#this is about the dean wearing his heart on his sleeve i'm assuming?

[shallowseeker]

Dean is a lot of things, but super transparent and open isn't one of them. You're contributing to a trendy rewrite of Dean and influencing fandom in ways that just don't reflect what we see on screen.

I get where you’re coming from—Dean isn’t always the most emotionally transparent guy on the surface, and his wariness is definitely a big part of his character. That said, I personally think Dean’s performance of toughness/gruffness pulls the wool over some viewers’ eyes. Dean’s time in Hell, in particular, made him more protective of his vulnerabilities, adding to the tougher exterior he develops over time. It’s not that I don’t think Dean isn't guarded; he absolutely is. But I think he’s far more open than some parts of fandom paint him, and even more open than he sometimes portrays himself. Dean chooses to be selective about who he shows his vulnerabilities to, which is a consistent part of his character.

It's also important to acknowledge those times he’s been open only to get shut down (ahem, especially in Season 7, by Sam, Bobby, and Eliot Ness). I think his close family members are terrified that his grief will lead to his death during a hunt, so they balk at it, encouraging him to lock his emotions down tight.

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Of note, I think Mary struggles with a similar issue. She says, “I know I can be cold,” yet she’s often incredibly honest about her actual emotions. In fact, Mary is one of the first characters to answer honestly when people ask if she’s okay: “No.” (Dean will in fact mirror her example in 13x06). I even think her “I love you” during her would-be death scene with Billie in 12x09 inspires moments like Cas’s “I love you—I love all of you” during the fight with Ramiel in 12x12.

Like Dean, Mary downplays her own emotional intelligence and her own keenness to both read and reach out to others. All in all, I think these two are far more emotionally generous and intuitive than they give themselves credit for, even if they struggle to acknowledge or articulate it when they get too overwhelmed.

As for what we see on screen... For the record, I like to think that I do a decent job of referencing specific moments in the script or episode when I talk about Dean's emotions or openness. Even if you don't interpret things as I do, I hope you can see my perspective.

/// Just as a point of contrast, I don’t think Sam is as emotionally intuitive as he’s often credited to be, and I think sometimes even Dean gives Sam too much credit. We see this particularly in Don’t You Forget About Me, where Dean instinctively builds rapport with Jody, empathizing with her and even pitching in to help with the dishes as they commiserate over their girls’ behavioral problems. Interestingly, this rears its head again in Ladies Drink Free, with Sam's intellectualizing of emotions being a point of contention.

Dean’s ability to both read people and connect emotionally often goes underappreciated, even by himself.

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Bonus: I actually think Cas is also far more emotionally intuitive than he gives himself credit for, even with the billions of years of suppress-or-die under his belt. Cas often deploys a distinctly reciprocal style of communication, revealing a personal failing or emotion to encourage others to open up about their own failings. We see it with the original "I'm not a hammer / I have doubts" scene with Dean, we see it in a big way with Jack in Tombstone, and interestingly, we even see it with the news anchor here.

[le-trash-prince]

For lack of better things to do with my life, I’ve been staring at various frames of Jeff’s visions, trying to figure out what is going on/who ppl are in some of the shots, and I figured I'd post about it in case anyone wanted to discuss or guess with me

cut for heavy speculation. No actual spoilers plz, this is just based off of onscreen information, stuff that's already aired (any conclusions I can draw based off outfits in bts footage have been excluded)

okay so in Jeff’s last vision after leaving Tony’s place, we see Kenta attacking someone with a knife

This person has a ring on their right hand, so at first I assumed it would be Tony, and who wouldn’t WANT it to be Tony, right?

Except Tony wears a ring on the first finger of his right hand, and this person has it on the third finger. So… not Tony, unless there’s costuming inconsistencies going on.

So who wears a ring on that finger? *cue sinking feeling in my stomach*

Pete wears a ring on that finger. Which makes it highly possible that this is Pete who Kenta is attacking, which means I could very well get my heart torn to shreds with some friends/maybe-lovers to enemies tragic shit. *stares at the wall*

With Kenta seemingly targeting Pete in the upcoming ep, maybe we’ll see this scene on Friday, maybe not. Whatever happens, if it is Pete, I hope it fucking wrecks me.

Thoughts on this??? The only other person I've noticed with rings is Dean, but he's got two rings on two fingers, and also I don't see why or how Kenta would be attacking Dean.

This is possibly the same fight scene, possibly not (maybe Kenta just goes stab happy idk), but anyways this person has a dark long-sleeved shirt and a dark jacket on top of that, which matches with what we've seen Pete wear.

I'm open to the possibility that it could be literally anyone and also that it's potentially not as it seems, since the vision of Charlie's death was obviously not Charlie actually dying.

Also, there’s another person in Jeff’s vision that I’m like? Who the fuck is this...

Random journalist/paparazzi? Jeff’s spy? A spy of Tony’s? Like literally who are you sir???

And one last mystery person is this, who I am once again assuming to be Tony (PLEASE let this one be Tony for the love of god). We've seen Tony in some brown suits, although the only one I've gotten a clear view of has different buttons than this. He's also the only one we've seen in suits like this at all, so I think it's at least intended for us to assume it's Tony, right? But again, it could be misdirection. But please someone stab Tony, FOR ME THANKS.

Anyways, that's all I've got. Teasers and such like this are often misleading, and we have literally zero context for these shots, but I think it's fun to do the guesswork. First watchthroughs are really the only time we get to speculate, after all.

[postmodernmulticoloredcloak]

Heyo!

How do you think Castiel and Dean would react to meeting Steve and Bucky and vice versa? Who would get along with who? Who relates to who better? For the purposes of the ask please pretend neithers gayness has been REDACTED

Oooh hello there! What an interesting question! For the sake of this answer, I will put Steve and Bucky into a universe that's closer to the spn universe than the mcu universe, because putting Dean and Sam in a universe with aliens and stuff feels too much (I also don't care about the mcu universe as a whole). So Steve and Bucky's story is kinda the same but just without the whole non-earth side of the mcu lol.

Sooo... Dean would WORSHIP Captain America and the Howling Commandoes! American heroes that fought against the nazis? I also imagine that when Dean grew up - the 80s - a lot of, you know, 80s-style badly made animated series, campy action movies, figurines and toys about the Howling Commandoes would ba made, and those would be totally up Dean's alley (not Sam, who would tease Dean for being so obsessed with something that Sam would see as cringey lol).

I'm not saying that Captain America would be Dean's first crush, but like. Super strong warrior type with blue eyes? I mean.

I also assume that pop culture between 1945 and when Steve was found and came back would totally hide/erase any hints of queerness that sources about Steve and Bucky's lives might suggest, but Dean is a smart bean and would se the subtext and the unspoken eroticism of the whole devotion between brothers in arms. So he wouldn't be exactly surprised when Steve's queerness would come to light...

Cas would be jealous. Trying to hide it but not succeeding much. He would warm up to Steve eventually, I guess, but it would take him a moment :p

On the other side, I think that Steve and Bucky would warm up to Dean faster than to Cas (who is kind of an acquired taste... well, he doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve like Dean does, and it takes time to get to know the real him). Dean would be familiar with 30s-40s pop culture and army culture due to his crush special interest in the era, so Steve and Bucky would find him funny and likeable albeit a little starstruck/with rose-tinted glasses about those times he's learnt so much about through cinema and tv (see Dean meeting Eliot Ness), but Dean would be so earnest about it that they would just find it adorable. (For the sake of this argument I'm assuming they meet in circumstances where they'd be able to genuinely connect and not be hindered by emotional baggage.)

If they really got to bond and open up with each other, then Cas and Bucky would relate so much to each other. Both brainwashed and manipulated and used by the villains, both broken through the brainwashing thanks to their love for an American boy with a giant heart and little sense of self-preservation and determination to sell... Of course this would happen only after they'd see the other as worthy of trusting with their emotional vulnerability.

Basically if the circumstances of their encounter allow for really getting to know each other and opening up to one another, they would all adore each other, in slightly different ways depending on the way each would connect to another.

Technically Sam would have potential to connect to Steve and Bucky too, but if both couples are open about their being a couple, then Sam would simply be the straight brother of one of the guys lol. Then again, if Sam hangs out with them also with Eileen, then Steve and Bucky would adore Eileen (who doesn't) so Sam would get a chance to hang out with the group too. But I think that Steve and Bucky would vibe more with the queer dudes, it feels more realistic lol.

You all are welcome to share your thoughts on the matter!!