#the hole shaming is also an entire thing unto itself as is chainmail and horses but whatever. again im SEASICK

[bellshazes]

"peter bellshazse what the FUCK are you talking about" sorry, put my writing desk in the corner of my apartment that makes me seasick. here is a slightly delayed list of works consulted

Etho's guilt: I can't kill Bdubs! He'd never trust another human again if I did (Limited Life); I can't turn on Bdubs, you know this (Secret Life); bdubs turning etho's LP 'if you use tnt you're a sucker' joke into a huge deal in s7 and etho being weird about it years later; finishing the EPM prismarine farm mosiac just bc bdubs brought it up in double life; etho saying he has a "bad reputation for criticism" in s10 (see below); hole filling/shame endrod/don't tell...'s impact on etho's habits (too much to cover here)

Bdubs' surety of Etho, often explained to his audience: it's perfect because you're etho, mindcrack s4 & bonus bwbs2 speaking of genius; It'll still be you and me. Limited Life; Etho showed off that he's always gonna carry an ender chest around, ep405; Etho carries around a million ender pearls, he's gonna carry around a fishing rod;

Etho doing his Bdubs-splaining (usually TO BDUBS HIMSELF): when he tells an aghast bdubs that he Saw that bdubs doesn't like to wear armor, which is apparently news to bdubs in the spider spawner hangout; I've never known you to make only one story, s7; Etho's 30 brightness PSA, s10; fashion matters a lot to you, wild life; bonus etho calling bdubs' egotism bit in mindcrack s4 (& bonus: You're not the Bdubs I know, Wild Life); etho using bdubs' slow typing against him, s7; etho advising skizz of bdubs' combat habits in limited life

Subsection for ethosplaining his skepticism that Bdubs does/knows something bc he, etho, has not personally verified it: the plethora grudge returns in secret life; s9 and s10 quizzing bdubs on his storage system and attributing the testing to not seeing it on video

Changing each other: Whenever I make something i think, how's etho gonna criticize it, ep4 & I'm making this for Etho (Bdubs describing his imagined audience when making videos, on stream); bdubs taking etho's critique personally, s10 & etho doing the same later; he's been chippin' away at me since 2012 (bdubs and scar on etho's critique style)

Bonus example of them confusing who mimics who with granny armor chainmail chat/we could be twins!, Etho s9 ep2 (also etho s8); and more anciently during the death games armor retrieval ft. fishing rod kill

note that although this list will be included in the Grand Unified Piece of Shit Fucking Thing essay and explained in more detail with the sources i have not included for brevity**, sharp-eyed readers should notice that although the breakpoint of 3L into LL for a shift from antagonism to guilt is obvious, it's contraindicated by the much earlier examples particularly one Etho's part.

been meditating a lot on etho's documented* bdubs-induced self identity anxiety/guilt complex that characterizes solely their post-nHo interactions for reasons I really genuinely cannot pinpoint. this is me connecting dots and not I think true but it's really funny to consider that bdubs is wrong often in his perception of etho but that is directly traceable to what particular self identity anxiety etho experiences (tnt collection is the funniest of these incidents) so when etho, who almost certainly has a more complete theory of mind of bdubs than the other way around, seems hesitant to claim he knows bdubs in that way and talks about wanting to quiz and test bdubs on his storage bc he has never seen bdubs put resource collection methodologies in his videos so it doesn't count as etho knowing it bc it's not direct it's just hearsay or whatever his awareness of his limited knowledge means that they're both right and wrong when bdubs claims etho knows him so perfectly and that bdubs understands etho like nobody else does (nobody does). if etho were a little more wrong, he'd be far more right. bdubs is wrong but has faith and therefore etho cares to rise to the image bdubs has of him - so who is chipping whom down into the builder/player/person the other wants them to be?