#they are the biggest kanthony fans

[rainbow-sunshine-unicorn]

Bridgertons + thinking Kate and Anthony are perfect for each other

[lily-s-world]

Truly love Bridgerton, it is my comfort show. But I always have trouble with people on the fandom, throwing to the ground female characters just because they have strong personalities or raise their voices when they are mad.

I love Kanthony, but Edwina had every right to be mad at them for not being honest about their feelings. They both continued with the marriage idea even though they were clearly in love. My girl had valid reasons to throw tantrums at them.

And now with this new trailer and everybody attacking Eloise. The Eloise whose reputation almost got destroyed by Lady Whistledown, only for her to find out that it had been her best friend all along. She also had every right to be furious at Penelope. And yes, Eloise also has her list of mistakes and bad traits she needs to work on; which is also fair that Penelope isn't her biggest fan right now. They are both characters making mistakes that they need to learn from.

Not to mention these characters are supposed to be in their late teens/early 20s. Didn't you go to high school and saw at first glance girls behavior when they were mad at each other?

This is what multi-faceted female characters sometimes look like. They can make mistakes, they can raise their voices, they can create chaos, they can hurt people unintentionally... all is part of the process of character development. You can't create growth in a character if they always do the right thing or are always perfect.

Don't ask for strong female characters if you are going to attack them the moment they show up.

[dollypopup]

bridgerton season 3 part 2 spoilers

I want to preface this with saying that I have loved Polin for two years. Two years, hundreds of thousands of words, and almost 50 stories. I have loved this couple through fan edits, through fics, through rereads, through songs. I have loved this couple so deeply and earnestly and endlessly

And so my disappointment in Part 2 stems, predominately, from the fact that I just wish it had been better.

I wish it hadn't been as cut through with plotlines that went, ultimately, nowhere. Will and Alice with the tension of 'I don't want to give up the club' 'Well, you should to suit the status quo' 'Oh, okay'. Benedict with his 'I love being free. Let's shag freely!' 'I may have feelings for you' 'I still just want to shag freely, but now I'm opening up more options' (tho, congrats on the bisexuality!) Violet and Marcus who are just being set up for the final season. Cressida, who's story tugged my heartstrings so much, and ended up in the dirt.

But more than anything, I wish Colin had gotten more. There were so many moments where he could have been expanded upon, where his character could have shined, and I truly want to commend Luke Newton, he did a phenomenal job with the crumbs he was given, but was ultimately shoved to the wayside for the Lady Whistledown plot.

In truth, this is a writing problem. The actors are phenomenal. They have chemistry, they have passion, and they are all believable, but the writing fell flat. They gave too much time to side plots and, frankly, to Debling, who was such a nothingburger and didn't even return that it was evident he only existed because the series was afraid to lean fully into Colin's complexities. You know what is more compelling and more worthwhile to explore than 'Oh, I could lose her to someone else?'

Losing her to herself.

Colin spent part 2 ultimately SAD. And he had every right to be. But instead of fully exploring that, he was relegated to the sidelines to support Penelope's storyline. And I understand completely that this season was for the Pen stans, but damn, I wish he got SOMETHING. Kanthony's advice to him was useless, Colin started the series knowing he couldn't open up to his brothers and still not doing so by the end. Colin saying that his ultimate purpose was to support and love Pen was a horrific cop out and a disservice of his character. It's a bad plotline when a woman says so for a man, and it's a bad plotline when a man says so for a woman.

I love these two so much, and I feel like they could have had so much better. Penelope now writing the same gossip, tying herself to Mayfair, but under her name now, thus ensuring that people are aware and being different around her for the sake of her publication is bad. To imply that her dreams are Lady Whistledown is lazy- Lady Whistledown is a plot device the writers are unable to let go, not Penelope's ultimate dreams.

You want me to believe that this woman's biggest dreams are to continue writing gossip? Not novels? Not stories? Not an autobiography? Not to travel? Not to make more friends? But to have a baby and write about parties? They tried giving legitimacy to gossip as if Penelope ever had any peer review, as if she is the be all end all of what is and is not true- she cannot possibly know fully.

I wanted more for her than to be a teenage mum tied to a gossip blog. I wanted more for Colin than to publish a book offscreen and take over an estate until his son comes of age. I wanted more for POLIN. Their beautiful moments were truly BEAUTIFUL. That first time scene was lovely- but how much lovelier would it be after he knew who she was in full and accepted all of it? Their reconciliation felt hollow because he was not truly given the time to process it. The pain of separation, sleeping on the couch as she took the bed, was hardly explored outside of a few quick scenes.

No montage of their letters, no Colin standing beside her, and that Lady Whistledown reveal where everyone clapped? I don't understand it. I wish so much that this show took a good story and made it better, and that's where my bitterness lies. Not because I'm a hater, but because I'm a lover. I wanted to love it so, so much.

And I know it could have been better. My couple is better than this. My couple is better than Penelope's ultimate goal being independence and Colin's ultimate goal being an accessory. My couple is a pair of equals. My couple is a pairing of two people who love one another so damn much they can't even stand it. Where is my Penelope who fights for him? Where is my Colin who announces to the world he loves her?

I guess that Polin ended up on the cutting room floor in the edits, because what we got wasn't enough for me

[penspolin]

Evidence Suggesting Benedict Bridgerton is the Lead of Season 4

As our beloved Colin says, I am indeed looking to the future and needed to make this for my own sanity heading into part 2. Prefacing this also by saying that I see the evidence for Eloise as well - none of this is official confirmation, only an array of hints/reasons why Benedict seems well-suited to being the S4 lead. Thought it might be good to put the evidence together. Some very minor spoilers for AOFAG here.

Already skipped once - To me, this is the biggest reason why Benedict is best suited for (and should be) the lead of S4. Moving Colin's story up a season made sense considering the progression of Polin's story, but if Benedict is delayed again the creators risk pissing the audience off more than they already have. Benedict is often regarded as a source of humor in the show, but if they keep recycling ideas with him, he could very well fall off of peoples' radar and lose his "fan-favorite" position.

"Purposeless" Benedict - Needless to say, Benedict is lost this season. We've known this since his character promo came out. He's lost art and has found himself running into the arms of yet another capable woman, only this one seems to have captured a great deal of his investment. The result? Potential heartbreak. This heartbreak would leave him in a similar state as AOFAG--aimless,

Anti-society - Benedict has made frequent comments throughout this season regarding his feelings on societal pressure. The underlying commentary here relates to class, and we know class is a huge theme with his relationship to Sophie. It's as if the writers want us to be fully aware of Benedict's feelings on these subjects to set up a potential conflict next season.

Dancing Benedict - A minor thing, but there have been quite a few mentions of Benedict's dancing abilities this season. Could be a hint at the masquerade ball.

Cowper-focus/Araminta Cowper - The Cowpers have gotten a fair bit of screen time this season, and not just Cressida. We've been let into their home and have witnessed the interactions between the family members. They seem to be experiencing some financial strain. In addition, a very significant detail was released recently: Mother Cowper's first name is "Araminta," the same name as Sophie's evil stepmother in the book. Curious that this was only brought up just now rather than in previous seasons.

Vauxhall - The code name for season 4 is "Vauxhall," which has a significant connection to masquerades (and scandal in general). Season 2 and 3 code names have all had some connection to the storyline (war and conflict for Kanthony and literature for Polin).

Casting call - there was an announcement about a casting call while shooting season 3 for a lady that would be leading "the next series." I won't get into all the details, but you can find all the details here: https://x.com/vengerb3rg/status/1742173304494936496. It also references the rumored casting of Masali Baduza in Sophie's role.

Luke Newton interview - Luke Newton did an interview where he mentioned that he was excited to see where Benedict's storyline will go next season. The verbiage could indicate that Benedict's arc will take the spotlight in S4. LN also mentioned having a dinner with all of the previous Bridgerton leads + Luke Thompson which could be a coincidence, or could've been a purposeful gathering.

References to Violet moving into a Dower House - Coming directly from S3 P1, we have a discussion between Violet and Kate about Violet moving into a Dower house. Violet throws a masquerade ball to celebrate moving into the Dower house, which coincidentally is where Benedict first meets Sophie. There have been rumors about this ball taking place at the end of S3.

Luke Thompson being nervous about spoiling Benedict's storyline - Maybe he would've been nervous anyway, but some have suggested that Luke Thompson's apparent anxiety about spoiling Benedict's story arc this season indicates that he is being set up to lead S4.

As I said, none of this should be taken as official confirmation, but the evidence stacks up. There's been a lot of rumors and discussions lately, so if I missed anything, please let me know! I'd love to add it to give an overview of evidence.

[giveupcoffeeforsanka]

@thetulipanon is a liar.

There's a whole slew of angry Kanthony fans willing to believe them because they're giving voice to your conspiracies.

STOP GIVING THEM BREATH.

This person has already told us all the places they do not work, but still wants you all to believe that they're close enough to the money people to know what the P&L will look like.

Meanwhile, Netflix's official earnings report will be out October 17.

Also, again, in the real world: "Netflix earnings: Subscriber growth beats estimates after big 'Bridgerton success"

So YES, viewership numbers matter because Netflix makes money (profit) in 3 ways: subscriptions (a market that is nearing saturation), content licensing, and partnerships (with tech giants, but also with places like Bath & Body Works, Ruggable, and Williams Sonoma...you know from their hit show Bridgerton).

There's no way for them to know about projections for season 3. There's also no way for the general public to know about projections for season 3 – that's internal company information. So just think – use your brains – and think WHY would someone from the company come online and slag off one of the platforms biggest shows?

This isn't the dangerous sort, BUT IT IS STILL DISINFORMATION! Stop buying into this bullshit! Start calling it out!

If this person really worked at Netflix (they don't) they wouldn't have the time or capacity to run an anonymous blog that's nothing more than a vehicle for some made up vendetta against an actor that doesn't know they exist.

Be smarter, Bridgerton fandom.

[mariailoveyou-guerin]

Watching ep1 again cuz I wanna know why it’s not one of my favs of the season since I love 324 so FCVKING much and I think it’s cuz kanthony like why was there so much them it made me psychically ill i just couldn’t watch their scenes bc imagine being all happy giddy like y’all didn’t ruin Edwina life and the half sister Kate smiling like she didnt just betray and backstab her own so called sister 😂 I have never seen a bigger LOSER then Kate Sharma I’m soo sorry but imagine not only fighting for yt man with ur own sister but you being a grown a88 woman in her 30s soon and Fighting your 17 year old sister over a yt man a rake that’s just nasty and sexist misogynistic like nah never ever have I seen a bigger LOSER character or female in history of media kanyhony deserved each other just for that meh reason alone both being miserable losers who don’t and didnt deserve sh*t!! also they never beating the lust sex ship allegations because why was all their scenes just them having se*x like every fcvking scene they really forcing the ship atp bc they know so many people hate it even if it’s fan favourite the amount of people who hate is large so they trying so hard to make them seem cute and lovable but it’s just coming off as forced and just nasty out of character all that se*x is very on brand for them bc they never talked just went straight to se*x it’s giving that riverdale se*x only ship! But yeah it was to much them actually ewwww way to mf much the hand holding at start was so forced Kate isnt that kinda girl!

The funny part is her princess sister WON by miles she got the nasty man sure but her sister got everything else and we love to see the love and admiration from the queen the big pretty wedding and the diamond and getting courted whole szn oh she deserves it so much

Thank god they didn’t ruin my favorite episode like they did ep1 with all that se*x they constantly was having unnecessary so bc it didn’t bring anything to the show or their characters but thankfully the skip button exists just for that reason for kanthony scenes and thankfully didn’t have to use it as much this szn like I did in s2 because I was just skipping every time they was together alone every kanthony scene without Edwina was skip ⏭️ skip skip and I loved it so much!

now just gotta skip some more but at least it’s polin snz saving me unlike s2 so I’m beyond happy actually!

Kate Sharma was really a 26y/o woman fighting her 17 year old sister for a yt man! can u say biggest loser in tv history! I’m just sad for Simone Ashley for having worst role in a show where female characters are so complex huge in personality big part of the show and her role as Kate wasnt/isn’t like you can see when she disappears no one nobody noticed and it makes zero difference in the show as whole like even with Cressida disappearing would’ve made more of difference and what happened kinda feeling and that’s sad but Kate deserves nothing so I’m regrade I’m happy bc it’s what Kate deserves!

[lookingfts]

Is the last snippet from a specific AU, or just general Kanthony in any universe?

Just a general Kanthony! I think it would work for a fic where Kate is famous in some way, royalty/actress/singer/model (and perhaps Anthony isn't famous, but is absolutely her biggest fan) - but I don't have any fics like that.

[jeanvanjer]

Colors of spice? Wtf does that even mean. Just browns, greens and blacks? Why not take inspiration from our colorful heritage, festivals, textiles or even the flora and fauna. Have they not seen our beautiful birds? Hello! Peacocks!

Do they know how to use google? How about open a history book or even a wikipedia article? Ffs their arrogance is staggering atp! 🤬🤬🤬

Seeing what Cressida is wearing this season I’m actually happy they didn’t take inspo from peacocks 😂

I feel like it was a throwaway comment which makes it worse imo. As if that’s what comes to your mind mentally when you think Indian or South Asian people. Really thought they were doing something with that spice comment. Sorry honey you were not.

But I agree with you anon! We have so much to look at for inspiration! I mean literally just look at latest South Asian fashion and just take what you will from there. Tbh an expert isnt even needed for colours and designs. We get it Kate’s looks aren’t priority this season but at least use google??? This also just shows they don’t know the bare minimum especially when they don’t know the difference between a dupatta and what Sarees are. Huge difference bro.

Thank god for all the other fugly looks this season (sorry but I’m not a fan) because if they kept everything the same and changed it up for Kate that’s weirdly alienating. You don’t have to make it so obvious she’s not English. They were on the right track last season imo. The dresses were western enough to suit Bridgertons aesthetic but also had the nice amount of Indian/South Asian flair. Literally all of those dresses I could easily remake by going to frantic stores in India.

I don’t really see a lot of Indian influence in the clothes right now. Sure we’ve only seen three outfits? But they’ve all been trash sorry. And post spice comment that reddish make out dress makes me think tandoori masala. Kate is a snack and a half (Anthony would know) but I’m sure that’s not what they were aiming for. The colours aren’t it. And nothing in the designs screams Indian either. It just looks bargain bin fabric.

The biggest issues for me is that they don’t suit Kate’s (Simone) skin tone? I’ve only seen gori gori Indian girls wear such neutral tones and look good. Simone looks great but she’s look way better in colours that were bolder. Nor is it culturally appropriate considering Kate’s young and newly married and usually brides wear bold and bright colours. Not neutral tones. Using jewel tones was 🤌🏽 and they should stuck to it. God what I wouldn’t do to have that Sheffields dinner dress Kate wears.

Let’s see what the other looks in the season are like for Kate. I’m not too optimistic but I guess shitty fashion is the compromise I need to make to get three seconds of kanthony time.

[anti-benophie]

Hey!!! welcome

 Hey guys! I decided, with the impending S4 start filming,  and the constant hate the benophie and their friends kanthony stans always spread to anyone,  with their elite groups ( some of them think are better than others) , there needed to be a safe space for others to come and rant/vent about the shippers and the ship itself! I was  a fan of the whole show but then when i saw the mistreatment towards fans even of their own ship i say, wow, crazy behaviour I know they can be super nasty shippers to the rest of us, general viewers or fans of other ships OR ALL SHIPS, because god forbid you to like the show itself. So I just wanted a place for people to talk about them, etc. We can talk about actors, ships and fans here. Honestly im taking this blog as a personal space to rant about all i dislike and i hope some people join me here to do the same Yes, I’m aware that there are nasty shippers in every corner of the fandom, but that’s true everywhere lbr here. This is about Benophie’s and kanthony`s specifically. I will be leaving anon ON so if y'all aren’t comfortable being 'seen’ by those shippers, you can say what you think without being worried about them attacking you. They’ve doxxed,  they’ve talked about our bodies and criticize characters bodies, also spread unhealthy stereotypes, just because is MORE sexy, or the only sexy things,  all over us not liking their fictional ship , or like one particular ship, or when we criticize either half of said ship, or the actors, god forbid us to not like the actors I also think we’re VERY much allowed to criticize benophie or kanthiny, which are very toxic but their fans refuse to see it. The hate poor Edwina has been receiving, for her the racism doesn't matter???  and criticize the actors and whoever will be the actress  of Sophie and their actions with other actors. Honestly LT has been really nice to all the other actors but his fans are SO SO NASTY. Moreover, why didn't he have an instagram account?? SA: why she never left likes or comments on her co-stars of Bton posts??? etc etc Anyhow, that’s why I made this blog! Feel free to pop in and say hello or just start sharing your negative thoughts/opinions on them If you send this blog hate, I’ll just roast you for being a dick like the cheater, the man who was a jerk with his siblings or the one who insisted on a woman to be his mistress, or ignore it which will probably just annoy you so maybe think twice before doing that. To end my presentation i will thank enormously @antipolin account for being my biggest inspiration and because seeing that blog give the last push to decide to do this. Hope many people will be happy 

[irelandhoneybee]

Tagged by @qs63

3 ships: Kanthony (Bridgerton); totally was not expecting these two to eat my brain when I watched season 2 last spring but hot damn did they.  What can I say, enemies-to-lovers is my favorite trope. Karedevil (Daredevil) I will always love these two despite what happens going forward.  Let’s just say I have not been the biggest fan of Matt Murdock/Daredevil in the MCU based on what we’ve seen so far.  Also #savekarenpage, Jafael (Jane the Virgin) Had to give spot 3 to these cuties, it was between them and Mel/Jack from Virgin River (do they even have an official ship name?? They need one!) But ultimately have to give it to these two chaotic idiots 

Last Song: The one I’ve had on repeat the most lately is “Fallen Snow” by First Aid Kit.  Honorable mention though to the entire Midnights album, which I continue to listen to constantly (I regularly wake up with either “Anti-Hero” or “Snow on the Beach” in my head)

Last Movie: I think it was The Good Nurse, which I really enjoyed.  Unbelievably weird true story (It’s on Netflix)

Currently Watching: I actually just finished George & Tammy, which  really enjoyed.  I’m not really a country music fan, but my paternal grandma absolutely adored George Jones, so I am very familiar with his music and I love both Jessica Chastain and Michael Shannon (both were incredible in it imo).  Up next is probably Physical (on Apple) which has been on my “to watch” list forever and I keep thinking I should go ahead and start my Sopranos re-watch

Currently consuming: an Iced Brown Sugar Oatmilk Shaken Espresso (my go-to Starbucks order) and munching on Annie’s (brand) fruit snacks

Currently craving: I am always craving dark chocolate in any form (on its own, truffles, peanut butter cups, covering fruit, I don’t care, just give me all the dark chocolate)

Tagging @spookyshai :) 

[shadowqueenjude]

Hello~ I hope you're having a wonderful day! ^^

I absolutely loved reading your thoughts on my last question. Your responses always make me smile! It's not just that I agree and relate to them, but it's also so much fun talking with someone who loves and appreciates Elain and Lucien as much as I do <3

Let's keep the fun going with another question ^^

What AU couple(s) do you think has the most Elucien vibes?

Also, what are some of your favorite fictional couples besides Elucien (they don’t have to be limited to books)?

- Your Secret Santa 💗🦊

AHHHHHH HI SECRET SANTA

Sorry for answering late, I took a looong nap haha.

I’m not sure what you’re asking for on the first one, so I hope this is what you were looking for!

Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde are SOOOOO elucien coded. Nick being sly as hell (and a literal fox??) and teasing Judy and Judy being prim and proper yet matching him for every stroke!

I shared this video here some time ago, but this is literally Elucien!

Rapunzel and Flynn Rider are SOOOOOO elucien coded! I headcanon Elain as a healer, and Rapunzel can heal. people. with. her. HAIR??? And Flynn being this snarky, smooth talker who’s rendered completely awkward around Rapunzel??? Magnificent. Flynn showing Rapunzel the lanterns 🤝 Lucien showing Elain the tulips

Lastly, Finnick and Annie are so Elucien coded! Imagining Elucien in the Hunger Games, I imagine it would’ve gone something like that! Elain is more resourceful than people realize, so she could’ve won just like Annie, but it would hurt her. It robbed her of her light. She becomes close to the Elain at the beginning of ACOWAR. Meanwhile Lucien being so fucking hot that it’s literally pointed out by everyone but he’s in love with only one person. And Finnick and Lulu are both SA victims 😢

As for my favorite ships…

I recently got into Star Wars and when I tell you I have the biggest Anidala (Anakin and Padme) obsession 😩they’re actually happily married and living with their twin children your honor.

I love the Bridgerton TV show, but of course my favorite couple is Kanthony (Kate and Anthony)🥰. Ugh, their RAW chemistry on screen…you forget that Jonathan Bailey is actually gay😂

(also a bonus but Kanthony is regency Neris coded)

I loooooove Snowbaird! If I had a nickel for every time my blonde hair blue eyed blorbos fumbled a baddie and became a genocidal dictator, I’d have two nickels, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

My bio says Jurdan (Jude and Cardan), but Ima be real I’m not a huuuge fan of the ship because of how Cardan treats her in the beginning… I’m more just a Jude fan haha.

Elide and Lorcan from Throne of Glass has my whole heart! My favorite SJM couple that is confirmed endgame! Ruhn and Lidia from Crescent City is amazing too!

My first ever OTP was Percabeth (Percy and Annabeth) from Percy Jackson and they will always hold a special place in my heart even if they’re not my CURRENT obsession.

Maxon and America from The Selection is pretty great too!

And of course, I’m a P&P addict, so Elizabeth Bennet and Mr. Darcy has to be on here😍

A super niche one, but Queen Katharine and Pietyr Renard from the Three Dark Crowns series is so beautiful too!

[soldierandawar]

Got a whole new season, yet you are still talking about kanthony. Must be their biggest fan

Somebody just discovered discourse. Alert the news.

[petalsmooth]

When I talk about bitter Kanthony stans this is what I mean...

They do the same with Luke calling him both fat an anorexic, they can't make up their minds. This is why even though there are some decent stans, the fandom in general dislikes Kanthony stans. Because the most vocal are like this person.

And you can't even truly say it's over disappointment about their season, though that is it in part. Because while I didn't watch the show when it debuted I went back and old conversations and know what I found? Kanthony stans harassing Daphene/Simon fans talking about how much better their season would be and how Anthony is the true head of the household and they are the ones the family truly look to guidance for and basically the foundation of the entire family. They were pulling this before the season debuted and referenced the books. Which I hadn't read either. Well, I've since read a majority of them and you know which character was more prevalent in the books? Colin. NOT Anthony. Not saying super huge part because the books are mostly standalone's but he legit plays matchmaker for at least 2 couples and sits in a tree with Gregory to support him spying on his love interest. Anthony's biggest role is mainly with Eloise for a couple scenes. Maybe Daphne, I dunno since didn't read that one but the others not really.

They also harassed Queen Charlotte stans when came out.

Colin/Pen, Luke/Nicole have gotten it the worst but mainly because dared to follow their season and they are convinced the show's theme should have been changed to follow the lives of Kate and Anthony Bridgerton rather than other seasons getting their own book.

I have seen them call Nicole a racist and claim hates Simone while turning about and hating on the predominately African American driven show of Queen Charlotte. I've seen them hate on Daphne for the scene where she does force a result in bed with Simon, but ignore Anthony setting up Daphne to marry her would be rapist and dangling two sisters while also disposing of his mistress like trash. I've seen them mock Luke for occasional stutter and when told of dyslexia/adhd mock that. They call him ugly in seasons 1 and 2 (and yeah gained a few pounds after covid season 2 but most people did) and what they really mean is he was the only brother not stripping naked onscreen. When they call him boring, that is what they mean. Because it's not about the storyline, but soft core porn feel denied.

BTW, no idea if do some sort of montage with Colin overseas with women or not this season or just sort of infer it but that is why they love Benedict the most of the brothers btw. All the flings where hey...may be lacking a story narrative but he's butt is on display so all is good. I personally think the actor would have rathered more of a relevant sl but just me.

I have seen them say Nicole broke up Luke's prior relationship with an affair as well as say she slept with half the cast and production/casting to get attention on the show. Nevermind she was first cast because she plays THE Lady Whistledown character which the entire show revolves around, at least in the first several books.

I've seen them say Luke can't act when clearly that is untrue as his micro expressions are excellent if he is able to convey thought and feeling in brief clips/scenes and he is one of those actors that can act with their eyes which I love. I have a personal preference for actors who don't need to rely on excessive physical movements to act. He is one of them. Also received high reviews for his recent play. but when you aren't given a particularly heavy sl to act out there is only so much you can do, which is why really looking forward to this season.

And yes...the names they call Nicole because a little overweight. Hon, if anyone is living vicariously through the show it is not the people who enjoy Penelope because we liked prior diverse characters. It is the people who apparently only want one shape (perhaps because they are not thin themselves) and wish to imagine a world in which they were that shape in particular. Sure, people may identify with Pen/Nicola as most people aren't their ideal weight from a medical standpoint but if they liked Daphene and Kate (and most did) that fantasy is not what is driving them to watch. And if you are only driven to like characters based upon their appearance and not their worth as a character, well, then you are shallow and should just go watch porn where you can get that without the pesky inconvenience of character development.

Because I've NEVER been into shows where its about sex. This is why I rebelled against Riverdale. Sex depicted on screen is fine, not against it, but I don't want it for the sake of wanting it. I need to care about the characters and see development. This is why I FW Benedict's sex scenes after the first run through. They bore me. I'll watch Anthony with Siena because there were actual feelings there but I FW the bedside scene montage with him dripping coins after sex. So yeah I will watch Colin and Penelope but that is because it's 3 seasons of development so I'm invested. But if Benedict hooks up without another random woman, outside the first time, likely won't watch again. Alice and Will? I love them so if they have one I would watch. I'm on the fence about Violet and Marcus because not sure in what form the relationship develops. I had NO interest in Ledger and young Danbury. They keep saying it was love but the writing/acting didn't convince me anything but a lonely middle aged man in crisis who did not agree with his wife's prejudices reliving his youth by seeking out a newly widowed woman who had been groomed for an old ledger and not a lot of experience with men outside of that. I could certainly see how a connection might form between them, I just don't think the writing made that connection well.

At any rate, the people who have a problem with a sex scene with Nicola can shove their prejudices off a cliff. The people excited for their season aren't the ones with the issues. As for Luke, he was always the most traditionally handsome man of the brothers and if the only reason you couldn't see that is because wasn't naked half the time...also your problem. However, even if he weren't, I don't really care. Some of us watched shows with a variety of body shapes and or people not considered classically attractive in our life times and don't have an issue with it on screen because I've always been attracted more to personality first. For physical attributes, I tend to always notice their eyes first so I can't say I identify with the first. Next trait I notice is hair color. I like dark or brown hair for men but people can dye their hair so hardly a requirement. Personality? I like good humor. It can be good natured or sarcasm or whatever. Also like someone who is isn't generally deceptive. Doesn't mean have to be an extrovert, you can be served, but not into liars. Also like people who are generally principled. Maybe don't agree with them on everything, but changing your opinion based on tides of the moment...not into that. Which is actually why I like the sl for Colin.

He's generally been straightforward, good humored and principled but had one slip up with Penelope end of season driven to seek good opinions of people's who's opinions are not worth being sought. Paying the price for that and I think ultimately will further cement him as the principled brother he generally always was. Because no one is perfect but that that one slip up is understandable because still young and young people often feel pressure to blend in. But it is so against how he is in general AND HAS BEEN TO THAT POINT with Penelope that you see instant remorse and self loathing when she brings it up to him. It will also make courting her a bit more difficult so it's a nice lesson, it's a relatable lesson and a totally believable one for any time period. It's also one where you see him pay a price and redeem himself and ultimately grow as a character. I like that.

I like storyline where you don't absolve people of sins but flesh out the mistake and then evolve. I felt they missed the mark with Anthony in denying him that sl personally. I am hoping they don't deny it to Eloise.

RD would do that all the time with Archie and Betty and I HATED it and in return ended up hating their characters. You don't do well by your characters by brushing off penance and redemption. Those two things often make the character better.

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something funny that i've noticed is how some people decided that in their fanfic universe when picking and choosing what elements from the book and tv show they select they end up with kate being plain, insecure and untalented, while edwina still almost married anthony but ended up marrying a prince lmaooooooo. they're obviously free to write whatever they want and shouldn't get harassment for it (unhinged behavior just close the tab and move on), but i can't help and laugh at how obvious they are 🤭

Don’t let me start the convo about fics. As my biggest fans say, something that makes me the joke of the fandom is my behaviour towards fic writers, indeed I’ve been called a psycho for this particular topic. Yes I’ve called out many writers in this fandom but first of all I had my reasons second of all I didn’t do it on ao3. I’ve left comments asking for explanation but I always left my more unhinged comments on my twitter profile. I get that writers do it for free and we all should be grateful but the moment I see people using a certain tag, like Kanthony, publish a story that has nothing to do with them or sneak Anthony being with other women is when I have every right to call you out. Now the point of your asks is the way the treat Kate and Edwina. Lmao. I’ve been saying it for months that the treatment is very different and there is something rotten about it cause you know most of these authors want to project whatever shitty opinions they have on Simone and CC’s looks on the characters. It’s so obvious. Honestly for me the last straw was that EdwinaxSiena fic in which Edwina changes her mind on society beauty standards because, hold on tight, ANTHONY FELL IN LOVE WITH KATE DESPITE HER LOOKS. All this followed of course by a long description of Kate’s (Simone) angular jaw and her being tall, mind you the way it was written makes you think the author thinks of these traits as less feminine. The crazy thing was the reaction of half the fandom rushing to defend the “poor author” from evil critics like me. Don’t let me start on the Edwina fic writers who enjoy writing Kate as an abusive older sister who doesn’t let Edwina think for herself. There was a post canon fic in which Kate actually demands to know what Edwina does, thinks and eats during her days. This fic was being praised by famous Kanthony writers and “Kate fans” as the most accurate representation of Kate’s character. Yikes. Honestly the things to say about this are endless, and let me repeat I’ve left my most unhinged thoughts on this oh my profile, I didn’t even comment these fics on ao3 cause there would be no point. I don’t really care if people get angry at me cause I post my personal opinions on my personal twitter account. They can die mad. Sorry for the long answer I have a lot to say on this 😅

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I wanna go to poguelandia but I don’t wanna get sh0t in America or hate crimes in Brazil 😔😔😔 #OBX4 #obx why couldn’t they do one stop in EU or Africa so we can go too! Wanna meet lacia as jdrudy so bad !!

not jdlacie going to Brazil oh someone please save them the racism and anti blackness is gonna insane next level crazy even in US but Brazil or any LATAM countries x obx fandom is wild sickening any obx fans is bad they gonna be cooked alive I’m scared for them their safety even hope they have bodyguards 25/8!

kinda funny when people was jumping nic Luke forever for getting a world tour when Netflix always does this for their biggest shows like it was never a polin thing only thing but kanthony benophie fans so obsessed with nic luke they always made everything about them 😂 even QC Corey and India got it just less cities and nicluke weren’t even alone the rest of the cast got it too so why was they always acting like only nicluke got will never get it other then it being just pure jealousy!

btw this is their last season if that wasn’t clear they wouldn’t be doing all this now if it wasn’t last season or it’s like with Bridgertok where s5 is their last season I genuinely obx4 last szn otherwise it’s definitely ending on obx5 like bton5 being it’s last szn let’s prepare guys!

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Sorry to piggyback on an ask, but I just wanted to add something to your wonderful explanation of Why Ben/Kate doesn't affect people as much as Ant/Edwina. I think, for me personally, atleast, seeing this messy Ben/Kate/Anthony pairing is almost cathartic because of all the nonsense in the show with dragging the Anthony/Edwina thing until Episode 6 and all the way to a wedding. It's one of the biggest complain every Kanthony fan has had with the show, a lot of fans feel like Kate got the shortest end of the stick in the situation where there were no winners. So to see Kate be the center of a triangle where two brothers want her badly and she's the prize - so to speak, goes to right some of the things the show got wrong. Also, as much as I love Dorset, he's not as much of a gut punch to the situation as Ben would be which really does bring out high stakes and I love fics which are a bit messy, the fluffy stuff has its appeal for sure, but there's something to be said about fics where you root for the couple's HEA knowing they're not always right, it makes the HEA that much more rewarding when it all finally works out. All that to say, just want to mention that I'm a big fan of your work, thank you for your awesome stories and I hope you write more fics that have readers willing to write essays for them like I just did, lol

Thank you so much! I love to hear everyone's opinion. That makes total sense - I did like Sharp Edges being centered around Kate, and two men who care about her deeply, and her having that choice to make. Ultimately it came down to who understood her better and was the better match for her.

A few things I didn't say the first time:

Quite a lot of comments throughout the story were from people wondering whether there would be a happy ending and how everyone would get out of it. Hopefully I delivered on that at the end, but people certainly were nervous lol.

In Say My Name, Kate moves past the knowledge of Anthony being with Edwina by seeing Tom again and realizing that although they had a sexual encounter, she didn't feel anything for him - and understanding that Anthony and Edwina were the same. I don't think this is much different. Yes, she loved Ben, and yes, there is always that slightly awkward knowledge that they slept together. But with time, I think she could look at him and simply feel the love she has for a friend, with the rest feeling like a distant memory.

I think we tend to judge fictional characters to an unrealistic standard. We expect them to be omniscient because we are omniscient. We expect them to know what every other character feels because we do. But humans are messy and flawed and hurt each other and fight and make up. And sometimes I enjoy a fic that embraces that.