time, my creativity, my love and my goddamn money, and ive got jack shit to show for it. i have a blog that i used to love, but is becoming alien to me, and that hurts too. ive invested a lot in this blog too, after i deleted a few of my other blogs a couple of years back, this is by far my biggest one. and im torn tbh. 

do i want to leave it? no, i don’t. can i go back? honestly? i doubt it. if my love for the mcu is gone, well so is bucky. and lets be real, a sebastian stan blog with no bucky? i cannot really see it, can you?

but hey. ill make you a deal, all of you. ill ease up on the memes, i won’t stop bc i have a few scheduled, you guys blacklist or unfollow if you dont want to see them, and ill see about sprinkling in some sebastian content if i can find any i deem worth it. 

also i don’t have any close irl friends to air my frustrations with, everyone here loved this crap, and that’s not really the discourse im looking for. but im happy for you, it sounds nice :)

hope you’re having a great day! 

eta: i won’t leave btw. not unless the porn hub thing comes into fruition. just so you know, and if anyone cares. just sayin. 

eta2: also? the fact that i, or we, are complaining and being pissed at the movie, but the opposition are attacking us for doing that? instead of, again, fucking blacklist and leave us the fuck alone? yeah, doesn’t help with the bitter. if y’all are so threatened by our arguments, maybe you should reevaluate your own, seems you’re trying a bit too hard there. i don’t want to take enjoyment from anyone, i envy you too much for that, but ffs, just leave me the fuck alone to deal with it. (that’s not @ you, that’s to them)

eta3: and thank you for saying im someone you like. but see? ive been trolling you all, im terrible. and i expect you don’t like me as much now anyways. but thank you, it was nice to hear nevertheless.

[skamremakesfromhell]

I will never understand how skam italia got so popular that it somehow developed its own breed of stans outside of regular skam/Rm skam stans? Like i literally see other rm stan accounts othe twitter and tumblr complain about how obnoxious skam it stans are

so idk if you were really asking for a breakdown but i’ve been thinking about this a lot recently so im gonna ramble about it for a bit whoops

so it was always inevitable that the remakes would cause divisions within the skam fandom and i think that’s important to kept in mind. there were divisions when there was only the 1 show! the chaos of 8 was a given lol. so not only would there be people that preferred one remake over another but there was also the immediate division between fans of og who didn’t even wanna touch a remake with a 10 foot pole and og fans that were watching the remakes

so the first rounds of remakes start (skamfr, skamit, druck, and skamus) and there was a lot of excitement and disappointment happening because we were all excited for new content but simultaneously disappointed that the content wasn’t new enough. that s1 was the same exact story across them all. skam france came first and it really set the bar real low. it felt to many like a cheap copycat. it had some fun stuff here and there and the cast was doing a decent job but overall with the constant promise of “change” from the production/cast that never followed through a lot of people quickly got tired of it. by the time s1 was almost over druck and skam italia began to air and a little bit later skam austin starts. right here i think it’s important that s2 of skam france was airing for a majority of the time these others were on since s2 is the season that’s the most “either you love it or you hate it”

a number of people gave up on skamfr either not feeling it/refusing to watch s2/whatever and moved on to the other remakes. i think it’s really important to note that at this time skamit was the only version that was changing “william” in any substantial way. druck only changes at the very end and it’s only the fact that he apologized to kiki on his own but edoardo had been introducing small deliberate changes to his character throughout the season. this gained interest from both noorhelm fan and anti noorhelm people because it was new! and different! compared to the other version not changing much for this storyline and skamfr airing a basic copy of s2 this was an exciting development! it was something that intrigued more og fans

of course you have to remember that everyone thought all the remakes were gonna be terrible. they were all a lost cause from the very beginning. people that were enjoying the remakes were already having to be defensive against og fans who hated the remakes just for enjoying them. skamfr was already kinda a dud, skamus had too much hype and pressure on it since it was the one julie was working on to really live up to that, and druck was falling to the wayside from poor production decisions (going on break for a week within the first month without telling anyone ?!?? really ?!?) skamit s1 did seem to be the best produced, with some interesting character changes, and a nice aesthetic. it quickly became the one most people recommended to others. new person asks “which remake should i watch?” and the first answer would almost always be skamit. italians were all pleasantly surprised by the show which made them want to spread it even more. like “look finally some good italian television!” the actors are good and not super overdramatic! the shots are nice and pretty! everyone on the cast is so pretty! rome is so pretty!

but what made this turn into the skamit fans being their own “separate” fandom? well if you go back through all the #discourse you can see all the number of time skamit fans have had to defend the fact that they liked skamit and that in itself will limit you down to the kind of people are always on the defense. who feel like they have to talk about all the great amazing things to feel validated in liking what they like because people are out there criticizing it. who either don’t care about issues people raise or don’t want to think about it. “why can’t everyone leave us alone” “if you don’t like don’t watch” “this is how italy is and you’re the problem for not understanding that”. the casting of sana caused a lot of people to call out skamit and condemn it as “problematic” and/or refuse to watch it before it even aired. now i believe those people are well within their right to do that. if something like this about a show upsets you you don’t owe it to anybody to watch it. but what this caused was people that wanted to watch skamit/enjoyed it felt the need to dismiss the issues raised by other people in the fandom. this is because 1) people were attacking them for liking skamit and 2) it’s become the culture of fandoms to demand you only enjoy things that meet an incredibly high moral ground and you have to constantly prove that the media you enjoy does that. which is such a disservice to being media literate honestly. and this kept happening. the racist, fatphobic comments, the excuse from the production about sana’s casting, the lack of any minority actors, the excluding of mahdi’s characters, the n-word being used and the mess that was the response from the cast and crew

it was one after another of things that made a number of people decided to not be a fan of skamit anymore and once they’d decided that any new thing that came out just proved to them that they were right! that skamit was racist and they were right for dropping it! but that doesn’t just end there because then it becomes anyone that supports skamit is racist and doesn’t deserve respect. and while all this is happening as every new thing happens and we all argue again about who is the most “morally superior” the fans of skamit are stepping on the toes of anyone that dares to criticize the show. they are defensive because they feel like their character is being attacked. because they feel like they have to be. and so ideologies are clashing all over the place over what is and isn’t racist, what’s good representation, what’s the importance of representation over “realism”, how realistic is skam really, you have muslims saying sana’s casting is disgraceful and muslims saying they don’t mind it, people of color saying it’s bad that there are no pocs and that sana is whitewashed and other people of color saying this isn’t a big deal because it’s realistic for italy, europeans claiming all the hate is coming from americans who live in a “us centric world” and don’t understand european views on race and europeans saying uh no i also think this is racist, italians saying this is just how italy is and italians calling all the racist stuff out. it’s just a ton of arguments that are difficult things to get people to see eye to eye on especially when it’s all over social media text and everyone feels like they have something to prove! prove the show they like is morally sound! prove they’re actually the most “woke”! prove and blame and defend and dog pile on everything! and no one is actually listening to each other because defending or shitting on a show is more important than remembering the humanity behind these arguments. remembering that there’s a person who you’re upsetting! who you are hurting because we’ve all invested too much of ourself in this!

it really bred this perfect space for back and forth arguments that went nowhere because people felt the need to tighten their hold on their own ideologies and to defend their position over any random comments they see. i’m guilty of doing this a number of times. i’ve seen a post in the skam tag and made my own post against it. i’ve seen comments on my post or people sub-blogging me and called them out to address it. this thing this show and all it’s versions are something we as fans all feel very strongly about. and this is really the only space we have to talk about it. to hash everything out. to post whatever thought we have. emotion run high! and with the anonymity of social media these arguments escalate so quickly!

i think it’s accurate to say that skamit fans are defensive. they feel like they have to be because they feel like the reasons they and the show they love are attacked are arbitrary reasons. they’ll dealt with so much criticism that any remark against skamit feels like another attack they need to defend themselves against. which has now created a culture where people are scared to say anything critical of skamit. that they’ll be deemed a hater and told “if you don’t like don’t watch”. but people don’t have to defend against every argument they see! they dont need to sit themselves on a high horse! anti skamit people are told to just leave and not bother with skamit but this goes both ways! skamit fans don’t have to address every criticism!

because of this back and forth that went no where we’ve created a culture where we can’t seem to even have discussions about the show anymore. about what we like/don’t like. what’s working and what’s not. that if you say “i don’t like this” you’ll get someone in your ask box basically saying “fuck you” because we attacked the people that wanted to enjoy the show it’s made them feel that everything is an attack. and this is a phenomenon you see across many fandoms! this morally superior hate-filled childish attacks. and at this point i don’t know if we can undo the damage that’s been done, both to how the fans of skamit view criticizers and how the people that aren’t fans view the fans. and that’s honestly really unfortunate

[monzterzack]

you know what im not even over with this shit

the whole trend of turning valid criticism into a hate mob by performatively progressive twitter users is fucked up and im tired of pretending it is not

the whole “lefttube is actually the actual enemy” movement just because they didnt catter to your specific leftist ideology while harassing regular people that by all means had good intentions was and is still fucked up!!

its not their fault you cant consume content critically and need everything to catter to your specific worldview or else they “deserve” the cancellation

Digging people’s past after they apologize countless times its not progressive or helpful, and i bet if we did the same to every single person forwarding the damn cancellation they would feel it to be unfair and in bad faith

and this entire cancellation also feels motivated as a gotcha replacement for that time yall didnt got to run contrapoints out of the platform (allegedly cause she also seems to have stop posting), seeing as a lot of the people cancelling her also jumped to harass lindsay ellis during this cancellation

and that is derranged! YALL ARE DERRANGED!!

the people having valid criticism didnt even got to talk about the issue because a bunch of (mostly white) angry people started to just dig in into the whole thing with bad faith!!

i hate every second of this happening, i hate how no one that wants to do leftist analisis videos gets to be an actual person because the environment on twitter is so fucking toxic

and dont think i dont remember how you treated natalie and abigail during the entire “contrapoints” situation and then pretend like that shit didnt happen when abigail came out as trans

i remember the vile horrible things everyone said, and i remember been also swept by the movement and saying such awful remarks about her before coming out, something i wont ever forgive myself from doing

this sucks, every person continuing this damn harassment sucks! you are not the heroes you are literally the damn villains and i dont give a shit about your high horses!!

im actually glad i got out of “progressive” discourse twitter, because a lot of people there lack empathy and they dont truly care about marginalized people, they only care about being right

ill take a poorly worded good faithed person messing up than the fake progressive twitter stans that “always tweet the correct things” everyday of the week

you all work on cathokic guilt and persecution, weaponizing “thought crimes” and making everyone feel like if they are not the perfect beacon of purity you all want then they arent worth shit

heyo, the whole harassment campaign about lindsay ellis driving her to quit youtube actually fucking pisses me off!!

like what the fuck people?!? you harass a woman over the stupid dragon movie!?! the DISNEY dragon movie that almost everyone agrees is not even that good?!? over just saying it shared similarities to the last airbender!?

twitter truly is a cesspool of idiocy and this truly makes me upset