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to find promise of peace (and the solace of rest): a TMA fanfic
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Chapter 105: March 2001
Gerry gets back into town with exactly two hours to spare. It isn’t exactly optimal, but at least he’s able to grab a shower before rushing off. He has to double back when he almost forgets something important, and his mother tries to waylay him, but he manages to get away from her and catch the train just before it closes its doors.
Still, he’s a bit later than he’d like, and he just hopes Melanie is being optimistic.
The auditorium is crowded with families, from babes in arms to elderly folks, and it takes Gerry a good bit of scanning before he spots who he’s looking for. He distractedly thanks the student usher who hands him the folded bits of paper that constitutes a program and makes his way down the aisle to some seats on the left side of the theater, about three rows back. He’s in luck—there’s a seat next to Melanie that’s empty except for a bouquet of roses. From the fact that they’re mixed red and yellow, he guesses she’s the one that brought them.
“Does this mean you’re saving a seat for me?” he asks.
“Gerry!” Melanie’s face lights up, and she leaps to her feet and hugs him tightly. “Jesus, I thought you were still in Switzerland!”
“Luxembourg. Got back a couple hours ago.” Gerry leans over to shake Uncle Roger’s hand, then picks up the bouquet. “So, can I sit with you?”
“Duh.” Melanie plops back down into her seat and bends over to retrieve her program. Gerry notices she’s wearing the stole Alastair gave her for her ninth birthday, thrown over her jumper and jeans, but doesn’t say anything about it.
Instead, he opens his own program and skims it. There are two choirs that are more or less open—the Junior Choir and the Senior Choir—plus a Young Men’s Chorus and Women’s Ensemble, both by audition only, made up of students eligible for the Senior Choir but with a better grasp of things like pitch, musicality, and not bobbing your head violently along with the beat. This is Martin’s last year in the Junior Choir, and Gerry knows he’s planning to try out for the Young Men’s Chorus when they open up again…or has he already?
“Did Martin ever do that audition?” he asks Melanie, who would be the first to know.
“It’s not until next term, I don’t think,” Melanie answers. “It starts in the fall, after all. Anyway, he hasn’t said anything to me about it.”
Gerry hums as he skims the list of songs the Junior Choir will be singing. Unsurprisingly for the Easter term, there are a couple of songs that look to be religious, or at least trending in that direction—he knows “Because He Lives” is definitely an Easter song, and “One Song (A Song of Peace)” is probably similar—plus a couple generic spring songs, some songs that seem to just be for fun, and a single song in a foreign language, French this term. Gerry mentally braces himself for the typical childish hacking through the language.
“I haven’t heard Martin practicing any of these,” Melanie murmurs, also looking over the list.
“Well, you know, your mother isn’t well,” Uncle Roger says absently. “Martin doesn’t practice in the house so much, so he doesn’t disturb her.”
“There is that,” Melanie admits. She glances at the opposite page. “Ooh, the Young Men’s Chorus is doing ‘Diu Diu Deng’!”
Gerry is about to ask her what that means when the lights in the auditorium dim and everybody—for the most part—quiets down. It’s not like a professional performance where people understand what they’re supposed to do; it’s an amateur production, quality notwithstanding, and some people don’t seem to care how loud the crowd noise is as long as it’s not their child on the stage.
The Junior Choir, all neatly dressed in black slacks or skirts and white tops, file onto the stage in ordered rows, filling the risers as they do so, to enthusiastic applause and a few good-natured cheers. Gerry scans the group coming in; Martin, as both one of the older and one of the taller boys in the choir, is usually one of the first ones out so he can climb up and get to his spot, and he wants to get a good look at him before all he can see is eyes and hair over the row of faces going from plump to angular as they begin to change from child to teen.
But there’s no sign of him.
Gerry blinks, and looks harder—like Martin would be difficult to miss. But no, it’s only girls filing out now and climbing the risers. Martin is nowhere to be found. As the last child takes her position, the director, a man Gerry knows well by now, comes out and bows to the audience, then turns to the choir, waiting for the applause to die down so they can begin.
For his part, Gerry is having something akin to a mental breakdown. Could Martin have dropped out of chorus without telling them…or worse, been removed against his will? It’s likely he wouldn’t say anything; he wouldn’t want them to worry. But would he let it get this far—let them think he was going to be in the concert, knowing he’ll be found out? That’s not Martin’s style at all. He’s not the kind of person to put people out, and for them to show up expecting to cheer him on would be (at least in Martin’s mind) a huge inconvenience. He surely knows by now that they will come to all his concerts; Gerry might go out of town more often than he likes, but Melanie and Uncle Roger never miss.
So it must be something else. Something must have happened to him…but what? Surely he rode in with Uncle Roger and Melanie rather than walking himself, so something must have happened to him since they arrived, but—
Melanie slaps his arm urgently, not hard, just a frantic patting to silently get his attention. Gerry turns to face her as the choir begins a slightly clumsy but overall decent (to his ear at least, not that he’s paying a whole lot of attention) rendition of their first spring song. The question dies on his lips as she stabs her finger repeatedly at the back of the program. With the lights down, Gerry can’t read it from there, so he picks up his own program and turns it to the back, then holds it closer to his face. The back of the program is where all the members of the various choruses are listed, and his first reaction is to breathe a silent sigh of relief when he sees MARTIN BLACKWOOD right there on the page, immediately above ANDREW CARTWRIGHT.
It’s awfully low down on the page, though. The Junior Choir is usually right at the top…
Gerry’s eyes flick up, just a little, and he sees the word TENOR, which is also unusual, since the Junior Choir is only two parts as far as he knows—he remembers Martin saying once they don’t start really breaking them up until Senior Choir. Then his eyes widen as he realizes that Martin’s name is on the far right of the page…and the column is actually headed TENOR 1.
He looks again, and there it is—Martin’s name listed under the Young Men’s Chorus.
Gerry—there’s no other word for it—goggles. He knows you’re supposed to be thirteen to get into that group; Martin won’t be thirteen until August. Then there’s the fact that, according to Melanie, he’s not supposed to start in it until the fall. But yet…here he is.
During the applause for the latest song, Gerry leans over and whispers to Melanie, “He wasn’t in the Young Men’s Chorus at Christmas, was he?”
“No!” Melanie hisses back. “The most complicated piece they did was ‘Dona Nobis Pacem’, remember?”
Gerry does, but he’s been wondering if he misremembered. Still, Melanie wouldn’t have said Martin was still planning to audition if he had already been in.
He can hardly concentrate through the first half of the concert, barely manages to applaud at the appropriate times, but when the Senior Choir sits down and the director announces the Young Men’s Chorus, he leans forward, anxious and eager.
Bit odd to call them ‘men’ when they’re thirteen to sixteen, isn’t it? whispers a voice in the back of his mind, sounding amused, and Gerry has to admit that it is a bit odd even if they did append young to the front, but he supposes that if they’re referring to the Women’s Ensemble they can’t very well call it a Boys’ Chorus. His eyes flick back and forth along the line of boys, young men, whatever, as they file in. There are only about a dozen of them all together, and—ah, there he is. Third from the end, he’s the taller of the two Tenor Ones on the front row. Even from where he sits, Gerry can see that he’s visibly pale and nervous, only not fidgeting in his tuxedo jacket and bow tie because he’s too much the professional to do so. But as soon as Martin’s eyes lock on the director, a whole new demeanor takes its place. He’s still pale, but he’s calm and focused. Nothing will exist for him from here on out but the music.
And what music it is! Even Gerry, who really knows very little about music overall, is impressed. For such a small group—now that they’re all out, he can count sixteen, four to each part—they fill the space, and they sound wonderful. Maybe he’s a little biased because Martin is part of it, but he never felt this way about the Junior Choir, only that Martin was one of the few good parts of it, so they must actually be good.
They sing a classic song with a lot of “hallelujahs” in it, another song that invokes the stars, and a song that has Melanie sitting bolt upright and smiling from the very beginning. Gerry surmises this is the one she mentioned before the concert. It’s obviously a Chinese song, and just as obviously about a train—Gerry doesn’t speak it, but he gets that much—and from the bright look on all the boys’ faces, not just Martin’s, they’re obviously enjoying it. It gets the loudest round of applause of the evening so far.
Once the auditorium is quiet again, there’s a single note on the piano that dies away quickly. The director waves a few beats, and then the boys begin singing a slow, sonorous song that thrums in Gerry’s chest. “Brightly beams our Father’s mercy…from His lighthouse evermore…”
Gerry lets his eyes drift shut as he listens. The song is poignant and solemn, but somehow feels…important. It’s almost as though the song itself is a beacon calling to them; in fact, it gives him almost the same sensation as that song Melanie sang a couple years back to find Martin in the park, an incident he still shies away from thinking about too hard or often. It’s a song of hope, of steadfast faith, of assuring someone that you’ll be there for them, no matter what.
And then a single clear, pure voice rings out over the room. “Throw out the lifeline, throw out the lifeline, someone is drifting away…”
At that, Gerry’s eyes pop open wide, because he knows that voice. His lips part in shock as he stares at the stage. Martin, his eyes shining green all the way from out here as they fix on the director’s baton, sings the verses to the second half of what’s obviously a medley, alone and unaccompanied and unafraid. Martin, who is always nervous and afraid of putting himself out there, who stammers any time he’s put on the spot, sings with a confidence that’s no different than when it’s just the three of them in a park or on the river bank or on top of a hill, with the unfettered pleasure of someone doing what he’s always meant to do.
And Gerry, who has heard Martin sing a thousand times, who knows his voice is like this, is utterly entranced.
There’s a beat of silence when the whole choir finishes a reprise of the chorus of the first song, and then the audience nearly takes the roof off the auditorium with their applause. Martin’s cheeks turn faintly pink as the director gestures to him, but he doesn’t duck his head or back away, which is…honestly progress.
The boys do a fast, peppy song about putting bones together and taking them apart again, and then they end with an absolutely gorgeous song Gerry’s never heard before, but he recognizes the lyrics as being one of Martin’s favorite Byron poems, “She Walks In Beauty”. Gerry’s pretty sure he’s not the only one that tears up a little.
The Women’s Ensemble goes next, and in Gerry’s totally unbiased opinion, they should have gone before the Young Men’s Chorus, because they can’t hold up. The director calls everyone out for the final song, which they do at virtually every single concert, and then it’s over.
Melanie is beaming ear to ear as she turns to Gerry. “That’s the best one ever.”
Gerry can’t help but laugh at her. “You’re just saying that because Martin got a solo.”
“No, I’m saying it because it was amazing.” Melanie shifts the bouquet to one hand and punches Gerry with the other. “Come on. Let’s go find him so we can yell at him for not telling us.”
The lobby and halls are crowded with people finding and congratulating their respective students. Melanie greets and congratulates a couple of girls she evidently knows at least in passing—as usual, they act polite but not particularly enthusiastic—but it takes Gerry a bit before he spots Martin trying to edge his way around the crowd. He nudges Melanie and points. “Look, there he is!”
Melanie shoves the bouquet at Uncle Roger and immediately starts threading her way through the crowd. She’s always had a talent for this sort of thing, and she slides through the gaps like water sliding through cupped hands. Gerry glances over his shoulder at Uncle Roger, unable to hide his amusement. “Well, she’s going to get there first. Shall we?”
Uncle Roger gestures. “Lead the way.”
Gerry is not particularly large or intimidating, so he can’t exactly shove people out of his way, and he’s not as agile as Melanie. He squeezes through whatever gaps he can, Uncle Roger’s polite “excuse me”s following him, and makes it to Martin’s side well after Melanie has attacked him in a tight hug.
“You’re an absolute ass,” she says, the delight in her voice belying her words. “Why didn’t you tell us you’d got into the Young Men’s Chorus already?”
“It—it was a last-minute thing,” Martin says, his cheeks turning bright pink. The blush gets even deeper when he notices Gerry. “When—wh-when did you get back?”
“Just in time.” Gerry comes over and hugs Martin, too. “What do you mean, last-minute thing? That’s not something you can just learn at the last minute.”
“No, I—I mean, not—” Martin swallows nervously. “It, um, over the break at half-term, Joseph White had to have his tonsils taken out, and something went wrong, so he couldn’t sing anymore. He told Dr. Clayton to run the auditions early and pick someone to replace him, and…well, I-I guess I was the only person to audition who could hit Tenor One parts who did well enough to start now?”
Gerry doubts that, actually, but he’s not going to say as much. Instead, he says, “But then you got the solo?”
“Not originally. It was supposed to be Kent Phillips, but he missed his cue one day and I just, I kind of jumped in out of habit, and Dr. Clayton asked me to take over.” Martin ducks his head, obviously embarrassed. “I know I shouldn’t have, but…”
“Yeah, well, obviously Dr. Clayton doesn’t think so,” Melanie points out.
Uncle Roger finally makes it over to them, smiling broadly. He presents Martin with the bouquet. “Well done, son. It’s a shame your mother couldn’t make it, but if you’d told us you had a solo, I know she would have been here.”
Yeah, right, whispers that voice in Gerry’s head. Gerry grunts his agreement without thinking. Melanie scowls momentarily, but says nothing. Martin, for his part, manages a tentative smile that at least looks convincing as he accepts the bouquet, even though he doesn’t actually agree with his stepfather’s assessment. “Thanks, Dad. I’m glad you could make it, anyway.”
“Wouldn’t have missed this for the world.” Uncle Roger rumples Martin’s hair affectionately. “Come on. After that, I think you deserve ice cream. Gerard, care to join us?”
“I’d love to. Thanks, Uncle Roger.” Gerry smiles up at the man and throws an arm around Martin’s shoulders. “He’s right. Let’s go celebrate, yeah? Even if you think it was an accident, that was a damned good performance and you deserve to celebrate.”
Melanie slides her arm around Martin’s waist from the other side. Obviously unable to protest, he lets them drag him outside, Uncle Roger leading the way.
Okay, the voice in the back of Gerry’s head whispers. Why this? Why tonight?
Why not? Gerry asks the voice.
Sorry, Ger. Not talking to you right now, just trying to work some stuff out. We’ll talk later.
Gerry feels something inside him warm, for reasons he can’t explain. But since his brain has just informed him they’re not going to be on speaking terms for the rest of the night, apparently—he swears he can hear someone laughing at him all of a sudden—he decides that’s a problem for later. For now, he’s going to concentrate on his siblings, and on his Uncle Roger, and on ice cream.
He can worry later.
#ollie writes fanfic#tma fanfic#the magnus archives#to find promise of peace (and the solace of rest)#gerard keay#melanie king#martin blackwood#the implication of timothy stoker
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What have I become? I'm the face of God, I'm my Father's son
#Heyyy guysss.... back at it with sailor martin.....#the visage he sees of tim here is JUST a visage because this au version of tim would be much older#this is just what he remembers and what the fog is materialising#i was actually so torn on the caption lol. “he went to the beach that makes you old”#im also obsessed w/ the parallels of martin leaving jons side when he was in the coma vs his father leaving his mother#i know thats not necessarily the implication but can you think about that with me for a second#just imagine how he was coping. its not what was intended but thats how it FEELS#tma#the magnus archives#martim#timartin#martin blackwood#tim stoker#timothy stoker#art cabinet
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tim stoker in one of those flowy pirate tunics. that's it send post
#it's the Bisexual Fit(tm)#the magnus archives#tim stoker#timothy stoker#tma#cindy thinks about the implications
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so @i-want-it-on-fire tagged this #TIM WOULD BE A STRANGER AVATAR YOU GUYS ARE JUST IGNORING HIS ENTIRE CHARACTER and @tiefling-queer tagged it #TIM👏STOKER👏IS👏STRANGER👏ALIGNED
and as op i would like to say that that is one thousand percent not the point of this post.
imo tim stoker as presented by canon would not willingly choose to be the avatar of any fear entity at all, and if he did become one it would be against his will and/or against his knowledge
i’m inclined to think that end, web, and eye (MAYBE hunt) would be best positioned to lie to him and trap him in avatarhood without his prior knowledge, but that’s a personal opinion
the only way i can see tim becoming an avatar of the stranger is if he was first made a victim of a stranger and then taken against his will to avatarhood, and he would. hate it. that would be torture for tim. that is not the natural conclusion of his characterization or of canon (lbr canon says he’s forcibly eye aligned and then dies), and please do not use my post to say it is.
*claps all my hands together* there is no version of giving a non-avatar tma character cool avatar powers that is not inherently tragic, bcos canonically all the 'cool powers' of avatardom come at terrible personal cost, whether that is personal trauma or the knowledge that you must inflict trauma on other people to survive or both. the best fics/art abt this address the pain & internal conflict of gaining powers; the worst ignore it; and the very worst ignore that some avatar groups, like the lightless flame, require members to be gleefully sadistic in order to join willingly (with agnes, made as an avatar, the sole exception, and with VERY specific circumstances). thus 'cool fire powers' is not only a shitty reason to make tim a lightless flame-style avatar specifically, but 'i want them to have cool powers' is such a surface level-reason for making any non-avatar character an avatar, and ignores the tragedy inherent to tma and particularly to jon,
#fandom wank#sorry i want to nip this in the bud#if you think tim would wind up tortured in a role he hates for an entity that took away someone he loved then like......... ok#imo you could just leave him at the institute for that but ok#but tbqh i am not endorsing any willing or 'natural' alignment or avatarhood for timothy stoker at ALL#the point of this post was that tim becoming an avatar at ALL would be terrible and pls consider how terrible and in precisely what ways#if you're going to make an au of him as an avatar#this is not saying don't make him an avatar! but pls CONSIDER the IMPLICATIONS#yes including stranger yes including desolation yes including hunt YES EVEN INCLUDING END#which is the premise of some of my FAVORITE avatar tim fics#mostly bcos! they consider the implications!!#all of which are horrible and painful!
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For the trope mashup, 13 and 59 for Jonmartin or Jontim?
Okay this is gonna just be SO much angst but ,,, (Detective AU mixed with Love Confession AU !! With JonTim!!)
I'm picturing Jon as the detective, he's a rookie and despite his vigorous work ethic lacks a lot of the interpersonal skills really needed for the job. He's worked for The Magnus Institute, a private agency, for a few years before eventually given the file of The Skinner, an infamous killer that no one really thinks exists beyond in scary urban stories.
He sets off to research and finds startlingly little except that he always seems to strike around carnivals. Going off of that tiny sliver of information Jon begins staking out any mention of "The Circus" or carnivals and clowns in general.
After months of exhausting work, he finally manages to pinpoint The Skinner's next target, after already losing track of him multiple times.
Its a vintage circus that appears to have come out of no where but is making its next stop in Leicester.
Jon steels himself, and gathers all of his knowledge about The Skinner and sets off to the carnival. (Much to the ire of his co-workers who have gone beyond thinking this was busy work to thinking that its a frankly creepy obsession.)
Jon arrives and the show commences without any sort of remarkable events. But, while there he does run into the most attractive man he's ever met, and in their brief conversation they share a mutual irritation at the show but need to be there for "work reasons."
The circus itself is uneventful and turns up no further evidence.
Jon redoubles his research, instead focusing on non-active circuses as over the past year he's had no luck with finding any suspicious activity surrounding the operating ones and the killer is definitely still at large.
In the year of working, Jon has began having nightmares about The Skinner and how his victims faces are torn off and their remains desecrated and the stress of the case is making his coworkers even more suspicious. (Except for his boss, Elias, who seems proud of his sudden shift in intensity.)
Eventually he uncovers an ancient wax museum, and that it seems to be a cover for strange happenings. The entire place is rife with records of bright flashes, screaming from unknown origins, and occasional, disturbing reports of music playing even though its been abandoned for years.
Jon tracks down its location and with all the resolve, and obsession, he can muster goes to the museum.
He never makes it though.
On his way, and only a few minutes before he could arrive at the museum, he drives past a tiny cemetery.
He ignores it at first, but there's a man kneeling beside a grave and he is abruptly, so abruptly he almost careens off the road, reminded of the man from the circus months ago.
His dark hair is falling over his cheekbones and he is wearing a heavy coat, but even from the distance his long legs and athletic form are clear and something about the set of his jaw makes Jon certain.
And he is still absolutely as gorgeous as Jon had first found him, but suddenly other tiny details begin to click. The dark hair, the sharp toothed smile, the charisma that seemed to hide something more, the eerily casual way he hung around the circus without flinching and/or being there with children or any form of significant other.
Jon lets out the tight breath he was holding and turns the car around.
Sneaking through the scraggly cemetery he can't help but feel a sense of regret, and of pity.
The man, The Skinner, is knelt beside a grave, whispering in hushed tones to a plain stone. His eyes are glossy and beneath this dark hair there are tear tracks across his face.
"I know you're there." He calls
Jon jumps but with any sort of resolve he has, he stand up straight.
"You're The Skinner."
The man nods his head once, and when he lifts it, Jon is struck again by how beautiful he is even with the pain clear across his face.
"Yes. I am. I knew you'd find me eventually." He grins in an almost rueful way despite the situation. "I knew you wouldn't let it go after I met you at the carnival. People like us," he gestures to the grave, "We can't let go can we?"
"You killed those people?" Jon's voice comes out both sharper and more fragile than he wanted.
The Skinner nods again. "They took everything from me."
His eyes trail back to the grave.
For the first time Jon notices the details, the well worn grass beneath The Skinners feet, the neatly trimmed bush of flowers encircling the grave, and the neat script across the stone. Daniel Stoker.
"He was all I had." The Skinner sighs, long and dull.
"He was your brother." Jon isn't sure where the knowledge comes from but in the recesses of his mind he recalls the name Danny being intertwined with the first and most gruesome of the muders. "You killed him."
"What?" Tim eyes snap back to him, suddenly sharp and ferocious.
Jon can't help but stagger back a step.
"I didnt, I'd– I would never." He said, putting a strong hand against the gravestone. "I loved him."
"He was your first victim."
The Skinner huffs at him. "You're pretty slow on the uptake for a detective."
"I am not." Jon says indignantly before he can help himself.
"Yeah, sure." The Skinner huffs again. "I didn't. I would never kill Danny. I'd never even thought of killing anyone before they took him."
Jon doesn't get a chance to say anything, but the burning questions he has must show on his face because The Skinner continues.
"The Circus." The Skinner waves a hand roughly towards the road, in the direction Jon had been traveling. "Organized crime, still not sure what branch they are, but they took Danny when we were. We were kids. And they killed him, skinned him."
He pauses again.
"So I started skinning them."
Jon feels at once a flash of fear, and a flash of something bright and sharp that feels a lot like sympathy.
"You're looking for revenge." It isn't a question even as his voice wobbles.
The Skinner sighs and nods. "Yeah, I am."
He traces long fingers over the gravestones cursive. "I love him too much to not to."
"Are you going to kill me?" Jon asks suddenly.
The Skinner looks up and for a second there is something dark in his eyes before it flickers away.
"I should, but I won't."
"Why?" The word jumps out before Jon can realize the implications of aksing why a serial killer would choose not to murder you rather than being grateful.
The Skinner gives me a long look and something like a smirk tugs on the corner of his mouth. "Cause you're in it for the same reasons as me. Even if your ways more on the legal side."
Jon stands stock still, the image of the man known as "Mr. Spider" flashing before his eyes and his sudden escape from a certain death.
The Skinner breaks the silence.
"What are you going to do?"
"What?" Jon startles.
A tiny hint of a smile creeps across the Skinner's face. "Slow." He chuckles under his breath. Louder he says, "You've caught me. Am I going to prison for the rest of my life? Or am I just going to die here?"
Even though the words are flippant his eyes drift towards the grave in a way that suggests, with near certainly, that if he has to die then he wants it to be here. With Danny.
Jon's thought catch, and race through a hundred scenarios. He in no way is liesenced to kill anyone, regardless of the fact that that option is off of the table. He can't simply let him go, The Skinner is known nationwide even if it mainly through ghost stories. He could theorically pretend as though he had had found nothing and give up the case.
Instead what comes out of his mouth is, "I want to offer you a job."
"What?" The Skinner rocks back onto his heels, still kneeling.
Jon hiestates for a second. He is certain he has no hiring power or any sway beyond being a half decent researcher but he can't just let the man go.
"I work for The Magnus Institute. We investigate things like this, things like you. And you– well you can research The Cirus." He pauses, his voice lowering. "Like you said, people like us."
The Skinner sits back in silence.
"You don't even know my name." He says.
Jon gestures the grave. "I would guess that your last name is Stoker?"
A flicker of amusement breaks up the shock on The Skinners face.
"That it is. My first name is Timothy. Tim really though."
"I'm Jon, Jonathan Sims." Jon says automatically.
Tim laughs. The sound is raspy, but the clear mirth to it still has a traitorous part of Jon warming from the inside out.
"I'm going to need details about this Magnus place." He says, his hand resting easily on the gravestone as he rose to his feet.
Jon nodded. "Of course. I can provide any information that you need."
The Skinner, Tim Stoker, nods and his fingers trail off of the stone. "I guess I'll follow your lead then."
(Sorry there's no read more cut !! I wrote this on my phone !!)
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just realized tma s1 is in 2016,, the IMPLICATIONS
(the implications are that timothy stoker could canonically dab)
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137 Economists Support GOP Tax Reform
In an open letter to Congress today, 137 economists backed the GOP tax reform effort, saying: “Economic growth will accelerate if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passes, leading to more jobs, higher wages, and a better standard of living for the American people.” Senator Portman echoed this point on Fox Business earlier today, saying the Senate’s Tax Cuts & Jobs Act “will generate more jobs and higher wages because of the increased investment and productivity.”
The full letter is below and at this link.
An open letter to Congress signed by 137 economists supporting GOP tax reform bill
CNBC
November 29, 2017
Dear Senators and Representatives:
“Ask five economists,” as the Edgar Fiedler adage goes, “and you'll get five different answers.”
Yet, when it comes to the tax reform package aimed at fixing our broken system, the undersigned have but one shared perspective: Economic growth will accelerate if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passes, leading to more jobs, higher wages, and a better standard of living for the American people. If, however, the bill fails, the United States risks continued economic underperformance.
In today’s globalized economy, capital is mobile in its pursuit of lower tax jurisdictions. Yet, in that worldwide race for job-creating investment, America is not economically competitive.
Here’s why: Left virtually untouched for the last 31 years, our chart-topping corporate tax rate is the highest in the industrialized world and a full fifteen percentage points above the OECD average. As a result of forfeiting our competitive edge, we forfeited 4,700 companies from 2004 to 2016 to cheaper shores abroad. As a result of sitting idly by while the rest of the world took steps to lower their corporate rates, we lowered our own workers' wages by thousands of dollars a year.
Our colleagues from across the ideological spectrum – regardless of whether they ultimately support or oppose the current plan – recognize the record-setting rate at which the United States taxes job-creating businesses is, either significantly or entirely, a burden borne by the workers they employ. The question isn't whether American workers are hurt by our country's corporate tax rate – it's how badly. As such, the question isn't whether workers will be helped by a corporate tax rate reduction – it's how much.
The enactment of a comprehensive overhaul – complete with a lower corporate tax rate – will ignite our economy with levels of growth not seen in generations. A twenty percent statutory rate on a permanent basis would, per the Council of Economic Advisers, help produce a GDP boost “by between 3 and 5 percent.” As the debate delves into deficit implications, it is critical to consider that $1 trillion in new revenue for the federal government can be generated by four- tenths of a percentage in GDP growth.
Sophisticated economic models show the macroeconomic feedback generated by the TCJA will exceed that amount – more than enough to compensate for the static revenue loss.
We firmly believe that a competitive corporate rate is the key to an economic engine driven by greater investment, capital stock, business formation, and productivity – all of which will yield more jobs and higher wages. Your vote throughout the weeks ahead will therefore put more money in the pockets of more workers.
Supporting the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will ensure that those workers – those beneficiaries – are American.
Sincerely, James C. Miller III, Former OMB Director, 1985-88 Douglas Holtz-Eakin, American Action Forum Alexander Katkov, Johnson & Wales University Ali M. Reza, San Jose State U (Emeritus) Ann E. Sherman, DePaul University Anthony B. Sanders, George Mason University Anthony Negbenebor, Gardner-Webb University Arthur Havenner, University of California, Davis Austin J. Jaffe, Penn State University Barry W. Poulson, University of Colorado Boyd D, Collier, Tarleton State University, Texas A&M University System (Emeritus) Brian Stuart Wesbury, Joint Economic Committee Carlisle E. Moody, College of William and Mary Charles W. Calomiris, Columbia University Christine P. Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology Christopher C. Barnekov, FCC (Retired) Christopher Lingle Universidad Francisco Marroquin Clifford F. Thies, Shenandoah University Daniel Fernandez Universidad Francisco Marroquin Daniel Houser, George Mason University David H. Resler, Chief US Economist, Nomura (Retired) David Ranson, HCWE & Co. Dennis E. Logue Steven Roth Professor, (Emeritus) Tuck School, Dartmouth Colleges Derek Tittle, Georgia Institute of Technology DeVon L. Yoho, Economist Ball State University (Retired) Donald J. Oswald California State University, Bakersfield (Retired) Donald Koch, Koch Investments Donald L. Alexander, Western Michigan University Donald Luskin, TrendMacro Douglas C Frechtling, George Washington University Douglas Kahl, The University of Akron Douglas O. Cook, The University of Alabama Kingdon Hurlock Jr., Calvert Investment Counsel Edward M. Scahill, University of Scranton Eleanor Craig, University of Delaware Owen Irvine Michigan State University (Emeritus) Farhad Rassekh, University of Hartford Francis Ahking, University of Connecticut Frank Falero, California State University (Emeritus) Gary R. Skoog, Legal Econometrics, Inc. Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College Gene Simpson, NPTC, Auburn University George Langelett, South Dakota State University Gerald P. Dwyer, Clemson University Gil Sylvia, University of Georgia H Daniel Foster, HDFCO Hugo J. Faria, University of Miami Inayat Mangla, Western Michigan University Edward Graham, UNC Wilmington Jagdish Bhagwati, Columbia University James B Kau, University of Georgia James C.W. Ahiakpor California State University, East Bay James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute James D. Miller, Smith College James F. Smith, EconForecaster, LLC James Keeler, Kenyon College James M. Mulcahy SUNY - Buffalo economics department James Moncur, University of Hawaii at Manoa Jeffrey Dorfman, University of Georgia Jerold Zimmerman, University of Rochester Jody Lipford, Presbyterian College John A. Baden, Chm., Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment (FREE) John C. Moorhouse Wake Forest University (Emeritus) John D. Johnson, Utah State University John H McDermott, University of South Carolina John McArthur, Wofford College John P. Eleazarian, American Economic Association John Ruggiero, University of Dayton John Semmens, Laissez Faire Institute Joseph A. Giacalone, St. John's University, NY Joseph Haslag University of Missouri- Columbia Joseph S. DeSalvo University of South Florida - Tampa Joseph Zoric Franciscan University of Steubenville Kathleen B. Cooper, SMU's John Tower Center for Politico Science Kenneth V. Greene Binghamton University (Emeritus) Lawrence Benveniste Goizueta Business School, Emory University Lawrence R. Cima, John Carroll University Leon Wegge, University of California, Davis Lloyd Cohen, Scalia Law School Lucjan Orlowski, Sacred Heart University Lydia Ortega, San Jose State University Northrup Buechner, St. John's University, New York Maurice MacDonald, Kansas State University Michael A. Morrisey, Texas A&M University Michael Connolly, University of Miami Michael D Brendler Louisiana State University Shreveport. Michael L. Marlow, Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo Moheb A. Ghali, Western Washington University Nancy Roberts, Arizona State University Nasser Duella, California State University, Fullerton Nicolas Sanchez, College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA (Emeritus,) Norman Lefton, Southern Illinois University, Edwardsville Paul H Rubin, Emory University Pavel Yakovlev, Duquesne University Pedro Piffaut, Columbia University Peter E. Kretzmer, Bank of America Peter S. Yun, UVAWISE (Emeritus) Phillip J. Bryson Brigham Young University (Emeritus) Ashley Lyman, University of Idaho L. Promboin, University of Maryland University College (former) Richard J. Cebula, Jacksonville University Richard Kilmer, University of Florida Richard Timberlake, Prof. of Econ., Univ. of Ga. (Retired) Richard Vedder, Ohio University Robert B Helms, American Enterprise Institute (Retired) Robert F Stauffer, Roanoke College , (Emeritus) Robert H. Topel, University of Chicago Booth School of Business Robert Heller, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board Robert Sauer, Royal Holloway University Robert Tamura, Clemson University Roger Meiners, University of Texas-Arlington Sanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado Boulder Scott Hein, Texas Tech University Seth Bied, New York State Tax Department Stan Liebowitz, University of Texas Stephen Happel, Arizona State University Craig Tapley, University of Florida Thomas H. Mayor, University of Houston Thomas J Kniesner, Claremont Graduate University Thomas M. Stoker, MIT (retired) Thomas Saving, Texas A&M University Timothy Mathews, Kennesaw State University Tomi Ovaska, Youngstown State University Tony Lima, California State University, East Bay Victor a Canto, La Jolla economics Vijay Singal, Navrang Inc Wallace Hendricks, University of Illinois Ward S. Curran Trinity College Hartford Connecticut (Emeritus) Wayne T. Brough, FreedomWorks Foundation William B. Fairley, Analysis & Inference, Inc. William Buchanan, Valdosta State University William McKillop, Resource Economics (Emeritus) William R. Allen UCLA Department of Economics William S. Peirce Case Western Reserve University Wim Vijverberg, CUNY Graduate Center Xuepeng Liu, Kennesaw State University Yuri N. Maltsev, A.W. Clausen Center for World Business, Carthage College
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137 economists sign open letter to Congress supporting GOP tax reform bill
Our colleagues from across the ideological spectrum – regardless of whether they ultimately support or oppose the current plan – recognize the record-setting rate at which the United States taxes job-creating businesses is, either significantly or entirely, a burden borne by the workers they employ. The question isn’t whether American workers are hurt by our country’s corporate tax rate – it’s how badly. As such, the question isn’t whether workers will be helped by a corporate tax rate reduction – it’s how much.
The enactment of a comprehensive overhaul – complete with a lower corporate tax rate – will ignite our economy with levels of growth not seen in generations. A twenty percent statutory rate on a permanent basis would, per the Council of Economic Advisers, help produce a GDP boost “by between 3 and 5 percent.” As the debate delves into deficit implications, it is critical to consider that $1 trillion in new revenue for the federal government can be generated by four- tenths of a percentage in GDP growth.
Sophisticated economic models show the macroeconomic feedback generated by the TCJA will exceed that amount – more than enough to compensate for the static revenue loss.
We firmly believe that a competitive corporate rate is the key to an economic engine driven by greater investment, capital stock, business formation, and productivity – all of which will yield more jobs and higher wages. Your vote throughout the weeks ahead will therefore put more money in the pockets of more workers.
Supporting the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will ensure that those workers – those beneficiaries – are American.
Sincerely,
James C. Miller III, Former OMB Director, 1985-88
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, American Action Forum
Alexander Katkov, Johnson & Wales University
Ali M. Reza, San Jose State U (Emeritus)
Ann E. Sherman, DePaul University
Anthony B. Sanders, George Mason University
Anthony Negbenebor, Gardner-Webb University
Arthur Havenner, University of California, Davis
Austin J. Jaffe, Penn State University
Barry W. Poulson, University of Colorado
Boyd D, Collier, Tarleton State University, Texas A&M University System (Emeritus)
Brian Stuart Wesbury, Joint Economic Committee
Carlisle E. Moody, College of William and Mary
Charles W. Calomiris, Columbia University
Christine P. Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology
Christopher C. Barnekov, FCC (Retired)
Christopher Lingle Universidad Francisco Marroquin
Clifford F. Thies, Shenandoah University
Daniel Fernandez Universidad Francisco Marroquin
Daniel Houser, George Mason University
David H. Resler, Chief US Economist, Nomura (Retired)
David Ranson, HCWE & Co.
Dennis E. Logue Steven Roth Professor, (Emeritus) Tuck School, Dartmouth Colleges
Derek Tittle, Georgia Institute of Technology
DeVon L. Yoho, Economist Ball State University (Retired)
Donald J. Oswald California State University, Bakersfield (Retired)
Donald Koch, Koch Investments
Donald L. Alexander, Western Michigan University
Donald Luskin, TrendMacro
Douglas C Frechtling, George Washington University
Douglas Kahl, The University of Akron
Douglas O. Cook, The University of Alabama
Kingdon Hurlock Jr., Calvert Investment Counsel
Edward M. Scahill, University of Scranton
Eleanor Craig, University of Delaware
Owen Irvine Michigan State University (Emeritus)
Farhad Rassekh, University of Hartford
Francis Ahking, University of Connecticut
Frank Falero, California State University (Emeritus)
Gary R. Skoog, Legal Econometrics, Inc.
Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College
Gene Simpson, NPTC, Auburn University
George Langelett, South Dakota State University
Gerald P. Dwyer, Clemson University
Gil Sylvia, University of Georgia
H Daniel Foster, HDFCO
Hugo J. Faria, University of Miami
Inayat Mangla, Western Michigan University
Edward Graham, UNC Wilmington
Jagdish Bhagwati, Columbia University
James B Kau, University of Georgia
James C.W. Ahiakpor California State University, East Bay
James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
James D. Miller, Smith College
James F. Smith, EconForecaster, LLC
James Keeler, Kenyon College
James M. Mulcahy SUNY – Buffalo economics department
James Moncur, University of Hawaii at Manoa
Jeffrey Dorfman, University of Georgia
Jerold Zimmerman, University of Rochester
Jody Lipford, Presbyterian College
John A. Baden, Chm., Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment (FREE)
John C. Moorhouse Wake Forest University (Emeritus)
John D. Johnson, Utah State University
John H McDermott, University of South Carolina
John McArthur, Wofford College
John P. Eleazarian, American Economic Association
John Ruggiero, University of Dayton
John Semmens, Laissez Faire Institute
Joseph A. Giacalone, St. John’s University, NY
Joseph Haslag University of Missouri- Columbia
Joseph S. DeSalvo University of South Florida – Tampa
Joseph Zoric Franciscan University of Steubenville
Kathleen B. Cooper, SMU’s John Tower Center for Politico Science
Kenneth V. Greene Binghamton University (Emeritus)
Lawrence Benveniste Goizueta Business School, Emory University
Lawrence R. Cima, John Carroll University
Leon Wegge, University of California, Davis
Lloyd Cohen, Scalia Law School
Lucjan Orlowski, Sacred Heart University
Lydia Ortega, San Jose State University
Northrup Buechner, St. John’s University, New York
Maurice MacDonald, Kansas State University
Michael A. Morrisey, Texas A&M University
Michael Connolly, University of Miami
Michael D Brendler Louisiana State University Shreveport.
Michael L. Marlow, Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo
Moheb A. Ghali, Western Washington University
Nancy Roberts, Arizona State University
Nasser Duella, California State University, Fullerton
Nicolas Sanchez, College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA (Emeritus,)
Norman Lefton, Southern Illinois University, Edwardsville
Paul H Rubin, Emory University
Pavel Yakovlev, Duquesne University
Pedro Piffaut, Columbia University
Peter E. Kretzmer, Bank of America
Peter S. Yun, UVAWISE (Emeritus)
Phillip J. Bryson Brigham Young University (Emeritus)
Ashley Lyman, University of Idaho
L. Promboin, University of Maryland University College (former)
Richard J. Cebula, Jacksonville University
Richard Kilmer, University of Florida
Richard Timberlake, Prof. of Econ., Univ. of Ga. (Retired)
Richard Vedder, Ohio University
Robert B Helms, American Enterprise Institute (Retired)
Robert F Stauffer, Roanoke College , (Emeritus)
Robert H. Topel, University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Robert Heller, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
Robert Sauer, Royal Holloway University
Robert Tamura, Clemson University
Roger Meiners, University of Texas-Arlington
Sanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado Boulder
Scott Hein, Texas Tech University
Seth Bied, New York State Tax Department
Stan Liebowitz, University of Texas
Stephen Happel, Arizona State University
Craig Tapley, University of Florida
Thomas H. Mayor, University of Houston
Thomas J Kniesner, Claremont Graduate University
Thomas M. Stoker, MIT (retired)
Thomas Saving, Texas A&M University
Timothy Mathews, Kennesaw State University
Tomi Ovaska, Youngstown State University
Tony Lima, California State University, East Bay
Victor a Canto, La Jolla economics
Vijay Singal, Navrang Inc
Wallace Hendricks, University of Illinois
Ward S. Curran Trinity College Hartford Connecticut (Emeritus)
Wayne T. Brough, FreedomWorks Foundation
William B. Fairley, Analysis & Inference, Inc.
William Buchanan, Valdosta State University
William McKillop, Resource Economics (Emeritus)
William R. Allen UCLA Department of Economics
William S. Peirce Case Western Reserve University
Wim Vijverberg, CUNY Graduate Center
Xuepeng Liu, Kennesaw State University
Yuri N. Maltsev, A.W. Clausen Center for World Business, Carthage College
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An open letter to Congress from over 100 economists: Pass tax reform and watch the economy roar
Carlos Barria/Reuters
Dear Senators and Representatives:
"Ask five economists," as the Edgar Fiedler adage goes, "and you'll get five different answers."
Yet, when it comes to the tax reform package aimed at fixing our broken system, the undersigned have but one shared perspective: Economic growth will accelerate if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passes, leading to more jobs, higher wages, and a better standard of living for the American people. If, however, the bill fails, the United States risks continued economic underperformance.
In today’s globalized economy, capital is mobile in its pursuit of lower tax jurisdictions. Yet, in that worldwide race for job-creating investment, America is not economically competitive. Here’s why: Left virtually untouched for the last 31 years, our chart-topping corporate tax rate is the highest in the industrialized world and a full fifteen percentage points above the OECD average. As a result of forfeiting our competitive edge, we forfeited 4,700 companies from 2004 to 2016 to cheaper shores abroad. As a result of sitting idly by while the rest of the world took steps to lower their corporate rates, we lowered our own workers' wages by thousands of dollars a year.
Our colleagues from across the ideological spectrum — regardless of whether they ultimately support or oppose the current plan — recognize the record-setting rate at which the United States taxes job-creating businesses is, either significantly or entirely, a burden borne by the workers they employ. The question isn’t whether American workers are hurt by our country’s corporate tax rate — it’s how badly. As such, the question isn’t whether workers will be helped by a corporate tax rate reduction — it’s how much.
The enactment of a comprehensive overhaul — complete with a lower corporate tax rate — will ignite our economy with levels of growth not seen in generations. A twenty percent statutory rate on a permanent basis would, per the Council of Economic Advisers, help produce a GDP boost "by between 3 and 5 percent." As the debate delves into deficit implications, it is critical to consider that $1 trillion in new revenue for the federal government can be generated by four-tenths of a percentage in GDP growth.
Sophisticated economic models show the macroeconomic feedback generated by the TCJA will exceed that amount — more than enough to compensate for the static revenue loss. We firmly believe that a competitive corporate rate is the key to an economic engine driven by greater investment, capital stock, business formation, and productivity — all of which will yield more jobs and higher wages. Your vote throughout the weeks ahead will therefore put more money in the pockets of more workers.
Supporting the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act will ensure that those workers — those beneficiaries — are American.
Sincerely,
James C. Miller III
Former OMB Director, 1985-88
Douglas Holtz-Eakin
American Action Forum
Alexander Katkov
Johnson & Wales University
Ali M. Reza
San Jose State U (Emeritus)
Ann E. Sherman
DePaul University
Anthony B. Sanders
George Mason University
Anthony Negbenebor
Gardner-Webb University
Arthur Havenner
University of California, Davis
Austin J. Jaffe
Penn State University
Barry W. Poulson
University of Colorado
Boyd D, Collier
Tarleton State University, Texas A&M University System (Emeritus)
Brian Stuart Wesbury
Joint Economic Committee
Carlisle E. Moody
College of William and Mary
Charles W. Calomiris
Columbia University
Christine P. Ries
Georgia Institute of Technology
Christopher C. Barnekov
FCC (Retired)
Christopher Lingle Universidad Francisco Marroquin
Clifford F. Thies
Shenandoah University
Daniel Fernandez Universidad Francisco Marroquin
Daniel Houser
George Mason University
David H. Resler
Chief US Economist, Nomura (Retired)
David Ranson
HCWE & Co.
Dennis E. Logue Steven Roth Professor, (Emeritus) Tuck School, Dartmouth Colleges
Derek Tittle
Georgia Institute of Technology
DeVon L. Yoho
Economist Ball State University (Retired)
Donald J. Oswald California State University, Bakersfield (Retired)
Donald Koch
Koch Investments
Donald L. Alexander
Western Michigan University
Donald Luskin
TrendMacro
Douglas C Frechtling
George Washington University
Douglas Kahl
The University of Akron
Douglas O. Cook
The University of Alabama
Kingdon Hurlock Jr.
Calvert Investment Counsel
Edward M. Scahill
University of Scranton
Eleanor Craig
University of Delaware
Owen Irvine Michigan State University (Emeritus)
Farhad Rassekh
University of Hartford
Francis Ahking
University of Connecticut
Frank Falero
California State University (Emeritus)
Gary R. Skoog
Legal Econometrics, Inc.
Gary Wolfram
Hillsdale College
Gene Simpson
NPTC, Auburn University
George Langelett
South Dakota State University
Gerald P. Dwyer
Clemson University
Gil Sylvia
University of Georgia
H Daniel Foster
HDFCO
Hugo J. Faria
University of Miami
Inayat Mangla
Western Michigan University
J. Edward Graham
UNC Wilmington
Jagdish Bhagwati
Columbia University
James B Kau
University of Georgia
James C.W. Ahiakpor California State University, East Bay
James D. Adams
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
James D. Miller
Smith College
James F. Smith
EconForecaster, LLC
James Keeler
Kenyon College
James M. Mulcahy SUNY - Buffalo economics department
James Moncur
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Jeffrey Dorfman
University of Georgia
Jerold Zimmerman
University of Rochester
Jody Lipford
Presbyterian College
John A. Baden
Chm., Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment (FREE)
John C. Moorhouse Wake Forest University (Emeritus)
John D. Johnson
Utah State University
John H McDermott
University of South Carolina
John McArthur
Wofford College
John P. Eleazarian
American Economic Association
John Ruggiero
University of Dayton
John Semmens
Laissez Faire Institute
Joseph A. Giacalone
St. John's University, NY
Joseph Haslag University of Missouri- Columbia
Joseph S. DeSalvo University of South Florida - Tampa
Joseph Zoric Franciscan University of Steubenville
Kathleen B. Cooper
SMU’s John Tower Center for Politico Science
Kenneth V. Greene Binghamton University (Emeritus)
Lawrence Benveniste Goizueta Business School, Emory University
Lawrence R. Cima
John Carroll University
Leon Wegge
University of California, Davis
Lloyd Cohen
Scalia Law School
Lucjan Orlowski
Sacred Heart University
Lydia Ortega
San Jose State University
M. Northrup Buechner
St. John's University, New York
Maurice MacDonald
Kansas State University
Michael A. Morrisey
Texas A&M University
Michael Connolly
University of Miami
Michael D Brendler Louisiana State University Shreveport.
Michael L. Marlow
Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo
Moheb A. Ghali
Western Washington University
Nancy Roberts
Arizona State University
Nasser Duella
California State University, Fullerton
Nicolas Sanchez
College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA (Emeritus,)
Norman Lefton
Southern Illinois University, Edwardsville
Paul H Rubin
Emory University
Pavel Yakovlev
Duquesne University
Pedro Piffaut
Columbia University
Peter E. Kretzmer
Bank of America
Peter S. Yun
UVAWISE (Emeritus)
Phillip J. Bryson Brigham Young University (Emeritus)
R. Ashley Lyman
University of Idaho
R. L. Promboin
University of Maryland University College (former)
Richard J. Cebula
Jacksonville University
Richard Kilmer
University of Florida
Richard Timberlake
Prof. of Econ., Univ. of Ga. (Retired)
Richard Vedder
Ohio University
Robert B Helms
American Enterprise Institute (Retired)
Robert F Stauffer
Roanoke College , (Emeritus)
Robert H. Topel
University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Robert Heller
Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
Robert Sauer
Royal Holloway University
Robert Tamura
Clemson University
Roger Meiners
University of Texas-Arlington
Sanjai Bhagat
University of Colorado Boulder
Scott Hein
Texas Tech University
Seth Bied
New York State Tax Department
Stan Liebowitz
University of Texas
Stephen Happel
Arizona State University
T. Craig Tapley
University of Florida
Thomas H. Mayor
University of Houston
Thomas J Kniesner
Claremont Graduate University
Thomas M. Stoker
MIT (retired)
Thomas Saving
Texas A&M University
Timothy Mathews
Kennesaw State University
Tomi Ovaska
Youngstown State University
Tony Lima
California State University, East Bay
Victor a Canto
La Jolla economics
Vijay Singal
Navrang Inc
Wallace Hendricks
University of Illinois
Ward S. Curran Trinity College Hartford Connecticut (Emeritus)
Wayne T. Brough
FreedomWorks Foundation
William B. Fairley
Analysis & Inference, Inc.
William Buchanan
Valdosta State University
William McKillop
Resource Economics (Emeritus)
William R. Allen UCLA Department of Economics
William S. Peirce Case Western Reserve University
Wim Vijverberg
CUNY Graduate Center
Xuepeng Liu
Kennesaw State University
Yuri N. Maltsev
A.W. Clausen Center for World Business, Carthage College
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