#the skeevy af implications of calling the jedi baby snatchers while ignoring the parallels to real-life religious cultures

[starbeltconstellation]

👆So important.

Friendly reminder: the Jedi are not a "cult of baby snatchers," and it's pretty wildly offensive to call them that or compare them to the First Order kidnapping infants, replacing their names with call numbers, and raising them to be stormtroopers.

All the Order does is identify Force Sensitives and ask if their families wish for them to be trained. Families make the the choice to keep or give up their children by themselves. TPM makes this clear when Qui-Gon asks Anakin if he wants to be a Jedi, clearly identifying that it's a "hard life" and "won't be easy," and asks Shmi if that's a life she wants for him. It's also clearly standard practice, as we see with Plo Koon & Ahsoka in TCW.

Jedi children keep their birth names. Their family information is on file for them to check if they wish. They're allowed (and encouraged, even!) to have culturally-important clothing, traditions, markings, and jewelry. They're not being denied that knowledge or forced to stay.

Yan Dooku is named COUNT Dooku specifically because he voluntarily left the Order, returned to his homeworld, and reclaimed his birth heritage and title. He knew Serenno was his homeworld and he'd known since he was a child, because that wasn't information the Jedi hid from him.

Luminara and Barris Offee have traditional Mirialan facial tattoos and there's a practice of Mirialan Jedi taking on Mirialan padawans that the Order clearly accepts. Ahsoka and Shaak Ti wear their Akul Teeth proudly on their montrals. Quinlan Vos wears facepaint. Depa Billaba has her Mark of Illumination piercings despite being too young to have formed a genuine connection with Chalactan culture when she was rescued. Jedi do not deny children their names, families, or connections to their birth cultures. It's exactly the opposite, and I really need fandom to start thinking criticially about this issue.

[fantastic-nonsense]

Friendly reminder: the Jedi are not a "cult of baby snatchers," and it's pretty wildly offensive to call them that or compare them to the First Order kidnapping infants, replacing their names with call numbers, and raising them to be stormtroopers.

All the Order does is identify Force Sensitives and ask if their families wish for them to be trained. Families make the the choice to keep or give up their children by themselves. TPM makes this clear when Qui-Gon asks Anakin if he wants to be a Jedi, clearly identifying that it's a "hard life" and "won't be easy," and asks Shmi if that's a life she wants for him. It's also clearly standard practice, as we see with Plo Koon & Ahsoka in TCW.

Jedi children keep their birth names. Their family information is on file for them to check if they wish. They're allowed (and encouraged, even!) to have culturally-important clothing, traditions, markings, and jewelry. They're not being denied that knowledge or forced to stay.

Dooku is named COUNT Dooku specifically because he voluntarily left the Order, returned to his homeworld, and reclaimed his birth heritage and title. He knew Serenno was his homeworld and he'd known since he was a child, because that wasn't information the Jedi hid from him.

Luminara and Barris Offee have traditional Mirialan facial tattoos and there's a practice of Mirialan Jedi taking on Mirialan padawans that the Order clearly accepts. Ahsoka and Shaak Ti wear their Akul Teeth proudly on their montrals. Quinlan Vos wears facepaint. Depa Billaba has her Mark of Illumination piercings despite being too young to have formed a genuine connection with Chalactan culture when she was rescued. Jedi do not deny children their names, families, or connections to their birth cultures. It's exactly the opposite, and I really need fandom to start thinking criticially about this issue.

[team-jedi]

 For those who do read the Thrawn novels, or those who don’t. In his ascendancy series (pre-empire days/rebels series) which is essentially a prequel series for him. It’s revealed that his people, they take children who are force sensitive from their families, then erase their memories so they Don’t have to deal with crying children who are home sick. Then they deny them their family history, and take away their family name.

For context for that last part, Thrawn’s people, the Chiss they have a three part naming system so for Thrawn it’s Mitth’Raw’Nuruodo (last name’first’then idk the last part, it’s like an occupation or something) But for the Chiss girls who are taken away it’s just first name’occupation. So just Raw’Nuruodo (using Thrawn as an example) and basically tell them that they have no families (See a character named Thalis from the ascendancy series for a little more detail)

The Chiss then force these girls to work in awful conditions. Yet I don’t really see anyone criticizing them for their actions. But they do what people blindly blame the Jedi for and don’t get the same treatment, so yeah.

And in my opinion I don’t think the families have a choice in the matter, they have to give up their children no matter what (this is loosely based on what Thrawn says about it when he talks about his sister in the ascendancy novels and his talk with Vader in the Thrawn: Alliances novel). Whereas the Jedi give them that option.

Friendly reminder: the Jedi are not a "cult of baby snatchers," and it's pretty wildly offensive to call them that or compare them to the First Order kidnapping infants, replacing their names with call numbers, and raising them to be stormtroopers.

All the Order does is identify Force Sensitives and ask if their families wish for them to be trained. Families make the the choice to keep or give up their children by themselves. TPM makes this clear when Qui-Gon asks Anakin if he wants to be a Jedi, clearly identifying that it's a "hard life" and "won't be easy," and asks Shmi if that's a life she wants for him. It's also clearly standard practice, as we see with Plo Koon & Ahsoka in TCW.

Jedi children keep their birth names. Their family information is on file for them to check if they wish. They're allowed (and encouraged, even!) to have culturally-important clothing, traditions, markings, and jewelry. They're not being denied that knowledge or forced to stay.

Yan Dooku is named COUNT Dooku specifically because he voluntarily left the Order, returned to his homeworld, and reclaimed his birth heritage and title. He knew Serenno was his homeworld and he'd known since he was a child, because that wasn't information the Jedi hid from him.

Luminara and Barris Offee have traditional Mirialan facial tattoos and there's a practice of Mirialan Jedi taking on Mirialan padawans that the Order clearly accepts. Ahsoka and Shaak Ti wear their Akul Teeth proudly on their montrals. Quinlan Vos wears facepaint. Depa Billaba has her Mark of Illumination piercings despite being too young to have formed a genuine connection with Chalactan culture when she was rescued. Jedi do not deny children their names, families, or connections to their birth cultures. It's exactly the opposite, and I really need fandom to start thinking criticially about this issue.

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Friendly reminder: the Jedi are not a "cult of baby snatchers," and it's pretty wildly offensive to call them that or compare them to the First Order kidnapping infants, replacing their names with call numbers, and raising them to be stormtroopers.

All the Order does is identify Force Sensitives and ask if their families wish for them to be trained. Families make the the choice to keep or give up their children by themselves. TPM makes this clear when Qui-Gon asks Anakin if he wants to be a Jedi, clearly identifying that it's a "hard life" and "won't be easy," and asks Shmi if that's a life she wants for him. It's also clearly standard practice, as we see with Plo Koon & Ahsoka in TCW.

Jedi children keep their birth names. Their family information is on file for them to check if they wish. They're allowed (and encouraged, even!) to have culturally-important clothing, traditions, markings, and jewelry. They're not being denied that knowledge or forced to stay.

Yan Dooku is named COUNT Dooku specifically because he voluntarily left the Order, returned to his homeworld, and reclaimed his birth heritage and title. He knew Serenno was his homeworld and he'd known since he was a child, because that wasn't information the Jedi hid from him.

Luminara and Barris Offee have traditional Mirialan facial tattoos and there's a practice of Mirialan Jedi taking on Mirialan padawans that the Order clearly accepts. Ahsoka and Shaak Ti wear their Akul Teeth proudly on their montrals. Quinlan Vos wears facepaint. Depa Billaba has her Mark of Illumination piercings despite being too young to have formed a genuine connection with Chalactan culture when she was rescued. Jedi do not deny children their names, families, or connections to their birth cultures. It's exactly the opposite, and I really need fandom to start thinking criticially about this issue.