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#theyre EVIL for not having father and son interact why would they do that#if 'it'll keep for another time' isnt hinting at a future memoirs project im gonna be so mad#or. keep being mad ig lol#moominvalley spoilers#moominvalley season 4#meme
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ROUND 1 / SIDE B / POLL 2
Esmeralda Poofenplotz x Alice Luoja ( @cantdanceflynn ) vs Pash x Illoma ( @floralprintshirts )
lyrics by The Amazing Devil (Battle Cries)
who makes up your ship?:
Esmeralda Poofenplotz(Canon Phineas and Ferb character(although I draw her differently from canon)) and Alice Luoja(Background character turned Phineas and Ferb oc)
why does your ship deserve to be considered the most toxic?:
THEY BASICALLY STARTED OUT AS TWO DUMBASS TOXIC AF TEENAGERS GOING TO EVIL SCIENCE HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER AND BEING THE TERRORS OF THE SCHOOL(POOFENPLOTZ BC SHES BIG ON BEAUTY AND WOULD BASICALLY DESTROY EVERYONE'S SELF ESTEEM AND ALICE BC. SHES WILLING TO KILL ANYONE WHO RLY FUCKS W HER), AND WHILE THEY ORIGINALLY HAD A RIVALRY IT GOT A LIL TOO HOMOEROTIC VERY QUICKLY AND THEY DON'T RLY KNOW HOW BUT THEY ENDED UP DATING. THEY ENDED UP, SURPRISE SURPRISE, RUINING EACH OTHER EVEN FURTHER THEN THE TWO OF THEM WERE ALREADY TRAUMATIZED!!!! A TYPICAL INTERACTION BETWEEN EM PRETTY MUCH WENT ALONG THE LINES OF POOFENPLOTZ POKING FUN AT SOMETHING ABOUT ALICES BODY OR PERSONALITY SHE KNEW WOULD TICK ALICE OFF("YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING YOU NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT, BUT THROWING UP YOUR LUNCH LATER COULDN'T HURT"), ALICE GETTING PISSED OFF AND PULLING A KNIFE ON HER("YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS TIME I'LL CHOP OFF YOUR TONGUE, STOP THAT HORRIBLE NOISE YOU CALL A VOICE"), AND THEN SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN OR ONE OF THEM WOULD FUMBLE OR FLIRT AND THEY'D JUST GO BACK TO NORMAL BANTER AND TERRORIZING PEOPLE. THEY DID CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER, AND WHATEVER THEY WERE EXPERIENCING CERTAINLY FIT SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE STRANGE AND NEBULOUS RANGE OF ROMANTIC LOVE, LIKE THEY DEFINITELY LIKED EACH OTHER, THEY WERE JUST TOXIC AS SHIT AND HAVING THEIR BEHAVIORS EXPANDED UPON OR REINFORCED BY THEIR ENVIRONMENT. EVENTUALLY ALICES OBSESSION W GODHOOD AND HER IDEA OF PERFECTION (ONE THAT HAD ALWAYS BEEN THERE, EVEN IF POOFENPLOTZ MADE IT MORE PHYSICAL) ENDED UP DRIVING THE TWO APART, WITH HOW HORRIBLE ALICES DECLINE WAS, AND POOFENPLOTZ ENDED UP BASICALLY LEAVING AND IGNORING HER AS A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO SNAP HER OUT OF HER DECLINE BUT ONLY PULLED HER FURTHER IN. AS IT STANDS NOW IN THE PRESENT, THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS A COMPLICATED SPIRAL OF "POOFENPLOTZ ACTUALLY HEALED AND REALIZED HOW AWFUL SHE WAS BEING AND WHILE SHE STILL HAD A DEGREE IN EVIL SCIENCE SHE HAD TO USE SO SHE MIGHT AS WELL GET A JOB DOING THAT, SHES ALSO RLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING W THE CAST AND HELP THEM, ESPECIALLY MILLIE AND PINKY, WHILE ALSO DEALING W " WHOOPS YOUR EX IS BACK IN TOWN AND SHES NOW BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE DEATHS THEN MOST FULL ON TERRORISM COMBINED, BUT SHE IS ALSO STILL KINDA HOT SO *NONCOMMITTAL HAND GESTURE*, YA KNOW?", MEANWHILE ALICE IS "OH RIGHT. SHE QUALIFIES FOR LOVEMUFFIN TOO. IM ALLOWED TO DENY ON HER ON TERMS OF HER BEING MY EX, RIGHT? BUT ALSO IM STILL GONNA INVITE HER TO OUR MEETINGS AND ALSO OFFER TO LET HER " LEAD" THE CULT IVE MADE THAT CONSISTS BASICALLY JUST OF MY VERY ABUSED OWN SON AND A VERY ABUSED TEENAGER WITH ME BC IF I CAN CHANGE HER MIND I CAN CHANGE ANYONES!"
ship tags/playlists/pinterest boards?:
Esmeralice, https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnP0Xop8gS5VdFNCP4Uetvq2pM5A9NZTe <- BAD PLAYLIST BY MY STANDARDS OF USUALLY A HUNDRED SONGS AT LEAST BUT ITLL DO FOR NOW
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who makes up your ship?:
My ocs Pash and Illoma!!
why does your ship deserve to be considered the most toxic?:
OKAY SO theyre blorbos from a book a plan to write and basically the premise is that the main character, Illoma, is tasked with assassinating Pash. Theyre both from different families that have control over dragons and are both dragon riders in their own right. Illoma is from the 2nd most powerful house right after the royal family, which Pash is a part of. Their empire is ruled by an immortal god-king who has had many children over the course of his long life. Pash is one of his many descendants, but highest in the line of succession after her father (which is meaningless since the king is immortal). Basically, Illoma's mother believes that Pash's parents are going to try to find a way to kill their emperor and put her on the throne. This would be a terrible outcome for everyone because Pash is a hedonistic party girl who seems to have no regard for her own life or the lives of other people. She shows up to important meetings drunk/high, has a reputation for sleeping around with women, and is overall just an undisciplined mess. Illoma is a dutiful daughter who follows the rules of society, so when her mother tells her that she needs to kill Pash for the good of the empire, Illoma does what she says. It’s easy to emotionally disconnect herself from the action at first because Illoma doesn’t know Pash at all and doesn’t particularly like her. So she tries to poison Pash. When it fails the first time, she tries again, and again, and again. None of the poisons she’s been given are working. So Illoma is left with no choice but to get closer to Pash so she can try to kill her more effectively. The twist ends up being that Pash is basically a hommuculus created for the sole purpose of dying in some blood ritual that will kill the immortal god-king. She has a year left before this happens, but until then, he body has the regenerative properties of Wolverine. So with what little time she has left, she’s decided to keep herself entertained by fucking with Illoma. At one point, she makes a toast in Illoma’s honor to praise her tenacity and drinks the goblet Illoma poisoned while making direct eye contact with her. It only gets worse from there. As they grow closer, Illoma finds that she has more and more trouble keeping her gay thoughts in check. She is a super repressed lesbian and Pash is a very much not repressed lesbian. Illoma resents Pash quite a bit for being able to break all the rules without any consequences but genuinely has fun when they go out on excursions together. Lots of projection on Illoma’s part and gaslighting on Pash’s (“haha what do you mean you stabbed me last night, Im sitting right here at breakfast!”) Halfway through the story they start boning. Illoma is still actively trying to figure out a way to kill Pash and Pash is both aware of this and aroused by some of her more intimate attempts. They have an actual connection and like each other as people, but they have opposing goals and lots of underlying animosity to work out. In the meantime, they’ll be making out about it.
ship tags/playlists/pinterest boards?:
I use the tag "dragon horse girl story" on my sideblog to vaguepost about them!! :D
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Would it be alright if we got more of your lore on Henry cheng's family? The snippets we get are absolutely fascinating 👀
i’m about to ruin your day anon because i freely admit it changes every single time i talk about it.. however. I do have some iterations i come back to because they’re fun. Let’s go.
Canonically we know: several children, henry middle child, dad’s a clever man she met in hong kong he was fine but seo couldn't bear it, dad is in the lab trying to replicate bee.
I dont like this for many reasons. i’ve straight up modded mr cheng out for an entirely different character description. I DO kind of consider this canon in my head ngl so everything else fudges bc of it. Character details: - buys patents and pretends they’re his el*n m*sk style. He may be smart at business but he doesnt know a THING about tech or science. his r&d department does every little thing for him. Including bee. He is functionally a succession character i.e born into wealth and kind of an immature baby because of it. - For this reason he is fundamentally incapable of relating to henry or seondeok’s drive for something More: he is happy where he is, he doesn’t know why seo can’t just stay home and be #female, he doesn’t know why henry can’t just stop being such a bummer (shy+somber during a family party a YEAR after he gets kidnapped) and hopes his son grows out of it because he’s really annoying to have near the rest of the family + not worth ruining the vibe. - net worth possibly greater than the ganseys’ combined if you count stock prices. And YET he gets upset with henry breaking shit because hes fundamentally an asian parent . it’s about the principle (of yelling at your children). - i dont think he’s EVIL i just think he genuinely just does not particularly give a shit. think shiv with catherine, henry disconcerts him and his solution is that he simply wont look at henry. - tbh here is the point i just sub in my readymade OC darion cheng for him if i need to hash any lore out
As for the rest of the family, I definitely rotate the layout-- i think henry being the youngest child makes more sense given seondeok’s timeline. But even if he isn’t there’s only one real pregnancy after him, maybe twins to make the ‘several’ descriptor accurate. Seo’s definitely FULLY checked out after around, <5 years of henry being around. I usually settle around 3-5 kids. >older brother, older sibling, henry, twin 1 , twin 2 [5] >older brother, older brother, henry [3] >older brother, older sister, older brother, henry [4] >older brother, older sibling, henry, youngest daughter [4] >older brother, older sister, older brother, henry, youngest sibling [5] I prefer the last 3. i do always specifically see One sibling actually making the effort to check in on henry (like.. Once in 3 months), always the oldest one bc he would have had the most time with seondeok before she went crazy. AKA he’s the one with a relatively normal family life. He fulfills the helen/declan narrative role of older sibling is convinced theyre my parent. has a minimum 10+ years of difference from henry.
The next sibling(or sibling pair) ignores him like their life depends on it. Henry WHOM. never met him. He makes them uncomfortable because they dont know WHAT happened to him he just feels a little too autism-coded for their liking. on a psychological level they’re jealous THEIR time with mommy was cut short when she went crazy and decided to keep custody of only henry and never ever see them. Ergo he’s the 8 year old enemy. they’re the ones most aligned with dad’s POV.
IF there is a youngest sibling(s) (<5 years’ difference) i feel she tries the hardest to get henry’s attention and fails every time. Either he wants her VERY clear of the fairy market business/associated risk or he just has completely washed his hands of his father’s family by the time she gains sentience. Its sad bc i feel he could he a good older brother if he tried or was yk, given the chance to interact stably with the rest of them growing up. but alas.
all in all, henry is his mother’s son and the rest of his family are his father’s children. THAT is the most important distinction. good old divorced family slay /j.
WILDCARD ROUND! AUS! -> love focusing on how henry identifies as korean specifically and not chinese. henry having a different father than the rest of his family would absolutely explain how he’s essentially kept apart from the rest, how his actions are looked at with a sharper eye, why he resolutely sticks to his mother and doesn’t even like, think about being like This Is Insane Maybe. > love niall being his dad. Hilarious to me when he’s a half-lynch but absolutely HATES it. > love an entirely random fairy market guy being his dad & seeing henry across the room and going HEY! WHY DO YOU LOOK LIKE ME! And instead of talking henry BOOKS it shes a runner shes a track star > mr cheng IS henrys dad but henrys like. No. not to me. And he’s like wh… son.. And henrys like Shh. And damn i guess it do be like that
I have a touch of the ‘tism so i made an infographic as fast as possible
Seondeok and her own mother is something i could be insane about also but i wont :sob:
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Who do you think was the mist immoral character of Moral Orel Clay or Censordoll? Do you think there were evil characters in the show or were they just flawed people trying to do what they perceived as the right thing?
THIS POST IS LONG BEWARE
im bias but clay all the way
if ms censordoll was a real person i would despise her, but in the show shes really fun and interesting to watch imo! of course i dont condone book burning and censorship i just think shes a good character to critique and make fun censorship with, plus i love her voice whoever her voice actor is did a great job. to be honest i havent rewatched the episodes where shes a main focal point in a long while so i need to refresh my memory before id be able to really form a strong opinion on her that i would stand by firmly
clay is an abusive addict with no interest in anyone else but himself, he has no agenda other than to get drunk and be miserable. i mean maybe he’s “invested” in teaching orel because he’s his only (legitamate) son but then... nature still happened. clay often talks about how hes distant from his family on purpose and doesnt care about them so i dont think he really gives that much of a shit all in all. i know he had a difficult childhood (yet another episode i need to rewatch (its been years), im on s2e3 so i still have a ways) but it doesnt justify like anything he does. cool motive still murder yknow? clay reminds me a lot of my religious alcoholic estranged father so i DEFINITELY have a personal bone to pick with clay cuz ive been there.
when it comes to whether the townspeople are evil, i feel like that question really lies at the heart of the show, not just for clay and censordoll but almost everyone in moralton (cept for orel of course). i could go into that concept for the next seventeen years so i wont right now but i think between the both of them at least censordoll probably thought she was doing the right thing for the people in her town. not that anything she did was actually right, but organizing all those daily pickets and book burnings must take some effort, right? someone who didnt care at all wouldnt go through the trouble. she seems to like genuinely care about moralton being righteous, even if her idea of righteous media is completely skewed and wrong. i wouldnt call that evil, horribly misguided and incorrect definitely but evil? im not really sure.
again tho its been a while so my opinion might change as i run thru s2 and 3 again, and im really starting to consider that if censordoll was a real person i probably would consider her to be evil but that might be more of a comment on my thought processes and perception of people than censordoll herself... lol
i dont know if clay even thinks he’s doing the right thing by orel truly. i think somewhere deep inside past his addiction there is someone in there trying to do something for orel, trying to keep him on the right path in a weird and terribly unfortunate way. clay has made it clear through his actions that he will not engage with parts of his family that he doesnt care about (cough bloberta and shapey cough), and he seems to always make time for orel. whenever orel needs to talk to him, clay is around to give his lessons and “guidance”. maybe thats just because his lessons are a crucial part of the show, but i think that shows. some effort? some acknowledgement? that he doesnt show to anything else other than drinking.
unfortunately clay is a sick motherfucker. he’s so rooted in his own trauma and addiction that he cant see anything other than his own pain. and i do absolutely sympathize with that, ive dealt with my own traumas and addictions and you lose sight of who you are and what you value. sometimes people can get to the point where they lose everything they love other than the bottle, and then they die and lose that too. its a disease, and its absolutely not someones fault that they have an alcohol problem.
but clay gives into himself. he makes no effort to change his situation, bloberta even brings this up in s1ep10 when theyre arguing about shapey’s breastfeeding. she tells him to quit his stinkin dead end job and stop being such a crybaby and you know what shes mean af but shes right! all clay does is wallow around and drink because hes miserable and stays miserable because he drinks. he numbs everything out instead of changing his life for... convenience? image? fear? probably a combo
my real problem with clay is that he hurts people because he is hurt. thats where my sympathy dies and i no longer really care about his motivations and trauma. i think nature is the clearest example of that, but clay hurts orel throughout the show. like damn he literally beats the kid with a belt in 90% of the episodes. its just not justifiable to me at all.
i will say one more thing that clay does that i think really says something about him. everytime orel does something wrong, clay takes him to his study, beats/spanks him with the belt (we never see it so who knows how severe it is), and then talks to orel. and orel LISTENS. ALWAYS. clay doesnt have to beat orel to punish him, orel has such a strong sense of loyalty and obiedience that his true punishment is his fathers disappointment. orel always listens to what clay says without question, and clay still finds it nessecary to beat him. it makes me think that clay gets something else out of that interaction like vindication, stress relief, or something of that nature. its cruel, and its selfish. its like beating a dog. you dont have to do it to make him listen to you, so why do it? probably for a reason other than discipline.
clay and censordoll are obvs the two people we’re talking about but a lot of people in moralton do bad things for the sake of righteousness and goodness. like i said a bit earlier i really do think that question is The Big Question of the show, and i feel like many people will have varying opinions based on their own morals and life experiences. the intricate motivations and values of each of the characters in moral orel is one of the things that makes the show so great and so interesting that here i am writing a long winded “analysis” on it on tumblr a decade after it was released.
WOW i completely derailed myself and started rambling for seven hours but!!!
tl;dr clay is a bitch and the people of moralton arent inherently evil monsters but i sure do have my problems with them
#THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS QUESTION#i think i really needed to Talk. About Clay.#I Could Go On. about almost every character in that show but obvs wont atm because this is already les miserables level of length#but im sure ill get there eventually if my diatribes arent too annoying to yall#moral orel#anon#abuse#alcoholism#long post
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hhhhhhxh
more abt hxh bc my last post was too long n i had to split it off holla
so i left off talking abt when gon woke up....i love how polite gon is to pretty much everyone - hes such a good lad all the time. s/o to his aunt for raising him right (tho i think hes also just a rlly good boy inherently too)
also is he named gon bc ging was like ha ha im boutta be GONe lol seeya kid!!!! like ????
i find it interesting that kurapika and hisoka fought....we really havent seen them interact at all yet. also hisoka is so smirk-y i hate that bitch...what did he say to kurapika??????
this poor red shirt old guy lmao hisoka is SO clearly uninterested in fighting him and then he fucking dies. rip mdude
what did hisoka whisper to HIM??? guess we’ll never know #RIPLegend
oh mannnn if killua had just won against pokkle then he wouldnt have had to deal with illumi doing That to him :( my smug son......
leorio is such a good dude....also its so funny to me how tall and lanky leorio is, espec compared to the other 3 main characters lmaoooo
or maybe those 3 are just rlly short??? i mean gon and killua are literally 12, but whats kurapikas excuse
GODDDD I HATE THIS BIIIIITCH. FUCK OFFFFFFF tho the evil piano music slaps. but jeeeeesus illumi is so creepy and awful, and seeing him take off his disguise is not any better a second time...he and hisoka truly deserve each other wrow
does illumi have hair powers??? cause it kinda looks like it. or maybe hes just gay and dramatic
ok but the sick electric guitar riff (?) that played when illumis face was revealed was lowkey kinda hilarious
man i was so wrong abt killua knowing that that was illumi :( poor kid
killua is immediately freaking out and meanwhile illumi looks bored as hell. dude ur the worst
killua: [freaking out] illumi, completely blank-faced: hey
I HATE HIMMMM even tho his catman design is regrettably kinda cute
why do illumi and hisoka both have such snatched waists i hate this
wtf so killua has another different brother??? i assumed he attacked illumi....how many fuckgin zoldyk sibling are there?????
leorio ur too normie for this conversation lmao. also wow fucked up family huh
killua looks so like...small and helpless, which is so at odds from what we’ve seen of him so far :( this poor kid
illumi totally has some weird brain powers man callin it now
gon: wow killuas family sounds wack... satotz: oh lmao you havent even heard the rest
KILLUA ;_;
this poor baby assassin :( :( :(
IMMM INCONSOLABLE. HE WANTS TO BE FRIENDS W/GON.......ARE YOU KIDDING....AUGHHHHHHHH
meanwhile gon decided he and killua are BEST FRIENDS like 10 mins after they met. GOD
like in the recap ep he called killua his best friend ;_; and meanwhile killua doesnt even think they ARE friends god destroy me
this calming classical music is throwing me off vbhjfjhbsdkgndks
i sense that leorio and kurapika are rapidly acquiring a new son
DAMN THIS IS SO FUUUUCKEDDDDD illumi is such a crusty bitch wow. leave killua alone asshole
all that stuff abt killua like, only thinking he wants to befriend gon but really wanting to kill him....that sure sounds like some ‘worst fears’ type of shit for someone like killua....illumi is such a classic abuser wow
i have 2 know is satotz like, repeating this entire conversation verbatim in a calming monotone to gon rn. like....
LEORIOOOOO I LOVE UUUUUUUU AUGHHHH him telling killua it doesnt matter if illumi is his brother, fuck that guy, beat him up as usual and leave.....ooooughhhh leorio is such a good dude ;_;
and the OF COURSE him saying the obvious - that gon and killua are ALREADY friends....i love this, i feel like leorio said all the exact things the audience is thinking...yet it still didnt get thru to killua bc hes so rattled by illumi appearing, and the abuse in general
i think if gon were there things wouldve gone much differently
of COURSE crusty bitch illumi is like oh ok now i have to kill gon.....biiiiitch i hate uuuuu
also that just shows that hes lying to killua (which we already knew obvs), bc if it were inevitable that killua would kill gon to like, test himself or w/e, then why not just wait for that to happen? that would have a much bigger impact on killua than illumi killing gon....its obvious that illumi is just manipulating him, but killua is too BSOD to be able to tell (also, hes 12)
ok bitch illumi is preaching abt not needing friends but he and hisoka are definitely fucking and theyve been teamed up for the entire hunter exam it seems.....what a hypocrite. hate this guy
god im so glad we didnt rlly get to see whatever the fuck illumi did to that random hunter examiner guy’s face. jeeeeesus. also i cant tell but i wonder if him forcing that info out of the guy was the result of his freaky mind powers or if the guy was just like oof ouch pins in me face
LEORIO AND KURAPIKAAAA THE PROTECT GON SQUAD!! and joined by new member hanzo!!! who ironically beat gon up for 3 hours str8 like, a very short amount of time ago lmao. but still i love that sm
illumi u dumb bitch.....tho i dont buy for a minute that he didnt already realize that killing gon would disqualify him...he defs just wanted to get under killuas skin even more :^(
KILLUAAAA ;_; when he goes to step back from illumi but illumi tells him not to....ughhh HATE this guy, leave this poor kid alone. no wonder he wanted to leave
illumi saying theres only 1 way that killua can stop him - does he mean by killing him, or something more specific, like some forbidden zoldyk murder technique?
‘your beloved gon’ wow gay. theyre 12 and theyre dating ok. killua is literally that kid whos like wow i wonder if gon likes me...and meanwhile gon is like wow cant believe me and killua have been dating for 3 months now
leorio saying ‘we wont let him kill you or gon’ ;_; leorio ily sm...thats like the exact right thing to say - hes offering protection and reassurance as an adult figure...unfortunately killua is clearly too freaked out to even process anything outside of illumis gaslighting and abuse
also illumi is defs doing something to killua w/his eyes via his freaky mind powers. js
illumi i hate you stop being weirdly cute. augh
classic abuse tactics, being like ha ha nvm i wasnt gonna kill gon! jk!
killua just shutting down completely after that :( :( noooo
and then he kills that old guy and leaves, ‘proving’ that illumi is right....noooooOOOO
and now we boutta see gon go FULL shounen protag for the first time, oh FUCKKKKKK yesssss
this is the first time we’ve seen gon angry oooh man and of COURSE its on killuas behalf,....im so fuckign emo already looooord
god ok the episode preview where its gon saying ‘do leorio and i look alike?’ YES U DO LOL youre father and son so jot that down
oof, gon and illumi have such fundamentally different POVs on like, family and life and morals, and you can tell by their 4-line exchange before gon does the ICONIC one-handed grab’n’fling
AUGHHHH gon saying hes gonna rescue killua....SO good...he recognizes that killuas family is wack as hell and killua shouldnt be w/them - the classic ingrained ‘found family is more important than blood family’ stuff
tho thats an interesting contrast to gon himself, whos looking for his deadbeat dad
‘but it wasnt his choice’ that so good ily gon BEST boy, hes so perceptive and good......he knows that killuas hand was forced and that he needs to be RESCUED (love that word choice) from his shitty abusive family
of course kurapika and leorio voiced complaints ;_; best parents
kurapika should be a lawyer tbh
leorioooo ;_; such a good dude, saying he should be disqualified instead
HOW is leorio a stronger combatant than that old dude hvbajufjbsja that guy had some moves it seemed, and leorio has,....a knife? a briefcase? the classic premed attitude of ‘fuck it, i could die anytime, lets do this’? like.....cmon vhabjdfjbhsf i refuse to believe this man is of any use in a fight. ill believe it when i see it
pokkle pls ur not plot-important enough to be jumping into this convo rn
tho i am curious abt what hisoka said to kurapika. tho i agree that thats irrelevant to the discussion
gon repeating satotz’s wisdom :’) and saying that killua will definitely pass if he takes the exam again...ough
gon is SO GOOD i cant get over it !!!!!!!!! AUGHHHH....recusing killua from his abusive family and making it so killua never has to see them again is like...so good. what a good good perfect boy.
also thats like, the perfect response to this. killing illumi would just start a ton of drama, and killua would be conflicted abt that....but removing killua from his situation is perfect
ok ive ranted a lot ill talk abt the rest later woohoo
PREDICTIONS:
i predict that hisoka will show up in this upcoming zoldyk arc somewhere bc illumis gonna be in it (i assume) and theyre dating. also hisoka is a central character so itd make sense for him to show up in the second major arc. tho tbh this could end up being completely false and i wouldnt be that shocked lmao
i think leorio is gonna get Big Sad someday bc hes like, so normal compared to the other MCs, and also hes suuuuch a bleeding heart (i love him....) so i feel like thats gonna lead to some sadness for him once his friends start doing crazy shit or w/e
also i predict that if he gets nen itll be like healing nen or st. does that even exist??? idk jack shit abt nen lmao
i think that illumi has hypnosis powers or something, even just based on design alone. it could defs be for aesthetic (character design in hxh is wild), but his eyes look noticeably different from any other characters. also he was doing some freaky shit to killua. also i held this prediction before seeing the part where this is brought up so we’ll see if its right lmao
as for this upcoming arc - ruth and i are wondering if itll be similar to the vinsmoke drama in one piece - character goes back to abusive family, squad goes to rescue them...and then character refuses to be recused. w/sanji it was partially bc the vinsmokes threatened to kill zeff, his TRUE dad, but i predict in this case it could be more like the zoldyks saying ‘look killua these 3 weirdos showed up looking for you, convince them to leave or we’ll kill them’ and killua will be like, oh shit bc like.....think abt it. the vinsmokes targeted zeff (and not the strawhats) bc they knew they could easily kill him. same goes here, i assume - a family of trained assassins vs Good Good Fishing Rod Smell-Power Boy (who hasnt thrown a single punch yet), Lanky Dr Man With A Switchblade We Havent Seen Him Use Onscreen, and Mx 2 Wooden Sticks, Bloodlust, and Arachnophobia - 3 For 1 Deal! its a no-contest. so thats one thing i could see happening, potentially
im way too tired to remember my other predictions rip lmao
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warning, the following has mainly snarky (and possibly furious) opinions on Spirit of Justice. Reader discretion is advised.
alright. part two, here we go
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“she’s safe”
“I’m afraid you’ve lost me”
the words ‘maya’ and ‘safe’ do not go together in phoenix’s dictionary
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...Phoenix’s phone has caller ID??
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ooh a phone vocal-blip. cute
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ok fuck you how is the Benefactor keeping tabs on them?? Did Atishon use his One Phone Call to report to headquarters or something???
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“I admit, I didn’t see that coming”
well spoilers guys I know who the benefactor is, and they have to be pretty fucking stupid not to know that a spirit medium is needed for this.
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“its your friendly neighbourhood dragon”
no dhurke, youre not cool enough to be spiderman.
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“you cant lay a hand on maya fey, and i mean literally”
>foreboding
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[sighs deeply]
guys. just. fucking call edgeworth. he’s chief prosecutor of america and his sister is part of INTERPOL. call edgeworth and just. fix the fucking problem. right now.
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“No time to explain”
ggghhghghhghghgh
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...oh. there’s edgeworth
...............now watch him be completely fucking useless
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.......ARE YOU KIDDING ME
PHOENIX /DID/ CALL EDGEWORTH THE MOMENT MAYA WAS KIDNAPPED AND HE STILL WENT THROUGH HIS FUCKING “DUHHH BETTER DEFEND THIS OBVIOUS CRIMINAL” SHIT??
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oh edgeworth. you and your chartered planes.
whenever he does that i like to imagine he hired MJN air.
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Edgeworth...
A) Why are you letting Dhurke be involved? Just cut him out, send Franziska and Lang in with a team of guys and kick the shit out of the enemy
B) You don’t need to conceal someone on a charter jet. You chartered it. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Besides, Dhurke got into the country p easily, he can get out the same way.
C) Dhurke is a criminal. Depending on what he’s done as a rebel, he could be as guilty in your country as his home country. Why are you acting like he’s innocent? Aren't you kind of by-the-book?
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oh yeah and despite the fact that they’ve updated Phoenix’s sprite, Miles still looks like a frozen plank of wood. Thanks :\
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Apollo: Sorry Trucy, guess you have to hold all the unnecessary evidence and hold down the fort and be LEFT BEHIND FOR A CHANGE AAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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oh. this is a really nice garden.
the drama theme is kinda harshing the mellow tho
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o hai rayfa
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um. what the fuck. that mask must make it pretty difficult to do shit pal
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Garan, whilst ordering her henchmen online: drama queen or king preferred
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UR DIARRHOEA, GAH-RAHN
cool theme, love the use of the royal “we”.
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“what about those guards over there”
“ohh, just prepared to fuck shit u–– iii mean help you haha.”
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yeahhh... I'm not buying her super calm “my husband is a kidnapper” attitude.
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UIGSFILGFLIS DHURKE YOU FUCKING MORON
god he’s such a useless piece of shit. unless he’s trying to get taken so that he can be taken to... idk, wherever Maya is held in some sort of Gambit, he’s a real moron for just up and outing himself like that.
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BAAAAARBED HEAD. YOU HAVE SOME SPLAAAAAAAAININ TO DOOOO
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man why do they even give us other options if we can’t use them???
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“Dhurke... I sure hope he’s alright”
hey apollo wanna hear a secret
i dont
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Phoenix externally: Patience, Apollo, patience.
Phoenix internally: we are so screwed at any moment the queen could be all “OFF WITH YOUR HEAD” and i’ll never see trucy or maya again jesus holy mother buddha help me
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i love that Garananana is kinda just chilling with them. You got more important shit to do, queenie. like being evil
also open your goddamn mouth once in a while, sheesh
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Apollo: I hope no one gets hurt
The entire series of ace attorney as a whole: oh honey
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wait ... INGA HAD A RATTAIL?!
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ohhh yesss listen to those punches
why couldn’t they have animated it too ;w;
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phew. im glad Maya’s ok.
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yeesh... poor Rayfa.
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i love that even apollo’s like “fuck dad, you didn't kill him, did you?????”
its a beautiful contrast to how adamant he was about Trucy not killing Manov.
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um, soundtrack, now is not the time for Grand Revival. I know Edgeworth is on screen but the shit he’s saying is far, far from uplifting.
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“it seems prosecutor sahdmadhi has grown quite fond of her”
nooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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“they’ve almost become a team of sorts”
ok so mark Ema down on the list of AJ characters who will never be seen again after this game.
fuck man i’d even take Klema over this
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can you imagine if they'd split up Apollo/Phoenix Edgeworth/Athena instead
i really wonder how Athena and Edgeworth would interact. Athena’s spunky enough to be a bit like Kay I suppose, so maybe similar to that.
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again, Kooraheen’s detention centre theme is really quite pretty
too bad i have to look at Dhurke’s face while listening to it
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...a tasty... hash house
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oh apollo’s up for that
well tbh if i was him i could use some hash after all this shit
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yEAH YOU TELL’IM APOLLO
SMARTEN THAT BASTARD UP
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god apollo he’s not worth it. i’d say leave the fucker to his fate but i guess it is important to find the real killer... sigh
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apparently queen Amara liked insensitive fuckbags with masculinity issues
oh well. to each their own.
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>:( don’t compare Dhurke’s story to Phoenix’s, Apollo
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“you ran?! but why?!!”
oh i dunno, athena, maybe the fucking death penalty?????
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hang the fuck on
are you telling me that Dhurke started making trips to his shitty abandoned law office via sewer... while Apollo was still with him?!
Like what fucking reason would he have to drag him down there?! The place is an archive/resistance base, but Apollo and Sadmad lived in the mountains as children; why the fuck would he take his /kids/ into town at the risk of having them all arrested at once?!
WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM, DHURKE
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that orb better be a fucking laser or some shit cause I'm really tired of hearing about it
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oh......... hi sadmad..................... what a pleasure to see you........... again................
just as fucking pleasant as ever
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i love that Dhurke is like “what happened to fighting the man, son??”
like even if he is a double agent he can’t very well just be like “psst I'm still on your side!!!!” in front of the fucking guard
i hate that dhurke’s face is so placid during this too.
“Son, why did you betray me? Also how was the sports game?”
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“The Nahyuta you knew exists no more”
yeah sure sadblackworth, whatever you say
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oh well that was abrupt
meh, onwards to the tomb
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“No, that’s the holy mother. She’s the one who brought spirit channeling to Khura’in”
oh so you mean Ami Fey.
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oh ema... i’ll miss you while youre off being Sadmad’s lapdog
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“You mean His Ephemeral Holiness?”
Yes, Ema, fight it!!! Fight it!!!!!!
“But when he manages a smile and compliments my work, it’s hard to say no.”
...nuts.
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wait what do you mean the defendant is someone you know
you met Dhurke like once a day ago
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aw apollo took the locked-room-mystery words right out of my mouth. i love him so. why are they going to take him away?
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alrihgt back to this shit after like a 3 month hiatus or something
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i love how chill everyone is talking about Maya’s kidnapping
“oh yeah he brought her here to the tomb so nobody would see. sensible thing to do. oh also maya almost died but i guess that’s nbd”
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casually opens a tomb
casually opens the sarcophagus hangings
casually tries to open the sarcophagus when told there’s a mummy inside
apollo, you're contracting douche-itis from everyone else. this old family of yours is a bad influence.
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...we’re gonna yeet this sarcophagus arent we
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i love that Amara’s just kinda. depicted standing there as she’s burned to death. i mean i guess theyre trying to preserve her beauty and dignity in death but it also makes her look like an idiot who didnt try to escape the flames.
ooh i like that last one though
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pff thats a pretty well-equipped corpse line
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“Where’d the other three bullets go?”
“Maybe Dhurke ate them?”
if he did they'd better have a VERY good explanation
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“the poor guy”
EMA
HE WAS HOLDING MAYA HOSTAGE
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“the cuffs of justice”
love it
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“just one of those traditions people do and they dont know the reason why”
“like rolling up your sleeves?”
“or your psychology, if we’re going there” HE FUCKING WENT THERE
OOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE YOU APOLLO
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“he said grape juice has something in it that helps you relax”
are we going into grape juice lore here
"Really? ...Um, are you sure he was talking about regular, plain old grape juice?”
Yes, actually, Athena. It’s canonical that it is /actual off-the-vine welsh’s good ol’ sippy cup grape juice/. It’s not a metaphor or a censoring for kids, it’s just juice.
Of course, this is written by the DDSOJ staff. And considering the intense, dark n’ gritty action makeover the series got, I wouldn’t put it past them to retcon the juice into the... “fermented variety”. thanks Athena.
Yayyy not only do they write shitty dads, but they have to retroactively en-shitten Phoenix as an alcoholic father. Gosh, I sure do love these guys.
(obviously this isn’t a dig at anyone who head canons gj as wine, there’s a difference between head canons and malicious retconning.)
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hmm interesting mechanic for this chair. i guess since you can’t stuff it in your inventory you cant do the ‘look all over’ thing. but on the other hand, they REALLY wanted to impress you with that hidden blood.
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Ema: [performs a blood test in 2 seconds] I didn’t get a match!
Well probably not in that time, babe
i have to commend them on the little cutscene though that was nice.
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again, i guess Amara really liked emotionally stunted fuckwads
the devil horns are a bit much, though.
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oh damn.
thats a nice ass pendant
...oh thats blood
well, it sets off the pink and gold quite nicely. and its a butterfly... seems like something Dahlia would wear
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“speak of the devil...”
speak of the devil indeed. hiiiiiii sadmad... its been a while.
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oh ok he didnt say anything
also i find it funny that apollos like “Wait!! wait!! damnit, after him!”
and then you just. go back into the talk menu with Ema. bit of a moment killer, there.
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“why does everything have to be so difficult with you?”
cause hes a prosecutor, apollo. thats just how it is on this bitch of an earth
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“the law is the law. placing personal feelings above it is beyond reprieve”
ah but placing religion above it is totally fine. gotcha yuts
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“And the winner is... prosecutor Sahdmadi!”
helpful, athena
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“it’s like he’s trying to cover something up with his pretty words!”
oh did you mean the inevitable reveal that he's actually a good guy and we have to forgive him for being a shitwad?
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oh wow. that joke post about sadmad developing generalized anxiety was actually based on a legit thing that happened
is it ok if i hate him even more for it? i mean how did he figure it out? he didn’t let apollo use it in court so where would he have gained the knowledge? unless he knows about Thalassa’s abilities...
...also, how /is/ he doing this? the way Perceive works isn’t just “i can sense that you’re uncomfortable”, it’s that people who can use it have extremely good eye-sight and see tiny little movements in other people. If they’re smart about it, they can tell that the movements mean the enemy is lying. Apollo just happens to get tense when he notices this, most likely because he’s kind of straining his eyes.
But then again that brings up the fact that his power would act up CONSTANTLY, either because EVERYBODY FIDGETS, or Apollo himself could just be stressed and making the bracelet squeeze on its own.
So thanks, SOJ. Not content with ruining Apollo’s canon, you’ve also got to ruin his cool lawyer power. Gosh, you’re just the gift that keeps on giving, aren’t you?
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“Powerless in the face of the Holy Mother’s blessings”
SOJ team is now nicknamed the Holy Mother. Or possibly the Unholy Mother.
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“Looks like your power won’t work against Sadmadhi. Guess we’ll have to try something else.”
“Yeah, let’s ask Dhurke...”
Yeah. Because you obviously don’t have someone with you RIGHT NOW who ALSo has a special power. You dont even have TWO POEPLE with you with a special power. Guess we’d better talk to the man who birthed this shiteater.
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“I won against Mr. Wright”
yeah in a completely rigged trial where losing would be the worst option. thats not really something to brag about, you know.
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“...doomed to be reborn as something lower than a bug or a vegetable”
you heard it here first folks Sadmad hates sustaining agriculture and the bees.
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>Lang’s scrolls and dickfuckery
>Edgeworth’s by-the-bookishness
>Franziska’s catchphrase
>Blackquill’s backstory twist
These were the ingredients chosen to make the perfect prosecutor. But the SOJ writers accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction: BAD WRITING
THUS UNINSPIRED ASSHOLE WAS BORN!
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apollo you don’t matter to anyone anymore youre getting the boot. do as your foster pop said when you were a drowning 5 y/o and suck those pussy baby tears back into your skull.
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welp thats it for part one of investigation day 2. now (i think) we’re headed over to the delicious pandering of Phoenix and Edgeworth, back together. Will it bring me solace despite being an obvious ratings grab?
good god, i hope so.
till next time.
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do you think there is any chance of Keith and Lotor being half brothers or something
ok so ive been thinking about this a lot myself lately so hERE w e gO:
uHHHH,,,,
uhhHHHH,,,
well,, as someone who has both a druid keith theory and also cant get over the noticeable similarities between haggar and lotor, uhHHH,,,,
i wouldnt rule it out as a possibility. it would certainly make for an interesting dynamic between the two. for one thing, we know that lotor is at least not full galra, and most probably part altean. ive said it before and ill say it again, but i definitely think giving both allura’s family and haggar white hair while still keeping lotor’s white was v much intentional, and shows some kind of relation between them. now, we know lotor looks pretty visibly both galran and altean. and if he’s still zarkon’s son, then we can pretty safely assume thats where most of his galra genes come from. of course, if he and keith were both haggar’s sons, then that would make keith somewhat altean as well.
but i mean, nothing that says keith’s other parent has to be full galra. there’s this one thing hunk says that kinda tips it off, but i feel it gets kinda glossed over:
so i think this kinda opens the door for a lot of different options. this galra thing could be something that goes back a few generations, or could be a case where his other parent wasnt fully galra (like haggar) and in the case of an altean parent, we can also explain away keith’s completely human appearance with the whole shapeshifter gene thing
but see like,,, becuase im someone who really believes haggar is lotor’s mom, i just dont like this theory purely because…then i have to live with the idea that keith’s dad got with haggar lmao. like, i really think a lot of mr kogane’s parenting choices were bad enough (you didnt even get that boy a bed to sleep in bro) but i would hope he maybe had the good sense not to get involved with an evil space witch ya know
haggar and kogane would also be really weird because, well, supposedly keith’s mom was in the bom. haggar really seems invested in looking out for zarkon, i cant see her ever trying to start a coup. she was also pretty deadset on stopping keith and thace, so uh…ya…
but, if we rule out haggar as the mom, then things dont get much easier. cause then youre stuck with a scenario where zarkon’s queen/girlfriend/whatever was a rebel plotting to overthrow him. like, as soon as he found out, she would end up very dead very fast. i could see lotor quickly getting disowned over something like that, maybe even thrown in prison, tortured for information (depending on his age), ect. i also highly doubt lotor would sound so loyal to zarkon in vld if his mom really did go against zarkon, especially given the way he handled his dad killing her in the original
but, then aGAIIIN,,,
we dont actually know for sure that keith’s mom was loyal to the bom. i mean, if you look at the whole scene in keith’s hallucination–that does not look like a very nice homecoming. kogane says keith’s mom is on the way, but you know who else is in the way? the giant fucking galra ship and that army of droids that are invading earth. like, this does not make his mom look like one of the Good Guys
the way this scene is portrayed, it seriously looks like his mom is with the invasion force. its also really suspicious that keith says the bom have told him nothing so far. what even was the point of the whole knowledge or death thing if you dont even?? get the knowledge??? that makes me feel like the bom are hiding stuff from him–you know, more so than your average secret alien society i guess
also!! something i think really gets overlooked–remember why ulaz freed shiro in the first place? ya, that was cause the galra had discovered the blue lion. on earth.
you know, the same lion thats conveniently within walking distance of keith’s shack.
the same shack where keith’s dad lives. and as far as we know, he was the first and only human to ever interact with a galra on earth. then, suddenly, they’re both gone. and some years later, the galra magically have intel that the blue lion is on earth. we have no evidence that there were any other scouts there other than keith’s mom though.
so like, im not saying keith’s mom tipped off the galra about where the blue lion was, but like…if she did i wouldn’t be all that surprised
so anyway, long story short–i think on the genetics side of things, it makes sense. theyre both partially galra. lotor is also clearly part altean, and altean genes might explain why keith looks the way he does (and can sense/connect with other lions like allura does). but the biggest problem then is you have to reconcile the fact that the person zarkon was with was also maybe an agent of the bom. and even if she was loyal to zarkon and not them, then she’s still considered a traitor to keith’s dad and the resistance.
so either way their mom would be a traitor, and i dont know that might be too much of an incongruence for the narrative. but i mean, if they did have the same mom, then lotor and keith would likely have very varying opinions on her (depending on her loyalty) and the way their own dynamic would play out from that could be very interesting.
removing their mom from the equation for a minute, i do think having lotor and keith related in some way does make sense thematically though. because, right now there’s no real connection. the thing that really fueled their rivalry in the original was lotor’s obsession with allura–something that staff has already said theyre not bringing back. so like, i think there needs to be something else there to kinda spark that rivalry. ya, the fact that they’re both half-galra could do it. but i think it makes it so much more personal if lotor’s family.
especially since it would be the ultimate thing to test keith’s loyalty to the team–his found family, or his biological one? and honestly, as someone who’s struggled with my own family for years, to see keith not give a damn about his blood and love team voltron just the same would be so rewarding for me. because, wasn’t that part of what keith realized in season 2? that he doesn’t necessarily need whatever his lost family could’ve given him to feel whole? that team voltron is still his family just the same? i think its way more powerful a message to show that, even if your family doesnt accept you, even if they arent there for you, even if they’ve done horrible things, you can still always find people out there who will love and accept you. you can find your own family
so ya, i think making keith and lotor brothers could ultimately lead to some really good character development and a nice overarching theme that ties into voltron’s whole found family thing. and i would really like that honestly
one last thing real quick–that thing with their eyes. ya, i know there are scenes where keith’s eyes look more purple depending on the light. but, you know who else has eyes the same color as keith’s for the one scene they’re in? mr father of the year right here
so im not sure id really hinge everything on something like eye color, especially considering that there’s this whole debate over whether keith’s are purple/violet/grey/blue/whatever. but i do think the fact that lotor inherits purple eyes instead of the traditional galra yellow, as well as the fact that keith’s do look distinctly purple in some light, can maybe point to something. not really sure what, but its something. doesn’t change the fact that kogane’s eyes look really similar to his son’s though (more importantly, they look similar in the same lighting, so we know its the color itself and not just a trick of the light)
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