#the court of owl was destroyed by Talon!Dick and Jason because their morals are very similar

[giotanner]

Talon Dick Grayson and Red Hood-Jason Todd have, in my opinion, potential that they never developed in the comics.

We had for too short a time “what if” of the “Gray Son of Gotham” in Nightwing 2016 and to see a Talon interact with the Bat-Family, team up with an outsider like Red Hood... has its charms. And tough fights, even over different ideals.

The Court of Owls would still fall and Batman would be there to find the culprit of his downfall: a Talon who was dazzled by the word freedom and teamed up with his former Robin.

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[ghost-bxrd]

Hello! I don't really know how this works, but I'm asking about a reverse Owl Song, like say Jason is older, and when the Court is destroyed he escapes, and finds a recently orphaned Dick who is hellbent on revenge. Jason adopts him, desperate for connection after years of being a Talon, and Dick kinda imprints on him because he's never really been alone before. And eventually, Bruce finds not only the boy he wanted to adopt, Dick, but also the missing Talon he'd been looking for

Awe yeah, they find each other and help each other. And while Jay is older than Dick and much more cynical than Talon!Dick ever was, it’s recently-orphaned-Dick’s rage and sadness but still undeniable kindness that draws him in.

And while Talon!Dick was protective but still so very unsure of himself, Talon!Jason would be the fiercest guardian ever right away because he’s never had as much of a moral dilemma. He doesn’t feel nearly as much guilt about killing as Talon!Dick does. It’s just a part of his life, and now that he’s not with the Court anymore he’s allowed to strictly kill only the bad guys. Which is a comfort in its own way. Meanwhile Dick isn’t very happy about this weird owl(?) dude that seems hellbent on bundling him in blankets and heaping dead mice on him???? But hey, anything’s better than foster home. And the guy’s showing him some awesome moves with those knives.

Dick tracks down Zucco with Talon!Jason’s help within a couple weeks tops, but when it comes down to it Jason refuses to let Dick kill him and does it in his stead. Dick is kind of furious with him for a bit but Jason is wholly unapologetic. He may not have a problem with killing, but he knows that tiny humans shouldn’t do that and it’s wrong. (And he was afraid that doing so would have killed the light in his eyes the way it did to Jason).

They’re off to a bumpy start but in the end they manage. Dick teaches Jason how to be human again and Dick learns how to fight and protect himself (and others).

Also, Dick teaches Jason about cuddles. Jason doesn’t know what this warm kind of semi-smothering is supposed to be but he really likes the warmth of it and promptly starts throwing together his very first nest (it’s what the owls do when they have young and want to keep them under their wings, so humans must do this too, right? Right????)

(Dick is confused but he’s not complaining because the strange pile of pillows and blankets is really damn soft and warm and Jason’s starting to get real good at cuddling.)

[dickie-gayson]

(1)So I’m kind of late, but I’m here to review Me and the Devil. And scream about parts I liked. Also this got awfully long, so I hope you don’t mind being spammed. Its been a while, so I re-read the first couple chapters of Me and the Devil. I may be repeating things from my last review but oh well. First off, man do I enjoy the lines about how Talon finds the sheer amount of emotion Jason gives off fascinating due to his own inability to feel much of anything. And wow, Dick is fully gone.

(2) I’m particularly fond of the line where Talon reflects about how much Dick Grayson enjoyed jumping between rooftops, and how its just mechanical at this point. Honestly thats one of the truest signs showing that the Dick we know and love is gone. Like that joy he finds is so vital to who he is and that line says so much about his current state in so few words. Though I obviously hate what they did to Dick, the way the Court of Owls got brought down is so poetic. They spent so long

(3) controlling Gotham that they tried to control something they had no hope of containing. I’ve always thought making him a Talon was an objectively bad idea, because no one can really control him forever. Dick’s always been tricky like that, even though quite a few people have tried, which was good when he had strong morals. Now he has no morals.“At first he thought it was Nightwing, back from wherever he disappeared to.” Oooo boy he doesn’t even KNOW how right, and how wrong he is dammit.

(4) Also just softly saying confess is terrifying. Jason is still Jason (albeit in his most damaged phase). Comments on how stupid the mask is first, worries about the killer part after. Also I know this is terrifying and all but I laughed at how Jason’s sitting their like “its just too many knives. Who needs that many knifes”.Talon allowing Jason to choose the fate of his attacker is an interesting look into whatever tiny bit of code Talon has left.I’m really enjoying the commentary

(5) and thoughts of the guys working for the Arkham Knight. I loved how much his militia respected him in the game, and how they honestly seemed to like him. However Jason and Talon spin their new working relationship, it would be super cool to see the underlings perspective. I live for people meeting Talon (which is why I liked that scene with Carmine Falcone so much, as well as the second one where the men get to witness Carmines description of Talon and his possessiveness).

(6) Now onto the third chapter. It hurts how much Jason is being reminded of the Joker in this chapter, and hurts even more when Talon starts to use this against him and confirm his fears about still being controlled by the Joker. The parallel is beautiful and painful, as Talon is trying to give Jason the same sense of power and freedom he had when utterly destroying the court of owls. The amount of possessiveness that practically drips off of every word Talon says is wonderful. The worst part

(7) is that being protective over his siblings is a 100% Dick Grayson thing. Talon would almost be easier to stomach if his motivations in this story were completely unlike the Dick we know. But seeing his protectiveness twisted and malformed almost beyond recognition is horrifying. Oh jeeze I’m so scared and so ready to see what on have become. I’m not sure how far you plan on taking this, but like the amount of people who care about these two, it would destroy them. At least you can still

(8) see Jason in the Arkham Knight. But Dick is gone, and I honestly can’t wait for the reaction to that. Final notes I have are that I really enjoy your writing style overall. Comparing your various fics, you can write vastly different tones with the same level of excellent quality. I died laughing at some of you humour fics, and this has a super dark tone that actually does that aspect properly, which I think is awesome. Sometimes I find that when happier characters go dark in fics I often

(9) take a step back and think “okay, thats too far”. But your Dick has enough in his past and the right connections to his past characteristics and his behaviour feels right for this state. I also appreciate how even in this, you manage to work in a few happier tone humour lines in a way that feels smooth to me, and them quickly switch back to the darker tone without the tone switch being super bumpy or catching the reader off-guard. I’m also a fan of how your style flows. Like honestly thank

(10) you so much for writing this. I look forward to whatever comes out next. (I’m also a huge fan of More Shej, but thats for another day) Anyway, thats definitely enough for now. Catch you later *finger guns*

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BUT SRSLY, MY HEART. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Reading all the stuff you enjoyed just made my night, no joke. Hell, it made my month. I’d be writing a more eloquent response but my mind is kinda just repeating various screeching noises of joy lmfaoo (ngl i’ve been staring at and re-reading this for like 3 hrs) I also thought The Court trying to convert Dick was always a Bad Idea for those same reasons! Bruce could barely get Dick to follow orders without getting into a fight, the Court wouldn’t be able to keep him reined in for long. He’s just too stubborn lmfao

I also loved how his men treated him in the AK game (at least before the end lol) and was highkey thinking of doing a mini-series from their pov of either Me and the Devil or just the random going-ons of being one of The Arkham Knight’s men.

I’m p excited to get to the others meeting Talon, especially Bruce and Alfie. I’m such a sucker for the twisted way that Talon Dick could be and very much enjoy playing with the possibilities. 

I could sit here all night and keyboard mash over my joy at this message as well as talk about the things you pointed out.  THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN. These reviews give me life and really help keep me motivated to write.