#them. like people are SO unforgiving and unempathetic

[rrapmonster]

the switch up on brian puspos on twitter has been absolutely comical to watch

[iamnmbr3]

Just wanted to say that I like your Drarry meta posts. They have really given me a new appreciation for HBP and Draco and Harry's dynamic.

I just have a genuine question about your feelings on Harry.

Part of why Drarry began to leave a bad taste in my mouth was that I found book canon Harry to be very distasteful. He just seemed like a vindictive and unempathetic person. Even his remorse for almost killing Draco in book 6 was short lived and I think that same chapter ended with that awful Hinny kiss.

However, your posts seem to indicate a certain care for Draco. So where did this start? What made Harry transform from the guy who participated in group assaulting Draco end of book 4 & 5 to the guy who is trying to cover up Draco's tracks in book 6?

Thank you so much! Glad you've been enjoying my posts. That's so nice of you to say. I have enjoyed your meta as well btw!

This is a great question. I have a lot of thoughts. They are, of course, my personal interpretation and everyone is ultimately free to read things however they like.

The Context:

So first of all I think it's important to consider the larger context of this scene. Harry and Draco are in a fantastical and heightened setting. They are not simply classmates who don't like each other who got into a fight. They are at this point both soldiers on opposite sides of a war.

Draco is a Death Eater. His father has watched and jeered as Harry was tortured and nearly killed in a graveyard. Harry faced Lucius again in fifth year and fought him and is in fact to blame for Lucius's fall from grace and Draco's resultant punishment. Harry has been tasked with defeating Voldemort. Draco has been tasked with killing Dumbledore (though as a punishment not with the expectation that he will truly succeed). Harry knows that Draco is a Death Eater and believes he is tasked with doing something nefarious on behalf of Voldemort and is intent on stopping him.

This is the context of their fight. These are two people involved in a serious conflict on opposite sides actively striving against each other. This is not a simple spat between two classmates who don't like each other so we can't simply reduce it to that or we miss a lot of vital context. We can't judge it the way we would a fight between two people in a regular school who just don't like each other.

The Fight:

Now. As to the actual fight. Harry doesn't initiate it. He walks in on Draco crying and saying some incredibly incriminating stuff. Draco reacts in anger and humiliation and fear and attacks him. Harry responds in self defense and they use an escalating series of spells. Harry attempts Levicorpus for example which would stop Draco from continuing to attack him but certainly wouldn't hurt him even as much as a stunning spell would. And would, also, have allowed them to speak. Draco does quite a good job of holding his own against Harry and foils Harry's attempts to stop the fight. He then attempts in a moment of pain and anger to use an Unforgivable on Harry which Harry counters with Sectumsempra.

Harry has no idea what the Sectumsempra spell does when he uses it. It pops into his mind in a serious and potentially dangerous duel. Nothing in his education has really strongly impressed on him the risks of using untested spells. And none of the other Prince spells have been dangerous. Remember that originally he was planning to test the Sectumsempra spell on McLaggen. And he originally tested Leivcorpus on Ron. So he didn't know what the spell would do before he used it or view at something with the potential to be seriously hazardous.

He didn't do it out of vindictiveness. In fact, it's rather notable that while Harry can be vengeful he seems to have a particular aversion to hurting Draco even when you'd expect otherwise. Like in the beginning, despite the fact that Draco attacks him and breaks his nose and the fact that he already suspects him of being a Death Eater, Harry's anger towards him is surprisingly short lived and he never even thinks of doing anything to him to get even.

Harry's Reaction:

In my opinion, Harry actually has an extremely strong emotional reaction to nearly killing Draco. He is horrified by what he has done. To the point of a near panic attack. He is so upset that he freezes and just kind of collapses next to Draco.

And this is extremely atypical of Harry. Even in dire circumstances Harry is usually able to compartmentalize and keep a cool head and react well under pressure. Even in cases where he is to blame for the situation. When Ron starts dying from poison right in front of his eyes he is able to spring into action. When he realizes he's led his friends into a trap in book 5 he keeps calm and organizes a defense. When Hermione is being tortured in the Manor because they got captured due to Harry saying Voldemort's name he's able to keep calm and come up with a plan.

Also. Harry doesn't like to hurt people unnecessarily but he's still very formidable in combat and is actually quite willing to hurt people when he has to. He kills Quirrel without much regret and says later that he deserved what he got for helping Voldemort. He refuses to stun Stan Shunpike in book 7 because he is Imperiused but he stuns other Death Eaters even knowing they will likely fall to their deaths. Draco is a Death Eater working for Voldemort who has just attacked Harry.

Given his generally cool head under pressure and the fact that Draco is now an enemy on the other side of a war you might expect Harry to react calmly or even coldly to Draco's injury. But he doesn't at all. He can't think what to do. It's the only time we see him freeze up like that. His initial reaction is one of absolute horror. So much so that for once he can't even think of what to do:

Even after he sees that Draco has been healed and is no longer dying in front of him he can't tear his eyes away and is barely aware of his surroundings:

He's so upset he's literally shaking. And Harry has seen and suffered a lot of bad stuff. So that's saying a lot:

Harry is not someone who is good at expressing or even understanding his emotions. And especially with Draco it's difficult since he probably feels he should see Draco as more of an enemy than he actually does.

But I think his actions after this incident are very notable. Harry continues to believe that Draco is a Death Eater on a nefarious mission from Voldemort. And what he overheard Draco saying in the bathroom only further confirms this.

But after seeing Draco so scared and vulnerable and realizing that pursuing him brought them into a confrontation with each other where Harry ended up nearly killing him, Harry backs off completely.

He stops trying to discover and foil Draco's plan. He stops following him. Even though he is still convinced that Draco is involved in something dangerous he doesn't want to be the one to stop him. He doesn't want to be the cause of more fear or pain. Part of him probably also doesn't want to be the reason Draco is killed for failing.

Instead he distracts himself with other things. And it is in that context that he gets together with Ginny. After ditching her several times throughout the first part of the book to go chase after Draco instead, he gets together with her when he's trying to forget about Draco. Which uh. Sure was a choice on JKR's part.

So yeah I do think Harry actually was extremely affected by nearly killing Draco and regretted it a lot.

Book 4 & 5 fights:

As for the book 4 and 5 fights. Those are less serious but once again occur against the backdrop of being on opposite sides of the brewing war. In book 4 Harry is raw from the horrors of the graveyard and when Draco seeks him out and brings up Cedric he loses his temper as do the people he's with.

In book 5 Draco and co attempt to attack Harry to get revenge for Lucius's defeat and capture and Harry and some of his friends respond. (Draco eventually gets his revenge with the nose breaking incident in book 6).

Also we should remember these attacks occur in a world with magic where most injuries can be fixed instantaneously so they aren't as serious as they would be for one of us. These are, without a doubt, nasty incidents, but they are not one sided nor are they that surprising given the context.

Conclusion:

Drarry is, to me, a fascinating and deeply compelling ship because of how Draco and Harry are so compatible and drawn to each other despite their rivalry which evolves into them literally being on opposite sides of a war. And because of the themes of redemption and forgiveness that are implicit in the ship. With all the reasons they have to hate each other they never can, and when it counts, they always come through to protect each other.

[aeonghaseyo]

Note: I haven't watched Derision yet but I got spoiled by the Bible, but I'll tag this as a spoiler nonetheless. You're welcome.

Ah yes. More unwarranted Marinette salt. I would also like to manifest here that Pee Girl is in no way, shape, or form equipped to interpret Marinette's dialogue with an impartial and compassionate lens, as what victims of ANY traumatic experiences need the most.

Pee Girl is so quick to conclude that Marinette's resolution to dig up details about people she's interested in is a big red flag. I mean, I do agree, but she missed SOME CRUCIAL POINTS:

Marinette didn't have anyone to process her trauma with and heal. To even think that she should've had the capacity to heal on her own when she must have not told her parents about the incident or when she was unable to run to Socqueline after that is crazy. That includes realizing in a split-second that "stalking someone" is not the best way to cope with having a crush the next time she does have one. Of course, this shouldn't excuse her impulse to know every single detail about her crush even as a safeguard because it still counts as an invasion of privacy on the other person's part. But to come to that conclusion that Marinette is evil incarnate because she lacked time and resources to process and heal properly from that traumatic event is lunacy, and like it or not, Pee Girl, you are not innocent either and you're a fucking jackass.

NONE of what happened between her and Luka, or even her and Kagami, were a direct effect of that humiliation she suffered under Chloe (and partly Kim). Marinette may have hurt Kagami in the process of keeping her from Adrien, but THERE WAS NO INSTANCE OF MARINETTE HAVING TO FIGHT ANOTHER GIRL JUST TO GET KIM TO LIKE HER. It makes absolutely no sense to flame Marinette for hurting Kagami unintentionally (I don't even know why you're still not over it when they're best friends as of season 5) in the pursuit of Adrien when this sort of thing never happened with her pursuit of Kim from like, a few years ago. Also, Marinette wasn't even seeing anyone back then, so it also makes no sense to flame her for "not being loyal to Luka" when she had no history of cheating on anyone when Socqueline was still around as her bestie. So basically, Pee Girl blames Marinette for being an asshole to Luka and Kagami for... whatever happened between her and Kim? What the fuck is this logic.

To Pee Girl: You hate Marinette. WE GET IT. But your post is just basically scolding her for being a stalker, invalidating her trauma instead of just wishing for better days for her to heal, be a better person too and grow out of the habit of stalking her crush. I have to admit that there were some points in this rant that were valid, but it all boiled down to wishing for a witchhunt for Marinette even while she hasn't even processed her trauma with an expert. She's not a real person, but I for one believe that how you see fictional characters can be correlated with how you treat people around you. If you're this unforgiving, this uncompassionate and this unempathetic towards a 14-year old girl who had to endure a lot of psychological trauma from bullying, then maybe you're also a shithead who thinks victims of bullying deserve to be in pain, and whatever hurt they caused makes them spawns of Satan, even while their trauma has not been processed yet, even when they haven't even sought professional help.

BONUS: I don't care if you're a Marinette hate blog. But you're an asshole, and that's not supposed to be the rest of the fandom's problem. But I am one of those people who have a problem with this shitty ass take of yours that deserves to be incinerated in a landfill, because I have been bullied before and had to go through a time where my trauma was unprocessed and I had hurt people too. My crap wasn't excused, and I had a lot of backlash as a teen, so I devoted the rest of my time and energy to healing, processing my trauma, and turning to my support systems for genuine help. I had gone through therapy to be less sucky and to hurt people less, because NO ONE DESERVES TO GET UNJUSTLY HURT.

It's my turn to use your words against you, you ugly trick-ass bitch: I'll be lucky if I find a day to finally forgive you for your bullshit, but at this point, I don't wish to be THAT lucky.

[neotrances]

syr does indirectly fufill a lot of wishes propin wanted but not necessarily for her, a lot of the gods would project onto him looking for propin in him but he isnt and can never be her and most of his life has been spent doing things for others and not for himself / bc of what he believes is right, he isn’t unempathetic cruel or unforgiving like his father but he also is not a docile people pleaser pacifist like his mother is, he can’t use them as a crutch for identity any longer because he fundamentally cannot fully relate to either he has to reconcile with the fact that he is not mean but he is also not kind and the only trait he truly has is loyalty, which is why knighthood appeals to him so much

[randomshipshere]

I think part of the reason why I can’t hate JGY is because he entered the 1%, ate the rich, and when he put himself into a position of power, he utilized it to protect the common people even if it put him in a difficult situation with the other sects who most likely didn’t want to create the lookout towers because it forced them to put in their own money to make this a reality and were made to do actual work for the people instead of just lavishing in their riches and fame.

I also can’t hate him for killing Nie Mingjue (going off on the novel here) in an underhanded way because he doesn’t have the strength to fight NMJ or the political power to protect himself from him. And there’s no evidence of JGY poisoning NMJ before the man tried to kill him a second time, and WWX supposed that it happened after that incident. A narrator isn’t always reliable, but I don’t think this is the type of novel where that’s the case since it’s been pretty forward which is evinced by how MXTX speaks of events in her book during interviews. It should also be pretty clear by the fact that WWX is apparently supposed to be the character who was supposed to empathized the most with JGY, and it’s been displayed very clearly that being called the “Son of a Prostitute” definitely triggers JGY.

Further on the incident between NMJ and JGY, Nie Mingjue doesn’t actually know any of the sins that JGS was manipulating JGY into doing, and was instead acting out of rage he still obviously had from an incident that Meng Yao had to act under duress at the near end of the Sunshot Campaign. 

NMJ was literally going to murder JGY because of his own sense of self-righteousness for an answer he didn’t like. Granted it was a horrific answer, but that shouldn’t warrant an escalation of violence where it was clearly not an act of justice but of vengeance. In addition, JGY may be his sworn brother (and that should even make this even more of a reason why NMJ was in the wrong), but he isn’t a member of the Nie sect anymore. JGY belonged to the Jin sect, and to kill someone that is no longer your own citizen is a breach or should be a breach of law, especially since this took place in Koi tower. But nobody will bat an eye to this because JGY, no matter how hard he works, is disposable trash.

Murder shouldn’t be an answer, but that was NMJ’s answer first and really left JGY in a precarious situation between both him and his father when NMJ should’ve faced JGS instead to avoid this situation.

And either of these men will kill him no matter what he chose. So JGY who had no one to lie on (Lan Xichen being there but useless overall/truth) answered back by killing both men with the same brutality but with a different method. It’s karma basically but it’s a twisted back-to-back kind because JGY claps back twice as hard.

Then again maybe I’m projecting my thoughts of police brutality through NMJ because the man is horribly bias and violent that he radiates rage, and is literally practicing a brain-damaging cultural practice. Wen Ruohan was the one who killed his father and provoked the war, but he condemned the entire Wen sect, coming up with the term ‘Wen dogs’. NMJ may be a loving brother, friend and general, but he is unempathetic making him bias, unforgiving, and turning more and more violent (ly mentally unstable) and is placed in a position of power.

I can’t hate him for murdering JGS, but he went overboard by having those prostitutes do such a thing.

IDK, I thought I’d voice why I can’t see JGY as a total monster when the people around him are monsters themselves condoned by society and there’s only so much abuse that a man can endure before he snaps and gets revenge.

As for the case with Qin Su and Rusong, we don’t actually know what is the truth behind either since the novel was really vague on the matter. But JGY definitely didn’t intend for JZX to die.

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I think I was talking to my friend earlier and was like “I should do a tumblr post for my OCs alignments” but then forgot to so anyway

with classic DND alignments

Saeyt Doraz (aka Tank) Twilek Republic Trooper:  Tank is the epitome of Chaotic Good. It’s really amazing she hasn’t been kicked out of the Republic Army because if someone tells her to do something morally objectionable but as an order she’s like “I’m sorry but are you aware that that’s wrong? Anyway I’m hanging up my comms now goodbye”. Tank likes to think of people as mostly good, but also isn’t naive enough to let people who might be dangerous in a position where they could hurt others. She’s more risky with herself though.

Messilandre Melina Mirialan Jedi Knight: Messilandre definitely starts the game closer to Lawful Neutral but eventually levels up to Neutral Good. But beginning game: Messilandre likes things to be clear and reasonable. She doesn’t like surprises, unclear expectations, or unclear instances of which side people are on. She’s unforgiving with her enemies in most cases, which is what takes her off the “good” tier at first -- she is not opposed to killing say, a Sith Lord who is trying to surrender, because in Messilandre’s mind... well, they’re gonna escape or kill more people anyway. This earns some well deserved “What the fucks” From her party members.

Harin So, Voss Jedi Consular: Even though Harin So can come off as kind of cold or unempathetic, Harin So stays in the “good” section for zir tenure in the game. Zie does get people killed, but it’s more of due to not being omniscient/attempting to call Terrakh Morrage’s bluff when he’s not bluffing, rather than any malice or calculated decision to let people die. Harin So has low sympathy for people zie believes got themselves into that mess -- like the Black Sun smugglers who were dying after trying to smuggle noetikons -- but zie still helps.

Taimen Kor, Sith Smugger: Tai definitely starts off his adulthood in the neutral (in between good and evil) asshole side, but by time the game starts he’s decidedly chaotic good. As a smuggler, Tai doesn’t have a ton of respect for the laws -- and why would he, after growing up and seeing how they were used in Imperial Rule? Tai thinks people should just try to help each other even if it cuts into profit margins, which winds up making him a kind of shitty smuggler.

Lycaea Archeliou, Togruta(ish) Sith Warrior: Lycaea’s probably chaotic neutral, maybe chaotic good later on enough. Lycaea will generally pick the helping, or at least not hurting, people options in game, but it isn’t until Jaesa starts her lightside Sith crusade and Vette starts a stealth campaign against some empire slave camps* that lycaea is involved in actively trying to make things better when they don’t just come across her path. For the most part, Lycaea needs to see things and people to care about them.

Xahaiyarishin, Kaleesh Bounty Hunter: True Neutral. Xareesh has a moral code she follows and she’s generally consistent with it. She doesn’t go out of her way to hurt people and she has hard codes against fighting people who can’t defend themselves, but if you’re like... a soldier she believes is a worthy combatant? You are definitely at risk of being killed by Xareesh for money. Like Harin So, Xareesh is fairly unsympathetic towards people she thinks made shitty decisions with the intent of profiting from them, the only difference is Xareesh doesn’t help them she’s just... “you made your bed now lie in it.” example yalt or whatever who betrays Nemro for money. She’s like “What did you *think* would happen? *shoots*”

Aereinys Trin, Chiss Imperial Agent: At the start of her plot, Aereinys is the true imperial ideal for an imperial agent, meaning Lawful Evil. People who are the empire’s enemies, even if all they’re doing is you know, not wanting to be subjugated by the empire? Sorry, but murder (or however she’s been told to deal with them). People who might blow her cover? She analyzes the options for the least subtle, most efficient way of resolving it, but murder is definitely on the table. Someone she was told to kill? Murder again it’s amazing how versatile a tool that is! She does not question the Empire until it hurts her personally, which is very human but also... Yikes ™. then she skews towards a LOT more chaotic, her faith is completely shaken, she wants to kill every Sith and Imperial Agent involved in her brainwashing but is terrified to do so. Outwardly she follows orders, inwardly she plots revenge.

Nehari Racin, Cathar Sith Inquisitor: Nehari was initially concpetualized as a chaotic evil character because when I created her character I was like “wait do I have a darkside one yet? *rolls up stereotypical dark side char*” After her character got more honed... well she’s definitely still evil, but she isn’t as stereotypically chaotic evil. Nehari (like any good Sith) believes that power justifies itself and the only point of having power is to get more of it. She actually may be going through some character growth, though. I think she realizes exactly how phony the sith rhetoric (and rhetoric she didn’t realize she was agreeing with earlier) is when she becomes a sith, because so many sith are only strong in comparison to people weaker than them. her actions change here and she becomes a lot less of a bully, which is probably the first time anyone’s ever had THAT happen on korriban.

*ok this  part with vette isn’t canon BUT ITS CANON TO ME. Jaesa and Vette do stuff to try to make it less shitty for some people in the empire.

[canadianslut]

Y'all wanna drag Kesha for working with so and so and drag Katy for working with Migos like no I'm not a Katy fan but I enjoy some of her songs sometimes and this culture is like becoming very unforgiving, cold, and unempathetic. She unfollowed them on Instagram, stopped promo for the single once she caught wind of it, started doing performances of the solo version and still y'all were so mad. Do y'all have any joy in your life or do you sit in your rooms trying to drag everyone down it's a little sad... If you wanna drag Katy address her cultural appropriation instead (which she has since apologized for) in more detail and talk about that but this 21st century witch hunt to find any slight crack in the foundation of everything is just....not progressive to society. We need to educate people and have an open forum for discussion without shutting people down and branding them as "bad" for the rest of their lives.

[youraapple]

June 4, 2019

Everyone has emotions and sometimes act out or say things irrationally on it. It can be a mistake. And There are consequences to those words and actions.

How much love do you have to have for one to forgive a mistake?

I guess how big the mistake right?

What if it was a spur of the moment rude remark. Then later realized and apologized for?

Forgiveness is probably one of the strongest form of love.

And sometimes loves feel very far a sparce in my family.

I understand most "asian" family don't say I love you.

They cook for you, they care for you they help you out when you're in need.

So when none of that is even happening. .

How can one believe there is even love there.

No matter how many times my family said hurtful things and say things to make me look bad. I don't easily throw out the term they are canceled to me. And throw the things Ive done for them in their face. I guess if it's that easy for them to cancel me. They don't care that much to begin with. That's probably best. Please do delete my number and leave me and my family alone. You never really care, or were even ever kind at all anyways. Come and go as you please for your own purpose not to visit me or my kids. Always makeup stories and assumptions over your own insecurities and ego.

I don't want my children to be around people those who can't admit their faults and are narcissist. It's so sad but I am relieved. I don't want my kids around compulsive liars, unkind, unforgiving, unempathetic people towards others.

No matter how many times I've been upset or hurt by anyone I've never said anything near this.

"you'ree an ugly bitch. Go die, you deserve to be cheated on, you you deserve that, I'm deleting your number. Whatever bitch"

Good bye.

I now realize, I am human and will make mistakes. But people who truly love me will never talk to me in such a way or cancel me over me getting upset that my son's diaper was not change.

I woke up and saw smelt him in poop for who knows how long. And was upset and made one comment. Why couldn't any of you help. And The response was, "you didn't asked" Like wow really? I never waited for anyone ask me to change my nephews diareah dripping from him from toilet to the room. If my remark was so hurtful to you and you didn't mean to you could have just told me it wasnt intentional. And I would have been the fool who got upset so easy with my own family. But it's ok real colors were shown.

Family are those who care and love without an agenda and unconditionally.

I am definitely grateful for those who take the time to shower me with support and love through my ugly days and good days.