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kosmicdream · 7 years ago

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Flight or Fight Drawing mode

for me, i think there’s always this restless feeling that comes when working on comics. That feeling that time is running out or not being utilized to its fullest degree. You are aware of how much more there is to go in your story and can calculate the progression of your journey, but only the present. As you keep going on your story, the circumstances change, and it is always this fluid process you cannot fully accommodate and plan for.

I know in the few years since I started drawing FFAK my expectation for myself and my work has changed tremendously. Its something i reflect on a lot, since i forget how not too long ago, I felt like i was somewhat incapable of producing a comic because of the way i enjoy to write and explore stories. I still think fundamentally, FFAK reflects that raw unedited version of my writing and creative skills in a unique way that I doubt will be replicated again (in the same manner) even as i explore and work on other stories. FFAK just carries this certain kind of momentum of forwards and backwards both at once. You stretch all over the place and peek through small doors to go in strange places. Growth is difficult to gauge because of the way time is handled in the story. Goal points seem endless and bleed together from my perspective. There’s always so much more to go and so much planned that when you make accomplishments they feel sort of like a bunch of tiny small steps in many different directions. And honestly, No one is more impatient than i when it comes to waiting to share this story than me. I am always biting my nails and wanting to get it out faster SOMEHOW even though I work on it constantly as it is. FFAK is no longer just.. a random comic idea i started on a whim that I felt i would only dip my toes in and never actually attempt making. and now it really has consumed my mind like a wildfire. it is also my fireplace and my home in my heart and my peace. I don’t even think I could ever fully be prepared for and handle such a thing but I am glad to have it in my life. But as the haze.. shock? of starting this project starts to fade i find myself fully committed and trying to evaluate the steps and process i take for this comic as a whole. I think its interesting how 2ish years of planning basically gives me enough time to know what sort of story I’m doing. But I am in no eager rush to finish it because my excitement for it only grows and feels more satisfying the more i write and plan. Part of me gets upset I don’t blast pages out the “same” way anymore, even though i appreciate the exploration of ‘putting more effort’ into my drawings. Instead of drawing thru 20 pages a night I’m polishing like, 2.. or 4 a work night. Its kind of annoying!! because I’m not really one for polish and editing (or maybe I just never believed myself capable of doing it in a way i liked? lol) but.. it just feels like the right thing to do right now. it feels almost impossible to ‘rewind’ myself or go back to like, thinking things in a different way than what i try to do now. by attempting more things visually it kind of makes some things easier too. im often pretty surprised like “hey alright that came out ok. i guess i can push myself a little bit more next time to make it look better!!” I think about my early eggshells pages a lot and how i labored over like.. 15 pages over an entire year and felt miserable and in the end, often over rendered + lost clarity and energy and now i just get what i was doing ‘wrong’ to make it not fun for myself. Like, even when i was offered advice at the time I wasnt so welcome to it nor did i understand it, its like I had to suffer a bit before I was able to understand what I needed to do with myself lol. The lesson feels much more impactful after discovering it for myself too on my own pace imo. SO i am thankful for how that turned out! Then i broke down my art to its most base level (earliest ffak pages) and i’ve just been rebuilding myself back up since then and now I’m attempting things I didn’t even think I’d be able to do -- or be interested in. (like color, for example, has never been something I was too interested including with my comics but like.. blammo here i am doing it anyway now.) anyway. its really cool, this art journey thing. i kinda wonder how long ill coast on this certain part of it before i like, end up doing an unexpected detour again. Maybe I won’t..? i dont know!! FFAK is so raw and alive it makes me happy i get to make it and do whatever i want in it. I always wanted to make a comic that I could contribute to on a day to day basis rather than something you just make so you can get it done asap and move onto the next thing. When ffak does eventually finish I wonder if it will be really hard on me. I look forward to its ending because its really neat but it is not a world I want to let go of so quickly. Even tho i have several other stories I’d like to do.. (and have started a couple already LMAO) I think about that expectation with ending stories a lot and completing projects. Most of my very favorite comics have yet to end despite going on for decades.. and when i think about that too, it almost feels very strange. Readers generally want closure to reflect on their experiences reading something so endings are that important ‘release’ from that fake world and time you participated in it. But when i ask myself what I want to do for endings to my story, i try to contemplate my favorite endings to stories ive read/watched/experienced to figure out what i want to do with my own. Since.. its my story and my satisfaction with it is really going to be reflective of what I like. Everyone interpretes ‘good’ endings differently and like, clings into diff parts of what makes a satisfying story so its important to isolate what elements you find are important to try to replicate that in your own work. But like.. its hard to see what kind of ending you’re going to make before you make it???? And making the story is a difficult thing to let go of vrs just being funneled all the stuff. Maybe my ‘ffak reader’ half of me will be satisfied but will my ‘ffak creator’ side be happy? Will i feel fufilled on both parts? I mean an experience is going to just be an experience.. i cannot manufacture or control it to be anything than what it will be so to think about it too much is probably only going to go in circles. It certainly has changed me a lot as a person and an artist. WHich is disorienting b/c im also introducing my work to everyone while not also knowing myself completely. (not that is ever fully achievable but, its been something i get forced to confront a lot.) When I work on this project I fight so many demons of my own life, chase ghosts of my heros that i feel are so beyond my ability, and stare down the illusion of my own reflection of what kind of artist i want to be every time i draw a new page.. I’m never going to really be that reflection, and my heros will always be my heros and they’ll always do things I cannot, but I wonder what kind of creator I look like from the outside?? from a person who isnt me. I cannot experience myself as a ‘reader’ but I try to pretend I am seeing myself as one. And the most exciting thing about myself, from that outside perspective, is that I am not sure what I will attempt next or what strange journey i will write about. I am happy that despite every difficult thing I have been through, I am still excited and having fun with my art like I have only just first attempted to draw. Soon FFAK will be three years old and (likely) 4000 pages by then.. I still havent gotten to write and draw out things I planned the very first day, but now I know roughly how the story will end (without actually getting to draw it yet, of course.) And i’m just anticipating the future while knowing that...i have no idea what it will bring!!! O_O (one thing is for certain i hope to fuck my house doesnt burn down again because, istg, that fucking SUCKED!!!!!!!!) Wooh.. well. i just felt like sharing some thoughts since i just got done re-reading some of ffak and feel a bit overwhelmed with emotion.. Thank you all for sticking around and experiencing this comic with me..! :’3 -kosmic

#personal #just some ART THOUGHTS #of ART THINGS #ffak misc #art stuff

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comicteaparty · 6 years ago

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January 24th, 2019 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on January 24th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on Pike’s Reach by Mabs.

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RebelVampire

COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!

Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Pike’s Reach by Mabs~! (https://tapas.io/series/pikesreach)

Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Superjustinbros

Hello!!

RebelVampire

hey super~!

my favorite scene is probably the fight with ezo and nefayn. largely because of https://tapas.io/episode/1179545 this page. i really just like the first few panels illustration wise cause even though theyre simplistic, i kind of feel like they convey this ominous sense of defeaning silence that is appropriate for conveying tension right after something climatic happens

Superjustinbros

https://tapas.io/episode/1234181

RebelVampire

yes there is also that scene. XD which was some good comic relief considering the comic was being very dramatic at the time.

also a good lesson about making sure someone gives permission

instead of just knocking and opening the door

Superjustinbros

yes

Because naked people

RebelVampire

another comical scene i enjoyed was the where they were showing off their drawings of pella's uncle. https://tapas.io/episode/962506 because man are those some not great drawings. especially that left one scares me

Superjustinbros

Oh my god

RebelVampire

another moment i liked, which isnt a scene but more a scene transition you could say, is when the comic switches from adelaide goofing around and then suddenly the warning bell rings.

https://tapas.io/episode/604008

in particular that page

i really love the shots and especially the ominous overtone the first panel has

cause it really helps visually convey the serious has come

Superjustinbros

I love the art style and general color scheme, lots of pinks and purples

mathtans

Made it, though I may not be mentally all here, today's been crazy.

Superjustinbros

hey Math

mathtans

One of my faves was actually to start Chapter 3, when we looked at the "villains" and the main guy was talking about how he didn't want them dead, more turned to his side. I liked the humanizing aspect of the antagonists.

Superjustinbros

Same

mathtans

Too often we just see things kind of one sided. This didn't go that way.

Superjustinbros

Villains that do more than just want the main character(s) dead are always good

mathtans

As far as comedy goes, I liked the brief scene where Adelaide "winked"... maybe... because she could have been blinking and her hair was in the way.

Though I also liked the "cold feet" bit where Nefayn was laughing and Nassar didn't know. In particular it was sort of called back later when he was thrilled that she liked his jokes.

RebelVampire

yeah i really enjoyed that moment with the antagonists. also partially cause i like it being explained why they dont just crush the army cause adelaide is already being silly meeting them on an open field and not using the fort's defenses as was intended

mathtans

Little one's fussing.(edited)

Superjustinbros

Rebel gets it

RebelVampire

but yeah i liked this humanizing affect too of course. because conflicts of territory are rarely straight forward evil guy wants to rule over all the things

Superjustinbros

RebelVampire

that and selfishly i really wanted to like pella and that scene proved to me that it was okay to like him cause hes just a goofy sparkly dude just trying to unite the lands.

Superjustinbros

heehee~

Mabs

Hi there! I'm Mabs and the creator of Pike's Reach! I can't stay for too long because sudden school stuff came up, but I wanted to say THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH for reading PR! Your comments are making me really happy ;w;

Superjustinbros

Hi!!!

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Unfortunately for Nefayn, she is cursed twice over both in body and magic. Who do you think cursed her with the first seal and for what reason? Could the culprit be Ezo considering she and Pella seemed to know Nefayn? Why was said culprit pursuing her? In other words, what are their long-term goals in using her? How powerful do you think Nefayn was before the first seal came to be? Now that Nefayn is sealed twice over to be all but human, how will this affect her helpfulness in a battle? Do you believe that Nefayn will be able to undo the seals eventually and return herself to her original form and power? If so, how might this affect her growing relationship with Adelaide?

glad you could stop by, mabs~!

im torn on the culprit issue. on the one hand ezo seems likely cause from her characterization that seems like something shed do. but on the other hand their army is kind of near the end of their campaign since pike's reach is the last one standing and they dont want to murder hobo them. so idk why theyd need nefayn. i kind of like to think theres something bigger gonna show up and pella and adelaide are gonna join forces to defeat it. and that whatever the it is is what's after nefayn. but that could be wishful thinking cause i always cheer for antagonist protagonist team ups when both are basically good dudes with different goals

mathtans

(I swear, my life after 8pm is running back and forth to my little daughter's room.)

RebelVampire

as for goals, maybe using her as a magic conduit. cause thats the only thing i can think of.

mathtans

I get what you were saying about the climactic magic fight scene earlier btw. Just I've never been huge on drama, you know me. ^.^

Superjustinbros

perhaps

also lol math

mathtans

Oh, hi Mabs! I ship everyone!

Superjustinbros

lol

Mabs

Hi there! Yes good, please ship all the characters.

Superjustinbros

Will do~

especially this page https://tapas.io/episode/1221349

mathtans

I wonder if Nefayn was originally that uncle that the General was talking about. Except that would destroy the best ship, so I'm not sure I like that possiblity.

RebelVampire

if were shipping all the ships i now accept https://tapas.io/episode/1077847 this page as canon

mathtans

Yeah, I don't know that it's Ezo. There was also that scene where Nefayn said she thought the big Pike's room seemed familiar, so I feel like she was a citizen of the place somehow.

A teamup would be pretty cool between the two groups. Maybe the West has been getting more organized than they realize, there was some mention of the latest attack being more of a ruse.

Hah. That was a funny one.

Part of me actually ships Ezo and Nefayn, in that sort of 'mortal enemies become friends' kind of deal. So I guess Adelaide ends up with the General's second in command? This was probably heresy to propose.

RebelVampire

idk. shooting someone in the chest seems like a romance deal breaker there XD

Superjustinbros

all ships set sail here

mathtans

It was an arrow of love and respect. Deep down. After all, it didn't kill her.

RebelVampire

but yeah the west could certainly become a threat. or even just one person in the west. like maybe one nation got themselves some guns and are bringing their guns to all the sword fights

mathtans

("It was worse than death, I was made human.")

RebelVampire

LOL

mathtans

As long as they don't bring the gunpowder, it's fine.

RebelVampire

Ezo wanted to make Nefayn human cause she too supports the adelaide/nefayn ship

it was the plan all along

mathtans

Actually, it's not a bad plan. Good way to make the enemy commander very distracted.

RebelVampire

and tbf it does probably take nefayn out of the battle a bit. cause being human has its mortal perils.

mathtans

Here's a possibly related question, who keeps sending the evil things to attack Adelaide? Which makes her sleep with a sword? I don't think it's the general, he seems honourable enough to keep his distance after losing, at least for a while. Maybe it's the same person who did the thing to Nefayn.

Flying is more of a problem for humans.

RebelVampire

i just assumed the magic things showed up of their own accord.

although

pella and ezo dont seem to be plagued by birds

so maybe someone is sending them

or adelaide is special and theyre super attracted to her

mathtans

Right.

Everyone's super attracted to the heroine.

RebelVampire

this is an interesting line of thought

cause i definitey doubt it's pella

cause the impression i got is that this has plagued adelaide for much longer than pike's reach has been under siege

since the sword thing is usually the sign of a long term habit

mathtans

I wonder if maybe the charm that was mentioned as something to keep her safe is actually attracting all the problems. Though it'd need to be something fairies can't pick up on.

Superjustinbros

@mathtans must be one really sexy heroine

RebelVampire

these are some good catches math. i really didnt pay much mind to any of these mentions. that could be though. and tbf nefayn's powers were already partly sealed from the get go so i wouldnt be surprised if shes missing out on some magic things

mathtans

Thanks. ^^ I guess it just struck me as interesting that she's got the sleep issues, and no one else seemed to.

I was wondering if one of Nefayn's powers was to grow big.

RebelVampire

maybe. although i keep thinking its gonna wind up shes a goddess or something O_O

not a fairy sized goddess mind you cause she does mention that fairy form is not her original size

although to the stuff b4 that brings up an interesting point about how much can the magic world interact with the non-magic. cause obviously adelaide being able to see magic and stuff makes her able to interact with it. but how aware does a non magic person have to be before magic stuff can affect them

mathtans

Goddess of sparkles.

RebelVampire

like obviously the others cant see nefayn

but can nefayn like punch them

and theyll be like "oww what a random pain"

mathtans

Well, since magic mines could influence people, I imagine if you make the effect large enough, it'd register.

What if Nefayn caresses?

(I mean, kinda moot now, but still.)

RebelVampire

yeah the magic mines worked. cause if the magic can affect the non magic regardless of their ability to see it, it adds evidence to the idea those birds are super out to get adelaide specifically

QUESTION 3. Magic seems to be at the center of several other mysteries that are presented in the comic. What is Pike’s Reach’s past with magic regarding the mention of a catastrophe involving it? Is Pella onto something about everyone being Adelaide’s age? What might this have to do with the previous lord of Pike’s Reach and Adelaide becoming its lord? How might any of this relate to the fact that Nefayn appears to recall being at Pike’s Reach for a brief moment? There is also the issue of Pella’s missing uncle. What do you think happened to his uncle? How might Pella’s uncle be related to past or present events that occurred in Pike’s Reach? Lastly, will Pella ever discover the truth about his uncle?(edited)

Superjustinbros

That's a cool skill imo

mathtans

Oh yeah, my memory had kind of glossed over that whole catastrophe thing. And the age thing too. Hm, really good points. Maybe they don't physically age in Pike's? Like, they're actually 60, but have the bodies of people much younger?

Again, suspected the uncle might be Nefayn, but that sinks the ship.

Superjustinbros

lol

RebelVampire

if the uncle isnt adelaide's father i will be so surprised

mathtans

Oh! Maybe the uncle is the one who cursed Nefayn.

I wondered about that. If the seeing magic lineage was a direct ancestry. But it might make sense for the uncle to be the one attacking Adelaide too.

RebelVampire

https://tapas.io/episode/970094

like legit look at that family resemblence

https://tapas.io/episode/822837 and pella and adelaide have the same eye color too

and theres no reason it cant be both

adelaide's father and the real antagonist

mathtans

Valid arguments. Maybe it's a red herring though. (Or a red pike! Hah!)

RebelVampire

id even peg him for the causer of this supposed catastrophe. not on purpose. but he vanished and hes after nefayn to try and fix his mistakes.

mathtans

Or maybe he's dead, and he left behind the ultimate weapon to use in case of dire magic circumstances, down in the catacombs.

Or maybe he's undead. He's a necromancer.

Superjustinbros

Could be that now that you mention it

mathtans

As Nassar would say, a very grave matter.

RebelVampire

the charm is the key and thats why the birds are after adelaide. they want that ultimate weapon

birds love ultimate weapons

alternatively he couldve been the one to stop the catastrophe from becoming worse too

mathtans

Adelaide's love is the ultimate weapon.

RebelVampire

cause the fact the catastrophe only took out the elderly or so is implied makes that a very targetted attack. and him being the savior makes sense for why everyone made adelaide the lord.

mathtans

Ah, right, I guess I was still on the "elderly look young" track not the "elderly died" track.

Maybe they were all turned into fairies instead.

Maybe the uncle was turned into a pike.

RebelVampire

or everyone was

theyre all pikes

in the nearby lake

the place was previously called nefayn's love nest, but they renamed it to pike's reach cause theyre always trying to reach those pike

mathtans

spit-take

Lovely vacation spot it is either way.

Mabs

You all are absolutely hilarious and I have really been enjoying reading this. Thank you so much for reading so thoroughly gosh. I have to go to a school thing but I'll be sure to check back later and read the logs! Thanks again

RebelVampire

np and good luck with school~!

Superjustinbros

Cya, Mabs!

And good luck from me as well~

mathtans

Thank you for the creation! Hope school goes well.

Mabs

Thanks again! Bye all~ Good luck with the rest of your discussion

Superjustinbros

Bye!

RebelVampire

ya know, since nefayn doesnt quite remember pike's reach outside of haziness, i wonder if theres some magical third seal that was meant to hide her own memories. a third seal set up by certain uncles.

mathtans

Speaking of school, if there's no older adults, who runs public institutions?

Maybe she set the third seal herself. Nefayn was the cause of the magical catastrophe, doesn't want to remember it.

Everyone fighting about the love nest.

RebelVampire

idk. hard to say without an exact timeline. also without exact knowledge of their system of governance. like for example, education could just be an at home by parents thing. so no actual public institution for it. but i also dont know the cut off date. and maybe no all the old ppl are dead. more its just heavily skewed to one age group

mathtans

"We're in favour of same sex marriage." "Oh, well, we're leaving then." "You realize the founder of this place was gay?" "We're definitely leaving."

I liked Nassar's story, incidentally.

Some good zingers too. "Reel", heh.

RebelVampire

i really hope we get to see more of adelaide's group. cause i feel there isnt enough nassar yet. we need more puns

mathtans

Yis. Looked like we were getting some focus on Berlin towards the end.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. Despite the romance and good feels in Pike’s Reach, they are the last fortress standing against the Eastern hordes. Do you believe Pella is genuine about his desire to unite the east to make the country a better place? Why do you think Pike’s Reach is so ardent about not uniting with the rest of the eastern lands? As time drags on, do you think Pella will give into his advisors and stop going so soft on Pike’s Reach? Will Ezo being injured drive them to it potentially? Alternatively, do you think Pike’s Reach and the Eastern hordes might join forces and put their differences aside for some reason? All in all, who do you think will emerge victorious?

mathtans

Ezo's injury could do that (escalate things), since Pella seems to have that thing for her. Honestly, I don't quite see why he's so keen on the uniting to this extent... is it all ego? I mean, why not just be glad you've got 95% of the continent?

It might be interesting if they join forces though.

I hope love emerges victorious.

RebelVampire

i do think ezo's injury is gonna make pella made. at least enough to challenge adelaide to another duel. but then he might also be mad at ezo and be like wtf ezo we were retreating

i dont think its all ego

just more its kind of awkward to not have pike's reach not united with the rest

cause according to that map pike's reach is basically surrounded on all sides

by pella's united country

mathtans

They'll have to redraw all the maps if Pike's given in though.

What the PUC?

Superjustinbros

mathtans

I feel like Ezo needs a friend even more than Adelaide. One who won't keep patting her on the head.

Maybe the injury will mellow her out, but I doubt it.

RebelVampire

i feel like ezo first needs to take a chill pill and stop going all life or death on everything

https://tapas.io/episode/850159 by this map id also assume pike's reach is a strategic advantage cause its closer to the west so if the west tries something its a good outpost to use to stave off an attack traveling in further eastward toward the capital

but all in all i think pella is genuine and really does want to make the country a better place.

mathtans

I can see that. It's a cool map too.

Superjustinbros

Yeah

Feels a lot like Europe/Russia/Asia merged into one

mathtans

"I will bring you love even if I have to smack you around."

RebelVampire

i actually dont know why pike's reach wouldnt want to unite with them to be honest. XD cause trade would be a nightmare at this point cause youd always have to try to skirt and sneak through the eastern horde lands. if the eastern hordes go to war with someone, land troops would be moved through pike's reach anyway. and to me it just seems pike's reach is more holding out for pride

but i guess tbf we dont know much about pella's country. maybe they eat babies and pike's reach has a strict no baby eating policy

mathtans

That's a fair point. Maybe there's something to the whole magic catastrophe, like they used to be a united continent and it went badly for them.

Jelly babies.

Incidentally, they seem to have all the major seasons, so don't live near an equator.

RebelVampire

i mean i guess it could just be an issue they dont want to be governed except by their own ppl or something. idk. i do feel the magic catastrophe has left some scares and suspicions. and ezo is proof pella isnt opposed to magic.

mathtans

Maybe, heritage and traditions or something. Ooh, maybe aliens will come and attack. That would unite everyone.

RebelVampire

this might be the wrong genre for that

maybe nefayn gets kidnapped

and they unite to save nefayn

cause love is the only thing that matters

mathtans

Could be. Oh, that's a thought, since she's vulnerable now and Adelaine owes her one or two.

Oh, and one nice bit I wanted to mention, the gag about her height.

RebelVampire

youll have to be more specific cause my mind is blanking on which specific gag youre referring to XD

although speaking of gags i liked the one where adelaide and nefayn were having the eating contest. except no one could see nefayn. XD

Superjustinbros

Alright, I'm gonna take my leave for now, thanks for the CTP and best of luck to Mabs on the story~

mathtans

(Sorry, little one again.)

The gag with Nefryn still being short... but being at an okay height. (Like, who isn't thinking that... )

That was amusing too. I wonder if you can get away with stuff when you see magic. "Uh, I wasn't talking to myself, no. Sure."

Have a good one, SJB!

RebelVampire

ah okay i know which gag you mean. that one was funny. XD

mathtans

Final closing thought, slow burn romance can be fun for when things come to a peak. Or a pike. ^.^

RebelVampire

i feel in general theres been a lot more jokes like that since nefayn became human

mathtans

It's been good for alleviating some of the tension.

RebelVampire

COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB END!

Sadly, this wraps up this week’s Thursday Book Club chat for now. Thank you so much to everyone for reading and joining us! We want to give a special thank you to Mabs, as well, for making Pike’s Reach. If you liked the comic, make sure to support Mabs’ efforts however you’re able to~!

Read and Comment: https://tapas.io/series/pikesreach

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comicteaparty · 7 years ago

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June 29th, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on June 29th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on Chaotic Nation by Zyephen.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Chaotic Nation by Zyephen~! (https://tapas.io/series/Chaotic-Nation) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i'm torn

Zyephen

will not be surprised if everyone picks the bath scene

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

looooooooooooool

IT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT

Zyephen

lol

RebelVampire

i like to refer to it as the almost dicks scene cause that was the scene while evaluating rating made me the most nervous for the innocent eyes XD

Zyephen

LOL

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm still reading...

Zyephen

yes dat's fairly accurate

RebelVampire

thats ok you can insert thoughts as reading.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i also liked the scene where arei pretty much kicks taron's butt in front of everyone xD

Zyephen

poor Taron. Ego pains

RebelVampire

actually almost dicks scene was not my fave tho. i really liked the scene where Taron and Arei came to that burned down village and Taron found that girl in the well. I thought it was cute because up till this point taron had mostly been a rough around the edges sort of person. so i thought it was sweet and ironic he was the one who actually found a survivor.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

oh yeah there was that too

RebelVampire

granted i also liked most of the fight scenes cause i think the magic effects look genuinely cool and exciting

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

yissssss

the fight scenes are really nicely drawn

Zyephen

That's nice to hear, cause i think fight scenes are my weakest point.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

hmmm there seems to be many pages per episode... this is gonna take a while

RebelVampire

i believe in you mharz

throws all the belief

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Sorry I was too busy yesterday. (edited)

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i read it on the smackjeeves site lol

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

maybe I should switch

I only saw tapas link

RebelVampire

admittedly i think the fight scenes could work on clarity as far as the action goes, but i think overall aesthetically theyre nice to look at and exciting.

i think i pinned the smackjeeves mirror on this channel

Tenor

You did.

It's how I found it lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

this guy is totally presh

Tenor

HI LATE, don't have much to add to the question because I didn't get to read (weh busy) but I wanted to drop off that from a glance in the first chapter I especially liked the backgrounds being painted vaguely, yet detailed enough to give each panel a nice, fleshed world but it didn't pull at all from the attention on the main characters and I HOPE I CAN READ IT SOON <3

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I kinda wish Areitus was a girl.... prefers fictional women over men

you know I like me some pretty girls

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

theres daya

she's a pretty girl

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

errrh

Zyephen

Bast is pretty

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

oh yeah bast is pretty too

Zyephen

pretty dangerous

RebelVampire

yeah bast is pretty hot

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm still on chapter 1 so I don't know the character yet

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

they pick up a girl later thats also pretty cute too

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

gimme the smackjeeves links I'll read there

tapas is giving me a hard time with all the scrolling

RebelVampire

http://chaoticnation.smackjeeves.com/

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

rebel was faster thanb me

Zyephen

Yeah the art from chapter 1 to chapter 14 is pretty drastically improved

Been working on it for over 10 years

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i noticed that

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I don't think I can read this in one sitting

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

it was p cool seeing the art progress

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

from chapter 1 to now

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

it's even longer than cali's volumes

Zyephen

4....28 pages i think

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

>A>

Zyephen

328*

RebelVampire

not really in total im pretty sure cali's is longer

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

yeaaaaaah

LOL

RebelVampire

but just read what you can

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

you did start in 2011 so for sure there will be tons of improvement

Zyephen

http://orig11.deviantart.net/4f72/f/2016/108/2/1/taron_dakimakura_by_zyephens_insanity-d9zeliv.jpg this is in my bed atm

lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

hubba hubba

RebelVampire

omg thats awesome

Zyephen

rofl

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I dunno... It has more texts than cali's so I'm slower to read

OMG

RebelVampire

i do like how the art improved. particularly with the line work. i always like really polished linework

yeah it does have more text. thats the catch.

Zyephen

http://orig12.deviantart.net/f76f/f/2016/108/6/6/areitus_dakimakura_by_zyephens_insanity-d9z2u25.jpg the other side

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

areeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Zyephen

lol arei is your fave?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm gonna look for that pretty girl your saying

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

of the two, yeah

Zyephen

Daya comes in chapter 3, I think Bast in the end of chapter 4

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

toooo faaaaaaaaaarrrr

screms

RebelVampire

those are really beautiful dakimakura

Zyephen

thanks

RebelVampire

this reminds me that overall i really enjoy how everything took a turn for the worst really quickly for final ground. i thought it presented some really good extra conflict and was kind of a good twist since you usually dont expect things to go south so soon

mathtans

Hiyo. I'm late. Also only had a chance to read the first 3 books earlier this week. Also fights and stuff isn't really my preference, so I'm not sure how much my opinion counts for. I will say, I like the "human mage" concept.

zetina

I'm appreciating the existence of nipples. And nice muscles

mathtans

I wonder if there's really more to it.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I couldn't read it, I'm still on chapter 1, but I must say I love the art, hot guys

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i felt really sad for tisik how that fight went down too

Zyephen

Tisik always get the short stick

poor guy

mathtans

Possibly not even the short stick, if it's sold.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i wanna give him all the hugs

RebelVampire

ah tisik will be fine. just needs to be dusted off. told not to worry that everone he knows is dead.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

loooooooool

Zyephen

shake it off it's just your only good eye

you're fine.

lol

RebelVampire

ah cali's doodles appear

Zyephen

Tisik still needs to show off his nipples

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. Towards the beginning of the comic, Areitus ominously mentions that the Karian are up to something since humans are disappearing. Even more so, various scenes do depict the Karians hauling people away. What do you think the Karians are up to? What does this have to do (if anything) with the king’s inaction and the tense treaty with the Karians?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

oh yeah

mathtans

Maybe they're making human mages, but one has now gone rogue on them!

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i'm really interested on why they keep abducting people

omg

RebelVampire

random fact, wrote this question before i noticed there was a new page about this topic. and was like

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

keeps forgetting that this will be archived and our derp convo will be recorded forever

RebelVampire

to be fair discord saves the convo forever. so its archived in some sense already

mathtans

(My speculations will probably be off target since I've only read, like, 20%....)

Zyephen

You can never escape your own stupid shiet - zyeph 2017

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

sounds about right

RebelVampire

truer words have never been spoken

if they were making human mages i dont think theyd be surprised one exists

Zyephen

dat scene with naked Bast wearing all her jewelry, she was like - wtf human mage?

RebelVampire

but to be fair to the theory, maybe she just too low ranking O_O and only the highest of the highest know

tbh im waiting for a twist like theyre using the humans in some massive magical blood sacrifice

and the king is just a super fan of blood sacrifice rituals

Zyephen

I can't say anything lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i was thinking either slavery or sacrifices too lol

RebelVampire

as you shouldnt. should just sit back and watch us wildly speculate

slavery seems the most likely but hence why i feel thats too simple

things feel more ominous then that

Zyephen

maniacal laughter

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

or they're eating them

gotta love bbq humans

Zyephen

dey got dos pointy teeth

RebelVampire

gotta use the pointy teeth for something

but if we assume the king is in on something then i think slavery still just too simple. its gotta be bigger. cause if they just wanted slaves i doubt they would need a treaty. could just defeat all humanity and say "well that was fun now we have our cattle humans."

mathtans

Didn't one of 'em say a particular human "bled too much"? If they wanted a blood sacrifice, seems like that would've been an advantage. Maybe they're used for target practice.

Like a Hunger Games kinda thing.

RebelVampire

omg that made me picture them tying to like a dart board and throwing knives at them just from how it was worded

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I see nekkid ladies!!!

Zyephen

Vade probably likes the ones that bleed

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

ooops wrong emoji

Zyephen

lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

looool

mathtans

Well, dart board humans could be a thing too.

Zyephen

just hope Vade never runs into poor lil Hisu alone, cause he'd prob carve him up and serve him with taters.

RebelVampire

on a side note, i really love vade's design. particularly his tattoo things. idk why exactly but they just make me think "man, this is a cool guy....if not murderous"

idk Hisu so giant would be too big for one meal

Zyephen

LOl

he's like a giant puppy

RebelVampire

like youd at least have to invite the other generals

make a feast out of it

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

NOT THE CUTIE

zetina

tuning in to say that my first impression of Hisu is "they're adorable and i want to be their friend"

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I like how Bast has a spine on her spine

RebelVampire

LOL

omg

Zyephen

she got the back bone

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

she couldnt remember where the spine would be

RebelVampire

i think Hisu is literally the most easily likeable

cause hes too adorable

cant hate

Zyephen

lol.... he has a horrible back story too

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

HE NEEDS HUGS TOO

Zyephen

but only hugs from boys

rofl

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

tisik or taron should hug him

/shot

RebelVampire

you mean...you mean his backstory isnt he was born from clouds and rainbows in a field of flowers?

Zyephen

well... maybe initially

but then shit hit the fan

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

imagines him riding unicorns

and accidentally squishes it cus he too big

Zyephen

it'd have to be like clydesdale unicorns

What characters are you guys most curious about their backstory?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I wanna boop his nose.

Zyephen

LOl

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

and pinch his cheeks

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

all of them

RebelVampire

everyone

O_O

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

looooooool

how taron and arei met

RebelVampire

uh if i had to pick..... sweats the choice is too hard

Zyephen

has a non-posted chapter about just that

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

and arei in general cus dat pic in the buried box

>A>

Zyephen

lol people were like - wtf his hair

RebelVampire

im sure it was instyle then O_O

Zyephen

maybe the chick liked to braid hair

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I like the design on this one

Zyephen

my critters

RebelVampire

ah yeah i really thought the art on the creatures was really well done. like you really get a feel for what the texture is

and that these creatures are 2 spook

should probably run

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

yus

RebelVampire

or become a karian and learn to just implode things

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

would totes have one as a pet

name it fido

Zyephen

http://img11.deviantart.net/4a0f/i/2016/359/f/6/general_thiel_by_zyephens_insanity-dasu6ko.jpg yet to be introduced

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

have it eat my enemies

Zyephen

he's fun to draw

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ooooooo

he looks awesome

O_O

RebelVampire

2 spook for me. mostly cause of the scorpion like tail. shivers and hides; mayhappen to live in the desert where scorpions are a literal house pest

rip whoever meets that

Zyephen

his mouth is on his stomach too

RebelVampire

ooh thats cool. O_O but still rip. can just imagine someone getting their arm stuck and ripped off

Zyephen

I'm currently writing his back story

he bites the top of a guy's head off.

fun

that will be fun to draw

RebelVampire

i bet itll look awesome cause i think the gore bits as it were are well done in general

Zyephen

I love drawing gore.. >>;

idk

RebelVampire

i finally picked. the characters whose background i most wanna know is actually kesthius and deviar

Zyephen

the bros!

RebelVampire

because im really curious about their relationship and why they so close. cause they do seem especially clingy in a way. always looking out for each other. which i really sweet. but also makes me hmm did something happen that they felt they had only each other

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Sorry that I am late

So far I am enjoying the comic but didn't have time to read a lot

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

So i was weighing them down...

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I only read the first two chapters

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

but I prefer Daya over Bast

Zyephen

only 12 more to go!

hah

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

buuuuut Stil prefer Arie as a girl

slaps self

Zyephen

lol well he's pretty like a girl?

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I have to admit I am really enjoying the story so far. Seems like my type of reading but I will need to get back to it soon

Zyephen

Taron prob preffers him as a girl too

prefers*

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

no I prefer girls

and yuri

/shots

RebelVampire

mharz no. youve got to move on. accept the truth.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

screms

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

accept arei is lovely as a pretty boy >V>

RebelVampire

and thats ok feather a lot of ppl seem to have been busy this week tears

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

nuuuuuuu

Zyephen

lol well to each their own!

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I appreciate all types of love in every single angle

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

gimme all the yuris

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

So I am hoping to get to know more about the mage and magic system

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

gimmie all the yaois

throws tables

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Zyephen

My friend said she doesn't like that they have to say the spells aloud to cast

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

gimme kissy ladies

RebelVampire

lol i have no qualms about them saying the spells aloud to cast. a lot of magic systems do.

Zyephen

I like it, idk

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i don't mind it either

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Yeah I personally would like to know more about the spell system so I guess I will need to read more

RebelVampire

i mean to be fair i do appreciate yours are pretty short incantations. cause that alleviates the tactical disadvantages of longer incantations

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Anyway, I'm gonna get breakfast so please enjoy yourselves... I'll be here crying while eating...

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Points at Prompt and Perfection for yaoi yuri straight odd weird everything pairings

RebelVampire

cause rebel assess by tactical advantage apparently

pats mharz

QUESTION 3. Areitus is unique because he is a human mage, something that hasn’t existed for a very long time. Even more so, it is only the Karians who are truly adept at magic so far. How do you think Areitus came into his powers? Does the reason have something to do with the bigger conflict that is going on?

its the question for you mathtans

mathtans

If spells have to be said aloud, that's a way of preventing people from casting.

RebelVampire

O_O

zetina

mmm lovin' the cover for chapter 7

mathtans

Heh. Well, he had to learn it from someone, right?

Zyephen

one of my faves

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I bet the wizards did it slapped

mathtans

Oooh, maybe he's a half breed?

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Naw let's see what convulted theory I can do here

mathtans

Cosmetic surgery? Wait, that's not a thing... magic surgery?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i wondered about if he could be a half breed too lol

RebelVampire

i thought half breed but then was like "maybe thats too obvious"

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

So he went on a long journey to see a magic tree who sent him to see a magic whale who was like get in my belly to get magic and then shot him out of the blowhole all magical and shit

RebelVampire

i dont believe in occams razor for theories. O_O

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I just like dumb theories

Zyephen

giggle

mathtans

Actually, if Karians can do magic, why don't they do it to try and blend in more? Like, spies?

Zyephen

how do you know that haven't done that already?

mathtans

I do not know. O.O

Zyephen

hehe

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Anyways I will read more after exams

got to go now

RebelVampire

my wonder is more if the karians can just point and implode their cattle dragon monsters, why cant they point and just implode humans. or do they think thats not fun enough

good luck on exams feather~!

mathtans

Humans have souls! .... Random speculation!

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

human pinatas

Zyephen

Bast did one shot one of the soldiers in chapter 7 or 8... forget

zetina

So far, I'm really appreciating that there aren't any huge infodumps. All the lore so far has come up organically through dialogue and events. I know who the enemies are, I know magic isn't a human thing, I know there's a treaty etc etc. You can infer everything. No one chimed in to ask what the two leads' relationship is - so far I have been able to understand that Arei is teaching the other and is much more experienced. I imagine I'll find out even more like this as I go along.(edited)

mathtans

That's a good point.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

and also seems like arei found taron when he was younger

too

judging by that one panel

zetina

Yeah! there was that brief one-panel flashback near the start

Zyephen

chapter 2

zetina

is Arei older than he looks? that's what i wonder now

RebelVampire

yes i do like how the lore is presented too. and i like its not all infodumped cause it does leave room for interesting speculation.

Zyephen

we did get that peek at the "buried treasure" as mercedes called it

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Oh yes I agree with that

I love the writing it's good

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

he so magical that he keeps his young looks despite beinga thousand years old

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Ahhh I need to stop looking back

RebelVampire

yeah cause when taron found that picture arei was like "that was another life" so what if arei is like some ancient immortal that existed before the cataclysm

since the lore does hint human mages existed before

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

OH OH

HE'S THE AVATAR

Zyephen

LOL

RebelVampire

i just choked on my soda. i now conclude cali is behind everything

zetina

Another good example of what I brought up is the fact that no one explained how Karians are different. It's obviously the ears. So when Taron focuses on Bast's ears, you immediately get that he realized "what" she is. It's nothing, like, WHOA. It's basic visual storytelling or whatever but

hey most of us are amateurs and it's a good example

Zyephen

Sure he was looking at her ears, not her ass.

zetina

Arei has eyes that look kinda pupil-less or misty too. So he deff has this mythical feel to him like he's not quite human.

Zyephen

we'll go with that

RebelVampire

maybe he was looking at both

taron can multitask

Zyephen

zetina

ofc what he saw first was the bod hence the and blush B)

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

"if only arei had that bod...."

shot

zetina

the ears were a disappointing realization

Zyephen

well... Taron's moral compass is just south of moral

lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

the bath scene made me think taron could have a lil crush on arei lol

zetina

Taron just wants to be cool and get tail but he forgot that you need social skills and charm to get tail and be cool :'(

Zyephen

X3 dat blush

RebelVampire

Taron just a grumpy bear. wants to be strong like big brother arei but is still so tiny.

Zyephen

http://orig02.deviantart.net/27db/f/2012/128/a/a/defeat_by_zyephens_insanity-d4yzmqa.jpg

zetina

physically big but skill-wise tiny haha

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

BAES

RebelVampire

i was gonna say cute but they look half dead

so more babies no

zetina

i still say cute

because napping together while half dead is super cute

Zyephen

Aw Taron just needs to have the chance to shine! and not get tea-bagged by a dragon.

RebelVampire

i always feel a bit bad for taron cause i feel like he does have his moments of shine....just ya know, when no one is around to see

Zyephen

lol

RebelVampire

like saving mercedes. that was him doing good. but only arei was really around

Zyephen

http://orig15.deviantart.net/a9d2/f/2011/290/b/1/meeting_your_enemy_by_zyephens_insanity-d4d5ey6.jpg

zetina

Yeah! I dunno of the main draw is fighting but if so, I deff wanna see other characters show off their skills. Then when Arei does something really amazing, it'll be enhanced by how much better than those cool guys he is! Though I haven't caught up yet so..

RebelVampire

omg this is the best page

Zyephen

lol

zetina

THOSE FACES

Zyephen

Taron. such a tease

mathtans

Yeah, some of the side comedy is nice. Expressions help with that.

Zyephen

lol i liek doing stupid faces sometimes

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

HAHAHA TARON

zetina

i love that Taron gets to only shine out of public eye? he does shit to be seen so it's like karma or something. i just know that i like that whole trope where people underestimate a character cuz they haven't seen them at their best. and then it can pay off with Taron doing something amazing in front of everyone when he's matured a bit.

Zyephen

Bast like - hold on shoots him in the forhead ok, carry on.

Taron is the king of getting into trouble really

RebelVampire

of all the comedic moments this one is definitely my favorite

Zyephen

a cute behemoth

RebelVampire

taron's face is so perfect for the moment tho.

but also man is hisu tall.

Zyephen

I like the face he makes at the end of the shower scene

when he's like- are you being sarcastic?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

hisu is like a gentle giant

Zyephen

Everyone's so mean to him too. poor guy

RebelVampire

haha that is a good face. relatedly, i also enjoy that taron got his petty revenge by having already looted the talisman

zetina

i want to sit on Hisu's shoulders

Zyephen

lol Hisu pony

http://orig02.deviantart.net/b164/f/2016/236/9/9/kiss_after_training_by_zyephens_insanity-daf70e8.jpg

have shameless kissy doodle

RebelVampire

i like how you call it a doodle but its still pretty clean. XD

at least...tisik is blind atm and doesnt have to witness this

Zyephen

wel.... it's not done, it's a doodle

Tisik like- THERE'S ONLY ROOM IN THIS ARMY FOR ONE GAY MAN! AND THE SPOT IF FILLED!

is*

Hisu - points at self quizzically

RebelVampire

LOL

i can only picture him screaming that during where the comic is currently at

since thats the most inappropriate time for that

Zyephen

LOL screams at the lake cause he's blind

RebelVampire

everyone just sitting by, looking at him with remorse as they wonder what the lake ever did to him

QUESTION 4. The comic often mentions a cataclysm that resulted in the characters’ current world. There are hints throughout that the world had advanced technology before this cataclysm, most prominently alluded to by the car Hisu was fixing. What do you think this cataclysm was? Do you think this leftover technology will ever play a part in the story?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i forgot about the car being a thing

loooool

RebelVampire

i wanted him to fix it so they could have a fun road trip through the countryside :"D

Zyephen

Well I guess Hisu's car got burned with the rest of the castle.

ff15cough

mathtans

Hmmm. Natural event? Or manmade?

RebelVampire

omg cannot unsee ff15 now.

that is the question

granted i usually assume manmade

cause bad humans

mathtans

Perhaps it was the discovery of magic. Which got the attention of the Karians.

RebelVampire

except the description on tap says "Karians were first born during the cataclysm."

which if thats still accurate

Zyephen

yup that's accurate

RebelVampire

so maybe it couldve been the discovery of magic but maybe that discovery led to the creation of the karian cause human bodies too fragile for magic

mathtans

Oh yeah. Hmmmm. Well, could still discover magic and that causes babies to change?

Or that.

Or maybe just everyone's cell phone died at once and people lost it.

They tried to genetically engineer people with built in wifi.

RebelVampire

well to be fair if there was a really bad solar flare itd take out the entire world's power grid. and thats not a good thing

Zyephen

I have no cell service!!! scene from the kingsman movie ensues

mathtans

That's true.

RebelVampire

thatd be a sad cataclysm. as like hisu finds a cell phone and everyone is like "hiss that was the cause of the cataclysm"

Zyephen

lol

hisu- I'm gonna fix it

mathtans

Makes the thumb/index symbol for 'call me'.

RebelVampire

LOL

Zyephen

haha

mathtans

(Oh wait, thumb pinkie... you know what I mean...)

Zyephen

http://orig15.deviantart.net/1134/f/2017/179/1/b/chaotic_nation_ch14_pg05_by_zyephens_insanity-dbeedpa.jpg how bout dis new page. new character

human character =x

RebelVampire

LOL i was just looking at that page and thinking man this is the most interesting page to suddenly appear

i really like general kaash's design

like he looks like a badass

Zyephen

I just redesigned him recently. Pretty happy with him.

mathtans

Curious, how much is scripted in advance?

Zyephen

I have a rough plot with just like bullet points

but i write out the chapter's dialogue before i do it

mathtans

Makes sense.

Zyephen

I have 9 arcs planned

currently on arc 2...

mathtans

Wowwww. I admire the ambition.

Zyephen

lol

when I'm 70 It should be done

lol

RebelVampire

ah good. id hate the story to end so soon since it does feel like its getting really good. and also cause theres so much character development potential. and so many questions

like i really wanna know about the king

and why he sucks at kinging

Zyephen

lol it'll be obvious in a few pages

since he's about to come in

mathtans

He's a midget.

Zyephen

lol

RebelVampire

to hisu everyone is a midget

zetina

king comes in late with starbucks "hey hi where's some peasants i can step on and ignore"

Zyephen

tyron lanester?

tyrion*

RebelVampire

if tyrion was king i might side with him

Zyephen

lol for sho

RebelVampire

and just be like "ah man the peasants are having problems? thats umm...unfortunate. plz say something witty to aleive the situation."

mathtans

Could the king be married to a Karian or something?

zetina

SCANDALOUS

RebelVampire

of the possibilities i ran through my head never considered that one

cause itd make sense why there was suddenly a treaty or if it was part of the treaty agreement

mathtans

"Meet my waifu, she does all the governing stuff."

(Or he. Not to judge.)

Zyephen

the king just goes and plays golf

maybe he's married to vade

rofl

RebelVampire

HAHA

thats why theyre like "sure come on in vade"

zetina

agh it's almost 5am and i'm dyin of hunger. im going to bed <'D made it to chapter 11 tho. i wasn't sure on the story at first, but Arei and Taron have grown on me so I'm looking forward to learn more about them in the future. As well as learning more about the actual conflict and its history.

Zyephen

thanks for reading

zetina

thanks for making the story =v=

RebelVampire

thank you for coming zetina~!

Zyephen

^-^

RebelVampire

my semi-joke theory is that the king is a minor. and the karians were like "well give you these cool toys if you give us humans"

so king was like sure thats awesome

whoo toys

Zyephen

haha

mathtans

King plays video games all day. He has the only working electronics.

Zyephen

or maybe he's a teenager and they gave him hot ladies

they're liek we'll give you this whore house if you just sit back and chill

king's like- k

RebelVampire

ah man taron, go usurp the king. then you can get the hot ladies and be set for life.

Zyephen

lol

there's gonig to be a brothel in this chapter

should be fun

mathtans

For who?

Zyephen

that's the question

RebelVampire

clearly its for hisu

Zyephen

Hisu would be like... the whore

lol

RebelVampire

HAHA

at least hed be a popular whore. with so many adorable faces

mathtans

"You want me to what?"

Zyephen

Taron comes in and hisu is like, my body is ready. and Taron is like fck. this is not what i paid for.

RebelVampire

and arei is outside just shaking his head in shame at taron.

Zyephen

arei like- am i not enough?!

RebelVampire

arei just needs to put on something sexy

problem solved

Zyephen

lol banana hammock

mathtans

A peeling.

RebelVampire

Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this week’s chat~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Zyephen, as well, for volunteering Chaotic Nation for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Zyephen’s efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected].

With that said, next week’s Comic Tea Party will focus on Oops Comic Adventure by Cyndi Foster and Jeramy Hobz. Please use this week to read as much of the comic as you would like. Hope to see you next Thursday (July 6th) from 5PM to 7PM PST~! Until then~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/Oops-Comic-Adventure-3

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