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dontlookforme00 · 2 years ago
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Hey. Guess what
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I drew some art for the second arc of my still unreleased fanfic
Because I was bored. But it came out well so here I am
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demonbirds-au · 5 months ago
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I finally finished editing my pinned comment lmao. Anywho I'm thinking about making another fic but am tied between these two.
'A fic where the batfam accidently overwhelms Bruce' or 'a fic where canon universe meets my Au (DemonBirds)'. Both are going to be angsty, and might be multi chapter.
For the first one, it'll be those '5+1' kind of fics. Where the kids (and possibly other people) are unintentionally triggering B's trauma and causing him to become anxious. Since he's, well him, he doesn't show any alarming signs at all—none that are overtly concerning at least; like a slight twitch of his lips, a flinch, etc. He's forcing himself to get it together and to not show any weakness. Eventually, it all boils down to Bruce having a drop/ going utterly numb—which understandably, leads to everyone freaking out. They're used to seeing Bruce mad, angry; hell, even disappointed. But they've never seen him like this. For all his strength and prowess, it's all too easy to forget he was still just a human
Now for the second, I've actually written a small bit of the first chapter. J and D are on patrol when they see an eeriely familiar figure, but when they confront the mystery person, they could tell it wasn't their B. Eventually, after a short fight and some misunderstandings, the 'cosplayer and his demon pet' are brought to the Batcave. Where they are revealed to be Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson—or at least, alternate versions of themselves. Both B's converse and try to figure out how to return them back to their own universe. DemonBirds!Dick however, decides to have an interesting conversations with the alternate batfam
Also, I might genderbent Bruce for this second so I don't getbtoo confused lol—also, we need more female B imo
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alilbitlesbian · 11 months ago
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YOU UPDATED ANOTHER CHAPTER OF GODDAMNED MONSTER FUCKERS?! I FUCING LOVE THAT FIC.
Screaming crying throwing up thoughts prayers sorrows horrors. I fucking breathe that fic, it's the only one brave enough to keep the couple together /j. Sometimes you wanna fuck the monster and his monsterfucker y'know? Anyways I read on ao3 but I saw your post in the Zelda tag and got excited. It's midnight here sorry if I come off too strong so suddenly, I really love your work and I needed to word vomit my feelingddssss
oh my god dw abb coming off too strong writers LOVE this shit
its me, i'm writers ♥
Is there really no others STILL? i know mine was the first on the market but like, I'm surprised there's no more??? Screaming, crying.
Thank you so much for reading !! I tend to keep all my asks in my inbox so I can look at them forever but this much feral energy makes me so happy and deserves a shoutout.
I'm also SUPER excited for the next few chapters, there's gonna be some cryptid shit and im so excited to write bone-chilling wEiRd HaPpEnInGs around the castle.
I'm also cooking up some oneshots for the joy of more fluff, maybe a ficlet on the molduga attack since I fully forgot that was even a thing lmao.
If you ever have any suggestions/oneshots you want to see then feel free to shoot a dm or an ask, I'm a monster who hoards fics (finished) and WIPS (usually nearly finished) in my google docs so there's a fair chance I've already written it in my.. *checks notes* 73 zelda fics, and am happy to write new stuff all the time (when I can find the time).
anyways thanks for the ask and hope you like the next chapter. It should release soon (It's like 20% done). AlsO TO ANY OTHER READERS: I HAVE A BETA NOW, DONE ARE THE DAYS OF ME EDITING CHAPTERS LIKE 20 TIMES! ITS GONNA BE LIKE 10 TIMES INSTEAD.
thank my new pal Khatjia for being willing to go through my writing ♥
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viscerawrites · 2 months ago
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cassian rereads the time is now ; chapter one - the beginning
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FOREWORD.
chapter link.
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SPOILERS & SNIPPETS & AUTHOR COMMENTARY BELOW THE CUT.
According to ao3's "published" date, I started this fic on January 15, 2020. I remember writing this chapter lightning-quick (and on complete impulse) in the therapy waiting room haha.
I will say that I do know my writing then is not up to par with my writing now - at least in my perception. I might be pointing out any glaring flaws I take notice of, but I've definitely improved + I can always edit all of it once I get it continued.
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Chapter 1: The Beginning
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Right off the bat, I'm still really proud of this opening scene, which opens on Jordon (irl stage name Charlie Scene) digging in search of ... something. ;)
I feel it creates a sense of mystery, and I'm still absolutely wild for my idea of Randi (Jordon's wife irl) being his imaginary friend.
He snorts, wiping rain from his eyes. “Why are you here, Randi?” he asks, as if he doesn’t already know the answer.
And of course it’s the same answer as always. “You need a friend right now. That’s why you made me.”
Also sets up several plot points that come way far down the line - so far down that I still hadn't really touched on their full scope even by 66k+ words.
Also features Jordon dropping his shovel, which I wasn't paying attention to and had to quickly explain away in... the second chapter, I think?
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Leads into the next scene, which is Dylan (irl stage name Funny Man) stealing some beers from a gas station (this is genuinely not important) and then finding a strange shard of crystal in a metaphysics shop that he's drawn to.
This also touches on an important part of Dylan's character here; the thread of forgetting.
“I don’t think you can take that,” the teenager says with a frown. Dylan blinks. He’d forgotten he was there.
Dylan looks back at the boy, giving him a lazy grin. “Nah, dawg, it’s all good. Forget about it.” He lets the lull slip into his voice, watching the frown fade from the boy’s face, his eyes glazing over as he forgets Dylan.
While Randi being Jordon's imaginary friend was the first touch on the magic theme of story, this theme of forgetting sowed some very important seeds that I had not put any real thought into before starting this fic.
The shard is also quite significant throughout the plot. ;)
He falls asleep with it there, calm but frowning, and he dreams of men he does not know.
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The next scene introduces Jorel (irl stage name J-Dog) as ... a burglar! Lmao. He steals to survive, but steals only from people he knows are well off, which is already being stated.
This scene is also when I put in another very important thread; the chimera cat he meets, who leads him to an abandoned house w/ strange writing on the wall.
On the wall, written in thin, scratchy black paint, are the words KEEP GOING. And then below it, KEEP FOLLOWING. There is chicken scratch in the shape of a heart beside the words.
Eyes impossibly wide, he steps forward and reaches out to touch the writing.
The paint is fresh.
He leaves immediately, running to the studio.
What is the cat's significance? That's my secret ;)
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Then Danny's scene! This one I remember having a lot of fun writing, and it shows what I think is the more blatant of the magics introduced.
She’s nice enough to him, but his typical bashfulness isn’t helped by the fondness he can feel from her. He’s her favorite regular.
Danny w/ empath powers? Yes <3
This is also when more weird shit is introduced; like the rattling of plates that apparently only Danny can see. And also a strange, seemingly faceless customer looking at him while this happens. As one does when seemingly in a horror movie, Danny says nothing and makes a hasty retreat.
He heads down the street, determined to get away from the wrongness he senses. The wrongness that makes his insides squirm. The feeling of eyes on his back remains until the coffee shop is out of sight.
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Aaaaand to wrap up, my absolute favorite and most ominous part of this chapter; the last line.
On a bitterly rainy, gray evening, George searches.
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taglist: n/a [if anyone's curious abt this fic and wants to be added or removed to the taglist in these rereading posts, just hmu <3]
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stepswowdsen · 6 months ago
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JuAli Comic Idea: Pink Rukh (2022)
Ok I'll just put the rest of my rambles under the cut
EN Version
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JP Version (Without Furigana)
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JP Version (With Furigana)
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Full Version
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Being a Magi, Judar notices the rukh turn pink around Alibaba when he kisses him.
I wrote this in my comic idea dialogue script files before ^^
I'm mainly a visual person so I mainly just wrote the dialogue itself. It's to help guide my future art ideas
Since I've been adding to my JuAli dialogue script ideas lately
My first language is technically Vietnamese (Viet), so excuse the English at times… I try to make my dialogue scripts flow as well as possible
Wdym your cat bf isn't cute~~ /lh
Drew this back in 2022. I think I wanna redraw it again when I'm free (unfortunately I'm not free from assignments yet)
I'm practicing my hand at writing in JP~ If y'all see any typos or mistakes (grammar, etc.) then feel free to tell me! I'll fix them
I recently downloaded manga fonts used in official EN localizations, but I need to download more JP fonts tbh
I think having furigana above kanji is really cool for accessibility and for JP learners like me~ I love how shounen and children's manga typically have it
Thought Rambles
Revamped an old JuAli idea I had (Potential comic idea/dialogue script)
Thought about a JuAli thing (Judar/Alibaba) dialogue script…
I recently added to it. And I did some quick edits
J: Alibaba's accessories have such good contrast with tanned skin in your edits <3
Me: YEAHHH IT HAS SUCH NICE CONTRAST AGAINST HIS HAIR AND ACCESSORIES <3
C: Oh valid
(Magi: Ch. 288 - Ch. 111)
POV: You're Alibaba and you pull back from the guy you were making out with, just to see him looking at you like this
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(Magi: Ch. 267)
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Me: I imagine Judar just looks at Alibaba all smug like this, until he gets the tables turned back on him.
C: Oh that's cute
LMAO seems right
Me: The smug sense of satisfaction that Judar gets when he realizes that Alibaba's rukh are all pink, and teases him about it… It's so cute. Since Judar's a Magi, he would notice that all the rukh around Alibaba turned pink.
Me: LMAO yeah Judar being annoyed by Alibaba is cute. He gets flustered when Alibaba tries to imply that he likes him back (that he also enjoyed it)
C: Cute :")
C: Aaaa yeah makes sense
C: Aaa cute!!
Me: I forgot where it was, but I think I vaguely remember Aladdin tell Hakuryuu that his rukh was turning pink when he was blushing. I think in some early chapter panel.
C: YEA I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS
Furigana
Intended meaning is kanji, but the speaker verbally says the furigana out loud.
Furigana = Small symbols alongside or above the original characters, usually written in hiragana or katakana (but sometimes kanji) that denotes the pronunciation of a word
The alternative reading provides the same purpose - you can read them both, since the writer considers them both equivalent and relevant. The reader takes the meaning of the furigana.
They can use a different word to emphasize the speaker's tone (or character), or add a certain nuance to the text.
Furigana (Continued)
Furigana is also widely used in manga, but not all of them have it. From what I've noticed, shounen manga typically has it, because the audience will also include young kids and teens. Which probably explains why it's in the FGO: Shimousa manga. Biggest pro of kids' manga in general is that they have furigana alongside kanji~
I prefer furigana for accessibility reasons (ex. so I don't need to search up a kanji, or it makes it easier to search up a kanji if I don't know a certain word)
I also hate how a lot of animanga LNs (light novels) don't have it. Like I got the KHR LNs and ROTRK LN recently but each KHR LN is like 300 pages, and the same goes for the ROTRK LN. And it doesn't have furigana, bruh (except for a few specific words). I'll read it in the future, but not now.
I just checked the KHR LN previews out of curiosity and no furigana except for specific words (though a bit more than the ROTRK LN), and really… Why do LNs do this to us... It's so much easier to read kanji when there's furigana, man. Shounen manga typically does this.
That's why I'm gonna try to include furigana for all my fan-comics in JP in the future~~
Official Manga Localizations
Also god bruh Viz's way of translating things/prose makes everything sound so samey and generic DKLAKLDSKLDKLS
Like in the above panels? It stands out to me as someone bilingual who can read JP
So I attached the Magi: EN fan-TL as well. Sense Scans was doing a really good job with Magi's EN fan-TL.
I think it's the same fan-TL team all the way through (and they eventually correct character name spellings as the series goes on)
I feel like Viz just makes individual characters' speech styles just sound the same bruh
Though I get they have to shorten the dialogue to make things fit in the speech bubbles, in terms of typesetting
Usually, fan-TLs are almost always more accurate in terms of meaning, but official TLs sound more natural in English. Such a shame that Viz always gets the rights to shounen series.
Viz's Magi official EN TL is decent thankfully. Thank god cuz they botched the EN TLs of my other fave series like KHR, MMBN/EXE, and for my friend, PokeSpe, etc.
I'm a Viz hater cuz they did my beloved KHR soooo dirty. Viz only translated 16/42 volumes of KHR, a quarter of the series, and then tried to hide that they ever translated the series and was super shady about it. But their ROTRK official EN TL is actually really good. I'm surprised
I think I would've hunted Viz (/lh) (/hj) if Magi got a terrible (and incomplete) official localization like KHR did
But I wish Yen Press did the translation. Out of the 3 main manga localizers, Viz, Kodansha, Yen Press, in terms of translation (TL) quality, it goes like this, imo
Yen Press >>>>>>>>> Kodansha >>> Viz
Yen Press did the Kagerou Daze (KagePro) Manga and LNs, Pandora Hearts, Black Butler (Kuroshitsuji), etc. Their TLs are so good and their translation quality tends to be on par with and/or even surpass EN fan-TLs.
Misc Rambles
I first started using CSP in 2016! I've been using it ever since ^^ I like its wide array of brushes, access to 3D models, CSP Assets, etc.
CSP's Text tool was so dog shit for the longest time I'm glad there's finally been improvements to it within the last few years
I like how CSP allows you to input Ruby text. Furigana is a type of Ruby text.
Though I think the tool needs an easier process cuz you have to highlight a kanji, go into the settings, and add the kana characters as furigana, manually. Tedious process tbh... I hope they make it easier someday
Though I'm glad it includes the Ruby text feature
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Notion
I love using Notion to type my AU ideas, dialogue scripts, OC documents, and school files in general.
Notion still needs more features (ie. lack of auto correct, lack of different fonts, Notion pages lag with bigger files, etc.) but it's so cool.
I like the pros though like there are unlimited pages, it can embed links/videos directly, can import peoples' templates, and is generally really nice for formatting things. I prefer it over Google Docs for that
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zukkas · 3 years ago
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hey ! so i wanna write a zukka au and i have it all planned out and everything but every time i sit down to write it i Just Can’t do u have any ,,, tips or tricks or like satanic rituals /j or anything that u could send to a writer in need ?
i am absolutely The Worst™ person you could ask about this, it literally took me a year to publish the second chapter of a fic lmao
...multiple times
i think the best advice i can give you is to just open that document and start writing, esp bc you said you have it all planned out, and things are eventually gonna start coming to you as you go. just write those first twenty, thirty words, even if you think it's shit, it's gonna evolve into much more and you can always come back and edit what you don't like, but you can't edit something that's not written
rough drafts are called rough drafts for a reason, so don't expect it to be great (i typed gay for some reason--) from the get go (tho if it is that's amazing), what's important is that you've at least written Something, you have a starting point that you can now edit and tweak into the final shape you want it to take
and honestly just have fun with it! i've only kinda recently started doing more comedic/rom-com-y kinda fics and it's what's the most fun to me. as much as i LOVE angst, i need to be in a certain mood to write it, so if something's not going well and you can change the tone, switch things around, etc, just go for it!
and if you want someone to look over things always feel free to message me ❤️ i'm free to beta anytime! i'm probably not the best at it but a fresh set of eyes makes a world of difference sometimes
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alo-piss-trancy · 4 years ago
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okay, i just sent you what i have so far for chapter two of the jade fic through the submit post thing. it's actually not as bad as i remembered, lol 😅 it picks up from before the flashback that started at the beginning of the first chapter. feel free to edit, add on, and post it, if you'd like to. i have it set up so the h/c part will be jori friendship, but you could easily make it borade if you so desire.
OH MY GOD ANON I LOVED YOUR FIC!!! LIKE ABSOLUTELY L O V E D IT!!! YES IT IS BETTER THAN U REMEMBERED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY REALLY GOOD AND YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF 💛💛💛
I actually had to like, put it down for a few minutes at the wetting scene and just like, stare at the ceiling before I could gain the courage to keep reading, that second-hand embarrassment is SO STRONG oh my god my face was pure red aldkglhl (and just to clarify I 100 percent mean that as a compliment!!! Like it was so well-written and emotional I needed a moment to not die for poor J/ade akdkcl, Top Tier gut reaction to this fic, can't wait to reread it a zillion times and get that gut punch again RIP. IN FRONT OF ALL FIVE OF THEM JFC THAT'S SO MUCH MEANER THAN WHAT I HAD PLANNED TBH, YOU'RE A LOWKEY SADIST AND I LOVE IT)
Why could I picture that C/at-R/obbie-A/ndre bit so clearly lmao, the store excuse was so in character and them having to drag poor A/ndre out bc he didn't get it was so funny. It was right in line with the show's gags XD
The comfort and fluff in this was so sweet and cute oh my goodness 😭 T/ori crying out of embarassment/sympathy for J/ade is such a T/ori think to do akfkhl bless her heart 💛 And B/eck hhhh he felt so bad and this is all so comforting/humiliating for J/ade, you're gonna kill me with this fluff it's SO GOOD
AND THE TEXTING IDEA
I'M EMBARRASSED TO SAY MUCH LIKE POOR J/ADE I WAS ALSO TOO DUMB TO THINK OF THAT LMAO
IT COULD HAVE SAVED HER SO MUCH SUFFERING GOOD LORD c':
I'm lowkey wheezing over that line about saying emojis aloud XD B/eck don't you know? As the main character T/ori has all kinds of amazing powers~ (but lol i love it ngl. I was admittedly squinting trying to figure out what it is too pfft. A planner/calendar? But also if u lean back really far it does kind of almost look like a toilet lmao, is that why u picked it? )
OH MY GOD THAT LAST LINE
J/ADE HONEY I'M SO SORRY FOR LAUGHING AT THE WORST DAY OF YOUR LIFE BUT RIP
Actually one of my favourite things in omo fics (because I love Maximum Embarrassment before they get that sweet sweet fluffy comfort) is that one last awkward kick when they're already down and emotionally wounded, so that was perfect lmao
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Anon istg I really don't even know what I could add or edit for what you have so far, it's like, Completely Perfect as is akdkglkl. 💛💛💛 This fic is such a treasure!!!! And a much better conclusion than my half baked idea lmao (like literally all I had planned was T/ori finds out/witnesses it this time. But I had NO PLAN on how to actually go through with it, much less deal with the other characters so really this is PERFECT. I honestly wouldn't change anything).
Like if I added anything I guess I could give the h/c with T/ori and B/eck a shot just because the potential awkwardness of what you set up has me so curious lmao. I can only imagine c': Did you have any ideas already in mind for how that was gonna go?
But I'm gonna have to think on it for a bit because my brain is like, just pure mush right now from absorbing all this awesomeness lol, seriously I'm gonna reread this SO MANY TIMES 👀👌
I really don't know what to do with it later as far as posting goes tbh, I'll have to read up on how tumblr submissions work before I touch it~ :0c Although if it's possible to copy-paste, would you maybe be okay with me uploading it as the Official Second Chapter of the fic on AO3? With full credit to you of course! (I could just mention an anon wrote it, or since you already made this throwaway tumblr I could link back to that?)
If you're not alright with that by all means tell me and I won't, and it can just stay in my inbox or something! But even if I wasn't biased about this fic I can genuinely say it's very enjoyable and should be preserved! 💛
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comicteaparty · 5 years ago
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April 4th-April 10th, 2020 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble  chat that occurred from April 4th, 2020 to April 10th, 2020.  The chat focused on the following question:
What is something you’ve improved with in regards to writing or comic creation thanks to working on your story?
carcarchu
Oh this one i can answer definitively. it's 100% lineart. forcing myself to have to do lineart for hours everyday is definitely a way to force yourself to get better at it while i still don't like it it's something that i can do now without being scared about it
shadowhood (SunnyxRain)
Colouring. I had to get really creative in expressing emotion and hinting plot devices with colour. Also got much better with drawing gesture drawings due to looking at a lot of references!
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Either writing dialogue or drawing/painting backgrounds... I used to be particularly awful at writing dialogue. It was too stiff and formal, and sounded a lot like old prose. Now, because of writing a comic and going through several scripts, the dialogue is a lot more natural, and the pacing is more realistic to actual conversations. And the other: backgrounds. I really used to not even draw them at all, and doing a comic forced me to have to think about environments in scenes. So I went from drawing floating characters to having to consider where they are and how it affects the story/mood.(edited)
Feather J. Fern
Paneling! That was my main focus to figure out how to do good paneling to have clearer pages
Deo101 [Millennium]
Honestly? Everything. It's all gotten better and I've learned so much. I would say my biggest improvement is probably in my time management, and art wise is probably composition and layouts. But it's hard to pick because I've grown so much in every aspect!
chalcara [Nyx+Nyssa]
Biggest thing I learned was to keep the story small and focused - and that the smaller, more human struggles are much better in creating tension than the whole default "the world's gonna end!" thing. Mind you, I still love a good "world's ending" story, but you gotta make people CARE about the people in that world first!
Holmeaa - working on WAYFINDERS
ohohohoooo I have done more drawing in photoshop in this short time I have worked on Wayfinders, than the rest of my life! That has given me some skills for sure! Coloring is another one, and generally just efficiency and flow in a comic
Nutty (Court of Roses)
For me it's been my use of color, and getting more confident in experimenting with it to really drive home a scene's mood!
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
The clearest improvement I always notice is my layouts - I’ve gotten more adventurous with panel shapes and placement as time has gone on, experimenting with more interesting designs for the whole page. Some of those experiments haven’t been totally successful but it always feels like a worthwhile try. I’ve gotten some really, REALLY cool layouts out of these experiments, and I love seeing how dynamic the panels have become compared to my first chapter. Also speed. I’m so much faster now. Thank gooooooodness (edited)
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
@LadyLazuli (Phantomarine) I've definitely noticed the experimental panel layouts! They're really cool.
AntiBunny
Planning. Book 2 is when I started using sketchbook thumbnails to plan ahead. The luxury of that first draft meant I could rethink panel layouts and how to best express the events happening if I first had an idea of what was happening laid out.
Also digital art by necessity since I switched to digital during the current arc. I was decent at lineart already, but other aspects have really challenged me to grow as an artist. I had to totally rethink the way I create backgrounds for instance. During this time the background quality actually declined a little while I got used to a new method, but experience has improved my skills greatly as I force myself into new methods.
DanitheCarutor
Hmmm maybe paneling, speechbubbles and backgrounds? My current project is my second real attempt at doing a comic, but I have learned a lot of stuff from the community and general art and story tutorials. Backgrounds and bubbles were the worst for me when first starting out, I only read manga before starting so the speechbubble shapes did not fit with how English is written. Plus I've only drawn wooded fantasy settings before making my comic, so using a ruler, figuring out perspective points and drawing buildings was very new to me. I still hate drawing cities and such, but I've gotten a lot better at it and it is easier to do now. Since I mostly stuck with B&W before my current project, coloring also kind of improved? Depending on who's looking at it. Lmao If I were to think about story/characters/dialogue, I have no idea if I've improved. Honestly, I don't pay much attention to the quality. Also my brain kinda says it's all bad regardless of what I make.(edited)
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
For my Improvements: I'm getting better at my comic panels, as I adjust to the vertical style. Before I've always drawn the standard format. It's more than just boxes, I try to keep a variety of sizes. I'm picking up roughly how much 'gutter space' I need per 2-3 panels.etc I'm also improving on choosing colors that fits my love of detailed linework.(edited)
OH! I'm also learning about Clip studio shortcuts, how to use the assets they provide which makes the process, abit easier on me. Things I need to change, is I want to get a good speedy coloring style, without referring to my usual coloring.(edited)
Tuyetnhi (Only In Your Dreams!)
the more I worked on the comic, the more I feel ambitious in making different angles and perspective. So it's really hitting me out of my comfort zone which is good! lol Though I'm trying to keep in mind of my speed, what I feel like I've improved a bit is trying to keep in mind of paneling and dialogue.
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
Process! Space and i have definitely figured out the most productive way to produce content at the rate and quality that also provides us with time for our own projects. Comics are a useful tool that helps you discover ways to better organize your creative workflow for sure!
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
I think probably scenery. I used to dread drawing inanimate objects but now I feel more confident in filling in a scene & even look forward to it sometimes. Maybe also page composition and paneling but I still have a lot to learn there
eli [a winged tale]
One of the reasons I embarked on the webcomic journey is to push myself to improve not only storytelling but also utilizing art to create a reader experience that would be difficult to replicate with just words. I’d like to think that 9 months into making A Winged Tale, I’ve improved on deciding when is a good opportunity to invest more into backgrounds vs character dynamics and when should be focused more on sequences of panels and composition. While the comic is written in a four panel format, more and more I’m finding areas where the story could be told by breaking those rules (attached pic). It’s a balance and I hope going forward I will improve more in pushing the limits of panels and find ways to express the story in fun and interesting ways.(edited)
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
Wow that's a very good description @eli [a winged tale] I look forward to reading more of your story journey
eli [a winged tale]
Thanks so much Joichi! I’m eager to keep learning~
Capitania do Azar
I'm gonna go with planning and actually getting it done. I'm so much faster because now the process is much more streamlined to me
kayotics
My whole comic was started s an exercise to just get better at comics generally so I’d probably say every part I’ve improved at? The biggest things are probably colors and the upfront planning process
Phin (Heirs of the Veil)
Ooof hard question. I think my main improvement lies with page and speechballoon layouts and writing natural feeling dialouge. I'd say maybe also character acting?
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
I'm slowly learning how to create more engaging comic narrative. I read and research in the polished prem webcomics to see what makes them engaging? Like I'm going to challenge myself by creating a series of short stories with a reoccurring set of characters. Every new comic series I create is an experience, trial and error. Sometimes I skip the writeup and just go in blind, trust my own instincts. I'm glad to reach out and talk about it than in my own head. I hope by this year, I'll have at least 2 chapters of Hybrid Dolls out.(edited)
keii’ii (Heart of Keol)
I've definitely gotten better at planning/ outlining multiple chapters ahead of time. I did not even do this when I was doing the first 10 something chapters. (I did attempt an outline before I began the comic, but the story changed significantly from the outline by the time I started the comic, and I did not try to do it again for a long while.) I can't remember when I started, but I do recall having a lot of trouble the first time I tried to do it. It's gotten a little easier each time, though. In fact, I just spent the past few days outlining the next few very important chapters, de-tangling some big tangles. I'm really glad my outlining (and overall writing) skills had leveled up, because HOO boy, I don't think my 2014-2015 self could have done this!
I also became friends with enviros. I had already become somewhat comfortable drawing perspective when HoK started, but I had a sort of mechanical approach to it, like "oh I need some enviro for these establishing shots, guess I'll draw them." But now I LOVE drawing enviros! (some types anyway...) It's my comfort activity, something I treat myself to after a long day! In the thumbnails for my next few pages, there's a few enviro-heavy panels that I have to remove, because I drew too many of them (and the pacing got too slow as a result). I have to stop myself from drawing too many of these.
My biggest improvement is probably I've come to understand my characters and my themes much better, but that's more of a "I got better at making HoK" than a "I got better at making comics." There's definitely a difference between the two.
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
@keii’ii (Heart of Keol) ah I totally understand I tried the outline method before I start but my story changed alot after I drew it. So it start to feel like a waste of time for me, but I'll still write an outline to make sure to plan where my story heads(edited)
keii’ii (Heart of Keol)
Yeah! I needed to draw those first few chapters to understand the direction of my own story.
The drawing part is an essential part of self-reflection, to try to understand what it is that I want out of the story. The answer has always been there in my heart, but I'm not able to see it clearly from the get-go.
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
I end up breaking scenes and put them in for future episodes, since I want to get a certain flow in the story.
It could be tricky to see what it is you want out of the story until you are in at least 3 chapters in?
keii’ii (Heart of Keol)
I needed way more than 3 chapters -- though granted, my chapters are short, so that could be a part of it
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
I see the early first script as testing the water. like a test to figure out the characters personalities. Unless you are bringing in old characters which you knew before?(edited)
keii’ii (Heart of Keol)
Even if the characters have been with you for a while, unless I have made a comic with them, there is a big chance that the characters will completely change, too.
DanitheCarutor
You know, I was thinking about about this, mostly about how I wouldn't have been happy if I was able to finish my comic the day I started. Then I realized I'm happy that I didn't. The first chapter wasn't the best, I was just learning how to coloring a comic, still fleshing out my characters and was still brainstorming small kinks in the story. I also still didn't have as much of an understanding of perspective, or panel and bubble layout. Even though I still have a lot I need to work on, I've gotten a lot better in all those aspects. Even though my use of color is weird, I've definitely gotten much more confident in it, enough so that I experiment and take a lot more risks with style. Even though my panelling can be boring, I have a much better understanding of how I want a page to look. I've improved a lot with my planning as well, like even though my thumbnailing/storyboarding only takes maybe 30, I've learned to step away for a bit if I don't like a layout, or analyzing why I don't like it and brainstorming ways to make it better. If I had magically finished the comic all at once, it would look really bad and may have been less readable.
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
That is inspiring to hear about your improvement @DanitheCarutor
Natsu-no-Hikari
Chiming in! Just this week, Miko (my co-creator) and I were discussing how far we've come from when we started our first comic (https://liarsgotoparadise.com/) vs. where we are now. I think there have been a lot of learn experiences, such as art, dialogue, general editing - but especially with pacing and character interaction. We regret that we didn't stop to focus more on that interaction, as we wanted to move ahead in the story...and now we can't change that, except to start now and not allow ourselves to grow impatient. Take our time and enjoy the journey - that's our new motto. There's a time to rush ahead in perilous moments, but there's also definitely a time to catch our breaths and let the characters mingle and speak. It's an improvement that will become more noticeable going forward in Liars and our second comic as well.
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dontlookforme00 · 2 years ago
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