#the smaller that devoted group gets the closer we are to ending the apartheid state

[expfcultragreen]

The dalai lama doesnt tell tibetans to prove themselves by self-immolating in the name of a free tibet, he says PLEASE DONT

And one reason why is that he, a wise person, knows it can quickly be used by the opposition to make the colonized seem dangerously militant and capable of anything (if its suicide today, maybe tomorrow its suicide bombing...thats why that security guard had a gun trained on him, concerned he'd run inside and set other people on fire) and thereby sanitize their colonizers as being more civil and deserving of administrative oversight than (eg) the tibetans themslves, who are portrayed as irrational and primitive for being so nationalistic and personally/emotionally invested in their traditional ideology ie with their "religion"; china gets to turn around and say, only deadly cultists do this so this is a cult and we should arrest the dalai lama.......it just becomes a wedge to further destabilize the occupied.

Anyone posting stuff like what cuntmunism said, youre a hypocrite for not following suit (and self-immolating to please the palestinians it would please) if youre wanting to judge anyone openly saying not to. Fuck off, you idiots waste every ounce of energy other leftists devote to you

Serious people who arent in a fully delusional state from an active ongoing genocide against them do not think this is good praxis for palestine, finding it in any way satisfying that he was so painfully desperate, is exceptionally bad optics: ignoring the problem of "callously appearing to lowkey want more people to do the same" (misery loves company, is a pretty antisocial stance) and focusing just on the statement of self-immolation itself, most people think you would have to be crazy to set yourself on fire, so now your position (free palestine) is a crazy persons position, as in, "only crazy people think that" or remotely understand the people who think that (the people who think that being, crazy people who do crazy things "no one" would ever do in their right mind) and maybe the ideology of "free palestine" is actually lethal to engage with! (Which is more true the more of a hero you are to palestinians for setting yourself on fire for them) so if ideas will kill you for thinking them you better NOT think them, is the basic math of the average matrix person

Im aware that to a particular sort of westerner its SOOOOOO BADASS to see this kind of event livestreamed, so it would be of high appeal to take the stance that the people who dont want more to happen are just being racist against palestinians or something

.........But ok youre right, it didnt "achieve nothing" if it indeed warmed the cockles of some exceptionally traumatized people, that he had cared enough to commit suicide for them...btw should suicides become a method of cheering people up? Does it REALLY make sense that it would cheer anyone up, yet-another appallingly untimely death?

Thats a pretty grim thing to find any joy in, someone feeling compelled to prove they mean what theyre saying by dying in front of you as punctuation

I dont think approving of that scenario speaks highly of the moral character of those who approve

If setting yourself on fire worked, it would have worked the first time

People cheering it on are openly asking for more self-immolations

why? Resentment that our other nonsuicidal actions arent working fast enough either, while we get to live outside active bombing range?

"Theres someone who really CARED" yeah, a hero, dead from paradigm. How many more would make you happy, how many would alleviate your angst

No matter how many, it wont work on the people waging the war, so why are you really asking for more

Only the most profound hearts will be compelled to heed this horrific implicit pressure to prove they cared enough to die like a palestinian, and who will be left to advocate then? People who dont really care, presumably (actually necessarily, by this metric)

As with any large demographic, ive seen palestinians do a lot of things, not every one of those things was laudable or motivated by a strongly ethical grip on reality, so "cheering on people committing grisly suicide in their honor" doesnt stand out as automatically awesome just because exceptionally oppressed people are doing it

But go off, talk hard.....sure, whatever, tell the most compassionate people among us that the most compassionate thing they can do is kill themselves, very "cool"