#the three fingers

[zakhartong-root]

Perhaps... Madness is all these lands deserve...

[modeus-the-misanthrope]

Elden ring Random Thoughts!

Ranni noticing something is off about the Tarnished seeking to pledge fealty to her. Like their actions are forced, fought for, like they are rebelling agaisnt unseen strings. When she digs deeper into why they want to help her. They remove their chest armor, pulling down their garments down to their waist to reveal the brand-like scars of the Three Fingers.

"Because I have a vested interest in you freeing the Lands Between from the meddling of Outer Gods."

[motherofdevils]

[sharkchunks]

When I finally admit I forgot what I was gonna eat and close the refrigerator door in shame.

[sir-virtem]

Probably someone already noticed this and ain't so mindblowing but I had being think that the greater will may had being a fire related god, let me explain.

If we drawn a reverse trayectory we can see some trends and vestigial characteristic in the stages of ways of gold

Starting with the golden order we know that they pray everything that is golden and they have forbiden the wielding of fire in anyform or at least until the shattering.

Moving back, the dragon cult kind of respect this too, excluding the draconic horse, there is not ancient dragon fire incantations, only lighting and even then is fundamented that lighting is golden and so belongs to the golden one.

Similarly, beyond them we don't see erdtree use of fire, but we see that fire has being always being glance by prophet.

And then we reach the crucible, in which case we find the "Aspect of the Crucible, Breath", that is quite literal a breath of yellow flames.

We not only see the crucible knight using this one, but the elden beast wield one of their own too. Not stoping there, is between the crucibles vestigials that we found the omens, that surprise surprise wield fire, they have a golden breath and can unleash a wraith's storm.

Same wraith that is used by the followers of the revenants and the revenants itself, beings that are concidered holy but are weak to healing instead. Thinking about it, wraiths are of a dark yellow, dark coloration can be see in others fires, blackflame and ghostflame, which are deeply linked with death and had lost their true colour due the sealing of destine death... so probably wraith true colour is different too, probably.

The point is that exist a transition from Crucible to Erdtree in which the prohibition of fire started (<- this is subject to changes for coming dlc) but this give an interesting extrapolition, if we apply it to the fingers.

In the right hand, the Two Fingers respect the trend and not use fire, the Three Fingers in the left hand have the Frenzy Flame that is a yellow flame and would align with the crucible's breath and wraiths.

Suming all this we can hypothesize then that fire was not only present but was relevant in the early ways of gold and so it's god, the greater will, too.

[chibelial]

“Divest yourself of everything… melt away the curses…”

[ayveeva]

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙏𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙁𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙬𝙚𝙡𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪. 𝙈𝙖𝙮 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙤𝙨 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙪𝙧𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣 𝙮𝙤𝙪.

A piece for my Tarnished in Elden Ring.

[the-hattur]

Frenzied flame type shit

I love it

[batcavescolony]

Katniss is such an unreliable narrator. She says "Then something unexpected happens. At least, I don't expect it because I don't think of District 12 as a place that cares about me" girl you deliver strawberries to the Mayor, you hunt and trade for the district, when you fell at Prim being chosen someone caught you, when you went to Prim people parted for you, when you volunteered EVERYONE stopped. Idk how to tell you but I think you're a pillar of the community.

[kerrste]

I can’t beleive they just walked around like this for the whole movie

[couldreallyeatawholecakerightnow]

Did not realize polls were timed...no wonder y'all be asking for rebogs

Anyway tell me about ur jewelry in the tags if u wanna!!

[nawrust]

Final touches (revamped)

[crocutacanidae]

A mashup of these two songs would be so cool

[eaissilyy]

Someone’s playing music.

Hello you can’t expect me not to feel anything when you placed Mogh the Sewer Guy™ and Morgott’s seal (sealed by Morgott the grace-given btw) in front of Frenzied jumping hell. There is no way they didn’t explore every corner of the sewer (so they can find the safe and least cold place to sleep… not to find the melting eyes disease) and found this abandoned catacombs with thousands corpses by accident.

Also this is perspective practice and then I found put that 1) I have no idea how it works 2) I make it up just to look believable enough and not look at it again 🙏🙏

[sir-virtem]

Baby wake up, The Tarnished Archeologist upload a new video!!!

[lamplore]

Oh yeah, big time. Blaming Nanaya as the sole villain of the story is super weird when it’s pretty clear there’s more going on.

First of all, Nanaya appears to share the same upturned smile as Shabriri, portrayed on the Shabriri’s Woe talisman. Given that the description of the talisman calls attention to the “flirtatious” little smirk, I think we’re meant to take this as a bit of a hint.

“The corners of his mouth are upturned in an almost flirtatious manner.”

With that in mind, I think it’s likely that the original Nanaya was killed and possessed in the same manner as Irina/Hyetta. She fits the bill, she’s said to be a young maiden who arrived and guided Midra, and we never see her eyes while she’s alive, so she may have even been blind. Clearly though, she was used by Shabriri/The Frenzied Flame to get Midra where they wanted him.

On that note, it’s not just Nanaya. Every inquisitor and commoner in Midra’s Manse is Frenzied, at least by the time we arrive. Did anyone else think that the Hornsent’s way of dealing with Midra was a little overly cruel, to the point of inefficiency? Yeah, the Inquisitors are said to use torture to extract confessions, but why keep Midra alive if they were aware of the threat posed by the Frenzied Flame? And they were aware. The Surging Frenzied Flame says that they Hornsent forbid the Flame’s use on account of it being able to burn spirits, which were sacred to them, and the Madding Hand tells us users of the Flame were “hunted down as heretics by their own brethren.” As we see outside the Manse though, most of the Inquisitors’ victims are simply beheaded. So why torture Midra? It seems pretty clear. Everything that happened at the Manse was a result of Shabriri or the FF manipulating things to try and make Midra into a Lord of Frenzied Flame. The torture, the punishment, making him endure for “Nanaya,” telling him he’s weak, and maybe even the death of his child, if the theories about Nanaya being pregnant in the painting are correct.

One consistent thing about the Frenzied Flame in Elden Ring: it’s always manipulative. It takes familiar shapes like Yura or Irina or maybe even the Three Fingers to try and draw us in, and then it uses our compassion against us. Vyke took the Flame to save his Maiden, and Shabriri asks us to do the same to spare Melina. Melina, though, tries to get us to see the bigger picture:

> “However ruined this world has become, however mired in torment and despair, life endures. Births continue. There is beauty in that, is there not?”

The Frenzied Flame must manipulate, because that sort of extreme nihilism requires a degree of delusion in order to be justified. It portrays itself as a selfless thing, when in reality, becoming the Lord of Frenzy means making the most selfish choice possible: to rather violently end every other living thing, present and future, because you define their existence by their suffering. Plus, preventing Melina from making her sacrifice means actively denying her the agency she regains when we leave Leyndell, while simultaneously threatening to end the world she has come to care for. No wonder she comes after us in the credits.

I got away from Midra and Nanaya there, sorry lol. These things have been on my mind recently, the way ER depicts these harmful ideologies via the FF and the Dung Eater… I have a big post about him coming soon ahaha

granted i still havent done a deep dive on nanaya and midra yet. and granted, she IS shady, and at very best misguided in her motives. but all the people going “nanaya TORTURED midra and TORMENTED him to get him to become the perfect host for the frenzied flame” is like. also not quite it… mostly due in part to almost all of midra’s suffering apparently due to either 1) the effects of the flame’s influence itself, and 2) the literal fucking inquisitors hunting him down, stalking around his front door, and yknow. Having literally impaled him

nanaya having likely been the one to guide him with the flame is one thing, but her role honestly also seems pretty similar to hyetta. a maiden of the frenzied flame. im not quite feeling a full nashandra situation again here. “the plea to Endure was a curse” is also pretty open, because, like. you would also tell your loved ones to Endure too, wouldn’t you?

im also honestly not all too confident in ER fans’ track record with misogyny at that…. like was she actually definitively a bad person. or are we just assuming this in full again