#the ore snatcher

[convexicalcrow]

lmao joe has sent cub his outline of his defence of the ore snatcher in case doc decides to go after him for it one day XD

[cattimeswithjellie]

The Ore Snatcher: Redstone Genius?

(I put this whole thing on Reddit first because I am trying to learn how to use Reddit, but it turns out I am about as good at Reddit as I am at Twitter, which is to say, I don't even know if it successfully posted or not. At least I know Tumblr gets me.)

So I've been working on a stream recapping project lately, trying to watch a bunch of streams and write recaps for posterity and for people who don't have time to keep up with every stream (or who want to know timestamps for certain parts.) That means I've been closely watching a lot of streams, and I just realized that there's a huge flaw in Doc's narrative about the many crimes of the Ore Snatcher.

According to Doc, the most heinous crime of the Ore Snatcher involves the second stolen diamond ore block, which was taken out from under a powered line of redstone. When the block was taken, Doc tells us, it must have triggered the machine in such a way as to cause a malfunction. He knows this because when Doc discovered the missing block, he also found a deployed armor stand and disarray in the works of the machine. It's a good theory, but it's completely wrong. Doc actually missed the second deepslate block for an entire day, and it didn't cause any damage.

Take a look at Doc's stream from June 8, last Saturday. He goes to the armor trim shop and shows Chat the first missing block, the decorative block from the top layer of the machine. At 44:47, he swings the camera momentarily into the guts of the machine and we get a clear view of the second missing block. There is no armor stand deployed and the machine seems functionally fine. The Ore Snatcher has struck again, but they did not break the machine.

Several hours later, Ren is livestreaming and Scar is hanging out with him. They fly over to the armor trim shop so Ren can recount the sordid tale of ore-snatching and pig-murder he has been watching unfold. The machine appears to be unchanged since Doc's visit. Ren shows off the missing block. Scar laughs, saying that is the worst spot to steal a block from and that it would be one thing if it was down in like the- He trails off at 2:17:06 into the stream, having just noticed the second missing block. (The timing is really, really good, even from a guy with excellent comedic timing and a good eye for block detail, but that's another line of speculation entirely.)

The pair continue to hang around the machine, talking about Doc's troubles and all manner of other things. They also continue to look around the machine itself. At 2:21:50 , Ren touches the note block for the "Wild" armor trim and it triggers. The machine goes into action and dispenses a helmet on an armor stand. Ren and Scar are both nervous about this, but nothing else happens and Ren decides that the worst thing that probably happened is that he just accidentally bought an armor trim. Ren and Scar hang around the machine for another half hour or so, but they are mostly talking about pets and swapping YouTube videos and I did not see them interact with the machine again.

The next thing we hear about the Ore Snatcher is several hours after the end of Ren's stream, when Doc takes to Twitter to yell that he found another missing block. There's a screencap of the same missing block that Ren and Scar found, the same block he didn't notice during his morning stream. Only now, surprise surprise, there is a loose armor stand that Doc has no explanation for and some messed up inventory in the machine!

Based on all this evidence I contend that the Ore Snatcher is, in fact, very good at what they are doing, good enough to snatch a diamond ore block out from under a powered redstone line without triggering the machine (or good enough to fix it if the machine did trigger.) They have now touched Doc's redstone at least four times, but the only damage was from Ren touching the unfinished machine and dropping an armor stand well after the block was gone. That means that all the wilder theories Doc has been floating about the Ore Snatcher (most notably that the Ore Snatcher is two people, one who is good at redstone and one who is not) are based on faulty data. He needs to go back to the basics and try again.

[ivys-garden]

Going away for a week. Before I go I'm gonna do some quick deduction of the Ore Snatcher case, going through the evidence for and against every hermit

Confirmed Innocent:

Cleo

Scar

Pearl (admitted it wasn't her on Reddit, thanks Jack)

● Ren - husbands don't do that to each other. Also this isn't the kinda prank Ren does. Through him and False were acting suspicious in Pearls new vid, perhaps the Neighbourhood is up to Something

● False - she was kinda sus in pearls vid, is kinda a prank she'd pull. Probably would only be involved if all the neighbourhood was involved

● Beef - has a motive through big wood, but his pranks are more in your face than this

● Skizz - see Beef

● Mumbo - not his style of prank (honestly he doesn't do much at all). wouldn't get involved unless someone started it first

● Grian - absolutely would not keep it a secret.

● Gem - isn't afraid of Doc and might want to prove it, but she wouldn't be this subtle about it. She also wouldn't keep it a secret, she'd tell everyone

● Wels - hasn't been playing much atm

● Etho - wouldn't commit to it this long

● Jevin - could be him. No evidence either way

● Xb - see jevin

● Xisuma - only involved if its the neighbourhood who's doing it together

● Stress - see Xisuma.

● Tango - see jevin.

● Impulse - see jevin.

● Bdubbs - could be trying to get a new case for court. But he'd never be this subtle about it, besides he'd be the one getting sued which ruins the point

●Keralis - see jevin

● Zedaph - is busy being silly

● Joel - would not keep it up this long. Would brag about it

● Hypno - see jevin

● Joe - see jevin

● Cub - most people say its him, he's got the redstone knowledge to bypass an alarm and is trying to frame Scar.

But: how does framing Scar help him if he's the Snatcher? It's drawing MORE attention to him and he doesn't have to be the Snatcher to frame Scar. And aside from his word the Snatcher has done nothing to frame Scar (the typo was never confirmed to be an attempt to frame sacrifice, only theorised. If it was a serious attempt there'd be way more and the messages would be spread over multiple signs)

You also don't need redstone knowledge to bypass docs alarm or to break the Ore blocks. Aside from this nothing points to it being Cub

● Iskall - this is absolutely his style of prank. We know he can keep pranks secret for a long time due to the prank war. We know he plans his pranks beforehand. He is confident enough to steal a block as Doc is working on the redstone. He has been undergoing “studies” of the hermits,this could be another he's doing. He COMITS to the hit hard, Joel's git the love letters to prove it.

So yeah, top subjects ATM

1)Multiple People (either as a group or as independent agents)

2)Iskall

3)The Neighbourhood, Collectively (Cleos statement would still be true because THEY wouldn't be the Ore Snatcher, the NEIGHBOURHOOD is the Ore snatcher)

Wildcard Pick: someone doing a mission possible. Perhaps even Doc himself testing his audience

[thatsmolmusicnerd]

Listen. I want to know who the ore snatcher is so bad.

But it would the be the wildest reveal for us to find out who the ore snatcher is (I see you cub) on the alter ego hermitcraft tcg cards.

[theredch3rry]

Woah woah woah hold up—was Doc’s own lawyer the ore snatcher…?!!??

[tyxaar]

THE ABSOLUTE GALL I’M…. I’m in shock this is just such a power move oh you-

[lolbatz]

"When I wrote this I envisioned you all as a flock of winged monkeys. I was standing on dark tower and you all flew past me in an epic scene." daily affirmations

Uh oh.

Doc? You ok...?

Ah.

[zhukzucraft]

i'm sure nothing bad will come from this guy getting a position of power over the Permit Office and the Poe Poe

[mbohjeezart]

[ WIP ]

Bring a goat to a courthouse...

[gemm-co]

Thy sketch has been coloured. >:D

Dunno if I prefer it when it was line art or with colour but I really needed to start including colour in my art again anyways.

This drawing was inspired by @towerlesskey suggestion to draw Doc practically going mad because of the ore snatcher.

I had a lot of fun drawing this and would love to get more suggestions on who to draw next from Hermitcraft or the Life series.

[convexicalcrow]

going back to working on the lost prince au now that the Hermitcraft Guess The Author collection is open to guesses now. (I got four fics in that collection, and no correct guesses so far, so get on it folks :D)

i want to get part three as close to done as i can this week before classes start again, so i can start editing and posting soon, now that i have the plot figured out. it's going to be quite an important part of the fic where a lot of stuff comes to a head, so it requires a bit of work to make the payoff worth it. probably the longest too, it might need 6-7 chapters, I think, to do properly.

i mean, i have so many other things to do this week as well, but we'll see how i go now that the brain is free to work on this one now that my GTA fics are out of the way.

i still have Thoughts about the ore snatcher too, but that mostly consists of 'it's more than one of them atp' and that cub knows Something but idk if he's actually guilty or not. also apparently there was some kind of trolling from impulse on his last stream about this? idk, i haven't watched impulse streams for ages, so idk what's going on there.

also doc doing skyblock is giving me life oml. the bit with pearl taking him on a tour of the flower shop oml. i was watching doc's stream for that and it was so funny seeing his reaction. XD

and now a rendog is live! excellent :D i need that after a long day of playing pokemon tcg with baby nephew. he's so fun, but also exhausting. have not yet introduced him to hermitcraft tcg, but there's still time. he's at least been curious about it, but we'll see if i can ever coax him into a game.

[hybbat]

I can't find them rn but those posts that are like "Cub is the ore snatcher look how guilty he sounds in this clip/look how he dodges the question" are so funny to me.

Not because Cub isn't the culprit, honestly I think he is. But Cub could be the most provably innocent man on the server, and he would still be that suspicious. The man is incapable of not sounding like he's up to something. He has never said a single word that sounds like it could be trusted in his life, and that's when he isn't doing it on purpose to mess with people! Of course he sounds guilty

[syntaxsta]

poor doc.

[keard-camez]

[theredch3rry]

Doc would be the type of person to wage war on half of a Minecraft server bc his diamonds went missing to then be the one who’s taking the diamonds bc he didn’t have enough to by materials

[automaticdata]

Scar is grumpy about being a suspect.

A recap: So one of the hermits (Scar, maybe?) mentioned on stream that fanartists should do one of those corkboards with the lines etc. connecting the clues for the whole Ore Snatcher thing and I wanted to try doing that. Problem was, I needed do draw all the suspects out so I could do the actual corkboard. XD Anyway, I don't know if I'll ever get to the corkboard itself, but I wanted to start doing mugshots of all the suspects.

If anyone wants to use this for their own corkboard thing, I'm fine with it, just credit me and tag me (automaticdata if it's on tumblr, Automatic_Data on twitter (though I hardly use that so I have no idea if I'll see it), automaticdata on bluesky, u/Theokorra on reddit) so I can see it and be proud that I created something people wanted to use in their own projects.

Other suspects: Cub | Joe Hills | Cleo