This ask is really for you and angela both - what would’ve happened if nettle was conceived much earlier in the timeline, say during the basement era? How does having a biological kid together change the family dynamics, if at all? Does it make everything ten times worse or does it speedrun them into the contract era earlier? How does having a sibling alter briar’s experience of growing up? and most importantly are the kids able to unionize
oh what a lovely scenario. This would inflict such psychic damage on everyone involved.
There’s another question implicit here, which is, do they keep it. Sam, despite the various and sundry violations to Dream’s autonomy he commits on a daily basis, would not force Dream to terminate the pregnancy, nor to keep it if Dream insisted he didn’t want it. He’s pro-choice, he’s a liberal, #Trust. No matter what, though, they’re both torn. Sam loves the idea of this child of his already, even though he truly can’t handle the idea that it’s also Dream’s. Dream doesn’t, but he does like the idea of something to hold over Sam: nine months of good treatment, for a start, and possibly future concessions to be extracted. He’s also afraid of giving Sam even more leverage. And of course, this would mean the cat’s out of the bag to Briar. Absolutely no one wants that!
Mostly, though, neither Sam nor Dream is anywhere NEAR ready to face the Ramifications of their, erm, “relationship” being anything other than an extension of prison sex—it’s a dirty secret, something that only exists after dark and without acknowledgment. Sam thinks of it as a shameful indulgence. Dream thinks of it as a twisted way to exercise power. They both think of it as a grimy concession to the reality of two lonely people stuck with only each other.
But let’s say Dream keeps it, and Dream has Nettle, when Briar is ten or eleven or so. The basic components are similar. Sam loves Nettle, Dream loves her as his child and also kind of hates her as Sam’s. Sam loves Nettle and he loves Briar, and his love for them both is an acceptable form of loving Dream.
Sam would try to keep Nettle away from Dream as much as possible, minimizing his corrupting influence, and then realize that raising a newborn AND raising an extremely hostile eleven year old AND keeping a guy in your basement is very difficult as a single dad. He’d be sort of forced to give Dream more privileges… but he’d resent the hell out of Dream for it. Things are on a permanent knife’s edge. Briar’s resentment and sleep deprivation don’t help.
Briar would be very, VERY upset at both Dream and Sam. He’d feel supplanted and replaced and unable to understand why and how this has happened. Why is his mom sleeping with the enemy? When Dream sat him down to try to explain things, he said Sam didn’t force him into anything, but that’s so stupid when Dream isn’t even allowed to eat without Sam’s say-so! The lines of what Briar is supposed to hate Sam for and what he isn’t get so confusing so fast. He’s too young for this mess.
I think the kids don’t even have time to unionize because I think things fall apart rather quickly in this scenario. The helplessness of a newborn means that there’s more urgency from everybody. Sam wants to get her away from Dream; Dream wants to get her away from Sam; Briar wants to be anywhere but here. This is not a system at equilibrium. It’s radioactive, and it’s going to fly to pieces fast.
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Nut's pov . ( The start of the new trio )
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TAPOPS (Tracker and Protector of Power Spheras) is a group that is led and created by , dedicated to find and protect the that are scattered around the galaxy .
And being a member of the station .
The name is Nut and I'm a engineer in the station who have duty to maintaining the station , spaceships and also assisting the power spheras to able stay in the station .
As a non-fighter member I mostly backup to the members who go to the field that involve fighting combat and do researching on the planets !
Although, it will be a bit lonely on the station because it was rare that someone who can handle my passion on inventing new weapons and upgrade to their gears .
......Well , I admit that sometime I went a bit over broad on that sometime.
( For the record ,Nut have cause a few trouble for over doing on the tec that cause backfired ..... but also have the case that Nut's crazy idea worked and approve by the commander . )
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There's one thing that Nut enjoy during the lab .
" Hey ! Have you heard that Captain Kaizo's brother that just send to a solo mission ? "
" Your kidding ! "
" I'm not ! Captain Kaizo send him to a planet call earth ! "
Gossips that the cadets bring when they come to the lab .
" Say what is that kid's name again ? Pang ? "
" It's Fang . "
But sometimes-
" Oh- Fang . Let just say I personally don't like this kid , he probably have that mission because of he's captain's brother. I bet he didn't even have the chance if he wasn't . "
It wasn't a pleasant topic .
" Shhh! Quite down ! I don't want to get kill by the captain ! "
" Oh , it's fine Captain went to a mission ! So he wouldn't hear us ! "
" Besides , Captain didn't really show any affection towards him as if they are not siblings ! "
" But that's not a reason that you could just look down him ! "
" You- "
* Slam ! *
" Alright ! The upgrade have complete ! Now do I have to explain the new system that have installed ? "
Nut cut them off with the loud slam on the working table that he have place the finish product .
(For the galaxy shake can't they just quit it ? )
(It was obvious the one who keep bad mouthing Fang is jealous because they didn't get the chance to have a solo mission ! )
Nut is lowkey dislike that cadet , because he know Fang by heart .
He have help Fang to fix and maintain the perforation power mask before so Nut know Fang pretty well . He's a kid who have keep training hard to get his brother attention and achieve impressive skills . And captain Kaizo isn't someone that will use his title to let Fang to have that mission .
" Oh ! Thanks Nut ! I would like to hear - Um- how long is going to take ? No offense . "
" Well about a 30 minute ? And non taken , I understand . "
" Na ! I'll pass, just give back my tec now ! "
The cadet take the things and leave the lab , leaving Nut and the cadet who's still in there .
" I don't like them . "
" Same . Well then , I have installed the power up system . Now I'll teach you how to active and shut it , because it can't use in a long period time ."
" Alright , I'm all ears .....and I'll try to memories it . "
" Ha Ha ! Nut a problem ! So all you need to remember that- "
After that day , Captain Kaizo who have return the mission hand him the perforation power mask and order him to keep the mask in shape before he come back to the lab to reclaim it .
Nut is surprise and worry about Fang once he receive the mask , the mask is the only assist tool and weapon that Fang have used . Captain giving him the mask which mean that Kaizo let Fang wonder around the planet without any high tec that could protect himself .
Nut want to question the Captain but words stops at the throat as he receive a look from the captain .
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He hear the cadet that have listened Nut explanation receive a promotion because they perform some excellent achievement on the field with their new tec .
Glad to know that .
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"......How ? "
Nut look at Captain's almost destroy spaceship in the workshop .
Today the engineers get a order to repair the ship . According to the file ,Captain Kaizo when to earth to capture the criminal that have escape from the hospital .
If Nut didn't recall wrong his name is probably called " Ejo jo " but that does not explain the big hole and the gunfire marks on the ship and the training ground's floor have destroy and scattered some unknown stone(And food ?) shards, probably relate to the opponent's power . Not mention the ship's barrier system also all destroyed .
Welp ! This will be a long day.
But to the bright side maybe he can put some new things in the ship or even made it better ! While Nut is brainstorming ideas what to do , a familiar voice come form behind .
" Nut . "
It's Kaizo .
" Oh- Yes Captain ? "
" Repair this mask and keep it until I give further commands ."
Kaizo give Nut the broken mask to Nut .
Nut felt his panic start to arise .
Before Kaizo go to the earth he have reclaim the mask , Nut assume that Kaizo will give it back to Fang snice he probably will go to visit him who also at earth .
But......why is the mask got broken in such state ? What happened to the owner of the mask ?
Nut is hesitating on asking the Captain.
" Fang is fine , he just decide stay on earth now . "
" Oh-"
" Do your job and inform me once the ship have finish repair . "
" Yes , Captain ! "
Nut watch Kaizo leaving the workshop .
" Oh- Nut before you start- "
Kaizo stop his track and turn his face to Nut .
" If you want to install something that is not original on that ship , write a report to me first . After my approval then you can do whatever you want . "
" Yes , Captain ! "
Kaizo have leave the room .
Nut feel a bit sulk on he can't fully start his upgrade on the ship but he glad to heard Fang is doing good on the earth .
After all it's not pleasant to see the person who been using his tec before , leave the station without him knowing what happened to them .
......it even worse if that tec become someone's relict .
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" Have you hear ? Fang got promote to be Lance Corporal. "
" Oh I heard that ! He even got team up with Sai and Shielda now ! "
" Here ! The reparation are done ! "
" Thanks Nut ! "
" We'll buy you a meal later !"
Nut watch both new cadets leaves and lay on his chair as he let out a huge sigh .
Nut rubs his temples to ease the tiredness and pain, he haven't sleep probably for days . He have been remaking and amend the gear that will be suitable for them . It's not like he don't enjoy the fun during the process but he think he really should reconsider doing extra job that cost his beaty sleep .
" Dang , I should reschedule my time before I really pass out one day ."
" I agreed . "
" Hm ? Oh !-"
"Hi Fang, didn't see you there . "
" Hi Nut . "
" Congrats on your promotion ! "
" Thanks . "
" Do you need anything ? New upgrade ?-"
" Nah, I'll come back other day . It's not something urgent . "
" And plus you look like you really need to sleep . "
" ....... Thanks Fang ."
" ...... Hey , can I ask you something ? "
" Yes ? "
" How's life on earth ? "
" Oh ? "
" Well.......It's pretty fun. The food are delicious , the locals are nice although sometime they are harsh . The place I stay are peaceful and multi culture so I have learn over 3 language- "
" And I have made a bunch of friend- I mean literary there's 10 of them but 7 of them have identical looks , I have spend a long time to figure it out which is who . "
" Sounds cool ! "
" Yeah ! After all they get Abang's- I mean Captain Kaizo's approval ! "
" Captain Kaizo's ?!?! "
" Yeah ! After all we got beat up by him ( mentally and physically) ! "
" What ? You guys alright ???? "
" Yeah ! We win ! "
" That's even cooler ! "
" Of course ! Although....."
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" We damage the ship really bad ."
"......?"
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"...... !!!"
" So it was you guys- "
" In my defense , we thought he's going to kill us ! "
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Days later Nut receive a order by Captain Kaizo , to do a check up and upgrade a new ship . Only found of later it was a gift to Fang.
......Nut really don't get Captain sometime .
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" ...... The new recruits sure are something aren't they ? "
Nut look at Sai and Shielda' s damaged shields .
" I know that you guys got order to be part of the exam but I'm not expecting this . "
" Yeah , long story Nut . How long it's going to take ? "
" Give me 2 days . "
" Hm..... Oh ! Hey Sai ? I heard the new recruits are from earth right ? "
" Yep ! It appears that all of them are Fang's friends . They have some skills but it seems like they have a hard time to control their power . "
" Api is a case , he just went berserk after I tease him and his friend . "
"......Really ? "
" Alright ! I admit I went a bit over broad ! "
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Nut take a look on the exam footage to justify what kind of damage have made on the shields. For real , no jokes on the identical looks . How even Fang manage to tell apart ? But the faces look familiar, maybe he saw once in the library before ?
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Ok this is unexpected , he come to the lab and make a mess . The blue print look cool tho didn't expect woke him up , he look tired .
" Hm?- a blue leopard ????? "
(Ok this is cute . )
Nut chuckle at the reaction he have , he all look confused and sleepy .
" Hello, my name is Nut the engineer. "
" Mutt ????? A dog ?? Hybrid ??? "
" pff-"
Ok this person still didn't fully awake yet so don't laugh-
" Hm ? oh-"
Nut introduce himself again and learn that the person Infront him is call Cahaya , he look awkward during the conversation but slowly build up confidents when he share the idea that he's working on the blue print .
Nut gives some idea that Cahaya want to tried and Cahaya is interest how Nut fixes the power watches because his watch still didn't active yet .
Of course Nut agreed to help him , he seems like a person who can understand his passion and get along .
Maybe he made a friend ?
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" ......Care to explain ? "
" It was an accident-"
Fang look at the lab's celling that Nut and Cahaya stuck on , the chemical station that have fill with white sticky foam .
" I can get if one of your experiment went off but how do you guys end up there ????"
" Ha ha long story......"
30 minutes ago :
" Hmm~ the temperature is fine and the substant have become sticky . "
Cahaya is experimenting on the substants that he have made with the unknow ingredients that Daun grow in his green house and follow the formular on the book .
" Accord to the reaction , it's successfully enter to the 5th step , all it's left is wait for it to cool down and avoid any-"
" Cahaya check this out !- "
Nut barge in the lab with a new invention that he made . Which make Cahaya startle and slips the beaker fell on the ground-
" And when the substance touch the floor it explode , created a pile of foam instant and Nut who was holding the ..... "gravity bomb" got trigger and sent you guys to the celling . "
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" ......We need help . "
" .......*sigh*- Jari bayang ! "
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In somewhere on the station.
" Hey do you heard that explosion ?? "
" Oh, that's probably from the lab . "
" Nut mess up the lab again ? "
" I think is Cahaya this time . "
" Cahaya ? The new recruit from the earth ? "
" Yeah , he might not on the field yet but he have help to improve the station and cause some...... Um- trouble ?"
" ...... Nut 2.0 ? "
" ......Not really ????? "
" Fang always go check on them every single time when there's- "
" Explosion ? "
" Yeah ....... "
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( I don't have idea what name can use on this trio group . )
NUT!! NUT!!! Aww thats cute that nut and fang already knew each other
And now Nut and Cahaya are besties too! Their all besties!! Them sharing info and being sweet awwww
That does beg the question
What would be their trio name🤔
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This is an old topic, but one that will never die... unlike [REDACTED].
In the aftermath of og Lesson 16™, there's about a million ways things could go. Besides the lack of closure on the casually written and basically never mentioned again death, the more interesting part to me is the casually written and basically never mentioned again relationship to Lilith. I mean, yeah, it's probably the reason MC has more hidden power than Solomon, but the story doesn't ever focus on it. It's a plot device meant to tie the arc up neatly with a bow, not something we're supposed to dwell on... presumably because it can get potentially weird and uncomfortable if you do.
So naturally, imagining the possibilities and potential implications is one of my favorite things to do.
To that end, two of my favorite scenarios/plot bunnies/i-make-it-worse-before-i-fix-its that have spawned from this are (long blocks of text incoming):
MC (like me) either knew or had a very good idea they were related to Lilith by the time Barbatos and Diavolo showed up and spilled the beans... so they don't let them, for fear it would change their relationship with the brothers. At a subtle shake of the head, Diavolo understands and flips the story to "Barbatos has traced Lilith’s lineage all the way to the modern day, and discovered she has (at least) one surviving descendant." No names are named, Belphegor is convinced enough that his sister lead a happy life to let go of his grudge against humans, life should be good... except the brothers develop an obsession with finding Lilith’s descendant. Barbatos won't share any information for some reason, so they set to investigating themselves. And they NEVER stop talking about it. All the things they want to do with Lilith’s descendant, favorite places they want to go, things they want to show them... MC bites their tongue and smiles, saying they're sure Lilith’s descendant will love the new café. Privately, they're more certain than ever they made the right decision: without even having met Lilith’s descendant (or so they think), the brothers are acting as though their sister herself has come back from the dead, already making preparations based on her own likes and dislikes as if they're the same person. And more than that, isn't it rather hypocritical of the demons - who were acting so apathetic or even disdainful toward humans until just recently - to be putting one they've never met on a pedestal? Even Lucifer, who already knew Lilith survived, is thoroughly involved in the investigations now that his brothers are so invested. And then it slips, somehow, not that MC is Lilith’s descendant, but that MC has known who Lilith’s descendant was all this time they've been searching. All this time MC has been "helping" them search. And isn't that just a rock and a hard place.
MC is revealed to be Lilith’s descendant at the usual time and place. In the weeks that follow, however, between Belphegor’s cuddling up to them and the others' general merriment considering the death that just occurred, it starts to weigh on MC mentally that maybe they're so thrilled to have a piece of their sister back that nothing else matters to them. If only MC could do it all again... or could they? Sensing that things are not headed in a good direction right now, Barbatos agrees to send MC back in time again. But it's different this time: instead of having to avoid their past self, they are their past self, restarting the year as if everything up till now has just been a bad dream. It's a completely blank slate, with only MC's mind intact so they can avoid making the same mistakes. And it goes great... until MC learns that in this timeline, Barbatos is in jail, powers sealed, for messing with time without first consulting Diavolo. And moreover, for some reason, he refuses to share with the prince exactly what he did. So not only are any deaths permanent this time, but there's an ongoing investigation into conspiracies against the throne and student council during this crucial time of the exchange program. It's not long before both MC and the brothers discover - at the same time - that they already have pacts. Pacts that powerful demons have no recollection of making with an oddly knowledgeable human they barely know. And isn't that just a rock and a hard place.
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