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fcb-mv33 · 1 year ago
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Yes AD caused a lot of boos for max last year. But also towards other drivers and fans. F1 did act on this by launching an anti hate and abuse campaing. This year has been a lot better. Local organizers only organize a GP once a year. They are organizing an event, not counting hate comments on twitter. They could not foresee last years hate/booing (+racism lawsuits). And voodo magic to control everyone in a crowd does not exist. They did there best and this year has been lot better. Be at least a bit positive about that
See that’s just a lie lmao. The campaigns that f1 has created has never been to call out abuse of the drivers who will not give them positive attention for calling it out. They have only ever called out the abuse towards Lewis and Merc team members. Also you seem to miss my point about my issue not being the booing but the lack of call out from f1.
Max was abused for months after Abu Dhabi, his family received death threats after Brazil, his sister turned off her comments due to her sons..Max’s little nephews being abused. They never once called that out. They let Max take the brunt of 2021 and let him deal with the fans in those venues, let items be thrown at his car in Monza and let him listen to chants of fans calling Sophie a whore.
We never once saw f1 or the media call out the vile racism that Calum is constantly getting. This weekend was prime of that when he was abused for Max winning, for being Maxs mechanic and friend. We never saw f1 call out the sexist abuse Hannah received from lh and Merc fans in Zandvoort, and we never saw Lewis, George or Toto comment on it but you lot expect Max to comment at every boo Lewis receives. Yuki, Alex, Checo, and Daniel were all targeted, Yuki was receiving racist abuse but nobody cared. The Red Bull teams family members were targeted all last season, Adrian’s wife posted the horrid abuse she was receiving after austin and we saw F1 never call this out. I never saw the “We race as one” campaign come out for the Red Bull members.
I’m not going to be positive about any of this. F1 have done nothing to protect Max or his team and their family members. They only call out the abuse of certain drivers and they have turned their backs on Max and his team. I keep records of the times that the abuse has been called out and never has f1 or sky sports stood up for Max. Their online campaigns are only for certain drivers. They left Max to rot and take the abuse.
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alexi-01 · 2 years ago
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i think it’s disgusting that all of you are about stopping online abuse and worrying about mental health until it comes to red bull
it’s pretty funny how red bull and max never mentioned anyone by name on why they were boycotting sky but EVERYONE knew who it was, kinda proves how bad the comments he was saying was huh?
the one time max speaks more openly about his own mental health all of you act like you’re so above everyone else, when red bull employees speak up against the hate they get they “deserve it” and “why are you being so defensive” and you flood their twitters and instas with abuse, calum faces so much racial abuse on twitter because he stands up for himself, hannah faces so much sexist abuse and antisemitism because she’s amazing at her job, it’s amanda newey calling out journalists on twitter for acting like they know anything about how red bull employees are feeling and just getting flooded with hate in the mentions, it’s teds comments about yuki in zandvoort that made the conspiracy worse and led to the racist comments yuki had to face as well
teds comments, and sky’s in general, have been bad and against non british drivers for years. seb got treated like this, schumi got treated like this and now max is as well, so no red bull aren’t boycotting over one interview on one weekend, it’s the years long comments that entice people on the internet to say stupid shit towards red bull, it’s the way they are unable to have a sense of neutrality whilst commentating, especially as they don’t just provide coverage for the uk, they provide it all over the world
also it’s kinda pathetic how you lot are saying max is a “baby” or a “whiny brat” because other drivers, namely lewis, will still do interviews with people that disrespected them…. okay great they can do what they want but i believe all drivers can boycott interviews that they feel will disrespect them if they want to it’s not a fucking competition in who can stand disrespect the longest
gunther steiner avoids sky germany all the time over comments they make, renault boycotted ziggo for ages before they worked something out, these things happen
get over your double standards
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all-they-say-is-na-na-na · 7 years ago
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All They Say Is Na Na Na’s Favorite EPs of 2017
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#25. ‘1UL’ by Danny L Harle (Bubblegum Bass/Electropop)
PC Music has always toyed between commercial dance-pop and experimental music, but this seems to be most straight-forward approach the former. Even though it could be improved in some ways, the EP ‘1UL’ contains Danny L Harle’s strongest material. The title track could easily be a number one hit if promoted the right way, and his collaboration with Carly Rae Jepsen “Happy All the Time”, despite not featuring Carly herself on the vocals, still has all the charisma of any of her pop anthems. It would be interesting to see how would his music translate to a full-length release, but if this is a little teaser, we should not worry.
Highlights: “1UL”, “Happy All the Time”
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#24. 'Paradise' by ANOHNI (Art Pop/Electropop)
Last year, former Antony and the Johnson frontwoman ANOHNI released her debut solo album 'HOPELESSNESS', which was one of the most critically acclaimed albums of 2016, due its heavily political lyrical content and its production, handled by Oneohtrix Point Never and Hudson Mohawke. 'Paradise' is essentially a compilation B-sides from that album, which is mostly fine. The big single from this album is the title track, which is one of her best tracks under this moniker, but there are also some other nice tracks that, despite not being as good as the ones on her main album, are still worth a shot.
Let's hope she's not retiring
Highlights: "Paradise", "Jesus Will Kill You"
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#23. ‘Steve Lacy’s Demo’ by Steve Lacy (Hypnagogic Pop/Alternative R&B)
Even though Steve Lacy is only 19 years old (and 18 at the time when he released his debut EP) he already has a quite long list of collaborators. After becoming a member of neo-soul band The Internet in 2015, he went on to work with Isaiah Rashad, Kali Uchis, Tyler the Creator and even Kendrick Lamar on one of the highlights of his latest album ‘DAMN.’, the song “Pride”. But his debut EP ‘Steve Lacy’s Demo’ remains one of, if not his strongest work. Even though it is quite short and seemingly simple, it feels like a really strong take on the post-Mac DeMarco sound of vaguely-psychedelic lo-fi indie-pop. But Steve’s own sound feels more full overall due to his strong melodies and excellent voice. We really need a full length album from this guy pretty soon, by the way.
Highlights: “Dark Red”, “Some”
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#22. ‘Unalloyed, Unlicensed, All Night Long’ by Jesse Osborne-Lanthier (IDM)
The term “deconstructed club music” is thrown out way too easily these days, but it rarely ever feels accurate. Jesse-Osborne Lanthier’s latest EP for the Raster-Noton series, the last in their Unun series, is definitely “club” music, while simultaneously being challenging of its purpose and overall sound and aesthetic. Tracks like “Blackwell Dynonetics” or “Lick and a Promise” take elements from commercial EDM or trance, but doesn’t feel like a cliché, in fact, what Jesse does seems to be stripping it down to its most basic elements (like on “The Zika Slam”, where he takes that to its literal extreme) and it sounds like nothing else. Whether that is a “deconstruction” of typical club tropes is entirely based on the listener’s opinion, but one thing is certain, this EP actually sounds “fun” and promising for Jesse’s upcoming work.
Highlights: “Blackwell Dynonetics”, “Lick and a Promise”
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#21. ‘Sudan Archives’ by Sudan Archives (Folktronica/Art Pop)
Sudan Archives is the project of singer, songwriter, producer and violinist Brittney Denis Parks, and this is her proper debut under this moniker. Having been part of a rather conventional pop and R&B band in her teens, she decided to take her own path as an experimental electronic artist, taking inspiration from Sudanese music, specially its usage of pentatonic scales and fiddles, as well the usage of violin in a non-traditionally Western way. But the R&B and pop influences are still very present on the record, overall it sounds a midpoint between tUnE-yArDs' deconstructed folk and FKA twigs' electronic-soul music, and definitely presents a very promising future for the artist.
Highlights: "Come Meh Way", "Paid"
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#20. ‘Skin Companion EP II’ by Flume (Wonky/UK Bass)
Flume is one of the few producers who helped shaping the commercial club sound of the decade. But unlike all the other “chilltrap”/”future bass”/whatever producers, you can really tell when you are listening to a Flume song. And if his latest album ‘Skin’ was not enough, his companion EPs should not leave you a single doubt about it. The second one of those is probably the most “leftfield” out of them. Opening song “Enough” (feat. Pusha-T, delivering an excellent performance) is one of the most aggressive, jaw-dropping rap tracks that are closer to Death Grips than anything else. His other collaborations with Moses Sumney and indie-pop group Glass Animals have a more R&B-vibe which melts perfectly with the smooth production. It is dance music, it might get played in the radio, but it still feels unique. And extremely fun. Also, if you are not convinced about Flume’s greatness, just go to one of his shows. He really delivers.
Highlights: “Enough” (feat. Pusha-T), “Weekend” (feat. Moses Sumney)
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#19. ‘KILL’ by Nkisi (Afro-House/Acid Techno/Hardcore EDM)
The Belgian-Congolese, London-based producer Nkisi is one of the founding members of the Afro-diasporic collective NON, and despite releasing a lot of killer music throughout these past few years and delivering excellent DJ sets as well, she never released an actual EP until now. ‘KILL’ shows everything that makes her one of the most interesting producers as of lately. In this release, hard-hitting techno, house, hardcore dance music, trance, kuduro (and smooth organic sounds that sound influenced by Central-African folk music and coupé-decalé, as you can hear on the rhythmic title track) and even the often-forgotten genre of gabber coexist - and all of that actually sounds cohesive. And if you are a fan of dance music, it should be impossible to miss this one.
Highlights: “Parched Lips”, “Kill”
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#18. 'Tommy' by Klein (Sound Collage/Ambient Pop/Glitch)
By looking at this EP's cover (one of them, anyway) you might suppose this comes from PC Music... in a way, it kinda does, as the cover was made by Hannah Diamond. But, the music sounds nothing like it. At all. Having released music under NON Worldwide and Howling Owl, this is Klein's first release under Hyperdub... and doesn't sound like anything else ever done. While she has always done a very experimental take on the pop, R&B and gospel music she was raised with, this is absolutely unbelievable. One of the most mind-bending and occasionally disturbing releases of the year, probably the midpoint between Tim Hecker and like... Brandy. But still, completely unique.
Highlights: "Cry Theme", "Everlong"
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#17. 'All Bitches Die' by Lingua Ignota (Death Industrial/Modern Classical)
This is probably one of the most abrasive releases of the year, but also one of the most vulnerable and personal. This is Lingua Ignota's (the project of musician Kristin Hayter) second EP this year, and explores themes of domestic violence and abuse in a very raw, angsty yet emotional way. But it also has some of the most interesting music to come this year, a combination of loud industrial-noise similar to that of Pharmakon or Dreamcrusher, combined with piano-and-vocal-centered classical music. It is not very accessible for those who are not already into those genres of music, but it still is an incredible, one-of-its-kind records.
Highlights: "Woe to All (on the Day of My Wrath)", "Holy is the Name (of My Ruthless Axe)"
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#16. 'Shaneera' by Fatima Al Qadiri (UK Bass/Arabic Pop)
Fatima Al Qadiri has always been an artist who has explored the concept of identity and culture in a political context, from the fixation on Orientalism in 'Asiatisch', to the oppressive nature of 'Brute'. However, on 'Shaneera', she decides to take on LGBT identity in Arab countries. This is not only her best release to date because of its concept, but also because of its production. 'Shaneera' is probably her most fun, dancefloor-oriented project to date, mixing UK club music with Arabic pop and mahraganat, as well as funny and attitude-filled vocal samples from her collaborators, in a very inventive and unusual way.
Highlights: "Spiral" (feat. Bobo Secret), "Alkahaf" (feat. Bobo Secret and Lama3an)
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#15. 'Whities 011' by Lanark Artefax (IDM/UK Bass)
Irish producer Calum MacRae has been music as Lanark Artefax for a couple of years, and has big fans such as Aphex Twin or Björk. His second EP, 'Whities 011', is a big example of why. A combination of techno, IDM, UK bass, grime and ambient music that sounds like both a combination of underground dance music genres of the past few years, and also something that has never been done before. Fans of atypical uses of vocal samples, dreamy atmospheres and weird rhythms will find a lot to like on this EP.
Highlights: "Voices Near the Hypocentre", "Hyphen to Splice"
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#14. ‘Now That the Light Is Fading’ by Maggie Rogers (Art Pop/Synthpop)
The Maryland-born musician Maggie Rogers was discovered by Pharrell Williams, and her song “Alaska” became a cult hit thanks to the Internet. But there is more to Rogers than her potential to become a viral star. The previously mentioned track seems to pick up where Ellie Goulding’s debut ‘Lights’ left off (and actually succeeds at doing that) but the overall sound of ‘Now That the Light Is Fading’ feels more expansive. Tracks like “Dog Years” or “On + Off” take on a hazy-electro-R&B sound which sounds closer to a mix of Bat for Lashes and Nao, and fits perfectly with her soft voice. Her debut EP is, surprisingly, extremely strong, one of the best pop releases of the year so far, and shows that she has potential become a great artist on her own.
Highlights: “Alaska”, “On + Off”
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#13. ‘Transphobic’ by Quay Dash (Hardcore Hip Hop/Experimental Hip Hop)
Quay Dash is not fucking around. The NY rapper came through with one of the most fun, diverse, innovative yet hard-as-fuck rap releases of the year. From the SOPHIE-produced opening track "Bossed Up" to the closing track "Decline Him", she proves that she's one of the better upcoming rappers. With an unbelievable flow, attitude and direct lines as well as a production that matches all of that, she is way better than most of the hip-hop acts in the mainstream nowadays, and definitely deserving of a spot in the limelight.
Highlights: "Decline Him", "Bossed Up"
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#12. 'Alice Glass' by Alice Glass (Electropop/Post-Industrial/Glitch Pop)
2017 was a very intense year for Alice Glass. And not only because of the release of her debut solo EP, but also because she came forward about her experience in Crystal Castles, about being raped and abused by her bandmate, Ethan Kath, and the repercussions against that. Personally, while I always liked the EP (even though it was, understandably, quite divisive,) it truly clicked with me lyrically once she explained what happened. The lyrics deal with all the angst, sadness and confusion of being in that situation, along with the excellent production that accompanies it - musically, it combines the synthpop and punk vibes from her band, along with a more electronic production, influenced by industrial music, trap and even gabber. I really hope we do get an album from her next year, because I feel like we need more.
Highlights: "Blood Oath", "Natural Selection"
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#11. coucou chloe - 'Erika Jane' (UK Bass/Experimental Hip Hop)
One of the best club music releases of the year was the second EP of French singer, rapper, producer and DJ coucou chloe. Having her music played by both Björk and Rihanna, her music is a very creative, minimal take on dance music, and 'Erika Jane' (also her birth name) proves that. The hip-hop influences are presented in the same way they appeared on Arca's first projects: very deadpan and at times impossible to wrap one's head around, but still extremely interesting for those who are interested in the genre.
Highlights: "GS", "Flip U" (feat. Sega Bodega)
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#10. ‘Luz Mala’ by Bungalovv (IDM/Post-Industrial)
While the concept of “luz mala” (literally translated as “bad light”) does not appear on the whole concept of the Argentinian musician Bungalovv (member of the Buenos Aires electronic music collective TRRUENO) other than as an inspiration, his latest EP released under the Mexican-Canadian label Infinite Machine seems like a really odd take on the country’s folklore, both theme and sound-wise. Also inspired by African and Middle East rhythms, it takes on a sound that is decidedly “club-oriented”, yet feels innovative and playful, organic and industrial simultaneously. It is one of the label’s best releases in a while, something that trascends the usually vague term of “global bass” and does something actually exciting that will surely leave us waiting more (as the label promises an LP by 2018) and that is something to be excited for.
Highlights: “Ulna”, “Fémur”
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#09. 'Shadow Expert' by Palm (Math Rock)
Palm are one of the most innovative new bands in rock music. Following their 2015 debut LP 'Trading Basics' with this EP, they leave the noisy intensity of their sound back then in favor of post-punk-influenced rock music with completely odd structures yet ridiculously catchy hooks, provided by both of the band's vocalists, Eve Albert and Kasra Kust. This sounds like a modern take on Battles or early Foals, but it is completely its own thing as well. Can't wait for their next album, 'Rock Island', to be released early next year!
Highlights: "Walkie Talkie", "Shadow Expert"
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#08. ‘EP II’ by Buscabulla (Synthpop)
When people talk about music from Puerto Rico, the first things that tend to come to mind from there are salsa, bachata, reggaeton and so on. In theory, Buscabulla would be an exception, but does not mean that the Caribbean influences in their music are not present. That is probably the thing that distinguish them from any other of their contemporaries. While on their debut, self-titled EP the influences were a bit less obvious, at a musical level ‘EP II’ shows them being more unafraid and unashamed to show them. Their lyrics and music are likely influenced by the experience of living the USA as Latin American people, trying to reconnect with their roots. And their approach has a very successful result.
Highlights: “Tártaro”, “Frío” (feat. Helado Negro)
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#07. ‘Finding People’ by Croatian Amor (Sound Collage/Post-Industrial/Minimal Synth)
Danish producer Loke Rahbek, member of bands such as Damien Dubrovnik or Lust for Youth, released this EP earlier this year as Croatian Amor, in which he makes the perfect "bubblegum industrial" album, finding the midpoint between experimental sound collage pieces and sweet, almost poppy synth melodies. 'Finding People' comes from an alternate world where the most influential Kate Bush track isn't "Wuthering Heights" or "Running Up That Hill", but "Waking The Witch" or even "Hello Earth". Personally, this EP was the soundtrack of my winter.
Highlights: "Sky Walkers", “Keepers”
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#06. ‘ADD VIOLENCE’ by Nine Inch Nails (Electro-Industrial/Industrial Rock)
Last year, Nine Inch Nails released an EP called 'Not the Actual Events', which was probably their most abrasive, most metal release since the 'Broken' mini-album. Personally, I was into it, but my favorite NIN EP was without a doubt this EP. It is abrasive and experimental, while maintaining the "poppy" elements of their 2013 'Hesitation Marks'. From lead single "Less Than" (which was a minor radio hit in Alternative radios) to the William Basinski-esque loop on the ending of "The Background World", this might be one of the best things Reznor ever made (in my opinion, at least) and proves that Nine Inch Nails still have a lot to give.
Highlights: "The Background World", "Less Than"
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#05. ‘When I Was Young’ by MØ (Electropop/Art Pop)
I was personally surprised by this EP. While I never really lost faith in MØ, after her singles I thought she'd make something that would be completely radio-oriented pop. I guess I was wrong and I'm thankful for it! The surprise-released 'When I Was Young' EP back to her debut album 'No Mythologies to Follow' but still feels a little more accessible and playful. While "Roots" and "Run Away" are both gorgeous Dirty Projectors-esque art-pop ballads, the title track and "Linking with You" have more colorful dancehall vibes. But the EP's strongest tracks are "Turn My Heart to Stone" and "BB", both career highlights. This might be my favorite release of hers, and I'm definitely down to hear more of this stuff.
Highlights: "BB", "Turn My Heart to Stone"
#04. ‘Steroids (Crouching Tiger Hidden Gabber Megamix)’ by Death Grips (Industrial Hip Hop)
I think this kind of represents my entire relationship with Death Grips:
https://twitter.com/iamvulnicura/status/866813534566481922
And this… release sounds like Government Plates + NOTM + gabber music. What’s not to love?
Highlights: uh… the whole thing?
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#03. '13' by Denzel Curry (Trap Rap/Hardcore Hip Hop)
This is what rap music in the charts should sound like... in my opinion at least. '13' (Denzel Curry's first EP on a major label) is fun as hell, but still has extremely unusual yet accessible production and beats. Also, Denzel really kills it with his flow and lyricism, not being afraid to get political or serious but not afraid to have fun either. It also has excellent features from underrated rap hero Lil Ugly Mane and Ronny J. Probably one of the best rap releases of the year.
Highlights: "Hate Government", "Zeltron 6 Billion" (feat. Lil Ugly Mane)
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#02. 'EP2' by Yaeji (Ambient House/Ambient Pop)
I'm probably going to say this several times, but, 2018 is going to be the year of Yaeji, and this is the perfect proof of that. Her production, fusing ambient music, deep house and trap, is immaculate, and so are the hooks found in this album. The way in which she alternates lines in Korean and English on "Drink I'm Sippin On" and "Raingurl" is something I have never heard before, same thing with the way in which she does it, full of attitude and passion. It also has the second best Drake cover released this year (the best is the Paramore one,) so you know, you must check this out if you do not want to miss something completely new.
Highlights: "Passionfruit", "Drink I'm Sippin On"
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#01. 'RINA' by Rina Sawayama (Electropop/Contemporary R&B/Art Pop)
I have rooted for Rina Sawayama ever since I heard "Cyber Stockholm Syndrome". And with this EP she certainly did not dissapoint.
'RINA' is probably one of the most innovative pop releases since Charli XCX's 'Vroom Vroom' EP. The way in which she explores themes of loneliness in the modern age, the Internet, identity, depression and loss of love are really personal, but still playful enough to engage the listener. The production, handled by Clarence Clarity, is also very reminiscent of late-90's/early-00's pop (like Britney, N'Sync or Kelis) and modern J-pop (like Perfume or Utada), but also feels noisy in a Sleigh Bells-like way.
Rina Sawayama is one of the most exciting new artists to emerge in the last few years, and we will be definitely hearing more of her soon.
Highlights: "10-20-40", "Cyber Stockholm Syndrome"
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fcb-mv33 · 1 year ago
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Sorry dont want to fuel the discourse so you dont have to post this if you dont want to but I just wanted to add its not just Max
Literally anyone associated with RB for example Yuki and Hannah last year and Alex in 2021
Only Red Bull was pointing out how shitty people were towarda them and the abuse they got but not one media said anything about this it was all brushed off which makes me so sad especially Hannah and other team members (like Calum who literally got shit on this weekend) who are knly doing their jobs
Oh for sure I know. I posted last season every time a member of Red Bull received abused, Hannah, Calum, Adrian, Christian and their partners receive so much abuse and it was literally only Red Bull who called it out…and even at that they aren’t the best at calling it out when it happens.
Honestly like the only reason I keep calling it out is because nobody else bothers. Red Bull and Max are just expected to deal with it and that’s it and it annoys the shit out of me
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fcb-mv33 · 1 year ago
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I find these Mercedes fans hypocrites, other fans of other drivers was saying for years while Lewis is a good driver he’s had the car to back him, and the Lewis fans deny it, now they are saying the same thing about Max, mates how silly can you get, max has wins while them Mercedes cars was dominating the tracks.
And George do not get me started with him, I’ve always said as soon as he got that seat in Mercedes he’d turn into a right Prick and I was right my mum was like noooo Lando would be the arrogant one and I was like that’s George.
These fans that don’t like Max that’s fine get on with your life hes done nothing to you, same with Lewis, same with Seb, and all the other drivers.
F1 needs to come out with a statement regarding this because it’s ridiculous now, but they won’t, these drivers get in those cars and risk everything for us to watch them and this is the thanks they get. These fans need to grow up.
Red Anon❤️
George literally has lost any senses of likability since moving to Merc. All he does is whine and complain or chat shit about drivers in the media but won’t say it to their faces cause he doesn’t have sky sports to back him up😭. Lewis I just genuinely have no time for, I think he’s definitely one of the best but for me Senna and Michael are above and by the end of his career I’ll rate Max above him (I do rate Max above him now lmao).
I thibk lewis is happy to drive away which is fine but to say you want a fight for a championship only to turn around and spend more time in the media chatting shit about Max, who had defended Lewis from questions regarding their battles and who also never tried to drag Lewis down when he got the chance. I think his fans are dead awful and seem to think the abuse Max gets is justified because it’s Max and I hate how Lewis never once after Silverstone spoke out about the abuse Max was getting, or in Jeddah, Brazil, Silverstone 2022. I found that v hypocritical. And the fact he brought silverstone crash up to Charles in 2022 boils my blood (to me shows he knew what was going to happen).
F1 will never say anything cause it’s Max and Red Bull. Calum on the regular gets racist abuse, Hannah gets abuse for being a women and being amazing at her job, Christian gets abused for being a tp. Adrian and his wife got hundreds of abusive messages after the cost cap drama and not once did 1 call any of this out. Max’s family including his sister and nephews received hundreds of messages abused them over Brazil and nothing was done. I’ve honestly accepted that Max will get little to no support fr f1 cause it doesn’t make them look good.
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fcb-mv33 · 2 years ago
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The dyslexia thing my brother uses it all the time to get out of stuff 💀😂
Also the fact that LH cult keeps forgetting that some of their fans are racist 😂 mates did you not see what some of them was saying about some drivers, also the fact that Calum has said that he was stopped at Abu Dhabi airport and they more or less was commenting abuse at him, yet if Lewis was stopped they would go up the fucking wall over it, I’m sorry but where’s the logic behind it 🥴
Lewis Hamilton while he is a good driver he had a amazing car behind him for 7/8 years while he was winning championships with F1 his first was and ahold of been Massas, he’s friends with some shady people his fans brush that over, he says some things about his nephew they are suddenly blind, he comes of social media and unfollows his dog and everyone and stops talking to media they cheer him on, he allows his fans to abuse other drivers and Redbull staff he enables them, eggs them on yet he don’t get called out by it, I’m sorry but you guys cannot say fucking anything now, other fucking drivers are allowed to stop talking to journalists and media. Max called out his “fans” in Austria I believe and yet Lewis fans shitted on him, max gave a detailed response to the problem Lewis fans twisted it yet Lewis gave a half assed response on it 🤨.
The fact that most of these people sending threats to Max and Redbull are adults grown ass adults who can Drive, Vote, buy a house, Drink Alcohol ect are sending hate,death threats, racist remarks, they need to grow the fuck up and Let the DRIVERS sort themselves out they don’t need people butting in, yes defend your favourite drivers that’s fine but do not send anything to them.
I’ve seen Lewis fans screech because some fans are like come on I want him to DNF in a safe way yet Lewis fans I’ve seen are like I want max to crash in a fiery ball and I’m like are you fucking serious!
Anytime someone is taking the piss outta my spelling I will look them dead in the eye and saw “you do know I’m dyslexic? I’m really insecure about it” and their faces DROP😭😭I love the power lmao.
Like all lh fans preach about mental health, equality, and anti racism YET send racist abuse to Calum, send sexist abuse to Hannah and abuse Max constantly like they are genuinely cunts yet Lewis has never called it out? He gets a pass cause he’s Lewis? Doesn’t call out his fanbase wishing Max death, sending Red Bull staff abuse, sending Maxs family abuse? We never see it cause it’s Red Bull. Lewis doesn’t give a fuck unless it makes him look good🤷🏼‍♀️
The thing that makes me laugh about the abuse being sent to Max is that people genuinely aren’t upset for Checo they just want to hate on Max it’s literally that simple. They just wanted another reason to abuse Max and tbh Checo gave them really more of a reason to send Max abuse.
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fcb-mv33 · 2 years ago
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Maybe that Anon needs to get their head checked because I do remember Team LH sending Death and racist threats to Latifi for crashing last year 🤷🏼‍♀️
I live in England and I’m honestly embarrassed at some of the fans here that support Lewis they seem to think he walks on water, I remember his early years my older brother used to say that he was dangerous driver with how he used to act there has been some interviews he’s admitted to crashing into other drivers because he had a shit car 🤷🏼‍♀️, and for the Lewis fans just to point out if Lewis never moved to Mercedes he would be a one time champion 🤷🏼‍♀️.
I never see Max flaring up his fans like how Lewis and Toto do theirs, yes max has bad fans in his base but oh my god the amount of good max fans I’ve seen they ALWAYS call out the wrong ones, it’s honestly stupid at how Max always get asked about his fans why the fuck can’t other drivers get the same, the orange army do something small the media makes it a big deal, team LH send death threats it’s quite nothing from the media, the Tifosi calls Max’s mum a bitch and whore and one chucked something on Max’s car everything is quite again and the F1 insta posts about how they are a great crowd.
I don’t like Lewis because of his fans and with some of the stuff he has come out with in the past he is a hypocrite.
Max legit has called out the shit some of his fans did, Austria especially but that is ignored…meanwhile you have Toto creating a conspiracy against Yuki, you also have nobody calling out the abuse against Hannah or Calum yet if it was a certain driver Max would be held responsible?
Max fans were harassed in Silverstone and Monza yet fuck all was said, you then had the misogynistic chats against Max’s mother which were never mentioned by media, someone actually tried to fuck his race by throwing an item at his car which is super dangerous yet nobody was held responsible?? Yet a certain team principal cried about the flares, claiming that was aimed at his driver….you then had the booing which was laughed at by English commentators even tho they called a whole fanbase racist for booing their English driver but when it’s Max it’s okay.
“We race as one” unless your Max Verstappen or a member of Red Bull Racing.
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Orange army is ALSO the problem
No sorry but this isn’t the time to bring up the orange army.
Max fans has been played into these evil people, we were blamed for flares been thrown onto the track when it was a security guard, we were called racist for not liking Lewis and for the people who booed him. We have bared the brunt of the abuse from Sky and formula 1 as a whole since last year. We get called out but others never do. We get blamed for anything and everything, we get labeled as racists, sexist and all round assholes. Hannah was abused all week last week, Calum was abused today and for past races yet nothing was mentioned
This past weekend we have seen the Ferrari fans being praised for being passionate…but they weren’t. They chanted that Max’s mother was a whore all weekend, booed Max so much that the broadcast had to tone it out, sung and booed over the National anthem, chanted that they wanted Max to die each time his car pasted and threw items at his car which could have ended awfully. Max fans were harassed all weekend to a point they covered up their merch yet absolutely fuck all was said about in the media, instead they praised the fans.
So no, it’s time to call out fans who have acted way fucking worse than you say the orange army did. There was none of this level of abuse in Austria, Zandvoort or Spa. It’s time to stop saying it’s all Max and his fans when it has been constantly other fanbases that have faces no consequences.
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The thing is what annoys me about certain fans is that everyone forgets about the factory like I remember the figures in England to do with Covid so why shouldn’t Redbull hire or pay Sick pay to their staff.
Mattia honestly has no right is saying anything when Ferrari had a illegal Engine and they got off by the skin of their teeth because of a loophole 💀 no punishment.
Mercedes’ well they had the funding when no other team had the same amount as they did and the DAS thing I have no clue on that 😅 but all I know is that ALL teams complained about it yet they still had it till the end of the Season 🤷🏼‍♀️
2007 McLaren both Fernando and Lewis got off scotch free
2019 Ferrari both Seb and Charles got off free I mean yes Ferrari in the end had to change the engine but still
Also the Fact that the FIA are ignoring the other POC on the grid either the drivers or the mechanics is fucking wrong all we hear about is the racism Lewis faces yes it’s wrong that he gets racist shit thrown at him but what about the other drivers huh or the mechanics nothing is ever said about them, I’m sick to the back teeth of Lewis fans nothing is special about him if he never moved to Mercedes Lewis would never be a 7 time champion he would be a 1 time. Lewis might be the best of HIS generation but not all and I stand by that statement.
I’m sick of the FIA cowering about Mercedes letting them get away with everything they say and yet if Redbull says something well 🙄 Mercedes complain about redbulls pit stops gets the rules changed but Redbull are still amazing at it, Mercedes’ complain about the Floor and say Redbull are cheating gets the rules changed, it was Ferrari that had the flexi floor but nothing was ever said after that
MAFIA anyone💀💀💀
The day Lewis goes from this sport will be brilliant he can take his toxic fans away with him
Honestly I thought the Fans of f1 was better then Football but fuck me they are turning into them fans 💀 honestly I came into this sport at the wrong time 😭
I’m so sorry for the rant but honestly

No because I absolutely agree with all of this. People who want really bad penalties for Max and Red Bull seem to forget that drivers don’t usually face the punishment if the team fucks up. Ferrari and Mercedes have literally no right to be publicly accusing Red Bull of cheating to make a great car just because Red Bull are beating them. What is it Toto always said “just build a better car” and so Red Bull did. I don’t understand why there is no create in the community being given to the employees at Red Bull when they were the last to start the new regulations and did an amazing job.
Honestly I’m just sick off the whole idea that abuse against Red Bull team members and drivers is okay but when it’s another team or driver it’s wrong. We saw all the abuse that was throw at Alex, Checo for Abu Dhabi 2021 and then at Yuki for Zandvoort. We see constantly the abuse Max faces, the body shaming, death threats and alround nastiest yet nothing is said. Same with Hannah and Calum, both of whom are Red Bull team members and have suffered with constant misogynistic and racist abuse yet nothing was said by driver or the fia. We had Monza where Max was booed, his mother was called a whore, he had stuff thrown at his car and his fans were non stopped abused yet absolutely fuck all was said, there was no help for those fans, the fia simply ignored it. Sky sports commentators laughed at Max getting booed but cry when it’s Lewis getting booed…seems fair🙃
Mercedes get everything they dislike changed. The pit stops rules are a prime example and also this season getting the regulations changed just because they were unable to build a better car….this whole cost cap scandal was a desperate attempt to discredit what the Red Bull team, Max and Checo have done all year long.
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Lol, saw someone answering a long ass ask where they detailed why they dislike Max and it's honestly so funny. The only valid reason they had was Max winning, which is fair. People always hate a winner so I understand but the other reasons were funny. One reason was because "Max always makes up excuses for his fans behaviours and never calls them out". Like Lewis does? Like Charles does? Max is the only one who calls out his fan, mate. When did Lewis actually call out his cult for being misogynistic, pedophilic, abalist, *that word for shaming people for being born in a particular country, I can't remember it*, racist to Asians, Latinos, Muslims etc. When did Charles call out tifosi for calling Sophie a whore, wishing death on Max, being racist to Lewis, harassing people, making children and women feel up safe in Monza? When, when??
Another reason was because "Redbull only supports him and not anyone else". But have you considered that maybe he's just that good that everyone else looks not that good compared to him? Like Mercedes wasn't, isn't catered toward Lewis? Redbull in 2010-2013 wasn't catered towards Seb? Last night Redbull celebrated Checo's win despite Max' bad race and Max was part of it too. Unlike some team *Coughs Valtteri with Mercedes Coughs*
This was the funniest to me that "Max can never be happy for someone else when he has a bad race". There's literally a compilation of Max congratulating other after his bad race. When Charles won in Austria, Max was the happiest person in the world, even more then Charles. There were other points but I don't remember them.
And the worst thing is that they write fanfics about Max 😭 and a lot. Like their most well received works are about Max 😬. And they are a Charles and Seb fan (apart from being a member of cult lh). They dislike Max but like current and rbr era Seb, who's exactly like Max but even more unhinged. They could tolerate even love Seb when he was dominanting every race and doing that finger taunt but have problems with Max doing it? Honey pick a struggle 😪.
Sorry for the rant here. I could send it to them but they would never acknowledge this. And these are the same people who say shit like "why are you interacting with me, I'm allowed to have my own opinions" when you try to put them in their place. It all about having your own opinions until it doesn't fit your agenda. So Lando isn't allowed to want his best friend to win? Alex doesn't get to happy for Max? Seb doesn't get to say he wants Max to win? Where is the freedom of speech and thought now? Cult lh is will never respect Max because they can't get other the fact that he's simply better, and Max fans will never respect Lewis because he's a hypocrite, because of him directing unnecessary hate towards Max just cause and especially because of his fans. His fans are odd and they need to be locked away for public safety, the normal lh fans need to be protected from them. These delusion people consume f1 like it's some sort of sope opera and not a sports.
Bestie this took ages I am sorry I had college and now I am typing this on my laptop cause I absolutely agree with everything you have said!!!!
“Max always makes up excuses for his fans behaviour” that is the biggest lie they have told. Are they forgetting the fact that Max had fully called out the people in Austria who were harassing girls? Then we have Lewis who never called out the sexist posts made against Hannah, or the racist posts against Calum who got a lot of them post Zandvoort. He also never called out the racist abuse Yuki got after Zandvoort or called out the death threats that Max got last season and during Silverstone never called out the booing but he more or less expected Max to call it out when it came to him. Lewis only calls out stuff when it will benefit him, he could give less of a Fuck about sexism, racism or death threats when it comes to Red Bull drivers or members. The shit in Monza should have been called ot by all drivers, espiaclly the chants against Sophie, they were vile but the fact the media never commented on the abuse in Silverstone, and Monza but jumped on the Austria, Spa and Zandvoort bullshit when there was no issues at the latter two races, only a bullshit story about a flare being thrown at Lewis😭😂
“Red Bull only supports him” Maybe because they knew he was going to be the one to bring them a world championship? They’ve known Max since he was 15/16, they knew the talent and the faith in himself he has, he is a Red Bull driver inside and out so why would they not put their faith in him? Since 2020 there is no-one (including Lewis) who is better than Max, he is the top driver on that grid. Lewis was favoured at Merc, Bottas was called a fucking ‘wingman’ for god sake it really showed they gave a Fuck about him huh? Last season in Turkey they were basically depressed that Bottas won yet here Red Bull have been cheering on Checo, backing him all the way….yes they favour Max but they don’t throw a fit like Ferrari did at Silverstone and not go to the podium.
“Max can never be happy for someone else” I think they need to look at Monza 2020, Baku 2021, Monza 2021, Bahrain 2022, Monaco 2022 and Singapore 2022. When Max was the first to congratulate Pierre, Seb, Daniel, Checo and Charles even tho his race was shit. Max is literally proven to be the most kind hearted boy on that grid, all of his friends say that about him, never a bad word to say about him. Them writing fics about Max being this asshole until Daniel fixes him is so fucking weird….like just concentrate on your own driver since you can’t even get who Max is as a person correct.
I won’t respect Lewis for those reason….the man throws unnecessary hate to Max, never has a good word to say about him even tho Max never has a bad word to say about him but lewis will never respect a driver who is better than him, a driver who has never been in awe of him…which Max never has been.
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