#they are equal in shithead-ness
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To ME, OdyPen truly are likeminded and equal in almost every way.
Both are basically "tied to one another". Both can be reckless and when one is being reckless, the other will "pull them back". Both keep each other in check most of the time. They balance one another when the other needs it.
They're also "tied to one another" in how they both will also run into a situation together and think the same thing. Whether it's something fucking stupid is for Athena to decide.
Basically this except OdyPen are holding hands and will occasionally pull the other back. When both are running into something stupid, Athena grabs them both by the scruff.
...Y'all get what I'm saying???
#none of that “Penelope has Odysseus on a leash” they are BOTH stupid sometimes and need the other to snap outta#odypen#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#I need to explain this for a neat af ask I just got >:3#they are equal in shithead-ness#penelope#penelope of ithaca#penelope odyssey#Idc anymore about “fucking up tags” I love Penelope. I'll fill up her tag myself#my headcanons#both are chaotic and stupid and smart and competent. You either get it or you don't#epic the musical#odyssey
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this is like maybe a little specific and really just me rambling
but FIRST of all im obsessed with your portrayal of kiba. he's like always been my fav but his content is so limited so its been away since my imagination flew but phew these last few days reading your blog has been a journey.
but back to the ramble ive been thinking a lot of the brother's bsf trope for him. at first i was riding naru bc bros but then i thought about sasu and the whole prideful uchiha vibe. even in the modern version, then just being like these corporate giants alongside the hyugas and the other ‘noble’ clans. and like maybe kiba isn’t really bsfs with sasu but like the whole ‘genin’ growing up around each other thing. probably all just went through the same school system.
ANYWAY rambles
i imagine like the uchiha ‘princess’, the only daughter and youngest sibling to sasu and ita. and like she’s just really grown up with that whole corpo royalty vibe, getting everything she wants, always supervised low key suppressed LIKE NOTHING NEW HERE low-key maybe even loosely in talks of being engaged to one of the ally corps like hyugas or something the point is its SCREAMING corruption for kiba. like the forbidden fruit. subtle classism, like kiba’s family isn’t what the uchihas would envision for her but like I just imagine her sneaking out with her brother to a uni party or something (like maybe sasu got to go to a public uni and she got the private treatment) and just like bumping into kiba in all his alpha buff man-ness and just like that first spark of lust just like overwhelms her like doesn’t even know whats going on but OH BOY KIbA does and he’s just like ‘yeah I got what you need bbygirl’ and yeah. Asdfsjhkgrhgo I have a lot of thoughts sorry for all the words 🐣
i don’t see kiba and sasuke being friends because kiba is too big of a hater, BUT i think that would even add more to the appeal because, like… he can act like a real proper shithead towards the people he doesn’t particularly like, so scoring sasuke’s little sister? yeah, he’d definitely try it just to get a sense of some kind of victory from it.
and i think it’d be the initial motive at first — the whole ‘haha, i fucked your sister, whatcha gonna do ‘bout it?’ — but then one thing leads to another and suddenly he’s caught… feelings. feelings that he doesn’t really know how to comprehend yet, and it’s weird because you’re like his exact opposite; so fancy and with your nose upturned whenever he winds up in your presence, pushing your whole princess agenda forward. and he knows that he should find it annoying because you’re acting just like your equally as annoying brother, but instead he’s catching himself thinking about you more and more and he’s almost finding it entertaining. pestering you is almost fun to him.
i think he’d wonder what you’d look like without the make up and the pretty skirt. what you’d look like with messy hair instead of it being in that almosy eerie state where each strand is sitting perfectly in place. he wants to see actual sweat coating your face instead of that matt powder he’s seen you reapply once or twice before because you hate the shine on your forehead. he wants to fuck you nasty and ruin that idea of you being a perfect girl in every single situation just so that he can see what you’re really like underneath.
besides that, i also imagine him initially pursuing you because he hates, hates, hates the whole idea behind noble clans, as well as the set of strict, mostly unfair rules that they’ve got going on, because of what they did to hinata. so if you’re his ticket to fuck with them a little bit, hey, why not?
you would find him appealing because he just simply does not give a shit what anybody thinks. he might get pissed off if someone insults him, sure, but he still ends up doing whatever it is that he wants in that moment and he doesn’t apologize for it. plus, his clan is more like one big family instead of a picture on the wall where everyone is smiling their most perfect grin despite the fact that their eyes still end up looking cold.
he’s warm, you know? carefree and dumb and not uptight at all. he finds joy in the little things and instead of spending money on fancy dinners, he buys things cheap because he’s saving up for a roadtrip that he’s planning to go on this summer with his shitty truck. he doesn’t mind getting his hands dirty and he loves his dog more than most people.
…and he’s also the first man who actually looks you in the eyes and tells you you’re full of shit when you start acting bratty and deserve to be called out for it. he treats you like a person instead of delicate glass.
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just wanted to make a quick (and friendly! ♡) note to my mutuals writing crime-faring unlawful muses:
1) i love you (´。• ᵕ •。`) ♡
2) i'm not here to "use" you and your muse as a means of giving ryuu some sort of character development in an "oh, my sweet baby boo has never done anything wrong in his life ever and i want to write with bastards who he can just PROVE his amazing innocence and uwu-ness in comparison so pls be awful so my boy shines ♡( ◡‿◡ )" way
good lord no i'm not here for that and while i don't suspect any of you thought that, i still want to be crystal clear:
i will not use and never will be using any of my mutuals and their muses as a "plot device" for mine
trust me, i adore morally corrupt muses. heck, i write a mob boss on another blog; i get it (and i'm honestly more accustomed to writing shitheads so ryuu's just a nice break from that mentality tbqh)
i'm here to explore both of our muses equally
i'm here to love and appreciate your muse even if they butt heads with mine
basically, if we're mutuals, you can trust that i think you're spectacular and i'm so thrilled to have you on my dash, and even more honored when i get the opportunity to write with any of you (⺣◡⺣)♡* that is all
#« ooc »#not sure what brought this up; i was just doing meal prep and these thoughts crept in#bc i know ryuu is generally a good person and morally decent#and i never want anyone to feel like i'm ... idk ... holding that over their head ??#prolly stupid concerns but it doesn't hurt to be communicative so here we are!!#plus let's not forget that ryuu brought down an entire government conspiracy#that involved a lot of officials and people who are SUPPOSED to be “good”#and supposed to look out for the well-being of the community AND YET#cORRUPTION BE UPON YE !!!#so tRUST ME he KNOWS the world isn't black n white#and while he ofc isn't going to be like “aw you maim ppl for fun??? that's dope”#he also isn't here to just instantly dunk on your criminals bc lbr#sOMETHING led them to that lifestyle :|c and boyyyy ryuu occasionally finds a way of UNDERSTANDING#even if he doesn't AGREE#aNYWAY THO happy sunday and i'm sending so much love at everyone!!
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all this because you committed the apparent crime of, checks notes, saying that you like that a character is an asshole.... smh. My condolences about ppl's total inability to just be normal on this website. the idea that you can only like a character if theyre a Good Person and thus we must deny the fact that sometimes our faves are shitheads is sooooooo dumb.
i knowwwww it's so stupid!! i'm not particularly surprised considering the vast majority of fandom spaces on here have never heard of nuance to begin with but i do think it's ridiculous that people apparently can't reconcile acknowledging a character's less than stellar actions with still liking them as if fiction doesn't necessitate some amount of drama & conflict to be interesting and, by definition, so do well-constructed characters -- of which ollie is one when written correctly. no one has to pretend he's the best person or father to have ever lived, the fact that he isn't and fights to do what's right regardless is what makes it all so great! it's exactly the same reason i love alan scott so much, who isn't remotely a good person but a very compelling character
as for the chuck dixon situation that keeps being brought up, i simply believe his work on green arrow is actually legitimately good and that it's impossible to claim you like connor hawke in the nineties -- objectively his best & most compelling era, especially as he wasn't whitewashed as he has been for his whole post-dixon existence up until the literal present day -- without admitting that you like dixon, who's the only person to have ever written him in that era. sometimes bad writers do something right, it's not that hard to believe when he's got genuine love for the characters and the found family arc between connor & eddie (plus the character development he's given the latter) is like nothing i've ever seen
the weirdest opinions keep getting thrown around by people who wish ollie had gotten the arc eddie did, as if they're not both equally compelling in different directions and ways that don't require blindly following the common sentiment of idealizing ollie to the nth degree. all i'm asking is for actual literal canon to be accepted as it is and for so-called ollie stans to understand that a couple panels of hugs do not a good father make!
in all seriousness, thank youuuu so much for reaching out & getting it and i hope you excuse the essay -- i can debate about fictional characters until the end of time but i'm still confused & frankly a little worried about certain claims from batphobique's post/tags about meeting up to "call them a slur to their face" as if that didn't come literally out of nowhere and isn't a genuinely harmful thing to claim because they're annoyed i think ollie's asshole-ness is what makes interesting
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many highlights from The Stolen Century from a first-time TAZ listener (here there be spoilers)
oh hot damn a flashbacks episode!!!!!
“everything begins, and i mean that quite literally, with the light of creation”
the IPRE has some real nostalgic space exploration nasa vibes to it
travis: “i would like to state that, canonically, magnus calls him “cap’nport” because magnus, like I, loves portmanteau”
suggested names for the ship boat thing: boaty mcboatface, spinnaker (which just means boat), stinky spinnaker, laser spinnaker, hyper spinnaker, flying boat, tail spinnaker, fighting spinnaker, lightbringer, sky spinnaker, sky boat, sky weaver, star dancer, starblaster! the winner! starblaster!
the way they arrived at “starblaster” was such peak mcelroy Creative Nonsense
the reporters at this IPRE press conference have had increasingly silly names
justin: “taako and lup go to a bar and do what they always do at a bar, which is hustle people at pool” i love them so much! i didn’t love taako all that much for the majority of this story but now i think he’s cool as shit
I’m so SO SO SO SO SO EXCITED for lup to be a part of this and be a real character and not just a fucking GHOST haunting taako’s umbrella
magnus wants to go train with the bear of power and that’s the most on-brand thing for him to possibly want to do
travis: “magnus doesn’t kill animals if he can help it” not animals, but of course he has no problem killing dwarves, elves, liches, wizards, ya know, all those PEOPLE he’s killed
justin: “taako and lup are gonzo, they're out of here" magnus: “i’m like checking on bear cubs and making sure everyone's okay" merle: “im like increasing everybody’s speed with spells’ very on brand of everybody here
travis: “okay griffin i have a very important question that i should have asked before-” griffin: “is about your fucking hard candy supply?”
the entire set up of this arc is so fun and good
justin: “yeah i've got a fucking genius plan and I'm gonna fix everything! come close, griffin, because I'm about to blow your game wide open. I’m going to make a fake light of creation. I’m gonna spend this year like a survivor contestant on their last legs, crafting a false hidden immunity idol. I’m going to craft, to the best of my ability, a fake light of creation. a decoy, if you will!” THIS IS GENIUS
taako: “okay, that’s all well and good but lup and i are going scrapping. this is the most civilized- this is the most technologically advanced place that we’ve been to yet, and I wanna load the ship up with all the valuable mechanical components I can find, so I’m going fucking looting, I’m gonna destroy as many robots as it takes, I’m gonna take these motherfuckers apart piecemeal, so I can take whatever cool magic is powering them. I’m going to loot this motherfucker to brass tacks, I’m gonna just loot and pillage” merle: “burnt earth” taako: “yes exactly”
lup: “i believe one of these times we’re going to get this right. and we’re going to find a way to defeat the hunger and save everybody inside of it. I have to believe that to keep doing what we do, becasue I have to believe that I’m going to get those 15 dollars back from greg fucking grimmaldis” lup is as cool and funny and DOPE as I was hoping she would be
one of these eps, they just kicked it on a beach for 35 minutes and were shitheads about merle’s attempt at gifts. the literal goddamn definition of a bottle episode. im only like 75% sure davenport was even in this fucking episode
travis has named magnus’s fish, magnus’s father-in-law, a rando reporter at the IPRE press conference, and a kid at one of the stolen century planets “steven”. all of those people/fish are called steven, because apparently travis has a thing for that name
clint just called lucretia “lucinda”
well now i understand why merle’s died 50 million times
taako: “i got bad news for everybody. our arch-nemesis is MORRISSEY”
magnus gets excited to learn to carve wood bc its something he could do with knives and weapons and shit and im like oh THATS the most magnus thing he could possibly do!!!
hey cool so barry and lup’s adorable love OWNS MY ASS
that was the sweetest falling-in-love story ive ever heard and it was like 5 fucking minutes. @ fanfiction writers throw all your barry/lup friends-to-lovers fics directly at my head PLEASE
davenport: “lup can you blow it up?" lup: "can i...blow up a mountain?....well, YEAH! but lets save that for a last resort" the legato conservatory person: “i'm going to firmly request that you don’t blow up our sacred mountain”
taako: “hey I’m taako, from TV” griffin: “uh okay-” justin: “what?” griffin: “you haven’t been on tv yet” clint: “it’s aspirational” justin: “yeah, its aspirational. hey I’m taako from TV. you’re all pretty wanged. you’re pretty fucked. there’s good news and bad news, and the bad news I’ve already covered, with the fucked-ness that you are”
jesus, shit got DARK
oh my god the voidfish that magnus saved in the stolen century is the same one on the bureau of balance base. that’s some heart-tingly shit. that’s that GOOD STORY SHIT
griffin: “your adventures in the back half of these cycles are more fraught than the first half” OH IM SORRY? MORE FRAUGHT??? REALLY, GRIFFY?
griffin’s judge character dude: "magnus, you have fought with others your entire life, throughout your adolescence you celebrated strife. i didn't mean to make that rhyme"
one of the future crimes accused of the IPRE crew is “cruelty to a child who loves them” and im like oh. maybe i shouldnt have wanted somebody to call them out on being mean to sweet ango
oh man i wanna hug lucretia so bad and take care of her and make sure she’s okay
griffin: “she wouldn’t go on to found the bureau of balance for decades, but this horrible lonely year, that’s when she became Madame Director” okay, yep, i love her, and i just remembered i was worried for SO LONG that she was hoarding the relics for her own gain and jesus christ IM SO SORRY I THOUGHT THAT, EVERYBODY, I REGRET IT SO BAD
magnus reading fisher the voidfish a story more like GREAT JOY AND HAPPINESS
justin: “taako like walks by [the voidfish] and you just hear him shout ‘give him the complete works of nathaniel hawthorne next!” griffin: “YOU FUCKING HATE THAT GUY!” justin: “fuck that guy” clint: “what do you have against nathaniel hawthorne???” justin: “he is the worst writer and everybody has to read him and it makes kids HATE reading” clint: “last of the mohicans???” justin: “thats- not him, thats james fenimore cooper” griffin: “BOO-YAH!!! [singing] take him toooo schoool” justin: “yall i know the name of TWO authors from that time period, and he did the ONE pull, that’s gonna sound so fucking smart” oh man maybe I really need to reevaluate my ranking of Favorite Mcelroys, justin just reached for the Deepest Cut To Make Me Love Him
magnus: “i don’t find anything useful in this library, so let that be a lesson, kids, you’ll never find anything useful reading books” yeah take that, you punk ass book jockeys
griffin: “I base it on just how much i like the scene, right? so take plus two bond” whoa what GRIFFY DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A SYSTEM FOR THIS SHIT?? HE’S JUST HANDING OUT BONDS AND ASSETS WILLY NILLY????
magnus: “oh, could i have been learning magic instead of feeding books to my buddy?” griffin: “your scene was really good though” magnus: “oh man i could have become a wizard” yeah and break the continuity of THE ENTIRE GODDAMN SHOW
this Lup and Taako’s Greatest Day chaotic destruction is the most fun shit that’s happened in this show
taako: “I pull off her blindfold to reveal this planet’s ONLY DMV. there’s one DMV on the entire planet” this planet has no people and no animals and no living anything besides the 7 ipre crew and yet there’s a DMV leftover from whatever civilization used to be here. UH UH UH SURE JUSTIN
jesus christ i can’t believe lup’s lich form dabbed in the goddamn middle of this ritual
travis: “griffin, i know this wasn't in the instructions you sent us, but I want to make a lightsaber, can I do that?" griffin: "absolutely not!"
the KrebStar is a dope name
griffin: "so like a lotta bear stuff, then, huh?" travis: "look im leaning into it"
travis: “I’m going to name the helmet BearFace- ya know, naming stuff isn’t magnus’s strong suit- and I’m going to call the pendant 2th Necklace”
griffin: “and she’s holding an umbrella” justin: “fuck you” THIS MOMENT IS SOOO GOOD
justin: "I think i speak for the rest of us, and like the entire audience, when i say I cannot wait to see what these fucking 7 items are"
“that was the last conversation you had with your sister” hey griffin. fuck you
“not all exits are equal” HEY GRIFFIN. REALLY REALLY FUCK YOU
oh man lucretia. i can’t believe you did that to everybody. man that’s. that’s rough
this is heartbreaking holy shit. barry begging his bestfriend TO KILL HIM so he won’t forget the love of his life is SOME GUTWRENCHING SHIT HOLY SHIT
this is a really amazing story and I’m so impressed with the way it evolved from a goofy mcelroy joke podcast into such an amazing compelling story
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