#this has nothing to do with nana and hachi but they are forever on my mind
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satosugusbowlofcereal Ā· 8 months ago
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hey. hey how do i cope when the trope is two characters who were clearly meant to be together and look deeply into each others eyes every chance they get and know each other in ways no one else can and are very obviously shipped together by the writers and are literally WRITTEN FOR EACHOTHER and desperately in love but they cant be because censorship is a cockblocker please send help soon I'm loosing it
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exo-raskreia Ā· 5 months ago
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Imma rant about Ichigo and Orihime cuz your blog has waken a outrageous fire in me!! And rightfully so! I agree with literally everything you said(btw Karin and hitsugaya are endgame for me toošŸ¤­šŸ¤­)
Ichihime makes literal sense and it genuinely sucks as a ship and i don't get why the shippers are satisfied with the results. I asked my friend who he wanted to be endgame and answered Ichigo and Orihime cuz they are a better fit. LITERALLY HOW?!! I didn't go psycho on him cuz if Ichigo and Rukia ain't your cup of tea then fine. But why are people answers automatically always Ichihime?? Is it cuz they are canon??? Where the hell was the build-up for it then?! It is nothing compare to ichigo/rukia or orihime with tatsuki/uryu. Idk if Kubo was trying to punk us by pairing them up or not. I feel like he didn't plan our their relationship properly! People say it was obvious from the beginning that ichigo likes her back but i sure as hell didn't see it! Maybe i'm just salty and refused to see the signs cuz Ichiruki is the best ship( and i had a crush on ichigo since forever soooo... ļæ½ļ潚Ÿ˜–) ?? I've always been a rukia and ichigo fan rather cuz they actually had the chemistry and insane connection. I'm so mad that they weren't endgame. My girl Rukia was elite why didn't Ichigo went for her and vice versa?? Don't get me started on the poems, the speechs, the way ichigo always and always thinks of rukia. Like the ingredients for the cake was perfect, why the hell would you put gasoline in therešŸ’€šŸ’€
Some people say that cuz the show is shounen and not a romance, i shouldn't be upset about ichihime ending up together and not be mad of lack of their romance. I'm not expecting ichigo and orihime to have some epic EPIC love story or anything just make it more sense for ME at least. If Ichihime was some side-ship then i wouldn't care as much, but this is the MC of the show i want to see something greater than what we received! If they were to have a love story(ya know a real one) then they should've played it out like in Fruits basket
Ichigo and orihime actually remind me alot of kyo and tohru from fruits basket. And they're all very similar to think about it! Ichigo and Kyo: the grumpy orange haired protecters that have a heart of gold. Orihime and Tohru: the loveable sunshine character that are super traumatized but still manage to keep smiling. The only difference is that Kyo and Tohru actually have the emotional moments and had the chemistry and ya know they actually TALKED and were ACTUAL FRIENDS(as in kyo didn't treat tohru like a acquaintance) before dating. But since Orihime is so much like Ichigo's dead mom, their relationship would've been like Yuki and Tohru. I know the comparison might be dumb to do cuz they are very different anime and different genre but still!! Excuse me for caring so much about that my fav ain't canon. Yes this is a shounen anime but they could've at least squeezed in a bit of the love story of the mc to show they actually care about it. The MC of the show has a better and stronger bond with his bestie than his own wife. Like how is my girl Orihime not bothered by it?! Should've end up Tatsuku i swear. I mean they're literally Nana and Hachi!! šŸ“šŸ¶āœØ
I feel like orihime just exist to be his love interest and that's it! Girl had the potential to be a great character that ain't always there to be the love interest. Her becoming a housewife was insulting cuz what do you mean she ain't a robot destroying a city (i can't remember that scene from the earlier seasons but something in between those linesšŸ¤£) I do like Orihime enough but not that much cuz it's Ichigo this and Ichigo that. Like girl i get it. I wanted(and still do) him too but don't settle for being the second choice) HOMEGIRL YOU HAVE OTHER LUCKY DUCKS THAT WANNA BE WITH YOU!!
And another thing: I read somewhere that: just cuz Uryu had a crush Orihime that, that doesn't mean that Orihime should be together with him.... Okay then why can't that also imply to Ichigo and Orihime?? Like why just cuz "She'll fall for him in every lifetime" doesn't mean that he has to do the same too!! Rukia is already the queen of his heart mind you
BUT ANYWAYS!! It's a shounen after all so i shouldn't be expecting the mc to have a well-written love story and not to have high hopes of the MC love interest to be something more than that. But whatever at the end of the day they're CANON and have a kid together so all i can do is cry about it and live in fanfiction.
Ahem, I'm done with my rant thank you šŸ˜Œ (And yes anti-IchiRuki fans I'll still be salty in my 40s cuz of the ending and I will never shut up about it just cuz they have canonically have kids)
No worries, anon! You've come to the right place! Let it all out~
Not surprised your male friend would choose Ori. Typical. For dudes like him, her appearance, superficial crush on Ichigo, & the word "canon" being slapped on are enough for them, despite there not being any actual chemistry between IH. It is also a common trope in other manga/anime, so they convince themselves that it was meant to happen, but it doesn't mean it makes sense for every story, especially not in Bleach's case; it doesn't make narrative sense if they actually looked into it.
(Canon ā‰  good. Just look up what went wrong in 'How I Met Your Mother' or even 'Game Of Thrones' S8).
(While on the subject, since Rukia is a much better written character than Ori, if she had a body like Ori's, & Ori like Rukia's, even less dudes would care about IH šŸ«¢, since they never even have good arguments in favor of it that aren't the 3 things I mentioned already up top).
Ichigo & Rukia had the most chemistry in the entire manga/anime, & it baffles me when people didn't/don't (wanna) see it. I went into Bleach almost blind when I first started watching it & IR really stood out. Their bond is right in your face, playing along the border between platonic & romantic, making you wonder what exactly it is, but knowing they aren't just mere friends. In the manga, I was constantly awed & amused by how borderline romantic it came off as, despite having already watched the anime (which did not do the manga justice in many ways; and then antis claim IR was mostly anime-based, PLEASE šŸ™„). Kubo really wasn't playing when it came to these 2. What a freakin' troll.
Haven't watched Fruits Basket, but I can see what you mean. Grumpy & Sunshine is a fun trope, however, as you said, IH just didn't have what it takes. If Kubo had wanted to, he could have properly developed IH at some points in the manga, such as the Fullbring arc, & it wouldn't have to be anything big, as Bleach is not a romance. He could have opened the arc with those 2 already going out, like them holding hands as they head to school or something, maybe showing some flashbacks of them talking things out, comforting each other since HM to show how they got together. Instead, in those 17 months since Ichigo lost his powers & contact with Rukia, you're telling me Kubo couldn't make IH bond? Instead, Ori's still pathetically pining after him while Ichigo is still thinking of, longing for, Rukia! How am I supposed to believe IH was meant to be endgame?!
Orihime had more chemistry with other people than the man she ended up with šŸ’€. I personally ship her with 2 other men (Ishida & Ulquiorra). She was different with them. One selflessly cared for her, had her at the forefront of his mind in her own rescue arc (unlike Ichigo), while the other challenged her, found her fascinating & wanted to learn more... Not to mention they both protected her from Ichigo a couple times in the HM arc.
She really did have potential to be a great character but it all kept going down the drain, never achieved her dreams nor goals. She kept regressing as the story went on, especially when it came to Ichigo. She was never able to encourage him nor fully support him & was usually a complete damsel in his presence (he even seemed annoyed by her during the Ywach fight, which mind u, she was only there cuz there was no one else left & Ichigo had no choice?). She was more interesting whenever she wasn't around him. All her best moments were when she wasn't thinking about him. Saving Tatsuki? Bonding with Ishida in SS, standing in front of him to protect him in the Fullbring arc? Bonding with Ulquiorra (the only good thing she did the whole HM arc)? She could've done more in HM but didn't. In TYBW, she didn't do anything special, couldn't even encourage Ichigo & was treated like a ragdoll by Ywach. This is how Kubo wanted us to remember her. She was mostly reduced to fanservice by the end (and she's still not as popular as Matsumoto or Yoruichi in that department šŸ’€). I sometimes think he didn't like her all that much with how he treated her character...
While watching the anime, I seriously had been hoping she'd get over Ichigo in the SS arc when she wistfully said Rukia was a very special person to him who changed his world (oh, boy, was I in for disappointment). Right off the bat, there was nothing interesting/exciting about her interactions with Ichigo (I was shipping her with Ishida by this point). He was just so blasƩ with her, I almost felt bad for her & it only kept getting worse. I then hoped she'd finally get over him after the traumatic experience at the dome in HM, but her ongoing silly crush made my eyes roll & lose hope in it. LIKE GIRL, HE'S HUNG UP ON ANOTHER GIRL, & U SHOULD'VE STOPPED PUTTING HIM ON A PEDESTAL BY NOW; HE'S NO PRINCE CHARMING & ESPECIALLY NOT FOR U WHEN HE BARELY GAVE U A SECOND THOUGHT IN UR OWN RESCUE ARC & ALMOST GOT U KILLED LIKE 3 TIMES & U HAD TO GET SAVED BY ULQUIORRA & ISHIDA, LIKE-
Orihime doesn't have anything in common with Masaki other than maybe their appearance (which imo, Masaki looks more like short-haired Matsumoto anyway?). Besides the cheerful part, their personalities are very different. Masaki was more like Rukia: brave, strong, selfless, teasing & annoying Isshin/Ichigo, etc... IR has actual dynamic parallels with IsshiMasa in the narrative... Kubo just copied IR moments, especially considering he wrote as he went... So, don't be fooled by those morons who go by appearance alone & even those weird lines in one of the novels (Oedipus complex anyone?) instead of the legitimate parallels between IR & IM shown in the manga, such as these:
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What was going thru Kubo's head if he supposedly "intended" for IH to happen? Ichigo & Ori had more chemistry with other characters than with each other. Kubo went about this all wrong. Bleach not being a romance is no excuse for shoddily pairing up characters in the end. In a few scenes scattered throughout the manga, he could've implied them. Every time they interacted, their relationship should've progressed somehow. And he actually did this with IchiRuki. (In regards to Naruto, for example, Kishimoto at least admitted he didn't put enough effort into his ships by saying romance was not his forte & he's not good at writing female characters, but at least most of the ships made sense & esp NaruHina had actual good moments scattered throughout the manga...).
Sigh, I've said this before, but why can't more battle shounens be like Fairy Tail when it comes to developing the ships throughout the story? There'd be less drama. Even Gintama did a better job at developing the main ships, lol, that if they became canon, hardly anyone would've been surprised (they were somewhat implied if u squint, tho šŸ¤Ŗ).
There are theories Kubo wanted to spite Shounen Jump for their treatment over the years so he ended things this way (and maybe to spite the fans too, since his manga sales had been on the decline for years). Ever heard of the "choosing unhappiness" theories? Basically, remember that Ywach said he'd come back at Ichigo's happiest moment? Well, he didn't come back at Ichigo's wedding with Ori, not even at the birth of his son. He came back when Ichigo reunited with RUKIA after 10 years.
So what could this be telling us? That Ichigo chose to be unhappy by not getting with the one person who made him the happiest. Rukia gave him that push by choosing unhappiness first (since she knew Ichigo couldn't make the first attempt to) & married Renji, who in turn, also gave Ichigo that push to go for Ori. IR chose unhappiness to defeat Ywach. Could this actually be what Urahara meant when he said he'd leave everything to "Kurosaki-san & Kuchiki-san" after his defeat in TYBW?! (we deserved the IR tag-team we never got in the final fight, screw Kubo)
One could also say his friends chose unhappiness to help too? Ishida becoming a doctor he'd never expressed interest in & seeming isolated from the friend group (maybe not agreeing with the farce they're all in), Chad becoming a boxer instead of using his fists to protect, Ori marrying a man who doesn't love her & she knows never will, Renji marrying a woman who doesn't love him & never will (and whom I think he doesn't love either? My view on that here)... Isshin is nowhere in sight, could it be he also doesn't wanna be a part of this farce in which his own son chose to marry a woman he doesn't love?
Still, everything about this ending is so wrong, makes no sense, a bunch of retcons too. Heck, remember the rebuilding of Sokyoku Hill in SS? Made Ichigo destroying it meaningless šŸ™„.
Anyway, I didn't mean for this post to be too long. There's so much to rant about lol. There's also so much to make fun of šŸ‘€. As I said in this post, IH was never popular & never will be. Kubo himself can't bring himself to give them content & his affiliates (like Shounen Jump, Studio Pierrot, etc.) can't be bothered either, as IH doesn't sell. Canon for almost 10 years & still no official couple/family arts nor merch šŸ˜‚. If they end up getting thrown a bone in the future, the fact it took them that long would still be laughable.
In the end, it's best to ignore canon, its fans, & engage with what you like. It also doesn't hurt to sometimes make fun of Bleach's failures~ Kubo has made it so easy, can you blame us? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
Also, glad u like HitsuKarin as well šŸ¤­. Would you believe it's my #1 Bleach OTP? I had brainrot for it a few years ago, like I literally scoured almost every bit of content that I could find, & while it's died down, I just know that if Kubo &/or his affiliates were to feed us HK content now, I'd eat it up like a starving dog-
Sorry for the late reply, anon! šŸ˜“ Been having brainrot for a different fandom, if u can guess
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seiryuuuz Ā· 4 months ago
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here to talk about shin from nana again iā€™m very attached to him like he means the world to me itā€™s so sad to me seeing what he has to deal with and what he has to go through knowing heā€™s a kid and he deserves more than the world has given him i will forever stand by that and the fact that at such a young age he had to resort to what he did to make money is so upsetting and donā€™t get me wrong i love nana, hachi, nobu, and yasu a lot but i also feel the adults in his life couldā€™ve done more to teach him or care for him because he didnā€™t have any parents that would look after him or love him or treat him the way he deserved to be treated and in all honesty if i was them i would never allow him to do that i would take him in and pay for him to be able to live a comfortable life so he doesnā€™t have to resort to the things he does to have money and some of the comments he makes throughout the whole series makes me upset like him like him saying he wishes he was never born no one should ever have to think that especially a kid as sweet as shin and people can say otherwise but shin was always so sweet yes he did make those comments to nana but in a way thatā€™s her own fault for saying what she said to shin she shouldā€™ve never said that to him i understand she was having a hard time so i canā€™t be too mad at her but this is another thing where she is a adult and heā€™s a child and he did absolutely nothing for her to say that or even excuse her for saying that and again i love nana so itā€™s not like i hate her for that and iā€™m not even exactly mad at her for that and then the comment he makes towards hachi about how he wishes he was born as her child like scenes like that just upset me because it truly shows heā€™s a kid who wants someone to love him and care for him as a mother or father would because if you remember his mother died not to long after he was born and his father didnā€™t care for him because he knew shin wasnā€™t his kid all he deserves is someone who loves and cares for him and will treat him the way he deserves and then donā€™t even get me started on reira i genuinely cannot stand her at all the fact she even went after a romantic relationship with shin is so wrong of her and so disgusting and i genuinely need her gone like six feet under i donā€™t care that she was lonely or anything there is nothing that could ever excuse her sleeping with a 15 year old sheā€™s a freak and reira she used shin and in my eyes she took advantage of him because again heā€™s a 15 year old kid but she used him because she was lonely can couldnā€™t have the one person she wanted and no matter what it was for or consensual or not she should have never slept with a 15 year old she never shouldā€™ve crossed those lines as a adult she knew better and shouldā€™ve never went after that type of relationship with him because sheā€™s a grown ass adult and heā€™s a child she knows better and kids his age and especially what heā€™s gone through can be easily manipulated i donā€™t know how their whole thing ends as iā€™m not finished yet i have two episodes but i genuinely need reira gone and away from shin forever and in the end i just want shin happy, loved, and cared for like he deserves his character means a lot to me and i wish i could give him the world my silly son
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nanafics Ā· 3 years ago
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Icarus, part 1
Nana x Hachiko
notes: this ff will contain spoilers. in all honesty, i haven't finished the manga yet, but i have faint ideas of whatā€™s happening in it from where the anime has ended ((++ english is not my first language, so please pardon me if the sentences or wordings are weird or chaotic))
Hachiko's pov
Exactly six years has passed since the last time that I saw this face. The last thing I remember about it was how beautiful it was under the moonlight. Now, I was finally seeing it again and it wasnā€™t shone by the moonlight anymore. This time, her features were lit by the pub spotlight, the perfect spot for her as the band's lead vocalist.
I can't believe my eyes. I wanted to run, like I always do. To face away from the reality that it might actually be her, that she was here, her body, herself. It's her. Finally.
In the brief moment that I contemplated leaving the pub and getting back to the hotel to my daughter, she caught my eyes. I was mesmerized by its glossiness, its darkness, how black it was that my feet felt like they were stuck in the ground. We used to joke around and called her a cat, more specifically a wild leopard following her shiny eyes and foxy looks. I suppose it really fits her, everything about her seems perfectly put together.
Hey Nana, is this the right choice? I could still run away, now. I could leave while you're still singing, forgetting that this ever happened. Returning to my daughter, my son and to the arm of a man I realized a while ago I never wanted to be with. Is this it? Will this be my last time seeing your face, without ever having a chance of giving you a proper goodbye?
I could feel she sensed my indecisiveness because from that moment on, she focused her eyes on me, the whole time that she was singing. That exact moment reminds me of the time when Nana conducted a special performance with Nobu in our kitchen, their first time performing this song. It gave me butterflies the same way it did the last times. This time though, there was no Nobu, no Shin and no Yasu. Just Nana and a foreign band. Still, in this very short period, I felt like everything was back to normal. That we were all still together. BLAST and Nana and me, all sitting on our little table.
I suppose the surrealness of this circumstances really strucked me that only after a few moments later, I realised Nana was already right infront of me. The music has stopped and the dim light has been switched back on in the pub.
"Hachi..." She called my name with that melancholic tones of hers. My heart started to feel heavy and I felt like I was loosing my balance. A mixed of emotions was spread across her face. I might have seen tears in her eyes, but I couldn't be too sure since my own eyes were already flooded with it.
"Hachi..." She called me again, this time she was slowly embracing me in a hug. Her hug felt warm, warmer than any embrace I've been in. That was the most relieved I had felt over the past few years.
"Nana, I..." I choked on my own tears that I couldn't bring myself to say it. The words stuck in my throat, not allowing the 1001 things I wanted to say to her.
"Hachiko, was- was this a mistake? I'm sorry if you wanted to leave and it looked like I didn't allow you to." There was visible unevenness in the tones of her voice, like she was about to burst into tears and break down right there and then, but only stopped because I did it first. She slowly released me from her embrace but I wasn't going to allow that. I pulled her tighter, not allowing any space between us.
"Nana, no. I want to be here, I want to see you. You didn't have to apologize." Nana was always like this, restricting herself from saying what she really wanted. Even then when Ren was still alive and they were together, she would always suppress her wants in fear he'd leave her for demanding too much or too often.
We stayed in that position for a few moments. No one was talking and it felt better that way. It felt like our souls were finally connecting again, no words were needed to mend them back together. I'm sure Nana felt it too. Had one of us realized this six years ago, we wouldn't have to go through the suffering and pain we have endured right up until this moment.
Of course, there were moments in the past six years that brought light in my heart, like the ones I had been having with my daughter, or the few days every month that I get to spend with my son while Takumi runs around Tokyo to inspect his production companies. I was grateful to be blessed with such beautiful children. There was nothing in the world that felt better than the moments when I am the mother of Ichinose Ren and Ichinose Satsuki.
Though at this very moment, all I could and would want to think of was Nana who was in front of me. This was the only chance we have of fixing what we had left behind all those years ago, and I knew she realized it too. She took my hands and guide me to the backstage. I felt at peace knowing she had taken the first move because if she hadn't, we would probably have stayed that way forever.
"Down for a drink at my place? I've got some strawberry glasses you could use. That, if you still want to use it," She chuckled a little upon looking at my stricken face. I thought Nana had forgotten about it.
"Don't be so surprised. I found it at some Asian supermarket the other day and thought they looked cute. Come, let's get out of here," She picked up her guitar and put her free arms around my shoulder, guiding me outside to the cold air.
The fresh air felt great on my face, but it felt better because Nana was next to me. It really felt like we were back there again.
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