#there is some pretty rough antisemitism and racism

[theonekierce]

whats crime and cricket? ur fanart looks interesting

ah thank u! 'crime and cricket' is the fandom tag for the Raffles series by E.W. Hornung, since the character name is difficult to use as a tag lmao It's mostly short stories with one novel, all narrated by Bunny who is the old school friend turned partner and accomplice of AJ Raffles, a gentleman thief who uses his fame as an amateur cricket player as a cover for his secret life as a burglar! They were sort of based on Holmes and Watson if they were criminals instead of detectives, but there's a lot more to them than that and they're really compelling stories that i have become completely obsessed with

if you wanna read any, Raffles Redux is my go-to as its full of annotations with extra context and illustrations etc, but the books are all public domain so they're easy enough to find online copies of. I would definitely reccomend reading these in order since theyre pretty serialised - but if you're not sure, the first 'The Ides Of March' and third 'Gentlemen Vs Players' are good intro stories for getting the feel of them

Also, im only about half-way through the first story but i am obligated to boost my own comic book adaptation ive been working on >:)

[kazimirovich]

all i can say forever

i'm jewish. as a child i moved from a rural town where my family saw acts of rage and hate, emigrated from a country with a horrifying history with jews. you know the one, though there are many. i'm 31 now and i have seen and experienced antisemitism my whole life, in the many places i've lived, to varying degrees. not that i should need to qualify this before everything i have to say - but i know what that looks and feels like. in my life there have been times at which i have been in danger. i choose to stay out of danger in all the ways i was taught. (part of that is not moving into someone else's house uninvited (more in a sec))

(well-meaning?) people want me to have a relationship with israel. they are very invested in assuming i have some connection to this shifting space, this project. they associate my german jewishness with a place i have never been and never felt. home, for me, is the uncle i haven't seen in too long, the ailing brother of my mother, the same red nose. it's fresh sheets hung over dry summer grass, it's bavarian farmland, it's thick liptauer on pumpernickel bread warmed over the wood stove. it's my grandmother's dining room and rough fenceposts, borders we disrespected as kids. home is also here and there and where my family is, where my friends are, where i've built myself.

in a geopolitical sense, it is clear that the antisemitic position is to sequester jews into a partitioned state conceived of by non-jews after the sunset of our most recent attempted decimation. antisemitic, to tell jews "move here, be at home in this space of constant war. impose war on others. fight for a tenuous link to an ancestry you've never seen or studied." in a religious sense, sort of a key feature of judaism since the second exile is that - we're in exile. this is an orthodox argument, but i have to admit that rabbinical discourse is pretty convincing. the secular establishment of the israeli state in an attempt to accelerate any so-called redemption has left us at a point where i really don't know what hope we have for that to occur. if you believe in god, how can you believe they are looking down at us, impressed

because beyond theoretical or spiritual reasons, the bloodlust, the vengefulness, the racism, the violation of law (i know that laws are agreed upon, are broken all the time by those who grant themselves impunity), the evil of this continuance, the evil which grinds babies and text and memory, gnashes it all in its droning machinery, its cold horror and inhumane (unhuman) practice, seemingly perfected... it is obvious to anyone with a single thought that it is an ethnic cleansing. the forcible "movement" (murder) of people of one group from land people of another group want. is ethnic cleansing. we are watching it in real time, and the world stands by and in many cases, it endorses, it beats and imprisons those who are brave enough to stand up to it, it rewards cowardly men in war rooms who having read fukuyama and arendt and maybe even voegelin conveniently forget themselves, because they can afford to, and wave their hands and make calls and decimate entire families cities sovereignties. and liberalism - that fickle ideology whose sole search is for the justification of atrocity - sends its thoughts and prayers, and emphasizes how just horrible both sides are, and conveniently forgets the histories that have led each "side" to this. convenient.

and i can't do anything about it. i can perfectly articulate every well-thought-out argument, i can cry the most frustrated tears from the well of my chest and i can scream that this isn't right, because it isn't, but nobody fucking cares. those who matter have decided for those who don't.

if you align yourself with israel, or feel any sympathy toward the supposed plight of active settlers (not a neutral spot to be in, by the way - another rational argument), i hope you know how thoroughly you've been manipulated. how successful the project of those with the power to decide we don't matter has been. you and i don't matter. so-called free thinkers meme. you fucking idiot. you genocidal maniac.

not putting this under a cut. fuck you. read it all and remember my jewish name and keep it far out of your mouth the next time you tell someone why the people you've told me are my neighbors deserve a flattening.

[thefirstknife]

Since a lot of people have been talking about possible antisemitism and racism in Bungie's writing I wanted to add something that always bothered me.

I think that Saint-14 as a character is at least influenced by some pretty anti Slavic stereotypes. He's the only major character of Slavic origin (accent) and he just so happen to embody the stereotype of "Slavic brute". He's strong and kills hordes of enemies not showing almost any remorse. And the Season of the Splicer even managed make it worse! Even when he's portrayed as having some deeper thoughts and agency he's still constructed as being unable to be subtle with his words (despise speaking English)

I really like Saint as a character but it's unpleasant to see that he's clearly created as a stereotype

I respectfully disagree. I've seen this line of thinking around A LOT, especially during Splicer, and I don't understand where it comes from outside of people being unable to treat non-native English speakers right. Source: I am Slavic. Not American with Slavic heritage, I am a Slavic person living in a Slavic country and English is not my native language.

Saint is as far away from a brute as possible. Ever since he's settled down in the City, he is dedicated to protecting, not attacking. He feeds birds and sings songs with the children of the City. He dedicated his time to learn to bake cookies for the Eliksni and was considerate to find a recipe that is specifically for Eliksni. He fights when he has to, but has largely settled down and would rather plough fields and plug holes in the wall than fight. He is incredibly emotional and emotionally intelligent and understanding. He is aware of his own and other people's emotions and he's open about it unapologetically.

He is so non-aggressive to the point of many in the community, including big lore youtubers, wishing for Osiris to DIE, just so they can see Saint being angry and aggressive enough to go on another bloody rampage. Because Saint is too tame for them. Too passive, too peaceful. Where is he a brute right now?

Saint has been "brutish" before Season of Dawn, because we never saw him anywhere outside of a couple of lines. He essentially didn't exist as a character until Season of Dawn and the only thing we knew about him was that he was a legendary Titan who went on a crusade against the Eliksni and killed many of them. That's definitely brutish!

When we met him in Dawn, we met him in the middle of his crusade, at the time where he lost countless innocent people to Eliksni in the middle of the horrible conditions of the Dark Age. He is... rough, and angry. Reasonably. He just got to Mercury to save civilians and he lost them and he almost died. He thinks in black and white terms; Eliksni bad, humans good. He is harsh and lost.

But, that's when we find him in a bad position and when he's yelling on comms because he's under fire. He also speaks in broken English and with an accent. People are prejudiced when they hear it and immediately assume less subtlety and less eloquence. That's not on Bungie. That's on the prejudiced audience.

In written text, he speaks perfectly fine. Observe this and this. The issue arises when he speaks out loud (with an accent) or when he's talking to friends casually or when he's making jokes. I don't know why people expect him to speak like he's giving a speech at all times. He can speak perfectly fine, but for non-native speakers, that can be exhausting. He is allowed to drop the eloquence in a more relaxed situation.

Pointing out Splicer is incredibly strange to me because in Splicer he made the biggest possible turning point when he was confronted with how other people see him as a brute. The cutscene where Mithrax tells a story about how the Eliksni view him as a monster shook him to his core. He has been on a path of redemption ever since and dedicated his time to gently protecting Eliksni. He even started learning their language and culture.

I would understand saying that Saint started off as a brute, because he did. But Bungie pulled the biggest flip of a switch on us when they showed us that Saint is actually a huge softie, a gentle man who was pushed to war only to protect, someone who lives for peace and quiet. He is good-natured, trusting, perceptive, kind and empathic.

How is this man a brute (this is just a small selection of his idle lines):

Food reserves are dwindling. New land must be ploughed. I can do this! / Everyone is so accommodating, I- I will think of ways to give back to them. / Shaxx, ugh. Glory is for the selfish. We fight to end the fighting. / To hear the children laughing. This is the peace we fight for. / The city breathes, ships flow through its veins. There is life here, and it is thriving. / I walked the City walls, plugged holes. Every small act brings us closer to peace. / The Traveller teaches us in these quiet moments. We are not defined by our scars. / The Light does not make us heroes, friend. Power is only good when it is used for good. / I am glad to see birds still nest in these old walls. / This life can take its toll. Come to me if you need to talk. / Yesterday, a child came to me. He carried a painted shield of paper. I turned to him and he threw the shield at my head! A young Titan, I love it! [laughing]

Saint-14 is the gentlest man in the whole damn setting. Bungie said "fuck toxic masculinity in particular" when they decided to treat us to a Saint so kind that people in-universe are surprised to learn that's THE Saint-14, the one who fought at Six Fronts and led a crusade against Eliksni. Eva's assessment of this:

"That's right," he said, spreading a little more birdseed. "It is a pleasure to meet you, Eva."

We sat a little longer together, watching the pigeons and the clouds, before I finally had to excuse myself to go back to my work.

As I said, I'd heard the legend of Saint-14 before. Many legends of remarkable Guardians make them seem like mythical figures, so far removed from anything the civilians of the City will ever see or experience. The legendary Saint-14 does not seem that way to me at all.

In fact, I think he is a very nice young man.

Saint is deeply ashamed and regretful of his violent past. Because he DID have a violent past, much like pretty much every Lightbearer. Saint and Shaxx discuss this, as well as Shaxx and Mithrax. But as much as he fought and as powerful he is, Saint does NOT enjoy war or fighting. He endures it because he knows that sometimes you must take up arms to protect those who can't protect themselves, but if he had the option to be sure that the City will stay safe without his aid, he would hang up his armour forever.

I've talked a lot about how much I appreciate that Bungie took a big powerful manly man who went on rampaging crusade before and presented him to us as a gentle and kind person who loves children and birds, who prefers domestic tasks over war and who is deeply emotional and thrives on kindness. It's quite strange to see people saying that he's a "Slavic brute stereotype." He is literally the opposite of it.

If there are specific instances in lore that someone thinks are stereotypical and brutish, I would love to see them so I can address them in context. I'm also not sure what "subtle with his words" means exactly, but if there are examples of this that you'd like addressed, I'm happy to investigate. Bungie is obviously not perfect so there could be instances where they messed up, though I can't currently recall any in regards to Saint and the fact that he's Slavic.

[tacticalhimbo]

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[bonestructureandcontempt]

So...a couple hours into the game and I just gotta say, I love Jess and Soph. They're just terrific. Like, everyone's entitled to their opinion of course of course, but fuck anybody who complains about them or their banter being annoying in their reviews. That's just me getting my feelings out though.

Machinegames and their low-key brilliant writing comes through again with the Blazkowicz sisters. Because even though they're still Wolfenstein protagonists who are put there to annihilate Nazis without a thought and they kill as often and viciously as their father, they're still just fun-loving young women. And I love that the game goes out of its way to show this to you.

Now, I've always commended The New Order and The New Colossus for the way they don't pull punches in its depiction of the Nazis and what their specific brand of fascism looks like when it takes hold of the countries they conquer. All of it - from the ethnic cleansing, weird racial psuedoscience, destruction of cultures, police states, even down to just boring, mundane, Banality of Evil type stuff. If you somehow never received good education of just who Nazis are, Wolfenstein will give you a pretty thorough primer through the filter of pulp sci-fi. And then you will kill them and it will feel great. That's always been my position - it's bleak as hell, but there's catharsis if you stomach the rough parts.

On the other hand, I've seen some valid criticism of TNO and TNC that perhaps the games indulge in those dark truths a little too hard, almost to the point of torture porn. And I don't begrudge anybody who feels that way, this Nazi shit hits close to home for a lot of people. Hell, if you remember, TNC came out just a couple months after the scourge of Neo-Nazism showed itself in Charlottesville, VA, claiming the life of Heather Hayer and generally just scaring the shit out of us all except for the ghouls of the American right, the President included. Here came Wolfenstein to hold up a mirror to America and say "I defy you to say the fantasy we portray is all that different from your reality."

Anyway.

I bring all that up to say that I appreciate Youngblood for assuming its audience already knows Nazis are evil and lets its bubbly yet rough-and-tumble heroines just kill them. And yet they are not quite like their father. B.J. never got to grow up like his daughters did. In a seemingly un-fascist America, in a home without domestic violence born from racism and antisemitism, relatively free from terror. Jess and Soph did, and it shows. And I love that. I love the contrast within the generations of Blazkowicz, fighting the same war through very different entry points. And I don't care what anybody says, complaints about microtransactions and loot shooter mechanics and all, it is remarkable to me that Youngblood still feels like the Wolfenstein I adore even with its more lighthearted tone. They did it again.

...And not for nothing, picking up ammo isn't an absolute nightmare in this game. Amazing.

[nicestpamkale]

This isn't a dig at you, my friend- but I suppose I should have been more clear, so let me make it more clear;

I don't believe that, actively, JK Rowling is anti-semetic.

However,

I DO believe that the goblins are antisemitic caricatures.

(This is the tl;dr but it's also posted at the bottom.)

Revolutionary concept, but art and the artist are not typically one and the same. (I'm sure nobody in HP discourse has heard THIS one before, but let me convince you.) On the surface they speak the same language, but if you look at it you'll find that the art one creates more frequently mirrors the subconscious. Things that the people themselves would be abhorred by if they realized what they've written.

Is this an issue with JK Rowling's writing? Yes. Absolutely yes. But I don't think when she wrote the goblins and their lore that she was actually thinking about the implications of their history. Arguably, when she introduced them, they might not have even HAD a history. A lot of the things we know are all retroactive because she's horrible at writing.

Now I could be wrong, it's just my reading of her actions and pre-established beliefs! But I thoroughly believe that she probably had good intentions with goblins- she probably thought she was doing something inspired. After all, banking (especially the banking seen in Harry Potter) is a rough job that needs a lot of hands and in a world where goblins can't really do the thing they usually do, they need a new thing, right?

On top of that, in the process of all things, she was probably studying a little bit about nazi Germany and- well, we all know the kind of caricature jews obtained in that time period specifically. So it was in her brain, banking, and goblins, and she probably went 'fuck it, I'll just put them together and have a sick-ass bank cart ride.' (Maybe moreso in however JK Rowling Thinks though)

And now we have a very unfortunate set of Jewish Caricatures running around that probably were not intended to cross.

As a fantasy reader and writer, you come to expect mild racism here and there and it's very obvious when it's intentional and when it's not. (Most cases; it's not. :'( ) This is a mistake that I can see any fantasy author making, save for the ones going out of their way with every breath to make it not the case.

Tangentially, any time you have to criticise fantasy, you actually have to look around at the things surrounding it. The fantasy genre in particular is heavily, heavily steeped in old-fashioned racism. Sometimes! (Like with Tolkien!) This is the point. People are supposed to be racist so that they can learn it's inhibiting them.

A lot of times though, things are done a way because it's how it was at the beginning and, in the beginning, everyone had to look at what culture was like; and most writers came away with the thought that Europeans were the only people with a culture. Everyone else was savage or some kind of immortal being of beauty. (All this is such a deep dive that I can not bother to get into but trust me there is a legion of writers who See This and are going :/ as a day job.)

Lovingly, fuck no I'm not reading whatever a white person wants to write about Native American culture it is always bad. It's always terrible. Jesus Christ I know what they're TRYING to do but HOLY SHIT PLEASE GOD-

Am I defending this a little too hard? Maybe. I won't fight it if we have more solid evidence than caricatures, but I don't believe she is actively antisemitic so we shouldn't be calling her as such. If anything, we should use this as an example of why you should dissect things and inspect them before you write them.

Anyways, tl:dr; Her goblins can be antisemitic caricatures without her herself being antisemitic and I know we want more reasons to hate her but we GOTTA acknowledge this, folks. Let's look for something else if transphobia isn't enough for you. (Personally? That's enough for me.)

Anyways, these are pretty much my full, horribly edited thoughts on the matter, hopefully more concise than my original statement which. Looking back, doesn't get into the stuff I wanted to talk about. (I was afraid.) I will reiterate, though- I don't care if you hate her because she's a transphobe and you believe her to be antisemitic. It's not like she's a better person without it.

This is moreso an explanation as to why I don't buy into it. I've gone on too long though so Imma head out °•◇☆◇•°~

What is The Jewish Consensus on the Harry Potter game

I don't know that there is one, if you're wondering about the issue with the goblins I will pull this graphic up from a old friend on here went by the url of JewishMagpie, learned tons from her since I'm not Jewish or anything it was good to bounce questions and thoughts off her.

These three should cover where she would stand on this and likely a fair sized portion of the Jewish population, but I'm not going to speak for them.

She hated the "Jewish coded" nonsense with a passion.

Incredibly diverse group of people, different sects and all make the protestant church look united under one banner so there's not going to be one united take on it.

Old joke about how if you ask 3 Rabbi's the same question you'll likely walk away with 4 or 5 wildly different answers.

This might also add some clarity to that issue, that and give you a laugh.

It's just the one now, and he did his aliyah to Israel since the taliban showed back up so after thousands of years there are no more Jewish people in Afghanistan.

I do believe the majority consensus lines up with Mags there, at least for the folks that even know what is going on ehre.