#these people want to write about what irrelevant whiners SA victims are

[bisolationist]

Almost like my post was about the general patterns and a broader context of how male SA victims are treated by people, and not about you specifically and you alone, nor even about your text and your text alone but how it's used in practice by many. Much like your post was also about a broader context of societal interactions - which I do agree with to a decent degree, mind. But it's just not the whole story.

So yeah, you're right - I don't know you. I didn't even reblog from you. You are not, as far as I know, one of the "so many" to whom I refer. None of it was aimed at you specifically. This is a thousand note post, not a small personal one, so I very much doubted you'd even notice my comment, and it didn't matter to me if you did. I didn't bear any particular hostility towards you personally.

But as a male SA victim I am very familiar - far more than you - with the broader context of why so many people are eager to believe certain things about us, including the central rhetoric of your post, because of what they can use it to justify beyond the explicit text you personally wrote.

Again, yes, much of what you said is true. But framing male victims as "mere collateral of the patriarchy" is also a tempting justification and absolution for A) those who want to believe any and all behavior they commit towards male SA victims is preemptively justified and has the moral high ground. B) female rapists and those eager to defend them. C) people eager to overlook and excuse both previous groups as harmless and inconsequential.

“maybe I can ask a question and become better informed about what this person is saying.”

What, like you did for me? Did you consider why I might be upset about this subject matter and how people treat it? Did you consider I have direct and personal experience with people defending and espousing the things I listed, and using justifications like yours to say why what they did is good? Did you consider the tags were not meant for you, but for the people stalking my blog and actively harassing me and telling me for 6 months now how the woman that correctively raped me for being SSA just didn't do anything "that bad"? Did you consider anything at all except that I'm "delusional" and don't know anything about the life-experiences of SA victims and personally trying to attack you for no reason?

#I also don’t believe you’re serious about thinking I really pick and choose when to care about sexual assault#no normal-minded person does this

Again, I don't know you specifically. But yes plenty of people tell me day in and day out they DO pick and choose when they care about sexual assault. They tell me repeatedly, shamelessly, and openly. So in very fact, my exact point of this post was that people who do this are not "normal minded" persons despite their high-minded justifications. Whether that applies to you or not I could not possibly say.

the reason male victims of sexual violence aren't taken seriously is the same reason female victims aren't and that's because men are the overwhelming perpetrators in both instances. some men being silenced is not the fault of feminism, it's the necessary collateral of upholding the male dominated sexual hierarchy.

this is like when people say "more men are murdered than women so why are women afraid of men?" who don't seem to understand that it's men murdering those men too, and that "men are the ones overwhelmingly murdering men and women" is not a fact that should rightfully make women less wary of them.