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Quick Plug for I Will Turn Back This Time
A new Chinese BL produced in Hong Kong [ETA: or Singapore! Production info a bit confusing, thanks @guzhufuren] just started airing, and it's on Gaga for international fans, yay! It's six episodes total with the first out today, and I really enjoyed it. Some info on the premise (spoilers for basic story set up):
Shen Nan, our protagonist, meets Shi Wen when their parents get remarried to each other.
They are both adults and the four of them are not living as a family, so it's really not a stepbrothers story. The marriage is the device for the two leads to meet and not what the narrative is about.
The tone of this is more dramatic than comedic, but not too heavy. And they are using all your favorite tropes in the romance.
In this first episode they meet, get to know each other over several months, fall for each other, and then as Shi Wen runs to confess to Shen Nan, he gets hit and killed by a truck of doom.
This starts a time loop for Shen Nan, and presumably the rest of the show will be him attempting to prevent the accident and them falling in love repeatedly.
The overall production quality is pretty solid, it's a very interesting premise, the first episode was well paced, and the short episode order gives me hope they can manage the story well. There is cast crossover with Meet You at the Blossom. And it's just pretty cool to have another high quality BL from China that's actually accessible to us. I highly recommend joining the weekly watch for this one!
#i will turn back this time#i'll turn back this time#meet you at the blossom#chinese bl#shan shouts into the void
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okay, i don't wanna give spoilers, since you said you hadn't finished it, so.. first episode feels safe ??
fucking your cousin's is normal. it's a vault, there's limited selection. nobody blames you. but fucking your best friend.. well, that's a little much for lucy. not because your a girl. no, that's not- that has nothing to do with it, she promises. she just doesn't want to change your bond, that's all.
or super convoluted way to say lucy has a crush on you and refuses to admit it. mayb ?? idk if this makes sense sorry
also first ask i've sent that's not just conversation, so.. should probably put a name to my claim.
- 𦴠( if possible </3 )
ââ KISS ME ONCE, THEN KISS ME TWICE, THEN KISS ME ONCE AGAIN
â summary: you and lucy decide to âpracticeâ.
â warnings: friends to lovers. mostly fluff with some nsfw-ish content. so mdni.
the hum of the vaultâs fluorescent lights buzzes overhead, the sound so constant itâs easy to forget itâs there at all until everything else is silent.
you and lucy are sprawled on the bed in her quarters, your shoulders pressed together as you share the same faded book, its pages worn from years of careful reading. the vaultâs limited library doesnât get restocked, after all.
âyou ever think about whatâs out there?â you ask suddenly.
lucy doesnât look up from the pages, though her grip tightens slightly, the paper under her thumb crumbling. ânot really,â she lies.
âcome on!â you press, nudging her with your elbow. âyouâve never wondered what itâs like? the open sky, fresh airâŚâ
at that, she snorts. âfresh air? you know the stories! itâs nothing but radiation and monsters out there!â lucy flips the page, her eyes fixed on the paragraph in front of her.
you roll onto your side, propping yourself up on your elbow to look at her. âyou donât think everyone out there is bad. youâre too nice for that!â
she finally glances at you, her lips quirking into a small smile. âyou think iâm nice?â
âwell, of course,â you say, your tone teasing. âi mean, you could just tell me to shut it and read the book, but here we are!â
lucy laughs, a quiet, breathy sound, and looks back down at the book. she doesnât turn the page.
âokay, maybe i do think about it,â she admits after a moment.
it reminds you of childhood. of sitting in the quiet dark of the quarters, exchanging hushed secrets in the comfort of her presence.
âbut not the way you do! youâve got this wholeâŚâ she gestures vaguely, her eyes flicking back to yours. ââŚadventure thing in your head. like the outside worldâs just waiting for you to show up and save it single-handed!â
âand you donât?â
ânope.â she smiles. âi mean- eventually. once it is safe for all of us to return back. maybe our children will?â she clears her throat and nudges you with her shoulder. âanyway, why would i want to leave when Iâve got you around to drive me crazy?â
you grin, making a point of ignoring the way her words make your heart flutter. âlucky, lucky you!â
âdonât i know it?â she says, rolling her eyes, but her smile lingers, softer now.
the silence settles again, this time heavier with the book no longer her only focus. you donât notice but lucyâs eyes keep darting your way, her fingers fidgeting with the edge of the paper.
sheâs fighting a battle in her head. one sheâs been losing for weeks, maybe months.
lucyâs been told, more than once and by multiple sources, that making out with your cousin, for example, is normal. perhaps expected, even, just to have some sort experience secured.
but wanting you? her best friend ever since she can remember? thatâs something different. something that makes her palms sweat and her stomach twist in ways she canât explain whenever she tries to picture it.
âhey,â you say suddenly, pulling her out of her spiral. âare you okay?â
âyeah,â she says quickly, her voice too bright. âwhy wouldnât i be?â
âyouâre fidgeting,â you point out, reaching to still her hand.
the touch is light, casual even. something youâve done a hundred times before. but it feels different now, with pictures of your lips on hers flashing through her mind. lucy knows itâs not your fault. itâs hers. itâs always hers.
âiâm fine,â she insists, pulling her hand away and crossing her arms. âjustâŚtired, i suppose,â
you donât look convinced, but you let it go, lying back down and turning your attention to the book. lucy stays sitting up, her eyes on you instead of the page.
she shifts awkwardly, trying not to fidget again. you've started having that effect on her, and it's driving her crazy.
âyou know,â you say suddenly as if you'd been reading her mind. âpeople in the vault are always talking about how it's normal toâŚy'know, experiment?â
lucy's head jerks toward you so quickly it's a miracle she doesn't pull a muscle.
âexperiment?â
âyeah," you hum. âlike...with other peopleâŚeveryone says it's no big deal. âlimited options,' and all that!â
she swallows hard, her palms suddenly clammy again. âuh...sure,â she says, trying to sound disinterested. âi mean, that's just how it is, right? have to keep the gene pool going or whatever,â
now itâs your turn to snort. âi'm not talking about marriage and babies, lucy. i mean..." you trail off. âpractice.â
âpractice?â she echoes, her voice an octave too high, the words catching in her throat.
âfor when we do get married someday,â you clarify, like it's the most obvious thing in the world. there's a pause before you quickly add: ânot to each other, obviously,â
lucy feels like her brain is short-circuiting all over again. you can't just say things like that and expect her to function like a normal person. ârightâŚ.gee, of course not to each other!â she parrots.
you sit up fully now, visibly excited. âbut think about it! vault life does mean limited options, right? most people are already making out with their cousins to 'prepare for marriage!â you pull a face, the very idea making you wrinkle your nose in distaste.. âat least this way, we're...helping each other out. as friends!â âas friends,â lucy repeats, as if saying it out loud will make it true. âyouâŚyouâre serious?â her voice wavers, and itâs humiliating. god, why couldnât she just sound normal?
âwhy not?â you shrug. âit's not like it has to mean anything!â
she wants to tell you it already does. that it's meant something to her for as long as she can remember. that it could never not, when itâs with you.
but instead, she stammers, âi- i don't think-â
âoh, come on!â you tease, your grin widening. âwhat? are you scared?â
that does it. lucy always had a stubborn streak, and youâve learned exactly how to poke it.
âi'm not scared,â she insists, sitting up straighter.
âthen prove it!â
lucy freezes. the air between you charged with something she doesnât quite know how to name. every ounce of logic in her brain is screaming bad idea, but itâs drowned out by the overwhelming desire to close the space between you. just this once. ust for the sake of practice.
âthis is...for practice,â she says finally, the words shaky, as if sheâs reminding herself more than you.
âexactly.â your voice is soft now, steady. reassuring.
she hesitates for a heartbeat longer, her eyes searching yours for any sign that this is some cruel joke, a trap, a mistake. but all she sees is you: familiar and warm and impossibly close. before she can talk herself out of it, lucy leans in.
the kiss is tentative at first, her lips brushing yours with a softness that surprises even her. itâs careful, until you donât pull away. when you lean into her instead, it deepens. the warmth of your mouth sends a jolt through her entire body, a shiver that starts at the base of her spine and works its way up.
her hands hover uncertainly in the air before finding your shoulders and holding on for dear life. lucy senses you smiling against her lips, and feeling the curve of your mouth against her own sends her poor heart stumbling in her chest. stumbling, then falling. falling deeper than it ever has before.
your lips taste like the chapstick she applied on them earlier, reasoning that theyâd been looking a little too dry when -in reality- all she wanted was an excuse to get to see you from up close.
now, that same gloss smears against lucyâs own, leaving the faint taste of cherry in her mouth. she wants to taste of cherry everywhere, overcome with an unexplainable urge to drown in the flavor altogether: a sweet trail drawn slowly along the zipper of her vault jumpsuit. perhaps even lower, after, so that when youâll come back up to lucyâs mouth, youâll taste of her instead of cherries and sheâll get a taste of that, too.
when you are the one to pull back first, heat rushes to her cheeks. you're both breathing a little harder, the space between you buzzing with something electric.
âwell,â you begin, your tongue darting out to wet those lips. lucy finds herself watching, mesmerized. âthat wasn't so bad, was it?â
her heart is pounding so loudly she's sure you can hear it from where youâre sitting. âuh...no. not bad!â
you grin, leaning back on your hands like nothing monumental just happened.
âwe're definitely ready for marriage now,â you conclude, teasing.
later that night, after sheâs made sure that the doors to her room are locked, lucy slumps down into the comfort of her bed.
her pillow is still crumpled where you sat earlier.
when lucy presses it between her legs, her face in the bedsheets to stifle her sighs, she smells cherries.
the door to lucyâs quarters hisses shut behind you.
lucy stumbles backward, her lips already pressed to yours, her hands fumbling against the curve of your waist to steady herself. the room feels smaller than usual, the bed barely a few feet away.
âjustâŚpracticeâŚâ she murmurs between kisses, her voice breathless and a little shaky.
âexactly,â you whisper back, your lips brushing hers again before moving to her jaw.
lucy hums in agreement, though the way her hands tighten on your waist as your lips find her neck suggests sheâs not really thinking about marriage prep, potential husbands, or the repopulation anymore.
after that first kiss, something shifted between you. something neither of you could explain but could not resist either. what once was supposed to be casual, a vault-sanctioned form of bonding, a way to keep things ânormalâ in an environment that was anything but had turned into something way more the moment your lips touched hers that night in her quarters. ânormalâ went out the window then.
itâs become a familiar pattern over the last few weeks: a fleeting glance across the cafeteria, a brush of hands in the halls, a whispered promise to meet later when no oneâs around.
not that you ever talked about it. with all the rules in vault 33, the unspoken one between you both was the most important of all: keep it light, keep it safe. you never pushed further than kisses, never ventured beyond the safety of your blue and yellow vault suits. anything else would be too much, too real.
still, it didnât matter how many rules you set for yourselves; staying away wasnât an option. not anymore.
lucyâs back hits the edge of the bed, and she lets out a quiet laugh, her cheeks flushed. âweâre getting really good at this,â she teases.
you grin, leaning down to press another kiss to her lips. âweâre dedicated to the craft,â
her laugh softens into a sigh as you pull back slightly and she canât chase your mouth with hers, your foreheads touching.
âthis isnât weird, right?â she asks suddenly, her voice quieter now.
you tilt your head, brushing your nose against hers and drawing another chuckle from her. âweird?â
âyeah.â lucy swallows. âi mean, weâre best friends. and weâreâŚâ
âpracticing,â you finish for her.
âright,â she nods quickly. âpracticing!â
you donât say what youâre both thinking: that this doesnât feel like what it was supposed to be. that it never did, to begin with.
instead, you kiss her again, slow and deliberate, letting the moment stretch. lucyâs hands finally settle on your waist, pulling you closer as her nerves melt away.
all these weeks of making out under the disguise of practicing for a hypothetical marriage neither of you had ever shown any interest in had been good already. great, even. better than anything else youâve ever known. which truthfully isnât that much, but it still counts for something that youâre more than willing for lucy to be your first.
the only inconvenience to your little escapades would come later, after sneaking out of her room: the shameful feeling of your arousal, a stubborn reminder that you could not truly be casual about any of this.
still, leaving lucyâs quarters with your wetness pooling between your legs uncomfortably would always be worth having the little of her that you'd been granted.
perhaps one day, it would actually feel like enough. until then, you'll continue with the familiar pattern you've both fallen into. you'll let her touch you through the way too restrictive fabric and say a little prayer that, one of these days, she will go straight for the zipper instead.
#Ëđ Ě !! â my works#lucy maclean#lucy maclean x reader#lucy maclean x female reader#lucy maclean x fem!reader#lucy maclean x you#fallout#𦴠anon
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What are your thoughts on the last ep of under the skin...that cant be shen yi right...im seeing a lot of twin theories but thats a weird plot twist honestly đ
to answer this question i guess i have to get up off the floor first, where i have been lying facedown and motionless since uts2 ended over a week ago. two weeks ago? yesterday? today? i don't know anymore i've lost all track of time, who are you? where are we?
oh rightâthe s2 ending. you must mean this scene, right? what a great way to end things! du cheng, happy, walking to meet a group of friends at his birthday party! truly wrapped up the whole drama, and left us in such a heartwarming place with our favorite characters!
...oh you didn't mean that ending? you mean there's another one?
[mindless screaming behind the cut AS WELL AS SPOILERS]
[and this winds up being about all of s2 as well as the final tag, OOPS]
so okay listen before i can even address this without the mindless screaming, i have to level with y'all here: s2 was rough on me. there are only like three du cheng stans in all of anglophone cdrama fandom and i'm probably two of them ( @wannings-wontons is the other one, thank god for her). i've written eleventyleven fics from his pov so i am ferally protective of my big stupid hot cop son. this season put him through the goddamn wringer and for my taste there were just a few too many scenes of du cheng looking like he was about to burst into tears while shen yi was smiling winsomely, for all the world as if he were not the one personally causing his captain to experience devastating mortal agony. allow me to demonstrate.
in the driver's seat: unspeakable anguish. literally can't talk.
in the passenger seat: hey nice air conditioner! guess what i have a new friend! i spent the night at his place, talking about infinity and human potential! in a few more episodes he'll be a murder suspect!
(i'm getting to the cliffhanger, believe me i'm getting there, no really i am, we just have to spend a minute dealing with the divorce arc first)
because, while i absolutely adore angst bambi (as @whomst-art-thou-whomst-whomst has immortalized him), and thanks to @elenothar have firmly adopted him as a most beloved emotional support twink (not least because i suspect tan jianci is himself kind of a genius; no triple threat should be this good of an actor), i also honestly not infrequently this season wanted to drag shen yi into the men's room by his pretty hair and flush his pretty little head down the [redacted] until he came to his pretty little senses. because while later in the arc he clearly is, you know, attempting that deep-cover thing, and has to reject du cheng to his face, right in front of Evil Eugenicist Art Critic Weasel Man, in order to gain Weasel Moriarty's trust, etc.â
there are also a bunch of times when du cheng is visibly upset and miserable and in genuine pain, and shen yi just laughs. literally laughs at him. like tan jianci what are you doing, do you want the audience to dislike you? how are you trying to play this?? are we supposed to think, wow shen yi sure knows what he's doing? are we supposed to think he suddenly has the world's worst taste in men? because long before Weasel Man smashes a vase and snaps at his lab assistant and possibly kills someone and has assorted tantrums which start to tip off shen yi that maybe his new bestie is kind of a bag of dicksâlong before that starts happening? shen yi just likes that guy. he LIKES him. enough to quote whitman to him (fang kaiyi you take his queer name out your mouth); enough to stay up all night painting the stars with him and we don't know what all else. enough to hang out in his lab for days on end, listening to junk science and pretending to understand the human genome and just what. shen yi. WHAT. he's literally a Bond villain styled like an asymmetric reptileâall this, just because he's tall? and he's gone to the symphony a few times? what, because he negged your painting, and that turned you on? i shouldn't have said any of that, but i did; and now i refuse to take it back. because inside me are two wolves, and they sound like this:
one wolf has been extremely online for many years, and thinks she's very hip and chill and jaded. this wolf talks in memes and laughs at herself, and she's like: âhaha fun drama! Solving Crimes Through Art! lol i can't believe this turgid love song playing over a romantic montage, wow it's so stupid.â and also: âlmao divorce arc so hilarious, WELCOME HOME CHEATER lol get it, good joke right?â and: âoh my god why is there another pointless cliffhanger, they will NEVER GET a s3 what are they thinking. this scene is therefore not canon and can be safely ignored, just like the s1 tag turned out to be a ~~~dream."
but the other wolf is lying motionless in her barrow in the darkness flat on her stomach in mouldering leaves and mud head resting on crossed paws staring into the night with her old yellow eyes and she says they stabbed my son and left him alone in his blood and the last thing he saw was a cruel face worn by the boy he has come to love a boy standing at the end of the alley looking down at his phone who then moves past him and keeps on walking
and then, you know. then i lie on the floor for a week! which is fine, i'm an extremely psychologically healthy person who has certainly not at all outsourced her entire emotional well-being to an imaginary public safety bureau criminal investigator on the coast of southeast china.
so what do i think about the cliffhanger? here is what i think about it; and again, sorry for the hatchet job on shen yi but it was relevant:
1. i do think it's a dream, yes. they've already played that game with usâwe waited two years to find out who was carving up shen yi's creepy murder-red self-portrait and whomst should it be butâŚnobody! just shen yi having nightmares about his future fling, apparently. (notice, too, how fang kaiyi GRABBED that craft knife, which shen yi had deliberately left on the easel, and didn't even ask why it was there. he might be tall and elegant and have good taste but he's nowhere near as smart as you are, shen yi. do better.)
2. whose nightmare is it, though: shen yi's, or du cheng's? remember that the first time du cheng meets fang kaiyi, he tells shen yi, "he reminds me of someone: the old you." (and shen yi laughs merrily, even though nothing about that is funny, either the observation or du cheng's immediate mistrust and jealousy. TAN JIANCI WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING). then, later, on the precinct rooftop, after the case is all over, shen yi confesses yet again that there's something in him that's not altogether good, that he has quote "demons," and that if he hadn't met du cheng, he might have gone down some vague unspecified dark path. not quite sure how a portrait artist was gonna become a mass murderer or whatever, but okay i guess. there was something off about shen yi 1.0, and du cheng could see it even a decade ago and he didn't like it then any more than he does now.
given all that, then, the nightmare is probably shen yi's. he's prone to them anyway, and he knows now how badly he's hurt du cheng, and that he came dangerously close to, well, getting into bed with the enemy. i don't think it's even until fang kaiyi is so limpidly nonchalant about zhou shanshan's death that shen yi's inner moral compass comes shrieking back into play (and then it really does; shen yi who never raises his voice out there just shouting that man down).
there's one argument to be made for the case that it's du cheng's nightmare, though, which is the way that he looks up at the camera at the very end of the shot, and laughs. shen yi 1.0 is standing too far away for that to be his point-of-view. so who's standing over du cheng? and who would he laugh at, in recognition, like that? shen yi 2.0, presumably (or 3.5? not sure what version we're on anymore).
either way here's my final observation, and then i swear to god i'll shut up, before the shen yi stans come for me like maenads. i was chatting with @wannings-wontons and she said something that absolutely blindsided me, which is that the cliffhanger literalizes the arc of the series: shen yi did, in fact, metaphorically stab du cheng in s2. why else would either of them dream that? du cheng being badly, even fatally wounded by arrogant young artist shen yi is precisely what happened during the divorce arc. and their reconciliation was so heavily censored as to be, to some of us anyway, unpersuasive. (two cops, talking on a rooftop all night! five feet apart cause they're not gay!) as @wannings-wontons said: "the last scene just reflects how badly hurt he was. and we're left to decide whether he'll recover."
so which is worse, dreaming that your lover stabs you? or dreaming that something twisted inside you stabs the man you love?
tldr, shen yi doesn't need a soap opera evil twin: he's his own evil twin, and he knows this. and what is more, du cheng knows it now too. if there's ever a third season, which seems completely impossible to me, the writers have to know that they have NOT fixed this.
fortunately, we have something censored production companies don't have, and it's called fanfiction. so bring on the episode codas, my friends. bring on the long painful conversations and the shouted arguments (du cheng never even got to yell, except once in a parking lot because he was frantic). bring on the tender reconciliations that can only come after those blowout knock-down-drag-out fights, and are therefore real and grounded, not stilted, wooden, woefully inadequate mockeries of reunion. let people throw furniture and cry and try to explain and plead and confess and even, sure, why not, grab the other person and kiss him breathless, and say I don't want to do this without you, say don't put me through that ever again, say but this isn't enough and I need something different, say okay then let's figure that out together, say i'm sorry i hurt you, you're the most important person to me and that's the last thing i ever want to do.
it's up to us, not to leave them there in the alley like that. but the good news is if it's work, it's only work. and it's our work to do.
#under the skin 2#du cheng#shen yi#fang kaiyi#jin shijia#tan jianci#under the skin spoilers#under the skin meta#under the skin#ç罪ĺžé´#ç罪ĺžé´2#fanfiction fixes things
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2024 Writing Year in Review
tagged by @nix-nihili, thank you darling <3 this is gonna get long, buckle in!
January
the radiant university: the radiant emperor duology, ma/zhu, ouyang/esen
five people. five conversations. who will win this episode of the radiant university? (spoiler: it's wang baoxiang. everyone else is too busy making out.)
May
the ghost of the past that you live in: dead boy detectives, payneland
It didnât start as much. As anything, really. Charles noticed him in the hallways only because he was new, which was rare in Year 11, and because he smiled shyly whenever Charles said hi. Aysar, heâd introduced himself, and Charles liked the way the syllables formed in his mouth. He wanted to be Aysarâs friend. Or: Five boys Charles didn't date, and one he did.
June
2 dead 2 boys: dead boy detectives, cryland, payneland, palasaki
It had been pretty obvious to Crystal from the start: their closeness and comfort with each other, the way they moved in sync, the way Edwin couldnât quite contain his jealousy at Charlesâ interest in her. Sheâd seen it before (where?), a relationship that one person wanted open and the other didnât but would go along with, out of love. Ah, lack of communication. The enemy of polyamory. Or: Crystal comes to the horrifying realization that these boys are not dating, and leads them to enlightenment (polyamory).
take your chances (win or lose her): dead boy detectives, payneland, palasaki, charles & his mum
His dad was sitting in the living room â Charles ignored the instinct screaming at him to move away from Edwin â with his head in his hands. His mum wasnât visible. It shouldnât have been strange. Charles had seen both of them alone, at times, though rarely now as age caught up with them. But he and Edwin had been in the business too long to ignore bad feelings. They exchanged a glance, Edwinâs eyebrows beginning to furrow, and then Charlesâ dad shifted, and bright morning light caught on his red, red knuckles. Or: Maybe Charlesâ death was the wake-up call his dad needed to become a better man. Then again, maybe it wasnât.
touch my tears with your lips (touch my world with your fingertips): dead boy detectives, payneland
Over the years, their music collection grew, until a shelf for their records joined the shelves for their books. Edwin was proud to say that the acquisition of the record player had made their office more lively, ghosts though they were. He certainly enjoyed their dancing lessons. If Edwin noted Charlesâ quiet singing during this time, it was only to classify Charles as having enough musical talent to not clash horribly with the original singersâ voices. Some decades later, Edwin discovered the magnitude of his error. Or: Charles attempts to woo Edwin with the power of Queen.
July
if i could reach the stars (iâd give them all to you): dead boy detectives, payneland, palasaki
Loving Edwin was the easiest thing in the world. Charles got so used to it that he could sometimes go months without thinking about it, until Edwin did something kind or charming or literally just stood there catching the light in exactly the right way, and it would hit Charles all over again, like getting socked in the face. It certainly made for some interesting decades together. Or: Charles falls first. Edwin falls harder. Surprisingly little changes.
August
acu (aysar cinematic universe): dead boy detectives, payneland, palasaki
âWelcome to the Dead Boy Detective Agency, I am Edwin Payne. My partner should be returning shortly. Why donât you tell me about your case?â âYes, of course,â said the client, perfectly politely. âI am seeking justice. It was an incident that has haunted me, if you will excuse my wording, for years.â A pause. âI want justice for ââ âCharles Rowland, hi!â said Charles, already wincing at his own timing. He hadnât realised the ghost was winding up to the big reveal. Whoops. Or: A ghost from the past comes knocking. Charles gets justice; Edwin gets a hint.
September
(don't you) forget about me: dead boy detectives, payneland
Edwin returned to the envelope, from which his attention should never have veered, and opened it with a single, precise cut. The letter opener was returned to Charles â another brief, searing touch â as Edwin carefully removed and unfolded the glossy paper. The crest in the letterhead, a bloody wound against the white background, immediately caught his eye. âSt. Hilâs, innit?â Charles, leaning over Edwinâs shoulder, confirmed what they both knew. They exchanged a dark, speaking glance. No, neither of them had fond memories of that place. Or: Edwin attends his high school reunion and is very normal about his (legal) partner.
(black is the colour) of my true love's hair: dead boy detectives, payneland
âEdwin,â Charles said, one splendid morning. âDâyou notice anything different? About me?â With his face angled towards the window, Charles was lovingly lit by the morning sun, caught as it was on his forehead and cheeks and chin, limning the straight line of his nose and pooling in the depths of his dark eyes, lingering on his lips as if in a kiss. Beyond the light: the curve of his ear, his rather exquisite jawline, the glint of his earring and necklace, his bare shoulders, lean and strong, the curls of his hair just brushing them â Or: The boys spend a morning in the office; Charles has a lightbulb moment.
lovesick girls: dead boy detectives, palasaki
The thing was, the boys might tease Crystal about taking long to get ready, but she didnât, not really. And the few times she did, sheâd let you know beforehand. Niko checked her phone again. No new messages. A thought drifted into her mind like a dark cloud over the sun, taking all the brightness and warmth of the day with it. Crystal had told them stories from before she lost her memories, of the horrible things sheâd done to friends and strangers alike. (To warn them off, Niko and Edwin privately thought.) What if one such thing was asking out some loser, only to stand them up and go laugh behind their backs with some friends? What if itâd been a joke all along? Or: Niko doesnât quite get the first date she was expecting.
October
nectar, affection, truth: dead boy detectives, palasaki
if a girl looked at me like That i would simply perish Or: Art of the Look⢠from episode 8.
it was only a (demonic) kiss: dead boy detectives, palasaki
âI need to talkâŚâ Crystal took a deep breath and continued, ââŚto the thing inside Niko. The demon. I have a really attractive offer.â The demon forced Niko upright in jerky, unnatural movements, the fully black sclera only adding to the horror movie effect. Nothing at all like Nikoâs sweet brown eyes. Crystal fought back a shiver. âYouâve got nothing I want, sweetheart. I just need to read one pesky little book, and then Iâll be on my way! So stay out of it.â Or: A newly sprite-free Crystal will do whatever it takes to save a victim of demonic possession: her neighbor, Niko Sasaki.
(if you cut me) i'll bleed pink: dead boy detectives, palasaki
Crystal was just opening her locker, the first time she saw her. The most beautiful girl in the world, probably, all shiny black hair and wide eyes, a cute outfit and an even cuter smile. Crystal could swear that when their eyes met, the world lit up with stars and hearts and bright pink light. She couldnât look away. Or: Crystal meets someone new at the high school her parents shipped her off to.
can't see the stars for clouds: dead boy detectives, palasaki
âSo, what do you do around here?â Niko asked, when all the introductions had been handled, and she and the cloud goddess â Crystal, a pretty name for a pretty goddess â stood just within sight of Edwin and his sun god suitor. After all, being chosen as a chaperone for this celestial courting was the highest honor imaginable â unless you were the moon godâs best, and maybe only, friend. Or not anymore, by the look of Charlesâ easy smile and the loosening line of Edwinâs shoulders, visible even through the veil. Niko sure hoped so. It would be nice for Edwin to get a friend out of this union, at the very least. She hoped for more, but then, sheâd always been a romantic. Or: The star and cloud goddesses must chaperone the courting sun and moon gods. However shall they pass the time?
when you see the flashing of the lights (remember you're in love tonight): dead boy detectives, palasaki
âIâm⌠Iâm right across the hall,â Crystal said, not quite sure where she was going with this, only that she wanted this girl to keep looking at her. Forever. âIf youâŚâ âI like your jacket!â the girl interrupted, and slammed the door in her face. Crystal blinked a couple of times, quickly, and it was only around the tenth one that she realized the world had changed. It appeared⌠warmer, almost. The lights looked different from the walls looked different from Charlesâ shirt as he asked, âWhat are you doing?â Or: Seeing your soulmate makes the world gain color. So do the dandelion sprites. What could possibly go wrong?
grinning from ear to ear in purple lace: dead boy detectives, palasaki
Every manga Niko read, every movie she watched, the smutty fanfiction sheâd devoured from what was a probably too young age â all of them said the same thing: sex was a serious thing. You had to be amazing at it, even if it was your first time. You had to know exactly what your partner wanted. You had to look hot the whole time. You were not supposed to laugh during it. Or: Niko and Crystalâs first time.
it'll seem more like a song (when you pull on my hair): dead boy detectives, payneland
The implications of Charles putting up a âClosedâ sign took a slow, syrupy second to filter through. Charles had planned this. Impetuous, spur-of-the-moment Charles had planned this. At the same time, from his position mouthing at Edwinâs clavicle, Charles murmured, âCan I try something new?â Or: Edwin and Charles have some fun with his long hair.
memories decay into these stories: dead boy detectives, payneland
âEveryone has a place. Donât you want to know what yours is? It might be wonderful,â the Night Nurse told Charles, her voice soothing as a lullaby. Charles faltered at the Night Nurseâs words. His shoulders loosened; his cricket bat descended out of its ready position. Stood behind him, Edwin could not see his expression, but he could imagine it well enough: a slack expression, morphing slowly into wide-eyed wonder. Charles took a dazed step toward her. And, in the single most selfish act of his entire existence â Edwin darted after him, clutching handfuls of his coat, and tried to hold Charles back. Or: The Night Nurse says a little less. Edwin does a little more. They all deal with the consequences.
(call me baby) run his hands through my hair: dead boy detectives, payneland, palasaki
It had been quite some time since Charles and Niko, armed with a truly astonishing amount of clothing, disappeared into the officeâs spare bedroom. Only their murmurs and the occasional bright peals of laughter were audible through the walls, providing no hint as to what they were doing. Edwin and Crystal had been relegated to the main office to ward away any would-be clients on the agencyâs official day off. Or: Charles gets a makeover! Edwin gets a makeover! Everybody gets a makeover!
we would be so good (if we were given the chance): dead boy detectives, payneland
âKinda makes you want to write your own poetry, doesnât it?â It was a split-second of an expression â a sideways flash of the eyes, a tinge of colour in the cheeks â before Edwin said, composed as always, âIndeed. But that is a task best left to the professionals, I believe.â Anyone else would have missed it. But Charles wasnât in the habit of missing things, not when it came to Edwin. âWait,â he said slowly, and Edwinâs eyes were already closing in defeat. âHave you â Youâve written poetry?â Or: Charles, Edwin, and poetry.
November
love's so strange (so real in the dark): dead boy detectives, payneland
To illustrate his point, he gave Charlesâ necklace a sharp tug. Charles did not answer the question, because Charlesâ eyes were slipping shut and his lips were parting around a pretty gasp, the necklace slackening under Edwinâs finger as Charles followed the motion down â âCharlesâŚâ Edwin whispered, and it was not quite a question and not quite a warning. If he were to be brutally honest with himself â something he rarely allowed â it was simply to feel the shape of it in his mouth. âTell me to stop,â Charles said at last, breaking the charged silence between them. His voice was hoarse. Edwin swallowed with difficulty. Charlesâ eyes dipped down, and his ridiculously long lashes accenting the motion, until there could be no doubt that he was staring at Edwinâs mouth. âTell me to stop, and I will.â Or: In another universe, the doorbell doesnât ring.
take the ribbon from your hair (shake it loose, let it fall): dead boy detectives, payneland
In mere hours, Charles would tie his hair back, out of the way of their work. Sometimes he missed a strand, which would then frame his face most fetchingly. Terribly tempting, that one curl, not to mention the fantasy of tucking it behind his ear and then ravishing him beyond what his poor hair tie could contain. For now, there was no such restriction, and so it was yet another thing Edwin planned to take full advantage of. He took hold of Charlesâ hair and simultaneously set his teeth against Charlesâ neck. Charlesâ grip on him tightened. With a barely perceptible pop, Edwinâs shirt vanished. Or: The first time Charles vanished Edwinâs clothes.
a lap dance club without the dancers: dead boy detectives, (sapphic) payneland
The woman was a sight and a half. Glazed eyes, dark strands of hair sticking to flushed cheeks, the proper button-down doing nothing to hide the way her chest heaved with her rapid breaths. Easy. Charlize had barely started. And, oh, there was still so much she planned to do⌠Or: A lap dance gets a little out of hand.
December
need an adversary (to my down-to-marry): dead boy detectives, palasaki, payneland
The guests all stood and turned back to face the doors as they slid open. The music rose to a crescendo, and in walked Edwin, beautifully dressed and clutching a spray of flowers. He was wearing that small and secret smile that Charles knew better than his own, strutting down the aisle like it was a runway privileged enough to feature him. Charles couldnât take his eyes off him even if he wanted to. The world and everyone in it faded away, âtil Edwin was all he could see. If Charles could choose to live in this moment for the rest of forever, he would. Or: A real wedding; a fake relationship. What could possibly go wrong?
tagging @tragedy-machine, @lolotr, @aletterinthenameofsanity, @c-rowland, @shadowquill17 and whoever else wants to take part! <333
#the radiant emperor#tre#dead boy detectives#dbda#dbda year fr!#tltl fic#payneland#palasaki#nix i love you but how could you do this to me#also what was i on in october and where can i get more of it holy shit#tbf 6 of those are short palasaki week entries that i wrote september. but STILL
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Favorite Things: See Your Love
Shows should not be allowed to have this much cute and fluffy. They set the bar way too high, even for fiction! The focus on being seen, embraced, and loved unconditionally tells a really beautiful and touching story and we love it more than is healthy.
This show made us laugh and cry. Below are some of our favorite moments and posts we found on tumblr (spoilers ahead):
Going to start with the ending because we CAN NOT with this scene. This show had so many devastatingly beautiful and romantic moments that we are overly obsessed with. And then they gave us this. The way they see each other and love each other completely and unconditionally is everything. I don't love you in spite of who you are, I love you because it's who you are. FJHHSOIYOIHWKNW!!! Too many feelings!
We love translation posts and this one by @thisonelikesaliens compared the translations of this one phrase on different platforms. We agree that Gaga won on this one! Too funny!
This scene made us choke! Thanks for the GIFS @pointlesscandies
This edit post by @theside-b was so HILARIOUS!!! 𤣠It lives rent free in our brain now.
This scene. Their faces. We were completely destroyed. Had to share these GIFS from @tokkistuff
It's what makes you YOU đđđ I'm not crying, you're crying! Thanks for the GIFS @taeminie
First @theside-b made us laugh with their hilarious edit, and then made us cry with these beautiful GIFS. This entire conversation was everything. Love this show so much.
This scene was đĽ°. But this post by @hughungrybear made us đ
Some of us have to do mental/emotional gymnastics when dubcon is part of a story. We're not sure being intentionally mislead is much better, but it was definitely a surprise and we'll admit, the scene was a little funny and @pointlesscandies post made me laugh!
Did you love it as much as we did? What were your favorite things?
#that is the most romantic thing we have ever seen!#no wait THAT is the most romantic thing we have ever seen!#stop! you're doing this to us on purpose!#this show gave us too many feels#unrealistic relationship goals#their height difference đ#i have cuteness aggression#See your love#see your love series#see your love the series#Raiden Lin#jin yun#zi xiang x shao peng#sean x shao peng#taiwanese bl#taiwan bl#asian bl#bl series#ql series#comfort watch#gmd post#gmd favorite things
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Just watched the last episode.. I'm unwell
There's so much to unpack
!!! SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT!!!
First of all
SHAYLA, MY SHAYLA
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My baby girl did not deserve to die, fuck everyone who decided this, especially after that fucking traumatic past, why do you have to give all my babies a hellish life? Baby girl was just a daddy's girlđ
And no one, I repeat no one is going to blame the poor little baby Weasel for her death, do you even realize the ptsd he was going through đđđ
Look what he went through, tell me he wouldn't do anything to save the little girl, it's not his fault that Ilana looks just like herđ
Bride... My poor queen, I'm sorry your girl died, she cried guys.. She cried
She lost the only people she loved twice, first Victor (he was weird I'm not too mad about that) and now Nina
Okay enough sad stuff
FUCK
YES
Our queen killed that bitch, I knew from the start that Ilana is nothing but bad news, like okay, I'm not fully mad at her because she got us the hottest fucking scene with our favorite DILF, but yeah anyways, he deserves better anyways (me, I'm ready, one chance please Rick Flag Sr. đ)
I'm just really happy that Nina's death wasn't in vain, and yeah, that Illana bitch deserved to die for killing our girl
And GI IS BACK I'M SO HAPPY HE'S THE CUTEST LITTLE THING
Okay the last thing I'm bummed about is only because I'm a slut
We needed more of my husband (Rick Flag Sr. Save Me)
I believe Doctor Phosphorus is sexy, and has more potential, why do I feel like he wasn't explored that much, like every character, except maybe Rick had their own redemption arc of sorts except him, well if we count that interaction with the little girl then okay, but still, there's room for more.
On an ending note
We need more, JAMES GUNN SEASON 2 WHEN?
#creature commandos#rick flag sr#nina mazursky#gi robot#doctor phosphorus#the bride#weasel#princess ilana#james gunn
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In Defense of Van
I've seen some hate for Adult Van because of her actions in the season 2 finale of Yellowjackets, and with season 3 about a month away, I want to give my perspective on her actions during the hunt. I'll give a spoiler warning from this point on, just in case.
First of all, does Van believe as an adult?
I don't think so. She was nowhere near Lottie and didn't even know she wasn't in Switzerland anymore when Tai came to her shop, and she was originally going to leave after dropping Tai off. She never seemed particularly happy to be there and wasn't enthusiastic to see Lottie, and none of them wanted to go on the hunt. She seemed to have accepted her cancer diagnosis and was as content as someone could be in that situation. Her face when she saw Lottie was one of shock, not one of reverence.
Why does she ask Tai to call off the psych team?
Van tells Tai why she wants her to call off the psych team. She wants to help Lottie on their own because they made a pact to watch out for each other. Putting her back in a mental health facility wouldn't help her. Just because Van doesn't believe anymore doesn't mean she doesn't care about Lottie. They were close in the Wilderness, and that's not going to go away. When she says, "We made her like this." she is expressing her guilt for what happened in the Wilderness and why she wants them to help her on their own.
What about her actions during the hunt?
This is where a theory I came up with after watching the episode comes into play. I think Van managed to rig the deck to make sure none of them got the queen card on the first draw. After they all picked a card, she nodded her head like she was happy with the outcome. Then Lottie told them to draw again, and the face she made definitely wasn't happy. She looked upset and scared because she likely wanted to reason with Lottie after that, but the opportunity was taken away. They all start following Shauna after she gets the queen the second time, but it doesn't look like any of them, except Lottie, are really into it. None of them are screaming or even seem like they are having any kind of fun. This is in stark contrast with the hunt in the teen timeline when they are going after Natalie.
What about the aftermath of the hunt?
Van definitely didn't want to see anyone killed. I don't believe she would have killed Shauna, and they were all upset when Natalie was killed. She isn't really responsible for Natalie's death since she had no idea about Lisa or Misty's weapon, but that doesn't mean she and everyone else don't feel guilty. I don't think the idea even crossed her mind to have someone sacrificed to cure her cancer because her entire demeanor is one of acceptance, and she doesn't believe in the Wilderness as an adult. When Lottie says, "The Wilderness has been fed. You'll see." She grimaces. Again, it is not a happy expression. She knows what Lottie means, but she doesn't believe it anymore, plus Natalie is dead.
Van in the teen timeline
A lot of people seem to think what she said to Travis after Javi died makes her a horrible person, but while it was maybe a little heartless and harsh, it makes perfect sense why she said it. Van is a survivor. She is happy to be alive in a situation where she has almost died multiple times, and realistically they're all happy they will live another day. Also, at this point, she believes in the Wilderness. When she says, "Don't let his sacrifice go to waste." she is not manipulating him. As a believer, she really does believe that the Wilderness chose, and it would be wrong not to eat what they were given.
This isn't to absolve Van of all guilt or turn her into a saint, I just wanted to share my interpretation of her character and give another perspective to those who dislike her.
#yellowjackets#yellowjackets showtime#season 2#episode 9#van palmer#yellowjackets analysis#yellowjackets fandom#van yellowjackets
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A Clear Logical Look At The Grey: Warcrime or not?
**Spoilers For Arcane**
Alright. By now, I and many others have gone over "The Grey" in one way or another many times over. The discussion regarding Caitlyn's arc and story in season 2 has sparked just about every reaction imaginable, and the show has been over long enough that it seems the lines in the sand are drawn, and people are pretty much settled where they landed.
So, why am I getting into this again? Because I keep seeing the same term over and over from the anti-Caitlyn folks. "War Crime". And to be honest, I realized while I like every other adult in the world had heard the term in the news, movies, tv shows and more throughout my life, I really don't have a strong understanding to say one way or another if this was what people say it was. This will ONLY be related to her use of The Grey, as that is what I keep seeing pop up regarding this discussion.
To that end, what I'm doing here is attempting a clear, logical, easy to follow analysis of this question using real world sources and laws. A few things of note for clarity and fairness:
I am not educated or working professionally in any field related to this topic. I am a layman trying to present the argument and analysis in a clear and unbias way based the research I am able to do.
I am a huge fan of Caitlyn's story and have advocated logically only for the use of "The Grey" many times. For some of you that will invalidate anything else I say. That's fine. For the rest of you I just don't want you feeling that I was trying to get one over on you. This discussion is not going to deal with the story of the show, Caitlyn's growing aggression or any of that. I am simply hoping to address this particular issue.
Obviously, this is a discussion of a fiction substance in a fictional world. So while I am going to try and keep this as grounded as possible there may have to be a mental leaps required.
The use of chemical weapons in warfare and "war crimes" is an extremely serious topic with a history of death and horror. Any lack of sensitivity or respect on my part is not intentional I assure you.
WHAT WE KNOW:
Origin:
It is factory smog trapped underground. Caitlyn learns that her forebears created the ventilation system used to remove it from the Undercity. It is clearly harmful over extended exposure. Caitlyn sees medical sketches of people who have grown up under continuous exposure.
-"The people of the underground deserve to breathe"
First Time We See It Used:
Season 1 Episode 7: The Boy Savior-
Silco meets with the chem-barons and seems to use The Grey to put them in their place, although it is worth noting it seems different. We don't see that particular green haze when he releases it. Although I admit it is possible this was simply an artistic choice later. it is possible this is entirely different. But it gets mentioned quite a bit, so I think it is worth including.
The Strike Team:
This is part of Caitlyn's story where this comes into play. After the attack on the memorial a full force of Enforcers armed with Hex-Tech entering Zaun is imminent. Vi comes to Caitlyn assuring her that is not the way, as they will be on the Zaunite's terms and she must find an alternative. Caitlyn forms her team and goes to the council announcing her intent to enter Zaun. The Strike Team has 3 goals:
Dismantle Shimmer
Apprehend Jinx
Neutralize agents still loyal to Silco
Something to note for understanding:
Zaun is not independent. It is its own city yes, but it falls under the jurisdiction of the Council. Hence the need for the vote at the end of season 1. For further evidence, in the beginning of season one we see multiple instances of Enforcers moving freely in the Undercity with no issue.
What They Do-
With all that in mind, we see them actually engage in their mission. Using the very ventilation system the Caitlyn's family built they engage in a series of tactical strikes carrying out their objectives, using the grey to clear the streets of civilians and incapacitate enemy combatants in controlled and specific areas. Things of note to consider here:
Amanda Overton recently confirmed use The Grey was "strategic to a pinpoint". But did ask "still does that make it forgivable?"
2. Vi tells Jinx in 2x03: " We used the Grey to clear the streets. To keep people safe"
Now, there of course can be an argument made that Vi was simply trying to justify it to herself given the conflict she was obviously dealing with acting as an Enforcer. But I'm really trying to stick to what we know here and not interpret intention. So let's go over a few points:
They are after Jinx. And good or bad, love her or hate her, she likes to blow things up. Using that information anything that would clear innocents from the area before the Strike Team engages would be a logical decision.
I have seen this image making the rounds being used as proof that they targeted civilians-
This comes from the early portion of the Hellfire cinematic. This is not showing something they did in the current story. The dress of the people and the appearance of Zaun in the image tell us this. Additionally, the image is of the same color scheme and style as the older images Caitlyn sees while using the Kiramman key.
Known Exposures And Confirmed Symptoms:
Exposures-
Silco's Table:
Silco: Died by gunshot
Finn- Died by sword wound
Renni- Died when throat cut
Smeech- Died in fight with Sevika
Chross- Arrested? Hard to tell
Margot- Arrested? Hard to tell
Strike Team:
Jinx- Alive (we all know it)
Vi- Alive
Heenot- Alive (we assume, Caitlyn had him arrested)
Loris- Died from multiple arrow wounds
Maddie- Died of gunshot
Caitlyn- Alive
Steb- Alive
Unknowable amount of people in Zaun who were cleared from streets
Jinx's Attack On Piltover:
Unnamed little boy- Presumably alive
Unknowable amount of people in Piltover
*Presumably each of the surviving Barons. Various guards. Native Zaunites like Vi and Jinx have been exposed to it before certainly. These were just the ones I was confidant enough to document here*
Symptoms-
Painful irritation of eyes: Seen in essentially every exposure
Nasal irritation: Many characters sneeze but Heenot especially
Coughing: Essentially every exposure
Breathing Trouble: Seems to make it harder for some targets to breathe than others. (Assuming it was the same, Finn had extremely violent reaction to exposure compared to say Silco himself, who was standing there completely unmasked)
** It should be noted that we see multiple chem-baron foot soldiers laying on the ground when Smeech and his people arrive, in 2x02, however we get shots each of them confirming they are awake and breathing**
Possible Long Term Effects: Many people have expressed concerns over the potential of long term impact to the health of any and all who were exposed. In truth we just can't know. Obviously there are side effects to the people who have spent their lives breathing the Grey. But it is logical to suggest that short single exposure would not carry the same risk.
The Accusation:
Okay. The accusation of being made is that by using The Grey Caitlyn Kiramman committed what would be a war crime in the real world. In our world, this sort of thing is defined and laid out by something called "The Chemical Weapons Convention".
Classifying "The Grey"-
For our purposes, the comparison here is "Chemical Weapons" versus "Riot Control Agents".
Chemical Weapon- "A Chemical Weapon is a chemical used to cause intentional death or harm through its toxic properties. Munitions, devices and other equipment specifically designed to weaponize toxic chemicals also fall under the definition of chemical weapons"
Riot Control Agent- "Riot control agents are intended to temporarily incapacitate a person by causing irritation to the eyes, mouth, throat, lungs, and skin. Riot control agents, such as tear gas, are considered chemical weapons if used as a method of warfare. States can legitimately possess riot control agents and use them for domestic law enforcement purposes".
Effects: Tears, coughing, and irritation to eyes, nose, mouth and skin; constricts airway
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Now there are other types of Chemical Weapons of course. I list these only so you have all the various categories to investigate for yourself so you can see I'm not hiding something that matches The Grey.
Choking agents- Effects include fatal fluid buildup in lungs
Blister agents- Burning and blistering skin/eyes/windpipe/lungs
Blood agents- Cell's ability to use O2 impaired, leading to damage to all vital organs
Nerve agents- "Overstimulation of parasympathetic system effecting the peripheral and central nervous system, including: lacrimation, salivation, sweating, blurred vision, headache, difficulty in breathing and vomiting. In higher doses, nerve agents cause seizures, loss of body control, muscle paralysis (including heart and diaphragm) and unconsciousness"
Returning to RCA'S (Riot Control Agents)- As you can see above, states are permitted to possess and utilize RCA's for domestic law-enforcement purposes. But they are prohibited and classified as Chemical weapons when used in warfare. Which brings us to our next questions.
Summary: "The Grey" is essentially a symptom-for-symptom match for their example of an RCA.
Domestic Law Enforcement Or Warfare-
For a reminder:
Caitlyn is acting as essentially part of the council (since the seat is hers even though she never really takes it) but also under the auspices of the Council Of Piltover. Both Piltover itself and Zaun fall under their authority. Meaning they are quelling a domestic threat to public safety.
The show makes a point of Vi needing to be an Enforcer to assist them in an official capacity. The team Caitlyn leads is a team of Enforcers.
We see various instances in the show to reinforce this idea anyway, but in LOL lore, the enforcers are actually known as the "Piltover Wardens". The LOL official wiki describes them as: "The Law Enforcement organization in Piltover". But, for a more relevant Arcane example, the entire hunt for the kids after the explosion in season 1 act 1. Grayson and Marcus are tasked by the council with solving the crime.
They do not use the Grey to kill or harm. It is very specifically said by Vi to be used to reduce harm as much as possible and has no evidence of being fatal. It is being used to reduce violence and control the situation.
Summary: Caitlyn leads a team of members of the law enforcement agency that answers to the Council, into a city they have equal jurisdiction over, to quell a threat to public safety. While doing so they use The Grey with no intent to harm, but to control the situation and reduce violence.
Was Caitlyn's Use Of The Grey Proportionate and Targeted?-
So essentially what we need to consider is was Caitlyn's use of the grey while conducting the strike team's mission fair and disciplined. They knock over a stop sign you don't get to blow up the town square for example.
LSD Law defines Proportionality as the following: " A principle in international law that states the use of force should be proportional to the threat or grievance that provoked that use of force"
The Threat/Grievance (I realize there is nuance/detail to all of this just listing the hard details from Piltover's POV:
Jinx kills six enforcers and burns down a building so she can steal hex-tech gemstone
Caitlyn first hand has been almost killed by Jinx repeatedly
Jinx kills the sheriff of Piltover (corrupt coward but still happened) and several Enforcers in a massive explosion
Jinx easily abducts the daughter of a councilwoman from her own home
Jinx assassinates three councilors of Piltover, seriously wounding 2 others and several other people, and destroys the council chamber
Piltover is attacked by a large force of Zaunite warriors, including Shimmer hulks during a memorial that was supposed to be secure. Several fatalities. Confirmed attempt to assassinate at least one other surviving Councilor. They would have every reason to assume Jinx was involved given her recent activities.
The Strike Team's Response:
Five person team of Enforcers working in city they have full authority to be in.
Targeting Jinx, Shimmer, and Chem Barons.
Moved primarily through Ventilation system (they were not marching through the street in the open getting into firefights like storm troopers, for example)
Use of The Grey to clear the streets in areas there was going to be conflict and reduce/control violence. Which based on the parameters we have discussed I feel comfortable classifying an "RCA".
Grey was used only in extremely specific tactical locations as confirmed earlier in this doc by Amanda Overton.
Summary: A small, controlled, goal oriented team of people acting with full legal authority specifically targeting threats to public safety, moving as much as possible in way that does not endanger the public, and using RCA in pin-point tactical fashion for purposes of reducing violence as much as possible.
Conclusion:
Ultimately, I'm just another fan, and this is a very complex topic with way more to it than I'm probably qualified to speak on. I can say based on my reading and learning I do not believe it to be accurate or reasonable to call Caitlyn a war criminal for the use of The Grey. I recognize there plenty who will read this and disagree. And that's okay! Sadly though there are also those who won't bother to read it, and stick to their guns without being willing to broaden their understanding.
Like I said in the beginning I really just wanted to focus on the question at hand so I didn't get into the story motivations or anything. That being said, I hope this broadens your understanding and appreciation of the character and her story as it did for me. To all those who take time out of your day to read my rambling, I love and appreciate you all. See ya next time!
***I didn't want to put this in the beginning because I was trying to leave anything with any attitude out of it. Yes RCA's are permitted in domestic law-enforcement situations and not in warfare. This can lead to statements like " Your defending her for using something we can't even use in war"..... You know what is allowed? bullets'. Bullets are allowed***
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Carl Grimes (The Walking Dead) vs. Alya Cesaire (Miraculous Ladybug)
Y'all Hate Kids: Screwed By The Writers
Propaganda below the cut
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Carl Grimes (The Walking Dead)
Heâs literally blamed for doing stuff that any kid raised in the apocalypse would realistically do. He literally had to shoot his own mother and watch two of his friends get killed with a baseball bat. Fans call him âstupidâ for killing specific people, but when he doesnât kill other specific people, heâs blamed for that too. Fans also seem to hate his actorâs acting, even though Carl is meant to be emotionally-stunted due to the severe trauma heâs faced. It doesnât help that the show runner himself seemed to hate Carl enough to [spoiler alert], and it derailed the entire show as a result. Carl literally is just trying to survive in a world heâs forced to grow up in. Heâs lost so many adults in his life and canât let himself just be a kid because itâll prevent him from staying prepared.
Alya Cesaire (Miraculous Ladybug)
Cw: racism
"The amount of hatred Alya gets in the fandom is absolutely insane. There are over 800 fics tagged with ""Alya Cesaire Bashing"", and that's just the ones that actually TAG it - many of them either use a a non-canonical tag or just take their demonization of her as canon. It's not just that a lot of fics bash her either, but that the fics that bash her are disproportionately popular. If you go through the ""Miraculous Ladybug"" tag on AO3 and sort by kudos, I'd say around a third of the top 500 most popular fics use this gross caricature of her in order to justify inflicting some sort of insane punishment on her, or at least replacing her with ""better"" friends and leaving her to wail in despair.
Basically, Alya is the best friend of the main character, Marinette. She's really into superheroes and aims to be a reporter someday, to the point that the first time a supervillain cropped up in the series, she immediately got out her bike and cycled after him so that she could be there when a superhero showed up to fight him (Lois Lane would be proud). She runs a blog called the ""Ladyblog"" which reports on what the superheroes are doing, and sometimes makes some fun videos, like about the most impressive feats of one of the superheroes.Â
More relevantly though, she acts as Marinette's support a lot of the time, often being the one to push her to confess her feelings to Adrien, to help her with plans she comes up with, to talk things out with if she's having trouble processing something, and trying to act as the voice of reason if Marinette's gotten to into her own head. It can sometimes head into Black Best Friend territory of having her mostly stick around to support her bestie, but she DOES get a decent amount of screentime and focus at least.
Then the first episode of season 3 aired, and the fandom went BALLISTIC.
This character, Lila, debuted back at the end of season 1 as being this attention-seeking liar who pretended that she knew a lot more famous people than she actually did, including being best friends with Ladybug. Alya, being a naive 14-year-old, believed her and put Lila's interview on her blog. Since Marinette IS Ladybug, she knew this was not true, though she was initially more freaked out about the possibility that Adrien (the boy she has a crush on) would find her supposedly amazing life to be entrancing and that Lila would steal Adrien away from her, to the point that she actively wanted to stop Lila and Adrien from spending time together to prevent Adrien from falling for her.
Fast-forward to Chameleon, the first episode of season 3, and Lila's back and lying some more, this time about having Tinnitus (which would mean that she needs to sit at the front of class, next to Adrien). The class has a whole seating rearrangement in order to accommodate the move, and because some of them just wanted to change seats. Since Marinette was late that day, she didn't get to give input, so she wound up sitting alone at the back of the class, instead of next to Alya like she usually did. She's upset by this, but can't prove that Lila doesn't actually have the disability (she doesn't even have evidence that Lila doesn't have hearing problems, it's just that her story of how she supposedly got the disability is suspect), so she puts up with it for the class period.
Then lunch time rolls around and Marinette tells Alya and Alya's boyfriend, Nino, that Lila's a lying liar who lies. Alya asks why Marinette hates her so much, since she barely knows Lila (this isn't the first time that Marinette's nitpicked at Lila's stories, but she's never actually managed to prove that Lila's lying, Lila's good at coming up with explanations for any hole Marinette exposes in her tales). Marinette tells her how, after Lila first arrived at school, she followed her and Adrien, eavesdropped on them, and then saw Ladybug show up and tear into Lila for not knowing her. (Presumably that's what she says, the episode skipped past her actual recounting of what she saw). Alya and Nino are more concerned with the fact that she stalked Lila and Adrien, with Alya also being skeptical that what she heard might have been out-of-context, given how common out-of-context eavesdropping is in fiction for causing issues, with Alya saying, ""A good reporter always verifies her sources. Can you prove she doesn't actually know Ladybug?""
Since Marinette can't actually prove anything without revealing that she's Ladybug, she decides that the sane and reasonable thing to do is to throw a wadded up napkin at Lila while she's eating lunch, and when she catches it (Lila's pretending to have a sprained wrist), to loudly declare that she obviously doesn't have a sprained wrist. Lila quickly pretends that catching it did actually hurt, the classmates Lila was sitting with scold Marinette for hurting her, and then Marinette goes off to seethe in a bathroom, where Lila finds her and threatens to turn her friends against her if she continues trying to expose her lies.Â
Then at the end of the episode, Adrien goes to sit with Marinette at the back of the class to keep her company, the teacher thinks that Marinette ALSO has hearing issues so she's brought back to the front (and away from Adrien again), Lila pretends that her hearing has been fixed so she can sit at the back with Adrien, and Alya spots that Marinette looks miserable about sitting alone at the front, so she chooses to sit next to Marinette to keep her company and everyone ends up going back to their old places, except that Lila's sitting at the back of the class now.
And that's it. That is, for the most part, what kicked off the entire Alya hatred and demonization onslaught. While there ARE more things that happening in following episodes, they have a pretty small effect on the demonization Alya's put through, almost all of it is derived from Chameleon and hasn't changed much since then.
So for starters, in fanfics Alya is often made to ditch Marinette constantly to hang out with Lila instead. This never happens. She's often exasperated when Marinette starts talking about how Lila is awful and points out that she doesn't have proof of that, but she doesn't avoid Marinette, and the closest she ever comes to hanging out with Lila outside of class events is when she called Lila over to babysit hers and Nino's younger siblings when Marinette canceled at the last minute.
But most Alya-bashing fics don't just leave it there. Oh no. If you look through a bunch of the most popular Miraculous fics, you'll see Alya made out to be some sort of ringleader for the class in bullying Marinette, hitting her, pinching her, poisoning her, destroying her things, saying nasty, heinous things to her, the works, and inciting the rest of the class to do the same, sometimes to the point that even LILA is shocked at her cruelty. Usually in these cases, Chloe, who is canonically the class bully (and Marinette's bully in particular) is inexplicably Marinette's primary protector against the eeeeeevil Alya, becoming Marinette's best friend and support and basically taking on Alya's canon role and some of her personality traits, despite the fact that canonically, Chloe's as susceptible to Lila's lies as anyone else, and that in season 5 Chloe actually became Lila's partner in crime in trying to hurt Marinette in particular. (I don't like how Chloe's treated in canon, but that's a different story).
I've never even seen any justification given for why Alya's so frequently made to be outright violent or cruel towards Marinette, it's just widely accepted in fiction now, even with nothing pointing to her ever being malicious like that. There ARE other things Alya canonically does that I see her taken to task over though, but that fall apart when you examine them.
One of the biggest offenders is criticism towards Alya over how she handles babysitting. In Christmaster, Alya and Nino pick up Nino's little brother after Marinette babysits him for them while they're on a date, in Timetagger, Marinette's slated to babysit for them while they're on a date but cancels at the last minute, so they call Lila over instead, and then in Simple Man, Marinette books herself to babysit Alya's and Nino's younger siblings and the daughter of one's of her mom's friends, a little girl named Manon, all at the same time.
Alya receives heavy criticism for not paying Marinette for her babysitting, for having Marinette babysit for her secretly behind her parents' back without their knowledge, and for pressuring Marinette to babysit for her even though Marinette's so busy.
A few problems with this.
1. We see babysitting happen several times, sometimes with Alya helping Marinette with babysitting Manon and sometimes with Marinette just babysitting Manon without anyone else's involvement. At no point is payment brought up, and yet the absence of such a discussion is only ever used to demonize Alya.
2. There is no evidence that the babysitting Marinette does for Alya's sake is done behind her parents' back, the only thing pointing to that is a lack of Alya ever flat-out saying that she has her parents' permission to have Marinette babysit for her, but there's no evidence of sneaking around. MARINETTE, however, DOES canonically ditch her babysitting duties by having Alya babysit for her without the parent's knowledge. In Prime Queen, Marinette accidentally double books herself to do an interview as Ladybug at the same time that she's supposed to be babysitting Manon, so she calls Alya over to watch the interview with her, lies to her that she's just gonna go downstairs for a few minutes to talk with her parents and for Alya to please watch over Manon while she does that, and then leaves to do the interview while Alya watches over Manon the whole time. Nadja definitely didn't know that this happened, because she was surprised and worried when Alya and Manon called in during the interview with Marinette nowhere to be seen. In addition to this, in Simpleman, Marinette foists off all the children she's babysitting onto her grandpa against his will so that she can run off and help with Adrien's photoshoot after he calls her. The people demonizing Alya for supposedly having Marinette babysit for her secretly are not upset about the examples of Marinette canonically doing these things.
3. Of the three times that Marinette has, to date, been scheduled to babysit for Alya's sake (Christmaster, Timetagger, and Simpleman), for Christmaster she spent the next several hours after finishing with babysitting making Adrien's 50th birthday present (he's currently 14 years old), so I wouldn't say she was pressed for time, for Timetagger, she literally called Alya at the last minute to say she was too busy to babysit and Alya said it was no biggie and made other arrangements, and for Simpleman, Alya offered to cancel her date and take care of her younger siblings herself the instant she saw that Marinette was already babysitting Manon, and Marinette told her to go ahead and go on her date and that she'd look after her siblings.
So clearly, the people clutching their pearls about how horribly irresponsibly Alya is handling babysitting and how she's wronging Marinette in the process don't actually care about babysitting ethics here, because otherwise, Marinette would be getting the brunt of the hatred, not Alya. Despite this, I've seen a fair number of posts in the past tearing into Alya's babysitting for the reasons I already gave, and a bunch of fics that make it so that Alya pressures and guilt-trips Marinette into babysitting for her when she's struggling to keep up with all her work, only to have her parents find out and be horrified by how Alya's lied to them about who's been doing the babysitting and that Alya's been getting an increased allowance because of that, so they pay Marinette out of Alya's allowance and ground her, take away privileges, just have this be used as an excuse to punish Alya for supposedly wronging Marinette.
And then there's the subcategory of Alya demonization towards her for putting up Lila's interview on her blog without verifying that Lila was telling the truth. Admittedly, this was foolish, but she's 14. Retractions exist for a reason. And yet, fics frequently have her reputation be completely destroyed because she put up one interview that had a false statement by the interviewee in it, and sometimes even to be completely blacklisted from ever being a journalist in the future, things that are completely insane and would have even the most storied and well-respected of reporters be unable to ever get a job.Â
She also frequently gets demonized and bashed for ""believing Lila over Marinette"". My major issue with this: what she's specifically believing Lila over Marinette for is on the topic of ""is Lila an awful person"". I don't think it's unreasonable to have a higher standard of proof for believing that someone is an awful person than for believing that your friend might just have some biased interpretations. Alya thinks that Marinette doesn't like Lila mostly because Lila has hit on Adrien, Marinette's crush, before. This isn't unreasonable considering that Marinette's first reaction to Lila is to freak out about her stealing Adrien away, and that when this other girl, Kagami, started hanging out with Adrien, she freaked out about that too. Specifically, she called a meeting of all her female friends to try and stop Kagami and Adrien from going away together to London for the weekend in Backwarder, helped Chloe in trying to get Kagami covered in food at a fancy red carpet movie opening in order to drive her away and steal her seat next to Adrien for the movie, and when she and Kagami were paired up for a ""friend-making game"" where the goal was to locate where Adrien was in Paris and the prize was to spend time with him, she pretended to genuinely want to be Kagami's friend so she could sabotage both of them and prevent Kagami from spending time with Adrien. So it's not like the belief that Marinette might be unfairly biased against Lila because she's made moves on Adrien is an unfair assumption.
In addition to that, on the occasions when Lila HAS tried to frame Marinette for something, Alya hasn't believed it, or hasn't been shown to believe it at least. In Ladybug Lila tries to frame Marinette for cheating on a test, for stealing a necklace from her, and for knocking her down the stairs. Despite the evidence Lila planted, Alya doesn't believe it and investigates to try and find out what really happened. She doesn't uncover any solid proof, but she still believes in Marinette. She doesn't believe that Marinette's assumption that Lila's behind this is necessarily correct, since Marinette's leaping to that without presenting proof, but she doesn't believe that Marinette's the culprit either. And in the two following cases when Marinette's framed, Alya never actually gets a chance to say what she believes after the accusation is made against Marinette.
Just... the amount of demonization towards Alya TO THIS DAY, often for things she NEVER EVEN FREAKING DID, is absolutely insane. Even over 5 years since Chameleon aired, fics with Alya being made into this malicious, awful bully so that Marinette can get some new friends to publicly denounce her, get her arrested, or otherwise be punished are frequently on the front page of the most recently updated fics on AO3, and are often some of the most popular ones. If you go to ""Fandom-Specific plot"" on Tvtropes, saltfics like these have multiple files going through all the common salt tropes. When looking through fics, I frequently search for Alya's name because she's often the first person to be unfairly demonized, so if she's safe, then everyone likely is.Â
I suspect that racism plays a major factor in this. It doesn't make sense that Alya's often painted as being a violent, malicious bully and leader in getting the rest of the class to physically hurt and terrorize Marinette, I haven't even seen analysis arguing that she'd do that... but it tracks with the ""Black Brute"" archetype. This becomes even more obvious with Chloe, who's white and canonically DOES do some of this stuff, taking on Alya's canon role and some of her personality traits in these sorts of stories.
Then there's the standard Alya's held to for how she handles her blog. It's way higher than anyone would hold real-world reporters to, much less 14-year-olds. But it makes sense if you factor racial bias into account, and how Alya, being Black, is going to be held to a higher standard than anyone else, and be punished more for failing to meet that standard.
For things like the babysitting double standard, it makes no sense if you're actually looking at the stated criticism, given that the same criticism isn't leveled at Marinette... but it makes perfect sense if you're going off the assumption that Alya, as Marinette's Black Best Friend, is supposed to solely function as her support and that she's simply fulfilling her duties by always being there for her when needed, including for babysitting, but that if Marinette ever attempts to repay in kind, then Alya's being unfair towards her because Alya's obligated to always support Marinette, but that relationship is supposed to be a one-way street. Alya is supposed to function as Marinette's support, never the other way around.
And as for the way Alya's demonized for asking for evidence before believing that Lila's lying, well... again, Alya's expected to act as Marinette's support, and her ""failing"" that in any way, even if it makes sense from her point of view, is viewed as a betrayal. She's supposed to be loyal to Marinette, and only to Marinette, not to think for herself or to have multiple other friends or values that she needs to weigh. And anything that she does to go against that ""justifies"" Marinette intentionally trying to hurt and punish her for failing to live up to her role.
In conclusion, the way Alya's treated by the salt side of the fandom is grossly unfair, often has little connection with anything she canonically did, and has some gross racist implications, and is likely at least partially spurred on by racism, especially with how common and popular it still is to this day."
"(Note: This is an addendum to my earlier essay about the fandom's mistreatment of Alya. Here, I'm focusing more on how the writers' treatment of her helped to exacerbate that, since I saw that this version of the tournament had more of a focus on that. Please add this on at the end of my previous essay).
While Alya is primarily screwed over by the fanbase, there are some aspects of the writing that exacerbate her ill treatment. In season 4, Marinette confesses her secret identity to Alya, letting her know that she is Ladybug. Despite now knowing why Marinette was so convinced that Lila wasn't friends with Ladybug, and that Lila's interview stating that she's best friends with Ladybug is a lie, the subject just... never comes up, even when Lila starts being important again. It's not that Alya's ignoring what Lila lying on those subjects means, it's more like the writers just completely forgot that Lila told those particular lies, since Marinette doesn't bring them up either. This creates an inconsistency with the fanbase, who really, really, REALLY haven't forgotten those lies.Â
There ARE ways to explain this - Lila lying about being friends with Ladybug in order to try to boost her reputation, especially when she's the new girl, isn't really all that heinous. Marinette lies a lot as well, even if you don't count lies told to protect her secret identity or other ""necessary"" lies, sometimes out of embarrassment, sometimes to to try and prevent someone's feelings from getting hurt, and sometimes because she thinks it's the fastest, easiest, or most certain way to get the outcome she wants. And yet, even though Marinette lies a lot, she's not ostracized for that since it's usually not for malicious reasons - foolish reasons at times, but rarely malicious. It would make sense that Lila too, wouldn't be thought too badly of for merely lying in an attempt to make friends.
None of that actually comes up though. Alya later, in Confrontation, states that, ""Marinette, you know we'll always believe you. But every time you've accused Lila, there's been no evidence. And at worst, it was just a misunderstanding."" Marinette doesn't say anything about the previous times Lila has been proven to lie, so it seems like either it was decided offscreen that the more understandable lies she's told don't matter, or that the writers just plain forgot about them.
There were other opportunities created by Alya knowing Marinette's identity that were ignored. Alya concludes that Adrien backing up Marinette's statement that Lila's bad news was just due to him wanting to defend his girlfriend. This is also a bit of a writing flaw, while wanting to back up his girlfriend's stance IS a decent reason for Adrien to be biased against Lila, this is Adrien we're talking about here. He's nice and understanding to a fault, and is known for giving people the benefit of the doubt and second chances. It makes far less sense to believe that he'd believe the worst of Lila, even if Marinette does, than it does for Marinette to be biased against Lila. That being said, Adrien wouldn't have been present for Lila's more indisputable threats and statements directed against Marinette, so he can't actually verify for sure whether or not there could've been some misunderstanding.
There WAS, however, someone who was always with Marinette, and who could actually back up Marinette's statements more definitively.Â
Tikki. She was present for every threat Lila made, for everything she ever claimed. While it's possible that both Tikki and Marinette may have misunderstood Lila in the same way, it's far less likely, especially since Tikki would have had different biases from Marinette. Tikki could be an important witness. Yet that never comes up, is never proposed, because that would end the plotline too quickly.Â
Alya was also screwed over in the immediate aftermath of Lila being exposed, though not by the writers per se? There was a short scene planned after Lila's exposed where Alya apologizes for not believing Marinette about Lila being a liar and generally an awful person, we've even got leaked footage of it, but it appears that it was cut somewhere between being written and voice acted, and the episode being aired.Â
All of this only really affects detailed arguments about how well (or poorly) Alya's story arc with Lila was handled, its affect on the actual fanfiction produced about Chameleon salt was minimal, I saw no change in its frequency, severity, or general handling of the characters with any season after season 3. I highly doubt that even the changes I suggested here would have done much to persuade the saltdom against Ron the Death Eatering Alya, especially since a lot of the hatred against her has so little to do with the show.
There IS some hatred thrown at Alya for non-Lila related reasons - well, reasons that aren't DIRECTLY Lila related, most of that hatred still stems from people hating her for Chameleon stuff and then retroactively justifying it by looking back at other things she did that irked them. The most common one (that actually has some sort of argument to it, not the ""Alya's a horrible babysitter and is abusing her friendship with Marinette"" nonsense I listed in the main essay) is that Alya's pushy about getting Marinette together with Adrien.Â
This is more a product of Alya's usual role in the story than anything. I mentioned in the main essay how Alya sometimes falls into ""Black Best Friend"" territory, and this is one of the biggest examples. One of her most common roles throughout the series is as the person who pushes Marinette to actually confess to Adrien, to hang out with him, to pursue her romantic desires even with her anxiety holding her back, and to be honest with herself during the times when she's trying to deny her feelings for him. She's Marinette's sounding board whenever she's having an anxiety spiral about... actually, just about anything, and acts as the voice of reason when Marinette gets in her own head too much.
Thus, Alya sets Marinette and Adrien to end up somewhere alone together, or tries to push her to talk to him, or to be honest during the times when she tries to ""move on"" from Adrien by denying that she still has feelings for him (which is blatantly untrue). She IS okay with Marinette dating someone else though, if she honestly seems to want to do that. She had no problem with her dating Luka, for instance. She DID protest Marinette's seemingly sudden interest in Chat Noir, but that was mostly because Marinette seemed to be grabbing at her new attraction as an attempt to run away from her feelings for Adrien, something that Tikki ALSO noted.
That's another thing - Alya's the character who's most frequently thrown into this role, but she's not the only one, nor even the most extreme one. A new character that was introduced for the Miraculous New York Special, Jess, observed how Adrien and Marinette acted around each other, and decided to try to get them to confess their love by faking a supervillain attack on them, with the supervillain kidnapping anyone that no one loves in order to compel Marinette to FINALLY confess to Adrien. (Alya thought it was stupid, but agreed to help since it might actually work). When Marinette, Adrien, Luka, and Kagami went out to the wax museum together, Luka intentionally locked Adrien and Marinette in a room together so that Marinette would stop running away and would be forced to talk to Adrien. Marinette is written in such a way that other characters are compelled to meddle in her lovelife, because otherwise she'll continue making her own extreme plans and pining away, but never actually confess her feelings.Â
So while Alya could be said to be ""pushy"" to an extent, it's mostly for Marinette's benefit. I would like if this was a less frequent role for Alya - I think it does her a disservice, since it locks her firmly into Marinette's orbit rather than emphasizing who Alya is as her own character. Most of the hatred towards Alya for this is tied up in ""Die For Our Ship"" being directed at Adrien though, with Adrien bashers hating that Alya's trying to set Marinette up with what they see as an inferior option. Ironically enough, while Alya's role in this situation is one of the primary examples in the show of her being treated by the writers as a ""Black Best Friend"" who exists to serve Marinette's character, it's actually one of the cases where I think racism is a pretty minor part of the hatred by the fanbase over it, since I think that's mostly motivated by hatred towards the Lovesquare.
In conclusion (again), there is an issue with the writers bending Alya's character in order to tell a particular story, particularly a Marinette-centered story, while ignoring how little sense that makes with what happened earlier on in the plotline, or how it centralizes Alya's role and character around Marinette in ways that exacerbate already existing writing patterns in media.
#yall hate kids tourney#screwed by the writers#round 2#miraculous ladybug#alya cesaire#carl grimes#twd#the walking dead
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thinking about not only the specific people lucanis pulls in to represent the 'locks' in his psyche, but the storytelling that happens in the structure/order of them. the underlying ideas are presented something like:
the lucanis who went into the ossuary never came back out again; he died down there (the boy caterina raised is gone forever) -> you're putting yourself in danger doing this (by being close to me), you should leave because I can't bear it if you get hurt because of me -> it doesn't matter even if we do try this, it won't work anyway (again because of me) ('you know what he's like, you can open the door but he won't walk through it' :'( oofie doofie) -> what if the real secret is that there was never anything but the monster in here from the beginning. you should leave, there was never anything here worth saving in the first place. (implicitly: what if I deserved what happened, all along.)
it runs pretty cleanly from outward-oriented attachment anxiety ('caterina won't even want me back like this, she won't recognize me (the same way I no longer recognize myself)) and gradually deeper inwards until we reach self-image and self worth. or you know, the harrowing basic lack of it lol.
"careful -- they'll know we're not right," spite says in one of their first scenes... but clearly, some very deep part of lucanis has feared or suspected for much longer than that that there's something inherently not right at the core of him, way before any demon entered the picture. and the voice he gives those lines to is the person who should know him better than anyone in the world, who he has loved more than anyone in the world -- and who deliberately chose to hurt him so horrifically anyway. 'It's better if I'm just a monster and deserved what happened than it is to allow for the idea that the brother I love doesn't really exist and maybe never did'. it's better if he's fundamentally flawed in some way that needed fixing to help him survive, and that's why caterina chose to hurt him again and again -- out of love. (this one I think he might have a very sad wakeup call on one day if he ever ends up with the responsibility and care of a child of his own in some way and realizes just how alien the idea of ever intentionally hurting them for any reason is to him. oh buddy. also interesting that he keeps caterina as the outermost lock -- there IS a distance he keeps there that he hasn't with illario. he doesn't resent her 'anymore' he says, but he also keeps her carefully further away from his deepest self.)
as far as I could tell the only note in the mind prison that's fully hidden and needs to be uncovered is the sad painful helpless stupid little truth that even after all this, even knowing what happened... he still loves his brother. is there anything illario could ever do that would make lucanis completely stop loving him, do you think? sometimes the trouble with unconditional love is that it is, well. unconditional, even when some terms and conditions probably would have been in order haha.
that's the pattern you see there again and again; he would rather destroy and abandon and imprison himself at every turn than let go of love, even when it's just scraps, even when there's only ever enough of it to hurt him. it's only when rook shows up and as it were takes his hand and walks along with him that he can entertain the idea of changing the story of what walking out the door might mean in the end.
#tl;dr the demon is a metaphor about dissociation and trauma and it's doing its job thematically fucking pitch perfectly that way the end#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard spoilers#dragon age spoilers#lucanis dellamorte#dragon age meta#this mission is like ds9 the wire in terms of episodes you really can examine from a thousand different angles#and find something new and soulcrushingly sad every time. exactly my kind of episode in other words#whenever people say there's nothing to him but coffee and spite jokes some small part of me goes 'oh I'm so incredibly sorry!#it must be really hard and so impractical to go through life without being able to read :'( get better soon'#is that very nice of me. perhaps not. is the writing here *perfect*? of course not. but some people are also dedicated to being#wilfully blind (presumably b/c they would have preferred to see something else?? idk man)#lucanis' reaction to taash going 'I'm sorry I'm such a bad crow :'('... he could NEVER do what caterina did with him no matter what#you just can't use him like that. he needs the clean family/enemy/contract distinction or you just break him!!!#caterina literally what are you thinking. every day I ask myself this. (probably 'the only other option that keeps the seat in the family#is illario. so that's right out of course' lmao)#god forbid it happen anytime soon if it should happen b/c there's Stuff that needs working through first lol but he'd be such a soft dad
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favourite thing: his new habit of saying uhuh/mhm and also this
#the first time he did it in unmortricken i was like Fuck Yes and little did i know he would just keep doing it the whole time#DESPERATELY hoping they keep both of these things. i Love when characters have tiny little habits sprinkled in their actions#to me these things kinda sorta symbolise him no longer being afraid to really be himself#like he no longer has to hide certain things about himself that inside of the cfc wouldve made him appear âsuspiciousâ#since he IS like so much different than any other morty ever#also barely related but like. em is fundamentally such a good character bc everytime we see him heâs feeling something different#in his first appearance he was cold and distant because at the time he was new to being free and was strictly focused on his goal and wasnâ#even sure if it would work#in his second appearance he seemed hopeful and honest both of these things just being a trap to get the people of the citadel to trust him#and his old colder self unfurling near the end after he successfully becomes president#in his third appearance he seems giddy almost. heâs constantly giggling before and after sentences and heâs super eager to just Get The Hel#Out. and also to reveal the truth to morty prime. make it so that he doesnât have to be the one to shoulder everything anymore.#and this fourth appearance. apart from a few little details he really just seems happy and comfortable. the entire episode he was just doin#whatever he wanted and nobody got in his way at all. and i could not be happier#normal about this character!#rick and morty#evil morty#rick and morty spoilers#odiespeak
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"this is me on day one of NO rendog !!"
#glad to know hes coping just as well as the rest of us#how in the world does martyn consistently stay the last few green/yellow lifes/ win and yet...#anyways i love the new series if only i could please have more than 2 episodes from martyn thatd be really great thanks#love to see a man get a good beating just kidding pleas#if he dies i will start sobbing trust me#already had me in tears from the first ep#but actually it was wonderful just please if he could make some friends thatd be swell#or not martyn lone wolf arc???#im gonna post this before in hate it because it is 5am and i dont have time to start fixing what was supposed to be a sketch#i really love my yapping in the tags im so sorry#inthelittlewood#itlwart#trafficblr#mcyt#traffic life smp#life series#secret life#secret life smp#life smp#traffic spoilers#my art
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And On Next.... The Weather!
doubt any of you woulda expected this one did ya!
#it's time for the#itft#itft clock#itft fanart#osc art#expect more from me obsessing over object shows. I feel like im back in 2016/17 again and im having the best time of my life#shocked this was the one i did first but the vibes of this show have realllllly stuck with me and i was listening to the sountrack playlist#so i kinda had to make someeethhiiinnggg#also as a celebratory thing for the next episode release!!! heheh!!!#expect something with maybeeee burner or animatic battle next. perhaps#itft spoilers#<- technically i guess? i mean it's vague and like I don't actually know what that lore is in the show like at all so#just to be safe really...#KD'Crumbs#TheTrinketShelf!
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so REVENGE, HUH? or justice, if that makes you feel better. it tastes the same when cooked just right. 'I REALLY WANTED A BROTHER.' such a shame to burn a bridge you so desperately wanted to keep, especially when it wasnt even you who started the fire. especially when you hope that not a single fragment of that bridge ever washes ashore.[MAY IT ROT FAR FROM MY SIGHTS] an unfortunate loss! atleast he has his friends.
#jrwi fanart#jrwi show#jrwi prime defenders#jrwi prime defenders spoilers#jrwi pd spoilers#jrwi pd#william wisp#vyncent sol#THIS ONE IS FUUUUCKIN OOOOOLLDD RAAAHHHHH i made it like. a year ago. but didnt finish it for so so long bc i just wasnt happy w it.#BUT LIKE A CENTURY EGG the decades of being encased in salt n lime n ash have done WELL to bring out the flavores of this piece#i sorta recently cleaned it up and posted it onto twitty. didnt tag it bc it was SO OLD AND SCUFFED(i see so many MISTAKES NOW)#that i didnt want to expose it to the open air just like that#if i show smth to my small circles then it shall only be understood in those small circles.#open air and open interpretation from minds i cannot predict are NOT something i enjoy the thought of. usually. i am brave tho#BUT EVERYONE ON TWITTY WAS SO NICEEE i was like damn... i guess it IS good enough to be enjoyed by the masses...#lets work on being nicer to our art together. THAT BEING SAID. i really love my colors here HELL YEAHHHH#FIRST TIME IN A WHILE COLORIN THESE BOYS.... i dont use proper color enough..I ALSO RLY LIKE MY BACKGROUNDS HERE#i LOVE when the bg is hyperrealistic (i frankestiened stock photos) and when the subjects are all flat colored n cartoony#recently rewatched Making Fiends and they do that similar thing!! soft shading! lotsa details! almost painted? ill paint one day#ive already rambled so much abt the art im runnin out of ROOm to ramble about WWWIILLIAM GODDAMN WWIIIISP. its been a minute since i saw-#-this episode..but i DO remember the funny smoke trick that will did to his funny brother. EVERYTIME U GIVE AN ORDER. THAT BRINGS HARM-#-INDIRECTLY OR NOT. YOU WILL HEAR THOSE SCREAMS. YOU WILL FEEL THAT PAIN. OHHH WHAT A COOL PUNISHMENT THAT IS#its still an olive branch in a sense! a final chance for big bro bell to show that hes NOT an irrideemable piece o shit. and if not#well. to the wolves of psychosis with him!!! i really think william did the best he could here. if i was in his shoes i have no doubt i-#-woulda done the same. IM ALSO GLAD THAT VYN DECIDED TO STICK AROUND N SUPPORT HIM! thas character development baybe!!#i loooove prime defenders.. its been so long since i watched any eps of it but i KNOW it still has such a grip on my heart..GOTTA rewatch i
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Take a good look⌠with Gyo.
#togashi NOT fucking around with the new chapter omg#the way this was only the second most frightening thing Iâve seen today#the first of course being the insane nose dive in animation quality uzumaki took#ah well at least we have episode 1 â¨#but on topic Iâm so glad hxh is back and that togashi is not just able to work again but to work at such a high level again đĽ°#I donât even mind Text x Text but like panels like this are why I hate when people say hxh should just finish out as a novel#the writing in hxh is solid but the way its art shifts around from sketchy and playful to detailed and horrifying is one of its many charms#and is something the anime adaptation actually really misses out on in the name of uniform character modeling#togashiâs versatility as an artist is so wonderful and is a huge part of why I also suggest reading hxh even if youâve seen the anime#hxh#hunter x hunter#hxh spoilers#hunter x hunter spoilers#hxh 401#if I didnât have work tomorrow I wouldâve spent more time and effort redrawing the bits where there were bubbles#but you get this hasty edit instead lmao
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time to make your choice only you can be the one
#undescribed#bonk.png#ggg#great god grove#great god grove spoilers#ggg spoilers#<- bc of king n hand gesturing stuff for the au this one gets the spoiler tag#caption is a line from legend of everfree from eg movie of the same name bc its now linked to ggg for me bc of brainrot#first au stuff i dont like have anything really planned out n also dont really plan on doing anything with this beyond doodles#settled on inspekta being a horse bc i want him capochin patty n king to all be earth ponies bc of like permanent having it ingrained from#being an mlp fan as a kid that earth ponies are seen as less special bc they cant use magic or fly n that fits for story similarities#bc inspekta n capochin hating on patty for projection reasons AND inspekta's replacement anxiety n envy of king who in the au#is the only other earth pony lined up to become an alicorn (bc again being specifically an fim fan since i was a kid ingrained in with fanon#that ponies that become alicorns are almost exclusively pegasus or unicorn bc of earth ponies not having as clear of a connection to magic)#in my mind patty is the main character like the bizzyboys are also main characters but its like how the mane six are the main six but#twilight is the MAIN main character its like that n then godpoke is her sidekick (like spike ig but like mysterious stranger style <- idk#what i mean by this) she gets to be the protag bc the type of character godpoke is in the game n how im fitting them to be in the au doesnt#really work for a protag role while patty can be more readily slotted into mlp protag shes the only bizzyboy who cares about solving in the#game (as shown in hobbyhoo) n i like her so she gets to be the protag v-v inspekta is still doing the whole like shit from the game just in#a different way bc of mlp related restrictions n tone differences. the episode where luna goes to nightmare night after being freshly reform#ed walked so milldread section could run however cobigail's deal does run closer to that episode that to the game counterpart but like witho#ut cob having been banished for a thousand years theres no rift in the au bc its. mlp so sort of vague direction is related to the tree of#harmony n like maybe thats how inspekta powers up for the two parter transformation. a thought i had for a workaround for how inspekta keeps#king isolated was maybe turning king to stone n hiding her in plain sight but while that would slide in mlp (they turn a child to stone in t#he series finale apparently??) it leaves a bad taste in my mouth from the ggg angle so probably gonna do something else#art comments both inspekta n cobigail's pony names are taken from ponies i already had inspekta's comes from a different mlpied thing#n cobigail's comes from a fankid (spelled like kandi corn tho bc fankid's a rave girlie) the rest of the gods get to keep their names aside#from maybe bauhauzzo (whos role is undecided) huzzle n click clack arent ponies bc i felt it suited them more huzzle gets to be discordesc#bc i think its fun if like this versions god of chaos wasnt evil BUT that angle is used as slander against huzzle by inspekta#n click clack's a breezy bc small n bratty (we will be ignoring that breezies are mortal if i remember right bc thats not relevant)
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