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#they have the same vibes as some choice btvs ships
namorian · 2 years
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Wenvier has spuffy parallels (xavier = human William energies lbr, pathetic meow meow crush on main character, I would 100% call them an “embarrassing freak couple” if I was a teen bully)
But wenclay also has spuffy parallels (enemies to lovers, saved world together, goth x girly jock vibes etc)
But wenclay also also has coffy parallels (queen bee x action girl, queen on queen action, insane girlbosses who have stabbed people over lunch tables energies)
Also wenvier has sprusilla parallels (sappy man and deranged girl, gothic romance energies, femdom, man has entire course of his life changed by a creepy brunette girl while surrounded by death literal or metaphorical)
Hope this made any sense lol
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marlborodean · 3 years
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here’s my analysis of a 14-yr-old supernatural episode
so remember that episode where sam fucked a werewolf? because he related to her unwilling monstrosity? well that episode is actually just about dean starting to come to grips with his childhood and his sexuality.
if you ship w/ncest do not interact. this post is not anti-sam either btw. 
content warning: discussions of childhood trauma, internalized homophobia, guns, killing. 
does include some images with Image Descriptions following them.
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[ID: An over-the-shoulder close-up shot from the episode, focused on Madison, the werewolf, as she cries. Dean is standing behind her. They are both looking at Sam, whose shoulder is on the edge of the frame. End ID.]
Brief episode recap just in case u don’t remember. This ep is 2x17 “Heart.” Sam and Dean are hunting a werewolf. They discover that the woman they interviewed, Madison, is a werewolf (not THEE werewolf, but one of them). Sam develops a lil crush on her <3 I wrote the majority of this after watching it for the first time in almost SIX years, so i was just vibing the whole time UNTIL the last shot changed it all for me. So let me explain!
Three important points that i will refer back to:
1. The episode begins with Dean being excited to hunt a werewolf because "what about a human by day, a freak animal killing machine by moonlight don't you understand? I mean, werewolves are badass. We haven't seen one since we were kids."
2. Then the episode centers on Sam and his relationship with the werewolf woman and his own monstrosity: "[Dean: Sam, she's a monster and you're feeling sorry for her?] Maybe I understand her."
3. BUT THEN the last shot of the episode is of Dean crying as music plays (see below for the specific lyrics) and then Dean jumps at the sound of the gunshot. That's it! That's the end of the episode!
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[ID: For all three screencaps, Dean is looking torturously sad. Each one is zoomed a little bit closer to his face than the last. In the last image, Dean sheds a single man tear. The captioned lyrics for the first one say "Relax, child, you were there." The second says "but only didn't realize" and the third says "and you were scared." End ID]
Even though the story is supposed to be about Sam and his monstrosity, and partly about his relationship w/romance since this is the first person he’s slept with since Jess died (at least with what is shown on screen)...the Dean Sandwich tells us otherwise. We're supposed to be taking away something about DEAN here. Like, that's the whole purpose behind the last shot focusing solely on Dean instead of Sam who is AT THAT MOMENT, KILLING THE GIRL HE HAS FEELINGS FOR. It's literally a heartbreaking, devastating, super traumatic thing for Sam to be going through, but instead we're watching Dean as a single tear slides down his face lmao. It's because this episode is about DEAN, and furthering his story.
Let’s not queer this just yet. The death of the werewolf is about/representing his loss of innocence. It's a violent disconnect from his childhood. Point # 1 shows that he is fascinated by werewolves because since he was a kid he thought they were badass, not to mention all the werewolf films he references throughout. Then, through the music lyrics over that last scene, they mirror that theme of childhood. They’ve done this before, having the diegetic music directly reference what the characters are going through. No different here: Dean is the child they’re referring to.
I have to reiterate that that's the last thing we hear before the gunshot cuts the music short and then the cut to black. "You were scared" is the last thing we hear before the gunshot, as Dean cries. ALSO I have to reiterate that Dean was looking forward to killing a werewolf and shooting it himself. So it's super fascinating that, not only is Sam the one that kills the werewolf, WE DON’T EVEN SEE IT HAPPEN.
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[ID: A medium-close shot of Dean as he looks at Sam, who takes up the right half of the frame. The caption says, “Sammy, I got this one. I’ll do it.” End ID.]
Am i gonna have to say this now? The werewolf is a metaphor, okay? It's a metaphor for his innocence, which is long-dead, forever doomed. I mean, a lot of kids love werewolves because they ARE badass! It's a classic monster that anyone could easily obsess over, and with Dean's childhood it must've seemed even cooler, knowing they're real and having the power to kill this "mythical" beast. So the way he's looking forward to killing one is the way a child imagines themselves as a hero.
But what happens instead is a tragic mercy killing. It's flipping his fantasy completely on its head, and it makes Dean realize that.....his fantasies are just fantasies. They aren't real, never would be. There's nothing heroic about killing this werewolf. It's tragic as hell. When he offers to kill her himself, it's just to relieve Sam's burden, but he's reluctant still. Because, as he keeps saying, he doesn't want to be a hunter! He doesn't want this life! He's tired of killing! And that's also what he's mourning as he cries and startles at the gunshot. His fantasies will never be real and his childhood could never have been normal and he never got a chance to be a kid because being a hunter was thrust on him at such a young age. And now it feels inescapable.
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[ID: A gif of the slow zoom on Dean’s face as the single tears slips down his cheek. He jumps at the gunshot, then blinks and his lip wobbles. End ID.]
So now we can queer it :-) Of course all monster stories can be easily queered, but werewolves are popularly queered. The first example that comes to mind is An American Werewolf in London (1981) isn’t an overtly queer film (though it is Jewish!) but it’s definitely read that way by a lot of people!! Anyway the film was directed by John Landis which JUST SO HAPPENS to be the pseudonym Dean goes by in this episode. hmm. (Also, interestingly, the BTVS ep where the first gay character comes out references this film too)
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[ID: Sam and Dean are standing close to each other. Sam is in the foreground, not in focus. Dean, behind him, says, “Landis. And Detective Dante.” End ID.]
There’s this essay about the queer werewolf that you can read here (and they also talk about fandom in it! very fascinating), where they say in the intro: “the werewolf seems an obvious choice as a queer monster with its identity-disrupting hybridity, as well as its atavistic, and, thus, disallowable sexuality.” A lot like Kristeva’s theory of the abject body! which is popular in queer theory. 
This episode is then queering Sam—his attraction to the werewolf makes him abject—but it also queers Dean thru the way his attitude towards the werewolf transforms (get it?) throughout the ep. His desire and eagerness to kill the werewolves is obviously ingrained in him from John’s parenting. Consider what he said in 2x03 “Bloodlust”: “And the way he raised us, to hate those things—and man, I hate them, I do.” In conjunction with the monsters in the show being seen as queer allegories (the gorgon, as an example of an explicit comparison), Dean’s excitement to kill the werewolf can be read as internalized homophobia and repressing any of his own feelings. 
Remember, though, right before that line in “Bloodlust,” he also said, “What if we killed things that didn’t deserve killing?” He’s really beginning to question whether all monsters are bad, and what it means to kill them. Is he also questioning what he believes of queer people? What John believed of queer people? The loss of innocence and queering both slot together through that final shot, imo: he’s crying because he realizes his fantasies aren’t real, but he’s also mourning the fact that he never could have had the chance to grow up without John’s control, and now it’s forever tainted his worldview. What else could he have been without that? (The answer is evident in 4x17 “It’s a Terrible Life.”)
Dean was taught to hate queer people but he doesn't want to. He wants to get out of the life but it feels inescapable. He wants to kill a werewolf and then when he has the chance, he doesn't want to. He actually cries as it's killed. It scares him, having to confront that what he thought he knew was wrong, but he knows all the same that he’ll never have the chance to have grown up without that. 
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jamfingers · 6 years
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So I just watched 'The Man from UNCLE' (Due to a klonnie parallel I saw) and Gaby and Illya gave me major klonnie vibes especially with that height difference. I was wondering if you have any movies that you've seen where you get Bamon/Klonnie/Bonkai vibes. I would love to give them a watch. Thanks in advance
Lol, hey I saw you sent this ask to @bonneibennett so I’m flattered to have been considered with them.
The problem with Bonkai being my OTP is that I can literally watch anything and be all “imagine if Bonnie and Kai…” in response to whatever is happening, including the movies I’ll give to Klonnie and Bamon. BUT for BK specifically: there is one episode of Supernatural called “Shut Up, Dr. Phil” in which two witches (played by BtVS alums Charisma Carpenter and James Marsters!) are getting divorced. They’re like Bonkai if they were together and going through a tiff. They try to kill each other, but won’t stand for Sam and Dean trying to hunt/hurt the other. If I were going to pick movie genres for BK, it would be psychological thriller and crime drama, so you could search movies in that ilk if you’re feeling it. “Silence of the Lambs”, “The Perfect Man”, “Shutter Island”, “Heathers” (the ht difference bt JD and Veronica!), and “Swimfan” are some choice picks. So is “Beetlejuice” just bc Beetlejuice is a troll like Kai and (sort of) trapped in his own ghostly world.
For Bamon, ignoring my feelings about D, I’m going to consider stuff with with the same kind snark and ‘girl and boy disagree, but grow on each other anyway’ story. I would go for romcoms like “When Harry Met Sally” and “The Princess Bride” (one my favorite movies ever, btw) bc both movies have couples that just snap and snarl at each other like bamon do, but are still very protective each other and their relationship. For more dramatic romance, “Pride and Prejudice” - either film adaptation bc Mr. Darcy is such a jerk at first and Elizabeth’s refusal to just accept his foolishness reminds me of s2 Bamon. Darcy actually getting it together is the Damon arc we all deserved.
Klonnie is my second fave hetero crackship for Bonnie bc I liked the study in contrasts and animosity they provided that’s all together different from other Bonnie x *insert bad boy* ships - it makes me think of the surreal disturbing ordinary existence. Thus, I would go for sci-fi/fantasy/horror genres for them, so movies like “Labyrinth” (another fave!), “Inception”, or “Fright Night” (go for the Colin Farrell one for the sfx) would fit it. Klonnie also has some pretty Shakespearean vibes, so any films based off a Billy Shakes play would suit them, especially the tragedies.
And might I suggest the classic, “Mr. & Mrs. Smith” simply bc that dynamic would 1000% encompass Bonnie with any of these punks.
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