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kurohaai · 3 months ago
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私の推しの子
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1010ninetynine · 9 months ago
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honestly i think this is the worst possible read of everything oshi no ko so I'll just address all your points, and depending on whether or not you respond, it'll probs be the only post i make about the show (no, I have not read the manga. I agree that it feels so fucking pandery actually so i don't really want to read the manga. not that you referenced it - just pointing out we saw the same show.)
I want you to know that despite everything I'm about to say being limited to being mostly critique just because it was long enough with just that and I think that's the more interesting thing to do, I do actually agree with a lot that you've said, especially the points I just...didn't talk about because I had nothing to add.
And I was excited for Oshi no Ko at first! I've always struggled with idol anime because they can never seem to drop their packaged, plastic facade of perfect little angels chasing their dreams to address anything resembling real emotion.
I actually haven't watched a lot of idol anime because this was my perception. Happy/sad to see that it seems to be accurate...
But I too came from having this series hyped to no end by friends and the anime community (even the female side) at large!
For a show claiming to portray the dark reality of the entertainment industry, there isn't a single thing dark or real about Ai. She is a relentlessly perfect plastic mannequin of a person, never once showing herself to be anything less than upbeat, bubbly, and inoffensive. Not once in the three years we spend with her before her death do we see her sulk, throw a tantrum, or express any emotions besides peppy and cheerful. If there’s anything resembling a real girl underneath her facade, we don't get to see it, not even when she's alone with her babies with no one to judge her.
Here's the thing - we get to see Kana Arima and Akane Kusogawa and even Ruby Hoshino to some extent break down under the pressures of living in the public eye...so I think this decision was a conscious choice. There's the obvious read that Ai was made to be someone with endless forgiveness to pander to a male audience.
But there is a real effort from the author to explain why Ai is so desperate to pretend to love her fans, even when they hurt her with no regard for humanity. In her eyes, lies are love. She thinks that she cannot honestly love anyone, and in the idol industry, that's not what her fans want anyway. They want her to say the words regardless of whether or not she means them. They're likely fans because they can't get love irl imma be fr...they view her as a performance, they don't want her true feelings.
Ai was a girl thoroughly unloved for most of her life according to Saitou, who used to be a bit of a recluse according to Kaburagi. The image of her is clear - she's not someone who was able to connect with others easily. Rather than growing out of this by getting some fucking friends, she ends up in the throes of an adoring audience, and desperately pretends to love them despite the twisted nature of their relationship. And even though she did this for a while...it never grew to be anything more than that. So she tried to have children to love them instead, and uh, that turned out not so well. She did love em in the end though?
Now, I wish that just once Ai got mad at her fans ANYWAY. I wish that Ai's anger wasn't retconned just because she's supposed to be the ultimate idol. Because no one gets flamed online for the tiniest shit and doesn't eventually get mad and take it out on SOMETHING. But there's a reasonable-ish reason for why Ai's so fucking devoted to not being seen as angry even in front of her kids/managers. She wants to pretend that it could be love, in some form.
The biggest issue, sadly, remains Aqua himself. Even after you get over the whole reincarnated pedo baby angle, he is just the most miserably emo edgelord to be around. He's a mopey, brooding bore who looks down on pretty much everyone around him, but the show constantly insists on portraying him as cynically honest,  the one clear-eyed adult in a cast full of kids. Which, considering how female-heavy the rest of the cast it, gives the whole show a creepy, paternalistic vibe.
I don't agree he's that boring of a character like he's fine imo. Has a bit of a complex cuz his idol mom died so now devoted his life to finding her killer, but unfortunately makes friends along the way.
But the fact that this show is basically a harem anime always got to me. I love female characters taking center stage and all but oh...my god. I wish if they were going that route just cut out the middle man. Make him a female doctor who's a bit envious of the way Ai lives but loves her all the same only to discover the harsh truth of the industry. Cmon. It's not like Sarina's entirely straight anyway, you can keep her puppy crush on the only person who's in her life when she's dying and have the extra dimension for the protagonist fearing True Social Death.
Like I'm so serious I don't see why not. If the whole point is the hot girls for the male fanbase...just give that to em.
And yes, in case you even needed to ask, of course the majority of these girls fall in love with him...There's even, believe it or not, his sister Ruby, who in her past life was a terminally ill child in love with Aqua's past life, her physician at the time. He even jokingly promised to marry her when she turned 16, which could have passed as a tragic, knowingly futile promise to comfort a girl who had no chance of living that long, but considering how things ended up... yeah, let's just say I am dreading what happens when Aqua and Ruby discover each other's previous identities.
i have nothing to say to this except i think that it's not like aqua is a never ending chick magnet for no good reason. kana arima's obsession with him makes sense from a professional angle - guy managed to be creepy due to difference in mental and phys age and that made him a bit of a star. Of course she's going to think about him a lot, and that can grow. Akane falling for the guy who saved her from unaliving makes sense to. Mem-cho doesn't fall for him neitehr does Sama Yuki, nor just ANY girl really - he has some fans for his looks but it's not like stupid. It is not ye typical harem in terms of how unbelievable it is.
(im on copium, i know)
the Sarina thing though - it's not like he wouldn't know when she's gonna die, he is the doctor. of course he'd say "i'll date u when ur 16" since he does, yk? I think Sarina just had a puppy crush, because old man Gorou was the only guy in her life, and this gentle letdown was a good way to handle her stubbornness about the matter. I havent read the manga - so maybe i'm just proven wrong chapter XX but yk.
I do agree that this reincarnation thing with a 30 year old (at best) being lusted after by 16 year olds...makes you question the motives of the mangaka. Because really, does much change about the story if Aqua was just a pretty smart kid instead of a whole ass doctor? Besides what you lose from the previous life thing? Like realistically, he could just do his own investigations. It doesn't take an adult mind to figure that some random student couldn't possibly figure out where Ai lived, just a pretty intelligent one. He'd still follow a lot of the same story beats probably, he'd just be like. 16. instead of 30 (at best). I definitely agree the mangaka is probably fantasizing about...this. On some level.
It also doesn't help that the dialogue is pretty uniformly terrible. Characters speak in tangled, overwritten declarations and explanations that never read as something a real person would say but also aren't stylish enough to pass for the kind of purposefully exaggerated back-and-forth exchanges that define, for example, the Monogatari series.
i found most things said abt the idol industry in the show to be like that, but given how normal the dialogue can be at times i am choosing (choosing) to believe that it's just translation. That this sort of thing sounds more natural in Japanese or the translation just was bad. That said I really don't know how they could let you know from the get go how dark it is without the lengthy explanations of the ways contracts can snare people and all.
There's a moment where Ruby and her aspiring idol group exclaim that a collective dressing room they share with a bunch of other bottom-tier idols is "packed like sardines," except the room we're shown has plenty of breathing room and empty space. This show flat out lies to your face, in contradiction of the visuals its showing you, to make the girl's situation seen worse than it actually is.
I mean honestly I don't know much about idol lifestyles - not even a fan of idols anymore - but the room did seem relatively packed. I know it could be very challenging to get used to changing in there, even with that much room. If it really were smaller...that'd just be inhuman. Still if that's the reality of it, I think that should have been shown.
Akane's suicide attempt, as gut wrenching and heartbreaking as it is in the moment, only exists to give the reincarnated pedo protagonist another teenage girl to fawn over him. And considering how much inspiration this plot line draws from a real-life suicide tragedy in Japan, to call it nauseating and disrespectful would be the understatement of the century.
I don't think so, personally I think it serves to set the atmosphere. Like the effects of her attempting suicide was also to present the internet as a veritable threat in our eyes - there's naturally people who watch the show thinking "meh who cares about the internet lol if ur an idol u just get used to it" and having seen a girl nearly driven to suicide over it is just plain NECESSARY to that audience. For them to understand the horror of being an public figure with eyes on them, and what motivates characters like Kana to be so aware of them.
This all said, you're right about it being the only way that this affects the plot. It is a special kind of ew. Couldn't her suicide attempt being released by aqua be brough to kana's attention or something and cause her to think of him as a manipulative psycho? Please? Character conflict in my idol anime?
Oshi no Ko is not deep, it's not complex, and it's certainly not challenging. But it IS good enough at superficially appearing to be those things to attract a fan base that wants the ego boost of being seen as liking Mature(tm) stories about Serious Issues(tm) without actually being challenged to leave their comfort zone of pandering wish fulfillment.
It's challenging to the idea that idols are just naturally happy all the time, and the idea that idols and actors only need be pretty and poof everything happens swimmingly. It is complex, the many motivations of each character intersect to make a webby interesting sort of chaos. It's at the same damn time - pandery as hell. Everything lines up perfectly to get a whole lot of ladies fantasizing about Aqua. It's both complex and so utterly disgusting.
And that makes it so much more difficult to swallow.
Short Reflection: Oshi no Ko
I have a serious bone to pick with Oshi no Ko.
To be clear, I don’t mind that Oshi no Ko is s bad show. Bad shows are a dime a dozen, its not special in that regard. I don’t even mind that it’s a bad show that got absurdly popular. Again, not an uncommon occurrence, I’ve learned to live with the popular consensus among anime fans being very hit and miss. No, what chaps my hide about this misguided misfire is that it’s the worst kind of bad show: one with delusions of grandeur. It’s a self-indulgent piece of pandering wish fulfillment that’s convinced itself it’s a Deep, Complex masterpiece telling Hard Truths about society while perpetuating all the sins it claims to be criticizing. And while it may have somehow pulled the wool over the eyes of everyone else, I’ve watched enough anime to see through its plastic facade to the squirming rot underneath. This show is lying to you, and unlike the thesis statement it makes in its first episode, this lie is the lowest form of love I can think of.
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Everything You Need To Know To Master Japanese Food – Infographic
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Noodles are a staple part of Japanese cuisine, but there is so much more to Japanese food than Ramen! If you’re planning a trip to Japan, the variety of Japanese food to try is a literal feast of gastronomical delights! From hand-prepared sushi to hot food on a stick, there’s a wealth of culturally rich and delicious cuisine to sample. Now, you’re probably thinking “but where to start”? With this handy infographic and introduction into Japanese cuisine, you’ll soon be able to order delicious Japanese food like a professional traveller!
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Noodles
Although there is so much more to Japanese food than noodles, this humble food staple needs a mention! Noodles have been eaten in Japan for thousands of years, and I don’t mean instant ramen, although the average Japanese person eats around 45 packets of instant ramen a year!
There are many types of noodles, but the most popular are: Ramen, Soba, Shirataki, Udon, Sōmen, Harusame and Tokoroten. The oldest noodle is thought to be the Tokoroten, a white and jelly-like noodle. Most noodles are made from flour (either buckwheat or wheat flour) and water. But some like Tokoroten or Harusame are made from ingredients such as seaweed, potato or mung bean starch.
Sushi
Sushi is a delicious dish made of seasoned rice topped with seafood or vegetables.
TAKEAWAY: Do you know where the word “sushi” comes from? Thousands of years ago, fish was kept in fermented rice to stop it from spoiling. The rice in this preparation called narezushi was originally discarded, but the Japanese discovered that using vinegar negated the need for fermentation. However, the vinegar left a “sour taste”, which translated to Japanese becomes “sushi”.
Service rice and fish together as sushi became popular in Japan in the 17th Century. But it wasn’t until the 20th Century that sushi’s popularity exploded around the world thanks to the California Roll. There are many types of sushi, but the most popular are: Nigiri, Maki, Chirashi and Oshi.
Insider’s tip: In general, you are supposed to consume a piece of sushi in one bite so as not to destroy the chef’s beautiful work!
Japanese Snacks & Street Food
When wandering around Japan’s cities, there will be plenty of stalls and food vans where you can sample some of the tastiest street food in the world. The Japanese love food on a stick, so make sure to try some tasty Yakitori (similar to a kebab but on a stick of bamboo). Or if you fancy something a little different, you must try my personal favourite: Takoyaki. These are delicious deep-fried balls of seasoned octopus and veggies that are served piping hot with a drizzle of Japanese mayo on top. They are seriously good!
Japanese Desserts
For some, dessert is the highlight of a meal, and the Japanese definitely know how to do desserts. If you’re eating in a fancy restaurant, make sure to sample anmitsu. It’s kind of like jelly and ice cream but is served beautifully with pieces of fruit and agar jelly.
If you’re on the go or fancy a sweet snack, try mochi. These delicious balls of sweet sticky rice come in so many flavours, you’ll want to try them all! Another popular sweet treat is dorayaki. These are two squishy sponge pancakes with sweet bean paste sandwiched in between. You might recognise them from the anime Doraemon (whose name came from this dessert) or the viral internet bunny Oolong, as he balanced a dorayaki on his head!
Japanese Drinks
Finally, let’s talk drinks. The green tea in Japan is delicious, much better than any instant bag versions you’ll try outside of the country! Japanese green tea is produced by steaming rather than firing the leaves, which gives it a beautiful subtle taste. For those who fancy something a little stronger, there’s nihonshu, or what we Westerners call “sake”. This is a Japanese rice wine and is made in a similar way to beer.
Insider’s tip: It’s very rude to start drinking before everyone at your table also has a drink and is ready to raise their glasses for a toast, which is usually “Kampai!”
Well, now that you know everything there is to know to master Japanese food, ready for a trip to Japan? You will look like a professional traveller when ordering and eating the most representative Japanese dishes. And if you love what you are tasting, remember to show it to the chef by eating up until the last grain of rice and making some satisfactory noises. Sluuuuuurrrrp!
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