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So my question is between Nurbanu Sultan, Safiye Sultan and Mihrimah Sultan who was more Influential during Selim's and Murad's Reign? We Know that Mihrimah acted as Valide sultan too (with Nurbanu) and Safiye, considering Mihrimah's Support shouldn't have been far too off considering she was also Haseki and Very Respected.
My List in Selim's Reign Would Be
1.Mihrimah
2.Nurbanu
3.Safiye
My List in Murad's Reign would be
1.Nurbanu
2.Mihrimah
3.Safiye
Murad Respected Mihrimah Sultan Very much so i believe , as long as mihrimah lived, Sultan Murad Held her high in Status, Considering the rank in the harem Mihrimah,as a royal blood sultana plus older than nurbanu, should've been comparable to her or more influntial.
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During Selim's reign, both Mihrimah and Nurbanu certainly played historically, since Mihrimah was defacto his Valide and Nurbanu - his haseki. Mihrimah could be the one that dominated at first, because she ruled his harem and certainly kept stuff under control, but when Selim eventually married Nurbanu, she became the most influential woman in his reign. Safiye wasn't all that influential during Selim's reign, since she was gaining a favorable position in Murad's harem and the battle between her and Nurbanu probably intensified only during his reign.
In the show, things aren't so predetermined. We had Mihrimah leaving the capital even before SS died and Selim officially ascended the throne, leaving stuff to Nurbanu and Safiye even earlier. It's pretty much up for speculation on whether she came back or not and how involved she was in Selim's reign. The amount of influence she had in the reign depends on whether she came back or not. If she didn't come back, she could've definetly supervised stuff or at least send someone to tell her what the news are through Safiye, whom she herself trained in the show. Then I don't really see her coming back or doing stuff directly, because she had Safiye for this purpose already, she had someone to work against Nurbanu who was to keep being faithful to her (and judging by Safiye's characterization in MCK, yes, she stays true to what Mihrimah has told her about Hürrem and her legacy and based nearly her entire philosophy and principles on that). She would visit Selim, she would still help him if he needed that help, no matter how resentful she was to him for Bayezid, Selim himself would want to calm her. She left stuff go according to her plans (Safiye ultimately defeated Nurbanu) and she would have a say on how this whole battle would go before her death, but would she have all the say, if she somehow didn't rule Selim's harem? I doubt it. But then again, Selim would want her back, because someone would have to rule the harem after all and for them to maybe start over. She may try her best to rule his harem, to work against Nurbanu as a Valide and to enhance the conflict between her and Safiye and she may be the dominating force for a while, but Nurbanu would gain the upper hand eventually, due to all the support Selim would give her, especially if Mihrimah wouldn't want to let go of her resentment of Selim and he saw that. It would be a hard fight between them, since I feel who's more influential depends not as much on their positions in the hierarchy as it does on whoever gets more support from Selim eventually. Nurbanu would know that, too, and strive to keep the influence she had on him, while I think for Mihrimah it would take more time to try reaching out to Selim, because he had a finger in a wound of hers that probably would never heal and that could lose her some points. And once again, Nurbanu would prevail, because of Selim marrying her, hence giving her more priveleges and she would be more confident about asserting herself against Mihrimah. Nurbanu would perhaps struggle with Safiye more here than historically, because again, the battle would be on way earlier, but Nurbanu would still dominate as a favourite and haseki, while Safiye could show her force in a similar role to Nurbanu in Selim's reign only after Murat took over. Here too she would have the last position.
For the infamous fight for influence during Murad's reign historically, I have some quotes from Pinar Kayaalp's research on Nurbanu named "The empress Nurbanu and Ottoman politics in the sixteenth century. Building the Atik Valide": "In short, in contrast with Selim, who was rebuked for having transferred his authority to his imperial Divan, Murad was condemned for having conceded all his power to a close-knit coalition within the imperial harem loyal to the Valide Sultan. Murad’s haseki, Safiye, joined the fray, sometimes collaborating with but often acting against her mother-in-law and her allies. 125 Contemporaneous dispatches and relazioni of Venetian diplomats carefully reflect the transformation of power, following Nurbanu’s and Safiye’s political trajectory day by day. The minute details given in these sources illustrate that their authors discerned not one, but two foci of power in the imperial court. A relazione, that of Paolo Contarini dated 1583, stresses the good fortune of the Venetian Republic for having Nurbanu’s full support, since she was the most influential of the Sultan’s council, seconded by Safiye. It is a common occurrence that he shies away from any action necessitated by the [exigencies of] the day ahead, resting a deed principally on the counsel of his mother, believing that he could never obtain a more affectionate and faithful advice than hers, stemming from the reverence that he nurtures for her and his esteem for her rare qualities and many virtues. Another [woman] who has authority over His Majesty is the Sultana, his wife, who is also engaged skillfully in the affairs of state and makes her opinions heard, because she is loved infinitely by the Signor. As a result, this empire more and more has come to be governed by the [two] Sultanas, who use the magnificent pashas as the executors of their wishes and who summon them at their will as their counselors." The fight between Nurbanu and Safiye clearly marked Murad's whole reign and Nurbanu apparently held her ground very well, given Murad leaning on his mother's advices and support. She was the most influential person in his reign, with Safiye as an opposition and unfortunately or not, Mihrimah... wasn't much of a factor during the reign. After all, she lost the position as Selim's Valide, she died very early in Murad's reign and the quotes detail how the political power between the two forces that were Safiye and Nurbanu was growing rapidly. There isn't so much Mihrimah could've done historically, since the pashas and the divan probably had to choose to be either on Nurbanu's or Safiye's side.
In the show, we're again left on more speculation. And Mihrimah could've had more say than historically, because we were shown that Murad respected her, as well, and she specifically instructed Safiye. Until she died, she could've helped Safiye in her battle and if she was still in the castle, support her even and make things even harder for Nurbanu, and if she wasn't, she would've visited them at the very least, since Murad would surely ask about her. She would have reached out to him comparatively more easily than Selim, because there was no fight between both of them. Mihrimah could've ensured Safiye's victory somehow, with a plan or an advice Safiye followed even after Mihrimah died. But even then... the battle was between Safiye and Nurbanu and its outcome was the decider of who was the most influential. Here Nurbanu probably had even more of a struggle, because Murad was infatuated with Safiye even before Selim's reign officially began and it's more likely that he would get in fights with his mother because of Safiye. We know that Nurbanu does eventually become more cruel (Safiye saying she was the cruelest sultana she has even known) and that Safiye has been exiled once in the Old Castle during Murat's reign, so she has had much power and ruthlessness at her behest. We also know that Safiye eventually has gotten used to her own power so much that she refused to give up from it in MCK and I kinda doubt this began only from Mahmud's reign. (that's why I think Safiye has the best material for a spin-off out of the show!SOW - the contrast between her E239 words and MCK Safiye is massive and it's worth observing how we got from the person being there for a sole task and fulfilling the role Mihrimah trained her for to the person who not only got out of the role, faced so many hardships from the system that she gained a vast knowledge of it, but gained this much power, correspondance with queen Elizabeth, such presence and such a big confidence in herself.) So judging by the show' canon dynamics and from what we know, in Murad's reign, Nurbanu and Safiye were fighting tooth and nail with different amounts of upper hand when Nurbanu's influence as a Valide dominated until Safiye took over and Mihrimah probably helped Safiye to gain more supporters.
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Okay hi its me again💜 i enjoyed your answers to my questions but im here again lol
My Question now is probably annoying or hard but i asked another page a while ago and they said it was too hard (had to re search a lot for it) but i find it very interesting.
Ranking All Imperial Sultanas from MC/MCK by how Influental/powerful they were,would be very happy if u made a list with reasonings i love yours blogs and how well they're formulated.
I'll have to agree with the other page you've asked this question that it's going to be hard answering to it when it comes to history. There's still stuff we don't know for sure (we don't even know precisely how much political influence Hürrem actually had historically!) and there is a lot of research to be done in order to give a full perspective.
That's why I'm going to limit myself to the show. While I feel the hierarchy is even more of a mess there, the conclusions one can drive are far more clear cut, especially when it comes to the evolution of power being explored on a thematic level through the Sultanate of Women.
That said, for me, the most powerful and influential sultana in the show is Kösem. She got the most from the power as a sultan's favourite and the power as a valide. She had the support of both the people and the Jannisary. She was a regent during the early years of Murat's reign and even after Murat took away her regency, she could run her foundations and had meetings that were her making decisions about the state. She represented the state almost her whole life to the point she went as far as to remove every single threat that stood in its way. Out of all the sultanas, she was the one who had the most chance to utilize and extend her power, yet she was the one with the most opposition from people who were capable of anything to take her down. She fought with enemies that put her under constant pressure, but also had their fair share of power and it was a lot more possible for the odds to turn in their favor when it came to it. Kösem managed to overcome all of them not only through sheer force of will, but also through the sheer confidence in the amount of power she wields (and the way she uses it).
The two most important "branches" of Kösem's power that make her stand out among the rest are the reach her power has and her experience. Kösem's touch of power was relatively early - Ahmet and Mustafa, the the most important people in the whole empire, were in their death beds, Handan, the Valide Sultan, didn't know what to do when everyone else was only seeking their own benefit, and the only one who could stand up to the people in what was a massive revolt, was Kösem. By expressing the confidence that the sultan was okay, she represented the country as early as episode 7, she gained another, new wave of respect in the harem and it all unraveled from there. She was starting to "lose" her innocence, she clashed with arguably the most powerful people in the harem (Safiye and Halime + Dilruba), Ahmet, for all he was, acted very "loosely" with her, in terms of what he permitted her to do when it came to the boundaries of her power in the harem and his heart, he relied on her to make decisions when he couldn't, he looked up to her, he sought her advice, he even left the state in her hands in the end. Thanks to the evolution of the SOW, now that very powerful and influential women are the norm in the harem rather than the exception, Kösem was both in a precarious, yet very powerful position, she grasped what the ones before her had and yet got to lengths no one else before (or after her, show-wise) did. Her power spread everywhere, she had so many areas of influence, to the point Murat, the padişah himself, felt overshadowed by all that. But most importantly, she reached out to the people, they all loved and respected her. No sultana was as close to her people as Kösem and I feel that's the most valuable power one could have.
I would put Safiye as second. She's been in power for so many years and she perceives her own power as so massive it's hard for her to let go of. Her dresses, morning routines, material possessions, servants were exemplary. She was so influential in the harem that she was still pretty much perceived as a Valide, even when she already wasn't. She was apparently close to Queen Elizabeth in the show, as well. She also had foundations, even though reaching to the people was far from her first priority. What brings her down for me, is that her influence began to waver slowly, but surely, ever since she was imprisoned in that tower. (yes, she still had a concubine to poison Ahmet, but still...) She lost from Kösem eventually, but she still had very strong presence and was a remarkable member of the SOW. Something from her was left even when she was at her "weakest" - the person manipulating Osman.
I don't know where to put Turhan, to be honest. She was certainly very influential, because she could amass people to her side and staged this massive coup and what helped even further, is her being in a high position from the very beggining and her thematic role in the evolution of power in the SOW, that while everyone else there had their power from their positions as favorites to some extent, at least, Turhan got it solely from herself and what she achieved on her own, because the love and favor from the padişah in her case, was absent at best. But.... her achievements and early apparent upper hand at first only stemmed from the fact that she was Kösem's shadow, she was essentially fooling her and playing with her trust. That is surely bold and the amount of time she succeeded to win in her hands is definetly something, but that facade could last only so far and when it dropped.... Kösem and Turhan were pretty much on equal ground. They were doing move after move and Turhan won only because she used Kösem's weakness. And her weakness.. wasn't the amount of power she wielded. Turhan manipulated her to let go of her personal restraints, which was what she thrived in, but that wasn't really related to power. Power was what Turhan wanted to get, not what she fully had. The same goes with influence. The spheres of Kösem and Safiye's influences were also much bigger than what Turhan ever got and no matter how well she twisted her words, her stunt could even become ineffectual later on, because she has neither ideals, nor principals, but we cannot deny she went way beyond her predecessors for the thing she craved, so I guess she could be here for now.
The Halime and Dilruba (+Davud) faction is not to be underestimated at all. Despite that, similarly to (one aspect of) Turhan, most of their power came from their ruthlessness and how much they were willing to use it. It's interesting, because Halime's most "powerful and influential" was her at her most desperate point, when she seemed to be losing control, because when everyone (the Jannisary especially) learned about Mustafa's condition, no one wanted him to be their sultan, and when Mustafa was dethroned and Osman was the one who ruled. The faction being ready to do anything to be in power and win caused them to beat Kösem in certain instances and were the reason for one of her biggest losses. As far as I recall, they were setting people against Osman and they were also fueling the fire around him, as well as the other stuff. Their opportunism is also a key thing in their power, while it could be also Halime's flaw, when it was her strenght, it fully showed. Knowing when to act (post-E25 Halime and especially Dilruba) and circling around all sides (pre-E25 Halime) is important and advantageous, compared to those who are more direct in their motives. However, when that ruthlessness of the faction is gone, they end up believing way too much in their own victory, hence they let themselves get off guard. Which is what, as well as their ruthlessness that caused Kösem to act even more against them, brought them to their end. And Halime herself could act very irrationally when the opportunity finally seems to come for her, which made her fall under Safiye's traps.
Nurbanu had enough power to guide Selim, hide his mistakes and win him supporters in a way, even though I'm sure she could also be pretty independent of him. She also ended up defeating Hürrem, all things considered. She was cunning enough and she gained influence considerably fast, judging by MC's themes, of course. However, we didn't see much of her influence outside of Selim in the show and seemed to have opposition quickly after her supposed victory was approaching, with the Safiye case she didn't have the upper hand in, in the end. (though it hadn't been such an easy battle, I'm certain of that.) Nurbanu is definetly the most powerful and influential concubine of a prince, but would she be more powerful than the current/future valides before her? I can't say for sure.
While I don't see her as the most powerful and influential sultana of the franchise, Hürrem definelty brought something new to the table, especially in regards to all the traditions she broke, her more extensive foundation work and her getting in contact with the statesmen, along with vast political allies. Hürrem was the sultana whose power stemmed from her favorable position, but that alone. And thanks to both SS and the themes and the time period, that also could only go so far. Her fatal flaw (the fixation of her enemies and her taking the more opportunistic political allies instead of truly testing their loyalty) made her political alliances become unstable in the end. She had her severe amount of influence, but that influence... seemed to disappear little by little when she seemed to be losing, especially when it came to Rüstem. Her power comes from Süleiman and if/when he dies, Hürrem loses absolutely everything. She has her fair amount of legacy, of course, especially with the favorable treatment and her marriage and how far could one start going on the road of power (though that was more on the themes that set Hürrem as a trendsetter for similar character arcs, not so much on Hürrem herself, but it's stil there), but there're sultanas more powerful than her.
I don't think I'm going to go through all the dynastic sultanas when it comes to power, because their characters and arcs are very rarely connected to power. Still, I find the most powerful and influential dynastic sultanas of MC to be Şah and Mihrimah, and of MCK: Hümaşah. Şah is especially there when it comes to influence and how many things she succeeded to pull off, to the point she could beat both Hürrem and Mihrimah, if she truly wanted to, and Mihrimah had SS's favor and her own growing confidence in her own capabilities, which is also very important. Hümaşah has her power as Safiye's daughter and then, very loosely, as a harem ruler, even though she's not more powerful than her or most of the MCK sultanas.
Ayşe Hafsa had her own fair share of power as a Valide Sultan. She wasn't that massively influential and she didn't weave political plots, but she was very strong in the harem, which she ruled with grace and poise. She had everyone there obey, respect and at times even fear her and she didn't give up so easily in her fight with Hürrem. She was a tough opponent precisely because of the power she had in the harem and even Hürrem admitted she was looking up to her to an extent. Everyone listened to her sound advice and SS considered her his conscience, even though she slowly lost her influence of him in S02B. (and even then SS still cared for her enough, of course)
A bit of a bizarre opinion maybe, but I put Gülbahar and Mahidevran next to each other when it comes to the power they wield in their respective shows. That's mostly when it comes to the vast amount of supporters they both have gained whether it's thanks to their sons or their own personalities, which could put them a step above their rivals at times. (the "Mahidevran is dependent on others" remark.... could actually be as much her advantage as is Gülbahar's seek of supporters and how she uses that.) Both have sons they strive to advice in their own beliefs and while sometimes they may not listen, they respect their mothers a lot. Both gain their strength and power without being favored by their respective sultans. Mahidevran's power shows much more when she rules her harem in Manisa, as she she shows decisiveness and justice and yet can use the same firm hand Valide Hafsa once used with her when necessary. Gülbahar's power shows much more in the castle with all the reach she has thanks to her supporters, along with her big ambition to get what's hers. I would put Gülbahar before Halime and Mahidevran after Ayşe Hafsa in this list.
In theory, Handan had a lot of power as a Valide, but she could by no means adapt to it. She was trying to exert it as much as possible, yet she never discovered how exactly to do it, and when she seemed close to discovering, someone either worked behind her back or everything just went all wrong. Nearly everyone's lack of respect thanks to Safiye's influence was even harder to get over. Handan wasn't suited for this harem life and her only solaces were her son and Derviş. Power wasn't Handan's thing at all, still she was an awesome character.
Farya and Ayşe are a tricky case. While Farya was the closest person to Murat ever being favorable to someone (besides Atike, actually no wonder they're besties!) and he married her, she didn't have the safest position in the castle, because she couldn't have children for the longest time. What Farya got in the end was only a slightly more favorable position that could end at any given time and Kösem becoming her enemy didn't help, either. Ayşe practically ranked above Farya as a mother of Murat's children, but her relationship with Murat was strained, at the very least, and that could pretty much cost her her life. Gülbahar only took advantage of her. The girl was stuck in an abusive and toxic relationship and all she could do to end it, was take her own life and that of her children. Thing is, we're talking Murat and he's as abusive and toxic with all his women as he can get, along with his fear for someone to betray or outshine him, so there's only so much power you can get during his unpredictable and (both direct and deep-seated) anger induced reign, so both Ayşe and Farya are on equal terms when it comes to power. Murat screwed both of them over so hard, I don't think there was ever time or a chance for them to seek such power and influence like others have and I don't blame them for it one bit. It's really, really heartwrenching, actually.
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Okay Okay Dont wanna spam u but last question 😅
So What do u think would have happened of Sah Sultan Didnt Leave when Mihrimah Threatened her (we know her proof wasnt solid) who would win that battle,both are very intellegent but Mihrimah is not....Hurrem😅 so as much as i adore mihrimah and her intelligence i think Sah would've eventually outsmarted her and won the "battle"
But I do Think Hurrem vs Sah would end up on Hurrem's Side of Hatice didnt attempt to kill her. We Know Hurrem is Extremely Smart and Powerful.
Whats Your Opinion on this topic. <3
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Şah left primarily because she wasn't willing to fight with her own blood and she didn't find a point in keeping on anymore, for Hürrem was perceived to be fully gone, not so much for the proof Mihrimah had. If, in an alternate future, Şah didn't have these kinds of "restraint", I'm also 100% sure that she would've outsmarted Mihrimah entirely. While Mihri was already getting her grasp and experience in the harem games at this point, Şah would be the one with the upper hand, because she is more sly, more cunning, more pragmatic and plans much more carefully than Mihrimah ever did. Şah never acted before she was sure of the outcome and that trait of hers would bring her a sure amount of advantage. Şah has also as much allies as Mihrimah does.
I would say it could be more difficult for her against Rüstem than Mihrimah, because he could match her cunning much more, thanks to his opportunism, which could make him unpredictable in Şah's eyes. But then again, she could use that same opportunism of his to her advantage and could very well surprise him with one of her moves. But given that Rüstem certainly would want to keep his marriage with Mihrimah at that point.... she would've had a harder time if both had teamed up to eliminate her. With Mihrimah herself? S03 Mihrimah? Not so much.
I'm kind of iffy on how her battle with Hürrem would have gone if she wasn't abducted by Hatice. In contrast to Hürrem's other antagonists in the period when she thematically prevailed, let's say (that's why I don't count Nurbanu here, so basically everyone except her), I don't think Şah has much in the way of a fatal flaw that would make her doom herself with her own failings in order for Hürrem to win like what mostly happened with the others and it's a pattern that the show liked to keep until S04 where it was downplayed at the very least. It would all be a battle of wits between them and that's the thing: they were... pretty much even on that? Hürrem planned on the long term, but so did Şah. Hürrem outsmarted her, but so did Şah. I think it could come out as an endless battle if Şah Sultan decided to keep fighting and anyone could end up victorious. It was an even battle all the way through: Hürrem is smart, but didn't seem to outsmart Şah on the long run because she always responded in the same way, and vice versa. Both also have a vast amount of allies and influence, both of them are ambitious and both of them will stop at nothing, if they really want to get something. I truly see both Hürrem and Şah having an equal possibility of winning.
However, things could be very different if we imagine that the abduction, Mehmet's death and everything leading up to S04 happened the exact same way and Şah staying to fight instead of leaving is the only thing that changed. It would be much more likely for S04 Hürrem to win her battle with Şah. S04 Hürrem has the same traits underneath, but due to what she had experienced in the end of S03, she has double the ambition, all the ruthlessness necessary for her wish to exact revenge on everyone who wronged her and her fatal flaw that shines all the more in this season: the fixation on her enemies. This fixation is going to fuel her to be extra cunning, extra planning on the long term and much much more willing to do desperate measures to achieve her goals. This Hürrem would view Şah as a threat that has to be immediately eliminated at all cost, hence her actions could be far quicker and more cruel. (see how she dealt with all the concubines that went to SS in S04) I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the throat instantly, when it came to Şah, as well, because in that moment, she would also view her as an old enemy and a solid reminder of what she went through. Maybe she would even deal with her first. It would make a world of difference. I don't think Şah would be ready for the amount of ruthlessness and going in extremes S04 Hürrem has so engrained in her already, so maybe then she could indeed choose to retire herself, to stay away from all that and/or leave everything to Mercan. Maybe in S04, after facing this side of Hürrem, she would do what she did after facing Mihrimah. Maybe only then the winner of the battle would be decided in advance.
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OKAY FINALLY I FOUND SOMEONE ACTIVE LOVE YOUR POSTS BTW <3
So I got a question, Hurrem Sultan After getting the title "haseki sultan" in order to rule the harem,did she still have to bow to anyone in the palace that isnt the Sultan himself? because originally it puts her above them,because in the series she still bows to (Sah Huban,Hatice and even Fatma Sultan) and did haseki title also put her above the grand vizer (ibrahim) so that ibrahim had to bow to her when they encountered or is it the other way around?
Would appreciate an answer
Thank you <33
I'm not completely sure what is the case historically, since the titles are a mess and "haseki" was a new title made exclusively for Hürrem. I think she should be on a higher rank than SS's sisters, but that wouldn't be much of an issue, since they weren't wandering around Topkapi like in MC? Now I really don't know is she above Ibrahim or not.
In the show, I think it was made pretty clear that all the members of the dynasty, including Hatice, Beyhan, Şah and Fatma, were above both Hürrem and Mahidevran. The haseki sultan title simply means "mother of a prince" in the show (Hürrem triumphantly calls herself a haseki only after she got the harem, because the narrative wanted to make the impression that any major victory Hürrem got she had to fight for or "deserve" somehow.) and Hürrem being the wife of the sultan only gives it an extra punch, so probably that's why that's the case. In the show's hierarchy, yes, Hürrem had to bow to them by the rules. (otherwise I don't think she would, IMO, since she didn't bow to Mahidevran after the wedding, because she's practically a step above her. And Hürrem is a person that would demand her rights in the hierarchy. I doubt she would hold back even against SS's sisters if she were truly above them.) As for Ibrahim, I'm not sure here, either. We had them both bow just a little to each other. On one hand, Hürrem has the privilege to be a free woman, unlike Ibrahim, but on the other, Ibrahim is the Grand Vezier, the second most important person in the divan after the sultan. Whatever it is, that position clearly demands respect. But Hürrem is SS's legal wife and is a sultana and that also demands respect. Maybe that's why they both bow to each other, but who is above who, I can't say for sure. (see how Mahi and Ibro also both bow to each other out of respect for one another, but here it's more possible for Ibro to be above Mahi or for them to be equal - at least both aren't free? The show's hierarchy can get so confusing at times.)
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(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Defne’s blue gown and blue lace kaftan in 4x32 (requested by @therealhaseki)
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(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Hürrem Sultan’s blue gown and gold kaftan in 2x09 (requested by @therealhaseki)
#Muhteşem Yüzyıl#Magnificent Century#mcedit#Hürrem Sultan#Hurrem Sultan#Muhtesem Yuzyil#mc#wspaniałe stulecie#weloveperioddrama#perioddramaedit#costumeedit#costumes#costume edit#costume drama#costume set#costume series#Almost Every Costume Per Episode#historical drama#Know Your Place#Awkward-Sultana#requests
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(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Defne Sultan’s blue gown and blue lace kaftan in 4x31 (requested by @therealhaseki)
#Muhteşem Yüzyıl#Magnificent Century#mcedit#perioddramaedit#weloveperioddrama#period drama#perioddrama#Defne Sultan#The Last Days of the Great Sultana#requests#Muhtesem Yuzyil#wspaniałe stulecie#costumeedit#costumes#costume edit#costume drama#costume set#costume series#Almost Every Costume Per Episode#historical drama#Yasemin Allen#Awkward-Sultana
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