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THE PERIPHERAL: 1x08: "The Creation of a Thousand Forests": Flynne's plan and the new stub…?

Does Flynne's plan make sense? Is it possible? I *thought* I followed the genius of Flynne's "create a stub" plan, but have discovered some flaws in my thinking.

My take on her plan…

I forget how it was described in the series, but once 2099 London creates a stub, the passage of time in the stub is locked in sync with the passage of time in 2099. So, let's say Flynne returns to 2032 Clanton from 2099 London at 12pm in Clanton and 2pm in London. When she puts the headset on one hour later to jump back to London, it's 1pm in 2032 Clanton and 3pm in 2099 London—one hour later in both timelines. I feel like there's a term for this phenomenon in the show and/or book, but I cannot recall it, so if it comes up again, I'll use "time lock" or "time locked".

Based on exposition throughout the season, the RI can create a stub beginning at any point in its own history, apparently within some limited range of years back from the present. When Flynne uses the Stub Portal in the finale, on the table interface we see a central timeline with stubs that branch at 2028 and 2038 that appear to "currently" be in 2032 and 2063. We don't get a view of the complete timeline, but we do not see any stubs branching from stubs, only from the center "trunk". When Flynne creates her new stub, she taps the end of the 2028-2032 stub. I believe, because the trunk and its stubs are time locked, the new stub can only begin at the "current" present time in 2032. So, the stub she created—let's call it FF, for Flynne Fisher's, and the one the RI created, OG—is a duplicate of the OG 2032 stub we've been watching so far and has an identical history, including interactions with 2099 and Flynne's remote visit to 2099 London during which she creates FF 2032.

This means that in both FF 2032 and OG 2032, there is a Flynne Fisher body waiting for its consciousness to return from 2099. Once she wills her return in 2099, she wakes in both 2032s. However, before leaving 2099, she meets with Lowbeer and asks her to contact her in one hour in OG 2032, the stub for which parties in 2099 have coordinates. The content of Lowbeer's message is not as important as the message itself, which is a flag for OG Flynne that indicates she is in OG 2032, the stub that is observed and accessible by the RI. it is in this timeline that OG Flynne has Conner shoot her to demonstrate to 2099 that she and the information in her head are no longer a threat to the RI, leading to Cherise putting the kibosh on the silo detonation.

"Meanwhile" in FF 2032, when FF Flynne does *not* receive a message from Lowbeer one hour after leaving her, she knows that she is safe in the FF 2032 stub, hidden from the RI. She shares this news with Conner, so that he knows he's not the Conner that has kill Flynne. In that meeting with Lowbeer in 2099 before returning to her two bodies, she learns from Lowbeer how to neutralize the militia nuts planning to detonate the silo. Burton and company execute, saving Clanton and pushing off the FF Jackpot. It is from the FF timeline that she returns to 2099 and begins to work with Lowbeer to unlock the secrets in her head and use them against Cheriseand the RI and perhaps save her branch from the Jackpot.

Sounds great, right? Well, I thought so, but, there are some problems…

I really like my theory, but…

1. Does it make sense that Cherise would abort the silo detonation after Flynne openly threatens to come back at her from a hidden stub?

When she creates the FF stub Flynne explicitly tells Cherise that she will be gunning for her from a hidden stub. So, when the RI conveniently records the death of OG Flynne in OG 2032, and Lowbeer claims credit for it, why would Cherise buy it and call off the OG Jackpot escalation?

Well, I can think of two possible explanations, but both seem like they require some heavy lifting…

1.a. Somehow, Cherise does not know or believe that Flynne was in cahoots with Lowbeer before she created the FF stub (meaning Flynne got the location of the Stub Portal from…the Klept?). If that's the case, Cherise has no reason to believe that anyone in 2099 London knows about the new stub except herself. So, when Lowbeer explains that the Met is responsible for killing OG Flynne (somehow?—does the Met already, so quickly, have influence in stubs?), the RI have to accept it in good faith and call off their Jackpot acceleration plan out of the goodness of their heart, but we know that they are preserving an invaluable resource, a living lab with decades of experimentation (even though the Stub Portal timeline doesn't actually reflect that).

1.b. Cherise knows or assumes that Flynne and the Met are in cahoots, but has to accept Flynne's death and Lowbeer's credit for it as legitimate for appearances' sake. The balance of power in 2099 being what it is, she does not want to call out Lowbeer, publicly expose their stub tech and b-mod research, and likely start a war with the Met and Klept. She, and they, have to continue with their clandestine shenanigans while maintaining a front of cooperation, or at least, non-aggression.

2. The result of this stub creation does not line up with Flynne's convo with Conner.

FLYNNE: There'll be new versions of us there. Ones that Cherise will have nothing to do with. We'd be safe there. CONNER: But dead in our own world. FLYNNE: Unless I'm already gone. Then she'd have no reason to blow up that silo.

This makes it sound like the new stub would begin before the RI began its behavior modification and haptic experimentation. I believe that means it should be a new stub that branches from the central timeline, and according to Cherise and Grace, it would have to be several years earlier ("decades?"), before the OG stub forks off. However, based on what we can see of Flynne's use of the Stub Portal that is not the nature of the FF stub.

*Maybe* this was a lie that Flynne felt she needed to tell Conner to get him to agree to kill her? But I don't think so. Conner seems to grasp the rules and constraints of the timeline game quickly and accurately.

3. Flynne's friends and family exist in both the OG and FF stubs.

In order for FF Flynne to move forward with Lowbeer without interference from her own well-meaning OG posse (now mourning the loss of OG Flynne to a 2099 assassination), who are aware of Milagros Coldiron as a front for 2099 London, 2099 London would have to disable their remote access and communication. Cold turkey. Do-able, but remember, Flynne's Forever Fab friends hacked head to head vs. Ash and Ossian. Motivated by Flynne's murder, I suspect her people will find a way to fight their way back to 2099 and make someone pay.

It's possible this is a storytelling feature, not a bug, tho. Cuz how awesome would it be to have Flynne's OG entourage team up with FF Flynne's? TWO Conners? And haptically linked? Add two Burtons and Flynne and they can form Peripheral Voltron! =)

But it seems messy, right?

These are the three most disruptive or inconsistent consequences of my theory that came to mind. At worst, it doesn't make sense. At best, it's inconsistent and needs to be reconciled with lies or a decent amount of exposition. This leads me to believe that I've misunderstood Flynne's plan, her words with Conner, Lowbeer, and Cherise, and her actions at the Stub Portal facility.

Back to the virtual drawing board…

Is what Flynne described to Conner actually possible? Can she create a stub in which Cherise and the RI never began their haptic tech laboratory? And if she can, how does that lead to getting Cherise to call off the silo detonation because of her death? And how does a Flynne with all of her experiences thus far return to 2099 to work with Lowbeer?

Regardless, I love this show and need a season 2 to continue entertaining and schooling me. Of course, I will keep thinking on it, and hopefully make some time for a rewatch over the holidaze.

Keep on keepin' on~

P.S. 

QUESTION: What is the action that creates or opens a new stub?

MY ANSWER: I think it can be something as simple as sending an email from 2099 London that lands in someone's spam folder. Or maybe a nonsense text message from an unknown number. Or flipping a bit Somewhere from zero to one or vice versa. The presence of information from 2099 in 2099's relative past "creates" a new timeline at the moment of its arrival, as reality will not abide a paradoxical violation of causality. I have "creates" in quotes because the timeline always existed, it's just that the moment of information transfer is when the 2099 London Prime first interacts with it.

QUESTION: How are the Stub Portals sync'd with the God Font?

MY ANSWER: Since the destruction of the Stub Portal results in the loss of the coordinates of the stub Flynne has just created, the portal must be air gapped, not connected to the RI or any other network. However, on activation by Flynne, the portal displayed the central timeline and existing stubs (including OG 2032). This means that the watches must sync with the God Font and/or RI network at some point. To do this, I believe one of the guard peripherals can be used to read and transmit any updates via remote connection.

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