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ladyloveandjustice Ā· 1 year ago
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Spring 2023 Anime Overview: Oshi no Ko
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Spoiler free premise: A doctor in a small town is a fan of a sixteen-year-old idol Ai Hoshino. But then Ai shows up with a secret pregnancy. Now heā€™s going to have to figure out how to deal with her secret and safeguard her from obsessive fans as he helps her give birthā€¦
Spoiler for the entire first super long episode twist premise under the cut:
ā€¦that is, until the doctor is murdered by Aiā€™s stalker and reincarnates as Aqua, one of the twin children Ai gives birth to. The other twin, Ruby, is also a reincarnated soul. She was a former patient of the doctorā€™s, a twelve-year-old who was a huge fan of Ai before dying of terminal illness. Both twins are unaware of the otherā€™s former identity, but they both enjoy their new lease on life and come to love Ai all the more.
All seems well (I mean well for the twins, that is, not for the viewer who has to grapple with all this bizarre and creepy premise) until the same stalker that murdered the doctor murders Ai herself. Aqua realizes his father/Aiā€™s secret lover must have leaked Aiā€™s location to the stalker on purpose. The problem is that Ai never told Aqua and Ruby who their father was. So Aqua vows to track down his father and kill the man for what he did to Ai, whatever the cost. After growing into a teenager, he gets more involved in the entertainment industry and begins his search for his motherā€™s true killer in earnest.
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Yeah, thatā€™s a lot isnā€™t it? And it probably doesnā€™t help when I tell you that before he becomes Aqua, the doctor basically admits he, an adult man, wouldnā€™t turn down a date from the sixteen year old Ai, prompting the nurse to call him a lolicon (because anime will always insist on using that phrase where they should say ā€˜pedophile/ephebophile'). Or that baby Aqua refuses to breastfeed with Ai, but his twelve-year-old-girl-in-a-past-life twin happily does so with a huge, lascivious grin. (Thereā€™s also a discussion where Aqua says ā€˜heā€™ll let it slideā€™ when he learns Ruby was a girl in her past life too, sheā€™s like ā€˜wow so great I was born a girl so I can enjoy mama's/Ai's breastsā€ and heā€™s like ā€œno itā€™s not okay actuallyā€ and you just have to sit back and realize this is a conversation youā€™re watching on TV. This is where your life has bought you. )
Why did you keep watching, you ask me when I say these things? Well, it was well-made and engrossing. The animation was great, the pace was snappy, and Ai was instantly endearing. Plus everyone was talking about it endlessly on a discord I belong to, and they said after the first episodes the weirdness of the reincarnation angle becomes less important, the horny baby antics go away, and it becomes more of a straightforward murder mystery and a intriguing exploration of the entertainment industry.
And thatā€™s pretty much true. The show goes out of the way to handwave Aquaā€™s past life by saying going through puberty and infantile amnesia means he now doesnā€™t know where he starts and the other dude begins anymore, and he essentially feels like a teenager.
Where Oshi no Ko is truly compelling is itā€™s exploration of the predatory entertainment industry and the twisted misogyny and parasociality of idol fandom.
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It makes some basic, but very needed, points. It points out that fans who freak out over 'their' idols having a relationship and blame them for it are gross, and the industry that puts them in a box is gross. This is very basic stuff, but still underdiscussed in anime. A lot of anime pretend all is well for an idol since the anime industry itself makes bank off idols. So it was satisfying to see to see a character scream ā€˜You all fall in love with idols, it's selfish to say idols can't fall in love! You take out all your anger on women because you don't have a girlfriend!" at the endless twitter comments saying it was "expected" that Ai was killed for ā€˜betrayingā€™ her fans. It's also clear the author did a lot of research on the entertainment industry and has a lot to share. A lot of what he has to share is really interesting, and I appreciate that in his interviews he wanted to make sure Americans understand that Japanese actors and idols donā€™t have unions and it leaves them open to even more exploitation.
(Even the bizarre premise of the anime is nod to a gross ā€œjokeā€ idol fans make- a lot of 2channers apparently joke about wanting to ā€œbe rebornā€ as their favorite idolā€™s child whenever thereā€™s a marriage announcement. However, it feels like the premise is rooted a lot in shock value...)
At the same time, Oshi no Ko doesnā€™t really go as hard as people act like it does. Itā€™s not Perfect Blue, and it pulls its punches. It still goes for easy answers sometimes, and whatā€™s worse, easy answers that lionize its obnoxious protagonist. Never is this more apparent that the cyberbullying arc.
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First, letā€™s be clear- the cyberbullying arc focuses on a reality show actor, a girl named Akane, being driven to attempt suicide after a bunch of internet detractors harass her over something she did on the show (that the producers pressured her into doing in the first place). However, Aqua saves her at the last minute.
Hana Kimura lost her life in a very similar incident just a few months before this arc in the manga was published and the authorā€™s spoken about it on record. Hana was a pro-wrestler who was on the reality show Terrace House, and what happened to her is the same thing in broad strokes, only she didnā€™t get a convenient rescue. But nobody bothered to contact Hanaā€™s family about any of this, so Hanaā€™s mother was blindsided when she heard about it, and claims some of the hate messages in the anime are identical to the ones Hana received in real life. She pleaded that "Because it raises important issues, I would like to support a work like Oshi no Ko. Ā However, I don't think it needs to be done in a way that makes people Ā who have actually been victimized on social media suffer when they see it.ā€.
Oshi no Ko fans, having just watched an arc about the serious consequences of internet harassment, were of course respectful to the grieving mother of a harassment victim- nah, they harassed Hanaā€™s mom for criticizing the show. Another example of the incredible media literacy of anime fans.
All of that was already not a great look for the manga and show, and I think the kind thing to do would have been to contact the family before telling this story. But even if that wasnā€™t a thing, I didnā€™t like how this arc was handled. After Akane is saved by Aqua, he leaks her attempted suicide to the press. Though thereā€™s a mention that this unethical, heā€™s never really taken to task or confronted with the fact this violation of her privacy could have led to another (potentially successful!) suicide attempt. Then he talks to the director, reminds him that Akane is a teenager and adults should protect children, the director has a change of heart. Aqua's given permission to release footage of the cast being friends, the harassment dies down and Akane immediately gets better offscreen, because thatā€™s how trauma and depression works!
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God, ā€˜depression is NBD! You recover quickly!ā€™ is one of my biggest fiction pet peeves. Considering how despicable the producers were to Hana IRL, the whole storyline wrapping up like this wasn't just sloppy and lazy, it was insulting.
Rather than explore with the actual messy fallout this would realistically have for Akane, it just had Aqua get to be the edgy savior who was In the Right even though his actions were horrible and could have had catastrophic consequences. Also the ā€˜adults should protect kidsā€™ moral felt weak when Hana and many other entertainers who hurt themselves after being mistreated by fans and the industry were adults. Did they not deserve to be protected?
And I guess it sums up a lot of my problems with the show. It's painstakingly researched and talks about interesting stuff (though sometimes one character has to become an exposition machine just so we don't miss ANY of the author's research, which can feel awkward). It has some interesting and complex main female characters ā€¦ but 3/4s of them have some romantic connection to Aqua, which grates. Itā€™s more honest about the idol industry than most anime, but also sometimes pulls its punches when it comes to exploring actual mental illness and industry abuse.
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'Aqua is the smartest and all the girls are sooo into himā€™ gets pretty annoying. Two girls are already in love with him, and even without the really unnecessary ā€˜was a pedophile in a past lifeā€™ baggage, he barely has a personality. Aaaand thereā€™s how we have to listen to him muse about whether he was in love with his mom. Aaaand there's the looming threat that the next girl to fall in love with him will be his sister, since she muses she was in love with the doctor in her past life.
Once sis mentioned that, I started wondering if I should even come back to season 2. Leaning towards ā€˜noā€™ right now (definitely not if the manga really doesā€¦that). I donā€™t regret watching ONK- it was interesting, well animated and produced, and the theme song is a certified bop- but itā€™s also not something I could ever recommend to anyone. Itā€™s the most fraught show Iā€™ve watched in a long time, and in the end, Iā€™m not sure all of its weird parts add up to a satisfying, truly subversive story. Ā Itā€™s a mess, but time will tell if itā€™s an intriguing enough mess for me to come back to.
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alo-officialgf Ā· 9 months ago
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it's looking a lot like an avengers poster...
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edgepunk Ā· 2 years ago
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yeah yeah I saw him
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also mangaverse
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hotmess-exe Ā· 2 months ago
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somebody pray for me, i'm starting that awful jd vance book today
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youwouldtreatittenderly Ā· 2 years ago
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I've had similar thoughts about the way father figures are portrayed in the series, but this is the first time I've seen someone else talk about it.
Give Harry to me, Hagrid, Iā€™m his godfather, Iā€™ll look after him.
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spelldealer Ā· 4 months ago
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river--ghost Ā· 3 months ago
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damn
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platoapproved Ā· 5 months ago
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ā€” Do you want to hear my story? ā€” Yes.
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ptrckjcne Ā· 2 years ago
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time to shot two red bulls and write some nonsense
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poorly-drawn-mdzs Ā· 4 months ago
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Who put these kids here?
[First]Ā PrevĀ <ā€“-> Next
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saint-jussy Ā· 2 years ago
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Real talk...being born and raised in ā€œcommunistā€ China didnā€™t make me communist in the slightest but getting into the French Revolution has made me a full blown socialist reading actual academic leftist theory
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choccy-milky Ā· 1 month ago
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feral protective seb ā¤ļøā€šŸ”„šŸ„° (( from part 2 of my oneshot which is now up! ao3 / wattpad))
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uncanny-tranny Ā· 8 months ago
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I think it's incredibly important to remind folks on testosterone or folks who want to reverse patterned baldness about their options, but man, does it sometimes suck wondering how much of our insecurities about our hair stem from backwards beliefs that to strive towards beauty is not only preferable but "makes you good."
As someone with a rather masculinized body pre-medical transition, patterned baldness has always seemed neutral. Hair is incredibly important (hell, much of my own energy is spent on my hair because I like it), but the pressure to have hair, to have hair the "right way" is something that I absolutely loathe.
I'm not here to judge people who don't want patterned hair loss or baldness, I'm here to say that those traits will never make you lesser. Not only is it neutral, but it is also just as worthy and beautiful.
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lux-vega Ā· 1 year ago
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This is their relationship in a nutshell
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images-that-are-only-cursed Ā· 1 year ago
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demaparbat-hp Ā· 2 months ago
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Oh, Lala...
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