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Literally never gonna get over Mat doing the ‘this edible ain’t shit’ routine with Ishamael’s evil hallucinate-your-guilt-complex tea.
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clearancecreedwatersurvival · 4 months ago
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You are not ready for book three Mat Cauthon, he WILL steal your heart and you will like it. As soon as he gets past the dagger curse he becomes The Best, a well deserved fan favorite.
does matrim cauthon ever stop being the fuckin worst? cause i'm almost halfway through the great hunt and jesus christ
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Look the real reason so many book fans are mad about the wheel of time adaptation instead of having a great time with it regardless of changes, is that the production is putting a very strong focus on updating the worldbuilding and characters in specific ways, as well as changing individual events in favor of a more streamlined way to make The Same character beats happen.
Because this is an adaptation to film, and of course they have to change stuff. Come on people. Be realistic. You know how long the series is.
And there are parts of the book series that Do need updating. RJ was trying to be as progressive as he could in a lot of his approach to the series, but what was progressive in the 90s is not as progressive now so of course they are updating it. If you didn’t think this show was gonna have queer people and polyamory then sorry about it. Dear Mr. Jordan was Really Good at writing romantic relationships between women when he thought he was just writing friendships, he did it A Couple times. I would Bet Money on Avilayne becoming canon. This series is being created by a queer showrunner he is absolutely doing a queer reading of these books. Which I am Very Here For.
And he is doing a reading, and changing things. Which again, is Necessary. The book series is Super long and they have 8 seasons to do it in. They’re gonna change individual events to make sure that the main characters go through all the necessary character beats. And you’re just being recalcitrant if you can’t admit that season two Rules in a lot of ways. They are still making sure every important character has all their moments. And each individual episode has focused on some of the most powerful themes of the Entire book series. Including the inherent tragedies inherent to channelers such as: being cut off from the one power in various ways through shielding and stilling, having their own control of the one power taken over by others through weaves and ter’angreal, and living extended lifespans and thus leaving behind their loved ones. They’re doing a Very good job of keeping to the core themes and character beats and also changing stuff around to make the story work on a shorter time frame.
Also they’re working really hard to make sure Every character is as well fleshed out as possible. Meaning that yes, a lot of focus is being spent so far on the other main pov characters and all of the important aes sedai who will matter in the conflicts to come. That’s a good thing. Sorry to the people who only cared about the ta’veren boys or whatever but RJ wrote a ton of interesting and powerful women and they’re all getting their Due in this adaptation that is a feature not a bug.
It’s not like there isn’t stuff to be improved in the original! There is a huge chunk of the wheel of time that a lot of fans refer to as the slog! Where most of the main characters are separated and the plot is barely moving so some characters only show up in like two chapters of a single book, because there are so many individual things happening, before the plot starts moving faster again towards the end of the series. (And then there’s the crimes committed by Mr. Sanderson on the last three books but we’re not going to talk about that right now.
Which personally I would disagree that the slog is where the series is least enjoyable. The section I usually skip when rereading is the first two books, #having a great time right now actually with the show skipping through as much of the minutiae of books I and II as they can. The wheel of time is not a perfect series and Robert Jordan kept trying to finish it in one to three books at first and the first two books suffer as a result.
If you stopped reading in books one or two PLEASE just try to make it to three Trust Me. Or just watch the show and then read the battle of falme in book II and then read book III. You will appreciate books one and two more on a reread after all the stuff he does bring up there has really paid off. And also just have fun watching your faves be more happy than they are in later books ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The show is not Trying to be the books and frankly I’m glad it’s not! This is another turning of the wheel, another version of events, a parallel universe to the randland of the books. And I think they’re doing a pretty brilliant job of telling a version of that story so far this season.
Adaptations will change things. That’s a good thing. Judge it on executing the ideas it is bringing up and staying true to the core of the character arcs and themes of the original. And frankly it’s enhancing a lot of character arcs right now. There are many things that I think the show is already doing better than the books did tbh (Min, Liandrin, Selene, making Perrin spend less time dithering about the Wolf Stuff, speeding up Mat’s healing from the dagger so my best boy gets more time to shine)
Adaptations are transformative works. To lesser and greater degrees they reinterpret a work through a different artistic lens and medium. The changes are not bad because they are changes. Judge it on the execution of the story it’s actually telling instead of a close comparison to the books. And they are keeping as true to the books as they can whether you acknowledge that or not.
If you’re a person who reads fanfiction but you can’t judge a film adaptation for what it is instead of what it’s not then please try Slightly harder.
And if you’re just mad that it’s all queer and polyamorous now and the boys aren’t the only main characters then die mad I guess. I will continue having a pretty great time watching this show chock full of extremely powerful (and sometimes evil) women. I think RJ would have liked it tbh.
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I cannot stress enough how much I am going to be insufferable when we get to the battle of cairhrien in the show.
Matrim Cauthon attempting to run the fuck away from the huge battle where his friends are fighting and accidentally do-gooding his way into becoming a general is my favorite bit of the entire book series. I apologize in advance for the person I will become in a few years whenever the show does their take on it.
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Hello hello, It’s a great day to stan Mat Cauthon!!! I love winning.
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Can’t believe this finale gave me literally everything I could have wanted for Mat. The foreshadowing of the ashandarei and fighting with a makeshift spear, the perfect scene with the horn, the old tongue battle cry, I’m akjahgsodcajhsflajdsbfaodks
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If I stay focused on the 2 minutes of joyous cauthor reunion then the 50ish minutes of angst and suffering surrounding it cannot harm me. Did you see the smile on Mat’s face? Wow.
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I said we were gonna get Mat’s big character moments at the end of the season since he was barely in the first several episodes and I was right!!! Peace and love on planet earth!!!!!!!!!!
Now all I need is for Mat to get his actual ashandarei and also a hat and then also an army next season, and I will at last ascend beyond this mortal plane, and be the most obnoxious I have ever been on this website. I will not shut up about it for years. Possibly ever.
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Me after every episode: I enjoyed it but I would have enjoyed it more with more mat in it.
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If mat is already leaving the tower and we don’t get SOME variation of the ‘mat defeats two warder-trained princes with a stick’ scene I will riot.
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Do I think mat and tuon are objectively terrible for each other even while finding their romance quite compelling? Yes.
Do I think post-canon mat should destroy the Seanchan empire from the inside and they can have a dramatic lovers to enemies deathmatch about it? Also yes.
But wow does the wheel of time have the funniest accidental marriage plotline possible. My man spends like 5 books being like ‘no fucking way am I marrying a Royal I will run the fuck away’ and then he accidentally begins their marriage ceremony the second he meets her.
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If we don’t get some serious Mat content tonight I’m gonna start biting.
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Gonna be thinking about Mat Stuff for like. Weeks probably.
I’m definitely rereading the books now. I haven’t reread the entire series since a memory of light was released but Oh Boy am I gonna reread it now.
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Is this a sex thing or a murder thing alskchsCKLJsnbclkaJNkaj MAT
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Mat is so fucking funny and I love him SO MUCH
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clearancecreedwatersurvival · 11 months ago
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Fundamentally correct take, non mat enjoyers I simply do not understand you, he is So Funny.
Also for the record since I wasn’t exactly clear, I didn’t intend for the first point to come off like I’m saying no one’s allowed to skip stuff ever, obviously people can do whatever, chase your bliss. I was mostly commenting on how often wot fans, in particular on reddit, admit to skipping specifically the women’s POVs on first and rereads, and/or hating the main female characters in general. Just some blatant misogyny tbh.
Which is extra wild to me because like, the fact that Robert Jordan was a popular male fantasy author capable of writing interesting and complex female characters at all is tbh. A huge factor in why I have read wot multiple times but never finished most other well known sff series that I tried.
Number one red flag for someone reading wot is saying they hate all the female characters (and usually skip their povs)
Number two red flag is someone reading multiple books of wot and saying they hate rand. How. Why did you keep reading it then????
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