#this fandom really doesnt exist anymore

[lesvegas]

I was aghast as a 11 year old fallout fan. it was legitimately videos of them arguing that what the legion was all about and for is actually good for society. They were so comfortable saying all this.

I've seen some videos like that recommended to me before, haven't watched a single one but I was stupid enough to get into an argument with human pet guy about it. Anyway I believe you I'm just completely closed off from the majority of the Fallout fandom because exposing myself to a fraction of it has been a huge mistake mostly.

Actually you don't even have to be a Legion or Enclave fan for me to not engage; if you like Fallout at all I'm not talking to you unless I already know you share at least several of my specific takes and political beliefs. Fallout is a test of media literacy and then a test of endurance and oh boy have I endured.

[nandalikesstuff]

Love to see fandom events run by antis where the own author of the work wouldn't be able to participate in

[feathers-in-the-night]

I'm cursed in that everytime I post a chapter that I hope/expect to get a reaction, I get maybe 1 comment, and when I upload chapters that I assume won't get a big response I get like 5 comments lmao

[bigskydreaming]

Me venturing briefly into 911 fics after Buck came out as bi: I am BEGGING people to stop basing their entire view of two men having later-in-life gay or bi awakenings on that one fucking reddit post about the guy thinking he's homophobic after his roommate came out.

[phillip-bankss]

If it helps I have no idea who you are. I think I followed you because of a crash bandicoot drawing some years ago

im sure that's the case for most of my followers. ramble below

that's mainly why nowadays I try to draw what i want to, first and foremost, because I can't guarantee other people will care about anything i do outside of one or two doodles that tickle yer funny bone‼️

I used to be really bad about drawing stuff for fandoms I was "in" (i say "in" cus I'm atrocious with interacting with others in communities on a meaningful level) and putting all my self-worth on how people see my art. it wasn't until I realized that it ultimately doesn't matter how others will see it, because what I do isn't meaningful enough to make a lasting impression in people's minds.

im literally just some random funny fanart guy on the internet, and there's one of me born every minute. if you don't think about me, I don't exist. my goal was (initially) to set out and make people laugh with my drawings, so I can usually achieve that at least, but.. then what?

that's part of why I don't care about being known, or getting any attention or notoriety anymore, because it doesn't matter. it doesn't make me happy, and like I mentioned previously, it'll be forgotten at some point in time. i know it sounds depressing as fuck, or that im crashing out (its almost 2am so itll probably be embarrassing in retrospect when i wake up), but I've come to accept it and I'm working on embracing it.

i also hope this doesnt come across as sounding bitter or snarky towards you, you didnt do anything wrong. this is a response to your very common sentiment that others also share. I hope that in the future I can serve my purpose in filling a spot on your phone's feed with something that activates the dopamine receptors in your head, but if not, that's okay 🫶

[hitzvevo]

collection of little nightmares art i did between 2021 and 2023! i figured maybe someone out there would love to see those doodles again. they were posted on my twitter account but since it doesnt exist anymore, all doodles are kinda like, gone lmao you can still see my old @ but eh too lazy to change it LMAO

i was really happy to be part of this fandom and i'd love to come back. maybe i'll see familiar faces again!

[daehneris]

someone's probably made a post about this before, but i can't stop thinking about K-Pop Demon Hunters being a queer allegory (am i using that term right?).

the basics and most obvious being the Saja Boys' fandom being 'The Pride'. obviously Saja = Lion, and 'pride of lions', but you get what im getting at.

and then we have HUNTR/X having colors resembling the bi flag (not to mention the concept art where zoey had blue hair, so the three 100% had bi flag-colored hair), as well as rumi with her bi flag color eyeliner. even if it's not meant to be the bi colors, you can't help but think how much it looks like it.

onto the more not-so-obvious parts. my favorite scene in the movie is: "Why couldn't you love me?" "I do-" "ALL OF ME". i felt this scene so hard as someone who is trans-nonbinary, and ive heard countless stories of fellow queers and their families loving them, but not wholly and not for who they really are. especially stories of their families choosing to pretend that part of their identity doesnt exist.

we have rumi feeling shame over her identity, something out of her control, and being forced to hide that identity even from close friends, because she's afraid of how they'd react, and especially afraid of losing them. (i have personal experience with these myself)

ooh and another thing that stuck with me. in 'What It Sounds Like', rumi sings a line: "I tried to fix it, I tried to fight it." that is the experience most, if not all, queer people have when first finding out or thinking they may be queer. because we are taught growing up that being queer is wrong. so we try to "fix" ourselves, and we try to "fight" our identity

idk if KPDH was meant to be a queer allegory, but it 100% feels like one, and i cant stop thinking about it. if any of you have anymore examples to add on, feel free to share^^

[uriekukistan]

i wanna talk about this thing gege said

i’ve seen a lot of people saying that this is a bad way to write a story, and i couldnt disagree more. from a writer’s perspective, there is no reason to kill off a character if it’s not going to have impact.

in any case, i think this reaction points out two things i’ve noticed about the jjk fandom.

i. jjk fans prioritize enjoyment of characters over the plot

which is fine, i guess. i’m not gonna begrudge any readers the space to enjoy their fav characters. however, what i disagree with is the constant trashing of gege and jjk as a story because the narrative doesnt treat the characters as you want it to.

i mostly talk about these things from the perspective of someone who has been writing for a while, so i will take a second to acknowledge from the reader perspective. it’s easy to get attached to characters and see them as real people in your life.

but they arent real people. they only exist for the author’s intentions. every time i see someone complain that “x character only died because plot” i just think “yes?” characters exist for the plot. they exist to serve the narrative. they live and die for the plot, and that isn’t a bad thing. this is a story. that is how stories work.

with characters like gojo or choso, it’s easy to look back and see their character arcs and how their ends fit their purpose in the story, but i think people get so caught up in wanting to fuck the character, or fanon, that they forget their original purpose is to do what gege wants them to do.

this is a war against the most powerful, most evil sorcerer in history. of course characters are going to die, and of course it’s going to be characters we love. it’s honestly unrealistic to expect anything else.

and i think it’s really disrespectful to say so many rude things to gege because he is thinking about the story he wants to tell, and not the story that best suits your favorite character.

ii. few people want to feel anything from what they’re reading anymore

which again, is totally fine, but maybe read something else?

tragic stories have existed and enjoyed immense popularity for millennia. and theres nothing wrong with that. there’s nothing wrong with authors intentionally stirring up their readers’ emotions.

i wanna bring attention to the origins of the words “tragedy” and “catharsis”

“tragedy” is a genre that stems from greek drama based on human suffering and the terrible or sorrowful events that befall the main character. the intention of of tragedy is to invoke “catharsis”

“catharsis” is commonly used to refer to the purification of thoughts and emotions by way of expressing them. in terms of tragedy, this refers to arousing a negative emotion with the intention of expelling it so the audience can walk away feeling relieved.

for all intents and purposes, jjk is a tragedy. it’s meant to make you feel sad. that’s gege’s intention. yet every time people feel upset by a specific event, they call “bad writing.” if anything, according to what jjk is, it’s good writing if you feel sad.

i have seen some people say that jjk wasn’t set up this way, and i disagree so strongly that it’s hard to comprehend.

jjk0 ends with gojo having to kill his best friend, his one and only. tragedy. yuuta’s story is tragic too, having cursed rika and accidentally isolated himself just because he didn’t want her to die.

jjk starts with yuuji faced with execution just because because he wanted to honor his grandfather’s dying wishes. within a handful of chapters, there’s yuuji’s “death” and junpei, and there’s a clear set up of tragedy and repeated loss, despite characters giving their best effort.

i could get into how this relates to my interpretation of the themes of jjk, and sharing burden/responsibility to be stronger together, but that’s another point.

tldr; the point of this post is to say that gege killing characters and making readers feel sad is not bad writing or a bad narrative choice. it’s true to his intentions and the essence of jjk. if you don’t like that, then don’t read. but there’s no reason to disrespect gege and his hard work just because it’s not your cup of tea

[future-bog-body]

im not sure how to phrase it correctly but i think like. the fact that the Vallaslin started out as slave markings is important when discussing the elves and oppression of elves. HOWEVER what is equally important and interesting is the fact that those tattoos have evolved to become something of cultural significance and pride, with it even having important religious meaning and acting as a coming of age ceremony for young elves.

again idk how to phrase it in a way that makes sense but the fact that Solas focuses ENTIRELY on the original meaning of the vallaslin i feel is further evidence of the way he distances himself from modern elves and, honestly, doesnt really seem to care about them all that much. sure he likes the idea of elves, but hes in love with a memory of a past species that doesnt exist anymore and never can again. by removing the Inquisitor's vallaslin, he denies her a part of her heritage, whether he means to or not. bc, sure, vallaslin started as slave brandings, but that isnt what they are now.

even if we look back at Fenris' markings, he says that Danarius chose the shapes for them that he did as a MOCKERY of vallaslin. like all things in a culture, the meaning of vallaslin has evolved far, far past its origins and has new meaning and importance to the modern society living under that culture. apparently to the degree that someone as laser sharply cruel as Danarius will use them as a form of mockery and a humiliation ritual for Fenris.

also i think its weird that thats all the fandom focuses on with the vallaslin. DA asks us to put together lore and history the way an anthropologist or an historian would and the only way to do that is to look at both what something started as and what it has become. the modern-day meaning of vallaslin in Thedas far exceeds the original meaning in terms of the importance of it to the elves who wear it.

anyway theres prolly someone a lot smarter than me whos had a lot more hours of sleep who can better articulate the point im tryna make but. for now. gestures vaguely.

[lulushults]

as a nalu stan through and through its really starting to piss me off now that literally every single couple is getting development BUT nalu.

every single ship is getting constant scenes to show they either are already together, gajevy, and how theyre thriving. or how other ships, jerza and gruvia, are starting to realise their feelings and are slowly becoming more than friends.

nalu has for sure been the ship the fandom has been obsessed with the longest, and on top of that its also one of if not the most desired ship in the entire show, so why is it that we’re living off of small looks between eachother or one saying the others name or vise versa. i understand natsu and lucy are the two characters that are the most dense with their feelings and love in general. but like…cmon.

surely its about time the two of them start to understand how they feel. even just slightly. we havent had any real nalu moments since what? like the beginning of the 100 yrs quest with the hug after natsu loses control.

one of the main reasons i love ft so much is FOR nalu and their relationship. my patience is really starting to grow thinner and thinner every time a new chapter is released or a new arc is finished and every other couple has development while nalu has none.

its clear hiro wants nalu to be his final send off, but can he atleast not begin their development sooner than later. i cant express how disappointed me and half of the nalu fandom will be if they both dont come together until the final chapter EVER of the series while every other couple has moments upon moments under their belt to celebrate once the show is done. while we nalu fans have countless of moments from the main show, and about? 3? from the spin off.

idk i hope im not the only one starting to get really fed up, im happy for jerza, gruvia and even gajevy shippers for seeing their couples finally come together. im a hard gajevy and gruvia shipper myself, it just sucks that atm im having to pretty much survive on only gajevy and gruvia and have to p much act like nalu doesnt exist because..theres literally nothing to give us hope anymore.

not to mention the nalu fandom is DYING out because of this, theres less fanfic, less fanart, less headcannons, less everything because theres nothing for us to hope about anymore. trust me i’ll be heartbroken if nalu doesnt end up becoming real. but its hard to believe it is when hiro is giving little to no attention to them anymore.

i hope im not the only one thinking like this because it realllly sucks🤷‍♀️

[angelicsjn]

Hi hi! I remember reading your blog last year and I found you again!!

So, SHOWER THOUGHT!! I was wondering how would the yan deals with their fans sending hate comments/death threats to MC just because they are dating them?

- Like for Roman, his F1 fans, they don’t like MC being his WAGs (I learn that from my F1 ✨bestie✨, unless MC is gender neutral coz I actually don’t remember).

- For Jae, his delusional K-pop fans (just like the real life delulu fans), if the relationship is not revealed and the paparazzi somehow manage to take a pic of them dating at night outside and the fans go crazy abt it.

- Kaidan is his online fans, Joshua is his fellow church members???? I’m not sure for Lento (his past hook-up?) and Hayden coz they sweet as hell.

YOUR SEVEN YANDERES.

A N: I will write it differently for the non-famous ones!

A B O U T: They see you're getting hated on.

W A R N I N G S: Death threats and online hate.

— ROMAN BEAUREGARD.

Roman is livid. He sees it all just before a race, and the whole day he's steaming, but hey, he got pole!

He has never raced so viciously in his life, and damn, he was still steaming afterwards.

Just know that he kissed you extra hard in front of the cameras that day, as a massive, 'fuck you' to the idiots who are horrible.

He wouldn't directly make a post about it. He's media trained and knows how to look good to the masses, but he does show you off more as a silent way of telling the fans to get a life.

— LATEN REED.

Laten only sees it when it's affecting you, he doesnt realise that the women around you are mean due to you both dating. He's so happy with you that nothing else exists outside of your little bubble.

Maybe you suggest breaking up. You cry over the mean comments they make towards you. Maybe you flat out ignore him in public to save yourself the backlash.

Either way, he is devastated. He's so upset that 1. He didn't notice, and 2. You're upset over a bunch of idiots.

He would comfort you, pamper you, baby you. Make sure that you're happy with him because he genuinely would go crazy if he ever lost you.

Laten will catch them out and flash his pretty smile, "Leave them alone. It's none of your business." And they smile and giggle, and suddenly they all love you and have a fanclub for you... which is also annoying.

But at least they're not mean anymore!

— JAE 'NIKO' LEE.

Due to his job and the nature of it. There is nothing that he can do. He needs to keep a polite and positive front, he can't let people know the real him.

But he is seething. Seeing the death threats? The doxxing? He's angry.

He will use it as an excuse to pin you underneath his thumb and keep you in place, "it's too dangerous out there, darling."

Honestly, he uses it to his advantage for his selfish desires of keeping you where he wants you.

But he does seek them out and have them sorted out. Legally, of course.

— KAIDAN WOLFE.

Kaidan is so upset. Our delusional baby is so overwhelmed by the fact that your sadness is due to his popularity.

His entire fandom is created by people who want him, of course it's his fault you're getting hate.

He posts you more and makes sure that you feel loved and seen. That he doesn't listen to them, doesn't care.

Kaidan takes you out on private dates and hangs around with you 1:1 to make sure that the intimacy is there.

He wants you to know that he loves you and doesn't care about what they say, so neither should you.

— HAYDEN WEST.

I genuinely don't see anything like this happening. He's a very introverted person and not really ever noticed by others.

He thanks the world for bringing you so close into his grasp.

— JOSHUA WHITE.

The girls at the church can be vicious. Joshua is the perfect man. The perfect husband. The perfect father. Their dream man.

Taken by you? What in God's name?

He doesn't seem the sly remarks or the jabs made your way at first. He's so busy helping the community.

When he finally picks up on your behaviour as you slowly crawl into yourself due to their nastiness, he's over it.

He hates bullies. Those who are unkind. It goes against everything he believes in.

He makes sure to make it known in the church that its people will remain respectful and kind, to love thy neighbour, and to stop being judgmental idiots.

He also makes sure to make eye contact with those who make you uncomfortable, to really lay it on thick that he won't stand for any of it.

— BLAKE CROSS.

Blake picks up on it way before you do, and he stamps it out just as fast.

He's wealthy, from a wealthy family and knows what he wants and how to get it.

He got you, and he's not going to lose you because of a bunch of idiots.

Unlike the others, he has no social boundaries and will create a fuss.

"Shut up, I wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire." He spits their way before dragging you away from them with a scowl and clenched jaw.

Honestly, it doesn't take long for him to get rid of idiots. He knows he can be a nasty person, and he will take advantage of it.

[bibibbon]

Hi, there are people defending the ending of mha and some good points can be made like Izu never cared for fame...and how Izu working as a teacher is in character, I agree.

I told the op how my gripe is not Izu not having bitches, its how he is not happy, he is not being appreciated.

And like op doesnt have a real answer aside "he is happy, adult life is hard as adults dont have time to see each other all the time" and look, I get it, we are all adult here.

But come on, in a country where we have more heroes than villains...no one had the time to catch up with Izu? They can open agencies but cant ask Izu if he wants to join them ?

Not saying they all should make Izu their god and priority...but no one had time to be there for Izu? REALLLY?

Again, its not about Izu getting no harem or mansions....its him getting no glory after going through all that.

A1 didn´t chip in to buy the damn suit...and even if they did (saw some people saying A1 did help too) why the fuck they kept as a secret?)

Btw, Izumei is the best ship.

Hi @mikeellee 👋

The ending even though I do view it in a negative light has a few good points like you mentioned above. While I do like izuku becoming a teacher I do wish that izuku got a career that involved his analytical abilities. A career where he works with mei and Melissa makes sense and would be interesting to see in my opinion.

I have brought up the point that it's the fact that the manga doesn't show us 1A interacting with eachother outside of heroics or hero costumes which to me can be interpreted that they really aren't close and also further emphasises the point that the 1A found family thing doesn't cannonically exist. In my opinion it's not difficult for Hori to make it so that izuku says yeah they don't meet much anymore but we still see izuku hanging out with some 1A members or we see his phone that has some messages from a 1A GC. This would of helped a lot in my opinion.

I don't really care about canon ships and Iam glad that none have been confirmed but the fact that the fandom has made it a gag that izuku somehow fumbled and the fact that this gag also sexualises and paints ochako in a bad light is disgusting in my opinion. I hate it.

I would like to correct you that the official manga translation does state that 1A did chip in to help fund the suit while Melissa and mei where the creators of the suit. I suppose they wanted to make it a little suprise thing for izuku but it's a shame and weird that we don't see them reveal it to him?!?!

I love izumei as much as the next girlie but even if it was canon it would of been done dirty

[raisinchallah]

contemplating the various reasons for xena being forgotten while its peers like buffy or the x files still have thriving fandoms.. its many factors but i think one it stopped being seen as a show on its own merits and became kind of a punchline and joke about lesbians in wider pop culture like it was popular it was mainstream it was regularly beating star trek in syndication and was regularly the most popular action show in international purchasing rights it was broadcast all over the world and now poof like it never existed i think a few of the problems are its been sparse on streaming for yeaars and thats how many people watch these shows secondly its not had an hd remaster and especially season one probably looks atrocious on a huge tv and the wonky old cgi probably doesnt help since so many sci fi fantasy fans seem to be weirdly difficult about bad effects anyways we need to work to get doctor who fans into xena theyre the only ones who wont say a peep about it but anyways the fact all its seen as is this lesbian show had i think two effects which is random straight viewers are not going to seek it out even if idk they loved the witcher or some other recent fantasy action adventure show its just not classed with that anymore so it loses that mainstream element it cant be part of general nerd fandom cuz its just that weird gay show and also frankly i think a lot of queer women watched the show not necessarily cuz they liked it but because it was kind of seen as like one of the few gay shows out there u see lots of women saying like now that i can watch the L word what do i need xena for when theyre like wildly different shows then compounding that with the extremely controversial finale that lead a lot of people to leave fandom feel totally heartbroken about it i think really didnt help the continuity and longevity of an already contracting fandom like season 5 was hated but also really hard to watch lots of articles on whoosh people discussing waking up at like 3am to record xena episodes cuz they were broadcast at crazy times and many countries tv networks stopped buying it or suddenly delaying release by like 8 months which was terrible for people involved in internet fandom now suddenly being way behind everyone else so way fewer people were watching the final seasons a lot more people didnt like major parts of them and it really splintered fandom as well as many people stuck by the show out of this sense of uniqueness but there were not long after xena a trickle of more gay characters and gay shows on television and with many people who felt toyed with and would be like oh they never confirmed xena and gabrielle and xena died horribly i prefer to watch the L word which doesnt toy with you about them being lesbians etc real opinions ive seen out there anyways i think these problems compound idk gay internet fandom is fickle and has often jumped between the various hot new things in a way that makes it hard to keep xena going it never really transitioned as a fandom into like the ff.net and livejournal era in a significant way and has struggled for relevance since and ultimately for reasons outlined above i think its struggled to be seen as anything other than that gay show and is viewed only in that lens its not seen as a fun complex action adventure show with fun meta elements and genre experimentation that boldly reinvents itself every few seasons but also it has failed to take hold in the one community it would continue to entice i do also think the fact of it seeming like a holdover and well the black stain of the concept of queerbait also perhaps didnt help it seemed out of date old fashioned compared to idk the hot new random gay characters on tv cuz nobody wanted to fucking tell people and remember how crazy insane and good and like bone deep thematically gay xena is and like is also just good fucking tv and also people just dont respect women thats the truth people dont care about stuff about women… ok my theoriez.. thanks for ur time

[starpernova]

Hello Resident Evil fandom.

I need to get this out there and have other people share in this concept. Without further ado, its time to ramble about my AU.

Garden of Eden AU.

I created this AU kind of on a whim after seeing a piece of fanart. The general consensus is that Carla Radames replaces Albert Wesker... not in role or anything, but in Chris's life.

Carla Radames betrays, and then promptly kills Chris Redfields entire team. Chris is wracked with grief and anger and betrayal... and then something changes within him. Suddenly, he's S.T.A.R.S again... for just a moment. He feels betrayed and lost and angry.. and his brain immediately spirals. Carla's on the other end of it now, where he used to be.

As he and Piers corner her on the roof, he notices that sniper from the helicopter and tackles her out of the way of the shot. Carla manages to escape alive, perhaps even taunting Chris for being foolish enough.

Its all so familiar.

Piers is furious, he demands to know what Chris was thinking pulling a stunt like that. Chris has no answer for him, because he doesn't know either. He cant acknowledge whats really happening (projection of Wesker onto Carla) because its all so subconscious and desperate. He doesnt make an active effort to search her out, but everytime they cross paths from then on, something is different about Chris.

In this AU, Chris does find out that was not Ada. His only reservations were that Leon really cared about her... and now he doesn't have that barricade anymore.

Chris loses his mind. He becomes utterly obsessed with Carla, and for what its worth, she reciprocates it... for her own selfish gain. She recognizes this sick little soldier is wrapped around her finger.

He's chasing the familiarity he had with Wesker. Carla exists for that, its indistinguishable in his broken mind.

Also; things Carla says directly to Chris in the span of 6:

"Still haven't had enough, huh? Even after losing all your men – again?"

"Thanks for the escort. Here's something to remember me by."

"Oh, is the big, bad soldier going to shoot me?"

"Looking for me, boys? Welcome to China."

"With your track record I gotta say, I'd hate to be a member of your team, Chris. But where are my manners? I mean, really, I should be thanking your men…for being such good test subjects."

Also this:

Carla is Chris's kryptonite.

Nobody can get through to him. No one can understand him, his pain, why he's doing this...

No one except Jill Valentine. She has to stop him...

She's the only one who can.

[jaydenforest]

RANT!

Never thought that i would ever rant on here but someone has to say something.

See these Comments here?

They honestly disgust me, people glorifying Starscream's abuse or romanticizing his Relationship to Megatron are honestly the nastiest people i know.

Just imagine if they were real people for a moment, would People still ship and find it "hot" when Megatron beats Starscream to near death? If yes then wtf is wrong with you.

The People who romantizice them being together is just as bad if not worse. Megatron is litteraly a crazy Warlord seeking only revenge against Optimus no matter the cost, he mostly just beats Starscream to set an asample to not disobey him, everyone else in the Show (TFP) also thinks that its "funny" that Starscream gets beaten to near Death.

And honestly? Wtf do these Writers think while creating those scenes?? People litteraly glorify abuse and have no sense of Empathy. Yet if anyother Characters os wronged or dies people are sad and say they didnt deserve it. As a Person who has been through similar stuff in the Past this is Sickeing.

And the Fact that "Megastar or MegaOP" are one of the most popular ships in this whole Fandom is another thing of itself.

I'm honestly mad, since Starscream is one of the most loved and hated Characters in this whole Community, but i feel like some people only like him because of his supposed "cute/hot" realtionship to Megatron. Or how they sexualize him in general, he isnt this "cutsie uwu bottom femboy"...

Or people from the ES Community raging at Starscream to just "forgive" Megatron and not be a drama queen, or that he doesnt deserve Peace. I already hate ES as it is but this continues Starscream hate and or sexualizing is honestly disgusting.

And i dont know why people never speak up about it, and IF they say something then they are mostly the biggest Megastar Defenders to exist, i honestly dont know how any sane person can think this is "Hot".

People do anything to make their Ships ok, and once you notice the lenghts they go to make it ok you notice just how fucked up they really are.

I cant even scroll my for you page on here anymore because i mostly have these supposed "Adults" here glorifying the sexualizing or Abuse.

Might get hate for this Rant but honestly, i couldnt give less of a fuck. Someone had to say something eventually.

[prettystylinson]

i agree with your point. --

https://www.tumblr.com/prettystylinson/785735193161007104/i-really-fucking-hate-how-she-has-the-duplicity-to

its as if she is waiting for louis to be gone, so that she and harry would be free of him??? and thenit'll be some perfect utopia where she can pretend to care about him.

thats not how it works. you learn from what harassment did to one of them and stop it for others. not fuel and instigate it.

also might i add, not everything needs to be viewed from the lens of how louis is personally attacking larries. it is not in his control how people misconstrue his words. attributing the blame of a few malicious elements in fandom to louis is a manufactured excuse to harass him.

by that standard, gina should also rile up her fans and followers to harass harry for every simgle bit of bullying harries do. but she doesnt. and she never will. and thats the differentiating factor.

even for this discord thing, i keep seeing everyone saying *I* wont create mess in the server, but others will and it will be hostile to larries. ALL of this is conjecture. no one knows what it will be. why did these fandom leaders not think of voicing and lifting the opinion of "maybe louis is coming up with new things, wonder what they might be, lets see how his professional endeavors go"

instead gina chose to amplify ONLY the noise about how this server will sideline larries and made it a whole mess. i know she's said she does not give a fuck about louis' music or career or life or existence, and thats fine. I just wish she'd working so hard to erase him for everyone else too.

( sorry for unloading all this in your anon)

absolutely. this sums up a lot of the issue perfectly, and i fully agree with most of it.

people are so quick to project intent onto louis where there likely isn’t any. it’s like they’ve decided that everything he does must somehow be an attack on larries, even if it’s just existing or trying to create something for fans. like you said, attributing the behavior of a loud minority in the fandom to him is just a thinly veiled excuse to keep harassing him. and the truth is, chaos happens everywhere in this fandom. whether it’s on tumblr, twitter, instagram, or in group chats—it’s not exclusive to this new discord server, so why act like it will be some uniquely evil space before we even see it?

i personally wouldn’t be surprised if certain words associated with the larry fandom end up blocked in the discord server—assuming they’ve got people running it who actually know how to use the moderation tools properly. and honestly, if that does happen, then i hope they’re also blocking the phrases and threats commonly used to spread hate toward larries too. because that side of things can be just as harmful and painful, and it deserves equal attention. i don’t know what this server is actually going to look like, and truthfully, i don’t have high hopes that it’ll last long—but that’s just my own take. we’ll see how it plays out.

i also think it’s wild how certain people refuse to show the same energy when harries cross the line toward us or louis. they don’t demand accountability there. they don’t start thinkpieces about how harry enables harassment when his fans act up. it’s selective morality, plain and simple.

as for gina… at this point, it feels like she’s actively working to erase louis from the narrative unless it’s to use him as a scapegoat or villain. and yeah, she’s made it clear she doesn’t care about him, which fine, whatever—but she doesn’t get to be surprised when people call out how harmful that disregard becomes when it’s paired with a massive platform and a loud voice. instead of encouraging curiosity or even neutrality about louis’s career moves, she incites suspicion and bitterness. it’s not just about her relationship to him anymore—it’s about the way she shapes the tone of the spaces she leads.