#the real reason i don't like book's characters being vers

[forcebookish]

where's my "go on top... do stuff to him" post because that plays in my head all the time

[rei-hunt]

Hi, previous post get few more likes than i had expect. I really thankful for yours observe to same character which getting my eyes too. But here is two moment that confused me.

First. i'd liked one post which i can't find in likes of account. and i been glad if that person just blocked me. its bc i don't wanna be a trigger to self censoring for someone. This will been important in second.

Second. I was sight a repost with historical hetalia's tag. After it i have mood up cause my interest with history and culture as if has been recognized. And later i was seriously become to mind about how deep will should my research for being accept by me like historical/cultural hetalia. And which medias could been relatably as historical. Then if dig deeply, which referencies would been actual for an historical accurate and which shall not been use. By what rules should selecting all this. And would am i want fit it all on my works, even i delighting by autors of historical content. And then i beginning to mind of my role to my works, why i want creating, about roles of character in my fiction, why they are matched as it.

It's good loaded me. And in final i been to get an art block with anxien of being actively in hetalia's fandom. But i don't want becoming to ghost and painfully expecting on content with wales definitely.

And first step to not transform in sad potato will be my explanation for random users seeing my blog:

I'm inspirited by history and culture of Wales. But i'm not creating an historical/cultural Hetalia cause my feels and individual get in works. I'm confident that welsh is can representing they self. And if you want learn somewhat about Wales and welsh, you are welcome to blogs and other mediacreators that popularizing history and culture of them. Don't address to me with this even i'm not bad drawing.

Also i want to say, due to fact that my feels and relevant for me themes get in my works, the characterization of brit bros is not fit in events of real life. And for don't been mad by my fiction add a #loosely historical AU by rh tag to filter tags in settings of your account.

As well, i'll post with sourse and other information in sideblog from now on and add link to info-post under art. And there i'll post some stuff about welsh culture or history/ All my sourses from internet. Usually i haven't access to archives and history books.

AUs will be taged like '___ AU'. If i'll use materials from other fandoms for allusion or pastiche i'll to tag it like 'materials from ___'.

All my incest ships art will be hiddened under a cut and have tag with cw. In incest ships will taked ALL pairings with brit bros, without keep on or not by incest plot. Reason in canon where brits are brothers. If in art will be keeped incest plot in precut will has been added incest plot

sorry for long post. russian ver here for them who knows russian this is preferable bc i can mistake in english

[ae-azile]

I feel like we saw the same post, tbh, since I saw many of those headcanons put down in the tags. Like, I don't disagree with opposing interpretations either since so much interpretation is needed with Kim, but to say a few of the interpretations listed above are OOC fabrications due to being interpreted by fans kind of invalidates their view of him as well. Just because they see him differently doesn't make that viewpoint less of an interpretation than an opposing view. My only experiences with cat!Kim is that it's a joke nodding towards the bar scene so I can't speak on any meta or fics about it. As for trans!Kim, I feel neutral as well since there is no stated proof on his gender identity.

His sexual orientation and sexual/romantic preferences go unstated as well. However, I do tend to headcanon him as demisexual/demiromantic. Or if not that by nature, so subconsciously traumatized by his upbringing that he does not let anyone get close to him unless someone manages to slip past those defenses (since there is canon evidence towards that due to how guarded he gets around people). Chay is the slightest exception.

Despite that interpretation, I accept that it's mine and others may feel differently. Hell, I enjoy reading other interpretations since Kim is so interesting to interpret! I feel like - in some ways - he is the easiest to write in fic since you have the ability to mold certain aspects of him. Chay as well due to his age, the fact he faced so much shit at the end of the series, and his whole life changed. That changes a person. I was more invested in KinnPorsche and VegasPete while watching the show but got sucked into writing KimChay because of their open ending and the wiggle room left to interpret who their characters were and/or were becoming.

When it comes to topping/bottoming and dominant/submissive (different things, but I have the same point about both): I feel like a lot of people tend to read relationships - and more so homosexual relationships - with such strict roles. These strict roles simply aren't cut and dry in the majority of relationships in real life and I feel like Kim gets put into a dominant top role because he's older, not as outwardly emotional, and more prone to violence due to the family he is a part of. The fact is, he has no canon basis for sex. He could be a complete virgin (actually a fan of the virgin!Kim headcanon). He could be a top, he could be a bottom, he could be vers. All I feel is that he would need to feel comfortable enough to be vulnerable with a sexual partner, and when Kim gets vulnerable, he gets soft.

As for autistic Kim, I feel pretty strongly about this one as well. Again, the way he conducts himself can be contributed to his upbringing and trauma, which could make him guarded. But the masking, practiced responses, having an analytical, logical internal monologue, iffy eye contact, and shutting down when he's overwhelmed or someone he is interacting with goes off script tells me there is more to it than that. I don't know if Jeff has spoken about this particular interpretation of Kim, but if he hasn't, idk why this interpretation or any other would be because of Jeff and not Kim? I don't quite understand it, other than assuming they may mean the show's version of Kim and the book series' version of Kim. I probably won't read the books for various reasons. But from what I have heard, the show and the source material are separate entities. So I take Kim as he is presented to me in the show. Jeff plays a part in this presentation, but so do the episode writers, directors, the editors, etc.

Again, the autism interpretation is valid, even if it isn't technically confirmed canon. For most who do see Kim this way, it is likely rooted in education, frequent exposure, or personal experience with autism. And to those who put down this interpretation and disregard it, I have two issues.

1. I feel like this comes from the idea that someone with autism cannot be tough, protective, capable, or ambitious. This is simply not true.

2. It is also likely extremely hurtful for autistic people who see Kim in themselves to have their interpretation dismissed or treated as inaccurate.

Idk, the TL;DR version of this is that I've seen this too, OP. I was surprised by it because with some of it I was like, "It's just a personal preference. Why comment on it if you don't like it?" and then on others I am like, "How do you NOT see it?"

anyway, im sorry for the rants. i'm just tired of people shaming and attacking certain interpretations of kimchay and portrayals of their characters and dynamics. arguments that giving kim's character any softness or writing him as a bottom is "confusing him with jeff" arguments that cat!kim (a fun headcanon born from him canonically leaving dead bodies for chay like a cat leaving mice) is writing him as jeff, arguments that headcanoning him as autistic or trans is ooc and bad...

shit like this is what ruins fandom for people and makes it unwelcoming.

i am autistic. i headcanon kim as autistic because i relate to him deeply and see myself in him.

i write him as a somewhat submissive bottom because i like the idea of characters who are used to violence and desperate for control, giving up control and letting themselves be taken care of. and because i interpret his behavior and expressions in some of his scenes with chay as him being stunned and overwhelmed by chay's love and attention, and i like that.

i write him learning how to accept gentleness and love because my interpretation of his character is as someone who is unfamiliar with these things, touch starved, lonely and scared of attachment, and it feels healing to show him receiving all of these things.

we shouldn't have to defend our interpretations, headcanons and preferences, yet here we are.

[masterhandss]

Personally I don't see what you see in Geordo. He seems like such a scumbag to me and is the least likable charater in the whole series. He is always trying to get her alone to push her into things of a sexual/ more romantic nature without taking how she really feels into consideration. Like he "really wants her" and thats enough for him without caring what she really wants. Honestly he is the borderline non-con villian in my mind.

I mean, it's okay if you feel like that. To each their own.

Hmmm when I think about Geordo being sexually aggressive towards Katarina, I only really just think of the anime. The manga is a much more moe-fied and toned down version of the novels, and the novels does an okay job at balancing his desires for Katarina in all aspects. I'm not saying he doesn't have that trait in the other two mediums, I just think that they aren't as intense as the anime, so as someone who consumes all three versions I just tilt my head and go "huh." Of course I'm sure there are people who read the manga and novels that still feel uncomfortable about his behavior and that's valid too.

-> light novel spoilers ahead <-

tldr, there is a lot more going on to him than just someone who offers sweet words and questionable invitations to Katarina's ears, this may not be noticeable or acceptable to some people but we get to know more about how he thinks whenever the novels puts us in his point of view. You're free to dislike him as much as you want, but I like him & don't see him as a scumbag; and here's why:

I at least find it okay that Geordo is very serious about his pursuits for her because he is aware that she is dense and will not get it until you spell it in the sky. Everyone is just walking eggshells around Katarina hoping that the girl would just develop feelings for one of them to win the harem olympics. He knows that being dealt with a good card isn't enough, so he's actively taking action in order to win her heart. I mean I don't always agree with his methods either, like the "fait accompli" line or constantly inviting her to his room alone, but really, how much of that is something he really means to do vs how much of that is his excessive flirting + our minds assuming that he really means to claim her in that way?

Lines like that are really popular with japanese fans because it makes Geordo look "sexy" and "forward", which they enjoy in their fictional stories. He knows that his position gives him an advantage so he'll try to play his cards right and use it to increase his chances in victory.

It actually reminds me of a scene from the Hamefura StoryMe game, (don't really know how canon it is but I remember the JP ver. was advertised by @/hamhura) where Geordo indirectly asked Katarina how to woo a girl he really likes, and Katarina thinking he was referring to Maria, gives all the things he usually does in order to win her heart (visit her home, give her gift, dance with her in parties, be really forward about your feelings etc). I'm not saying Katarina approves of the ways Geordo attempts to win her heart, but there's some hilarity in knowing that Geordo already had and is constantly trying all the known ways to win over a girl in the world from a young age, and still has nothing to show for it. Like no awareness, much less any *feelings* lmao. So trying to make it obvious that he is interested in her romantically and sexually seems like the next logical step to him. I mean if you go by Geordo's logic and considering the time period this takes place in, he's pretty confident that he can get Katarina to love him back and they are engaged anyways so in his head he's in safe waters to attempt to make teases about such advancements if it gives him the smallest chance that Katarina would become at least aware of him through it.

Of course I know that stuff like that won't fly here in the real world, but maybe that's why I'm so lenient personally when it comes to his (debatably) sexual teases and advances, because it's a fictional story for a japanese audience. Doesn't mean I would approve any advances like that if it happens to me, it's just that it's hard to take his actions seriously when Katarina or the story doesn't take them seriously. Like, the girl would be pushed down to a bed by RufuSora and gives her a hickey and she still thinks the man is out for her blood.

He wouldn't even be entirely wrong, knowing the identities of the characters who Katarina knows has romantic interest in her in the novels, actions does speak louder than words when it comes to her. Like I said, whether or not Geordo really means what he says when the story teases the readers with sexual implications in his words and action depends on the reader in my opinion. They are there, I wont pretend they don't but I'd argue about the level of intent depending on what scene you're talking about.

The only scenes on the top of my head where he is very abrasive towards Katarina is the "fait accompli" scene, the Book scene form the anime (S1 EP8), saying he wants to lock her in his room (LN6) and the multiple times Geordo had invited her in his room at night alone (LN6 and LN8, i think).

I've already explained why I am okay with both Keith and Geordo's Book scenes from episode 8 of the first season because they are accurate representations of an exaggerated and unhinged versions of their desires towards Katarina so I won't bore you with those details again.

He mentioned in Volume 6 that he wants to lock Katarina in his room forever and keep her light to himself, which alarmed a few people when the book came out, but he said that in a moment where he feels super grateful and loving towards her because she knew how tired he was despite his fake face and without even saying anything. It was a moment where he felt so infatuated towards her that he wished the moment where he gets to rest in her arms would last forever, thus he made such a comment. I make it sound more dramatic than it was in Volume 6, it was just a quick comment honestly lmao.

For people who don't read the novels, that last part looks very sus and raises a few red flags I know, but to be fair we can't definitively say what his intentions are because Katarina never commits to those visits. Katarina has actually become wary of those invitations, because Keith and Mary have warned her that Geordo's intentions are sexual, but I'm not really trusting the word of the two people who are most distrustful and antagonistic to Geordo. They could be right, of course, but who can really say? We assume that they are correct because they care about Katarina and are wary of Geordo, but hamefura('s novels) is full of unreliable narrators anyways, it's not like Keith or Mary would consider the possibility of it being anything else because when it comes to the third prince they always fear the worst case scenario.

If you think about it, Geordo is probably aware that winning her over with a "fait accompli" won't work at all because it'll put him in a position that will make other people push him for the throne (which he doesn't want) or could ruin his reputation in high society if Katarina or her family react to it negatively. I'm not Geordo though, so I can't really say if he even have such fears and doubts in the first place, that's just my assessment based on the obstacles he has. On the outside he is really sure of himself and confident (which he arguably deserves) and on the inside he is very careful and insecure when it comes to Katarina.

Also like, spoilers but for someone who is very forward when it comes to his physical advances, Geordo is super weak when he is in the receiving end of those touches. He gets super embarrassed and easily flustered when its Katarina who is touching him, as if implying that to some extent that he's all just talk lmao.

I don't really agree that Geordo doesn't care about what Katarina feels at all, in fact his inner dilemma in the novels is that he doesn't know what to do because in every step he takes he might do something that could ruin his image in Katarina's eyes, be it pursuing or abandoning the throne or looking like a monster in front of her. He even halts his plans to make advances towards her during the Keith Kidnapping Arc, but threw it away because he knows how much finding Keith means to Katarina. He puts what Katarina want and doesn't want as his priority, so when what she feels is unclear that's when he acts on his own intuition. The only reason Geordo feels so confident to advance towards her sexually is because Katarina never rejected him before (because she doesn't know what they mean, and all of this is for the sake of simply making her aware in the first place)

I'm not trying to make anyone think that one has to read all the books in order to understand him, I think the manga does okay at conveying his feelings too. The anime really prioritizes on making him look "sexy" for the japanese female audience, so anything he does is sprinkled with spice whether we like it or not.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm overanalyzing all his actions just to justify them, everyone has the right to be uncomfortable with his advances if it seems too much for you. It's just that his actions, while over the top and unnecessary, are done to please the type of audience that hamefura caters to, and it's hard to take him completely seriously when the story doesn't either in my opinion. Doesn't mean he's right or that any of it is okay, but it's his method of trying to put a dent on Katarina's bakashield. When you're in a race versus your friends who Katarina all loves equally, he's gonna use whatever card he can get in order to win.

I like Geordo; I like how much of his feelings for Katarina forces him to reexamine himself and realize that he isn't a perfect prince at all, that he has lots of problems and flaws that he needs to work out in order to be someone worthy of her. I like the way he falls more and more in love with her in every interaction they have because he finally gets to have a genuinely and caring interaction with someone. I like how Geordo wants to do better and be better for Katarina and the people around him, and he wants to be able to thank Katarina directly for that through being able to show his love. I like that despite how much of a chad he acts in front of her, he's a blushing mess at the thought of Katarina returning his feelings. I find it funny when his "sexual advances" fails and gets thwarted because he's trying them on the densest person and most protected lady to ever live. I like how Geordo is so head-over-heals in love with her and how much comfort and warmth she brings to him by simply being her caring and bubbly self.

I guess it's just a matter of different perspectives. If you find him unlikeable or a villain, then you do you. I try to explain why I personally excuse his actions, but I know it wont fly with everyone. We all see each character differently and absorb the material in different ways. In fact it's probably a bad idea for me to defend him with material that isn't the anime nor manga yet lmao. I mean I'm not that much of a fan of Mary anymore, and I'm kinda scared and wary of her, but I know people don't see her the way I do and I'm okay with that.

Maybe its just me, who is the kind of person who just goes with the flow and doesn't think too hard because it's all fiction anyways

It's hard to tell all this from simply watching the anime, so I laid all my feelings down in hopes that someone out there would understand why I like him so much.

Thank you for the ask, you can ask more questions or call me out if I said anything insensitive or wrong, I know a lot of this is me overanalyzing things which might look like I'm jus stretching. As someone who is aware of the things to come in Hamefura X, I can say that I am both excited and nervous as to how everyone will react for the direction of Geordo's character.

[axupodz]

30 Amazing Questions Only A Genius Could Answer.

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As requested by @judyxd26

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MY OWN OPINION. DONT @ ME

JUST MONIKA (I see you there)

Probably Yuri. The Shy/Yandere anime trope has been used a little too much recently.

Has to be "Your Reality". I gives me the feels everytime. EVERYTIME.

"Sayo-nara" gotta be my least fav. Not because its bad or anything. It just gives me scary flashbacks of Sayori. TOO SPOOPY FOR ME.

Most afraid? Hmm, if ur talking about the jumpscares, I would say Natsuki when she snaps her neck. (DID I SAY THERE'S SPOILERS HERE?)

I would say Monika. I always try too hard for attention :3

Look most familiar?? First of all, im a dude. *LOOKING AT MALE VER DDLC CAST* ok, its either Sayori or Monika. Can't decide tbh.

I used my first name BOI. GOTTA HAVE THE FULL IMMERSION.

10/10. Despite the warnings everytime you open the game and at the game page, I never took it to consideration. Sayori's death really took me by surprise.

Sayori maybe? MC's texts during that part was deep. If deleting Monika is considered a death, I would say thats the most saddest one. Monika realised the mistakes she made and she regretted them. But it was too late as she was slowly getting deleted. On a side note: I didnt delete her in the end, her conversations were very interesting. My sister forced me to delete her tho :/

(Lets keep the next few questions short, Im trying to get some sleep 😪) Sayori: I like that she's optimistic. But she's too sensitive i'd say.

Short girls are cute. Manga IS literature. DONE.

I like that she's shy and all but im not very fond of the idea of playing with knifes. DONE.

SHE IS BEST GIRL. SHE IS THE ONLY CHARACTER THAT FEELS REAL. SHE DESERVES A ROUTE. SHE IS A GODDESS SEND FROM THE HEAVENS. SHE THICC BOI, FIGHT ME. (I should have been a little more serious😅 There is more reasons at Question 29.)

Monika's poem. DONE.

NOPE, IM A HYPROCRITE. TRIED ONCE, FAILED BADLY.

I would if I COULD ACTUALLY FINISH READING MY BOOKS FOR ONCE. *glares at the full collection of Harry Potter at the corner of the room*

Pretty often. Not enough to fix my spelling tho.

Once. The English Club at school. Pretty boring.

Like I said before, im a dude. Soo yea, MC is my only option.

Yuri. For obvious reasons.

There isnt a character that I "want" to be a guy but i'd say Sayori looks fine as both genders.

I havent seen any fanart of Monika as an animal yet. So, Monika then.

If Monika had a route I would totally pick that one. Since she doesnt, i would pick Natsuki's.

Probably Stephen King

They did such an amazing indie game last year. Can't wait for the next one.

Yuri i guess. My yandere mode becomes active sometimes :3

Actually I have. Not the best experience.

(Skip this one if you want to. It's veryyy long.WARNING, It's about to get serious) I actually sat through a good 50+ minutes talking with Monika.In that time, she tells me how every time I quit the game, she feels like she's "dying", and enters a "living Hell" full of static screaming, flashing and darkness, and despite the fact that she feels as if her mind is disjointed in this space, she's still aware enough to remember it all every time we come back. There's also the fact she's fully aware all of her "friends" are simply mindless programs lacking free-will whose sole purpose in existence is falling in love with the player.I quit and loaded up the game a few times, and she asks you multiple times to please not put her through that torment, but eventually just says she'll have to relent that you can't always have the game open.Then I kept going, and got Sayori to tell me how she's super appreciative that I took the time to get to know them all and help them with their problems (however little I actually did), and that they all loved me. Credits are rolling, and I notice that the CG's aren't being deleted, until the very ending where the entirety of the Main Menu is deleted.I fucking broke Monika's heart and she subjected herself to living in an eternal near-death hellish blackness, and still the last thing she does for me is sing me a song about how much she loves me and wishes I'd been able to love her back. Deleting her causes her pain, but she was still conscious of everything and in control of the game files. Quitting puts her in a near-death state filled with suffering.I know it's only an AR game and none of it's real, but I'm literally sitting here with tears in my eyes because no matter what you do, Monika is doomed to an existence of agony, and the last thing she believes is that we probably hated her.I can't handle that shit, man, I didn't need to know. Couldn't you even let us believe there was some solace?

The game broke me psychologically and left me traumatized for 3 days.Sayori's arc made me feel sick to my stomach and sad, Yuri's arc scared me, and Monika's arc broke my heart and made me sad again.What part of psychology makes depressing horror enjoyable? Why did I love and enjoy a game that hurts? Maybe because the characters are so real and I've grown attached to them? I don't know. Either way I love DDLC, the community, and the fan content, but I don't know why. I guess it's because the main grip of the game is the 4 girls themselves, you grow so attached to them that it feels like your losing close friends. Making characters in any video game likable is hard but this game is an example of it done right, adding along with the story makes DDLC truly an experience.( finally, im done. I need a rest rn before I have a mental breakdown)