#the boatbang is dumb

[esther-dot]

My friend is watching got for the first time, and I started rewatching with her from season 5 onwards. I'll preface this saying that she has liked it a lot, but she's more of a casual viewer for now and also forgets some things sometimes lol. So the other day we watched the boatbang episode. We started s8 yesterday, and in the dragon date scene, when jon and dany kissed, she said "they kissed!!! Have they kissed before???". And I was like "my friend... They literally had sex last episode..." She got shocked for a moment and then said... "Aaaah yes, it's true... now I remember Tyrion lurking in the background". So the scene was so epic that my friend literally forgot that it existed and what made her remember was Tyrion's weird face lmao

Let’s all just take a moment to the mourn the fact that the final season of GoT had a scene that is accurately described as “the dragon date scene.” I get secondhand embarrassment each time I think about it 😂

I love this message because I too was a casual viewer, but it was a show I actually watched (wasn’t doing other stuff or reading…) and I thought boatsex came out of nowhere which made me feel pretty dumb, so I’m relieved others found it so random they can’t even remember it! (Wish that were me)

Nothing like the epic romance of the series being upstaged by a guy standing in the shadows with an inscrutable look on his face.

[shewholovestoread]

Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 6 - Beyond the Wall

So, i finally caved.. I thought I would wait for the episode to air but the temptation was too great. This season feels more and more like it’s devolving and that’s not a good thing. The writing seems to have gone from bad to worse with characters being dumbed-down and some straight-up being ruined.

Now, I will discuss the episode here so all my thoughts are under the cut.

Let’s start with the world’s dumbest idea ever, get a wight south of the wall. I’m stunned that Tyrion thought this was a good idea and that Jon decided to go on the hunt. He’s a king for crying out loud, his people need him alive, not frozen to death somewhere or worse, undead, under the Night King’s thrall. The sheer amount of things that could have gone wrong were through of the roof. I’m sorry Davos, but you need to be doing a better job when it comes to advising your king, the one you’re supposed to help survive.

And then hooray! they got one wight and lost good men and a dragon in the process, I’m not sure I would call that a fair trade. That Dragon is now under the Night King’s control and is about to become a royal pain in the ass! Ugh!! The stupidity is astounding!

I did like Dany in this episode. I don’t much care for the Jon x Dany relationship that’s being shoved down our throats but it’s okay, I’ll live. I did like that she doesn’t completely rely on Tyrion’s advice. I love Tyrion but not doing anything was not sound advice. As Dany stated, her inaction already cost her Dorne and Highgarden, she wasn’t about to lose a potential alliance with the King in the North.

On a side note, there seems to some space-time issues with this season. How did Dany and her dragons get to Jon and his men so quickly? Can dragons also teleport? It made no sense.

We have the boatbang! to look forward to next episode an honestly, I don’t care either way. First off, how and why is Dany suddenly in love with Jon? They’ve hardly spent any time together and when they were, they always viewed each other with wariness. Besides, I thought she was too busy on her mission to get together with yet another guy.

And need I remind you that they are both Targs and Dany’s primary goal is to sit on the Iron Throne, she will tolerate no competition. Also Jon’s Targ status puts his kinghsip in serious jeopardy. The Northern Lords DO NOT like the Targs, they don’t trust them. They will not be happy that he bent his knee and worse, expects them to do the same. Even Sansa will have a tough time accepting this. This is Jon’s shortcoming, his inability to see that the people he claims to lead might be unhappy and dissatisfied with his decisions. What’s his plan should they refuse to bend their knee? He can’t very well force them to, he doesn’t have a personal army to get them to threaten them into agreeing with him. They don’t like Dany, a foreign invader and they will trust Jon even less when his true lineage is revealed.

The whole Sansa vs Arya plot is so annoying and exceptionally badly written. It makes no sense for the sisters to be fighting. Neither one of them is who they were all those years ago. They’ve both changed and in ways that neither of them foresaw. Arya, at least, knew she wanted to be an assassin and trained for it. But Sansa? Humiliated, raped and tortured. The ONLY reason she survived was because she was smart. She wasn’t wrong when she said that Arya would not have survived KL as she did just as it is true that Sansa could not survived the training that Arya underwent. They both went through horrible things but where Arya chose her path, Sansa didn’t get the same luxury.

We, the audience know that LF is playing the two sisters against each other. He wants to isolate Sansa and for a second I thought it worked when she went to him to ask him about the letter. But I still think that Sansa hasn’t fallen for his games even though Arya seems to have. He mentions Brienne and that in a conflict between the two sisters, Brienne would be honour-bound to intercede. One would think that with the intensity of the conflict between the two sisters, it would make sense to have her there. Instead, Sansa sends her away. Why do that unless she wanted her far away so she wouldn’t get sucked into LF’s schemes. Think about it, having Brienne by her side makes her stronger because so long as Brienne is with her, it would give Arya pause because she too likes her.

I think the scene where Sansa and LF are talking, Sansa is trying to gauge LF’s true motives. She’s also trying to gather where Arya might have gotten the letter from and she confirmed her suspicions about him. Why would LF keep that particular letter when it serves no purpose, except it puts Sansa in a precarious position.

The second scene with Arya and Sansa was especially painful to watch. You could see the horror on Sansa’s face and the fear. She honestly thought that Arya was going to kill her and wear her face. UGH! Both Sophie Turner and Maisie Williams are so good in that scene. Also when did Arya turn into a certifiable psychopath that she would threaten her own sister. Come on D & D!! This is some shitty writing and conflict for the sake of conflict. Seeing these two women who have gone through so much and are finally together and instead of banding together and supporting each other, they are at each others’ throats.

*Also, Bran, feel free to jump in anytime what with you being the all-seeing Three-Eyed Raven and what not. How can he not see what’s happening right under his nose. LF is playing his sisters against each other while he continues to brood in his chair.*

But the bit that threw me off was when Arya gave the Valerian steel dagger to Sansa. One way of looking at it was Arya telling her that she could have the dagger but it wouldn’t help her, Sansa would never see her coming. But that’s not how the scene was played. The handing over suddenly breaks the tension and you can see the confusion on Sansa’s face. She doesn’t see it as a tool of defense against Arya. She has no idea why Arya handed it over.

Which leads me think that it will be Sansa who will kill LF with the Valerian steel dagger. LF tried to give it to Bran who in turn gave it to Arya and who finally handed it over to Sansa. We also have her dialogue from the trailer, “The lone wolf dies but the pack survives.”  Of course, I could be wrong, but in that case, it makes no sense for Sansa to have the dagger. She’s not one to wield a weapon, her weapons of choice are her wits. But for LF, she’s going to make an exception. She was the one who ordered Ramsay's death and even stood and watched as his own dogs ate him alive. But with LF, things will get even more personal, he was instrumental in Ned’s death and got the whole thing rolling. He is personally responsible for Sansa’s rape at Ramsay’s hands. It would be poetic justice for her to kill him. All the while looking into his eyes and seeing as he finally realises that he’s been outplayed with Arya standing behind her, a smug smile on her face. I need this to happen. I need Arya and Sansa to be a unified front and fuck anyone who tries to fuck with the Starks.

P.S. - I love that little head tilt that Sansa does when she’s trying to be brave. It gets me every time.

[undeadmanbun]

That was some good wall shit and long overdue, plus Vis now a confirmed white walker (flyer?). Just a shame the boatbangers are entirely to blame, those dumb fucks.

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[occupyvenus]

So, Bran is informing Jon that “the army of the dead is marching on Eastwatch”, making it sound like they are coming really close (at least that’s what how it sounds to me) and … instead of getting their armies ready to face them (after all Danielle is on board with the whole White Walkers situation now and I would even be okay with Jon agreeing to a compromise a la “you help us defeat the night king and then I’ll kneel to you”, desperate times ...), Jon allegedly decides to risk his life by travelling all the way north, going on a wight hunt, travelling back south to show it to his colleagues and then going back north to face the army of that dead that was closing in on eastwatch 3-5 months ago? (Missandei does say that the journey from Winterfell to Dragonstone takes very long, even if it isn’t shown on screen, so .... travel time is the same it just doesn’t translate to movie-time ) 

Has Jon sent the Night King a memo to wait with “walking past the Mountain in an arrow-shape near Eastwatch”, so he can finish the stupid wighthunt- dragonpit-boatbang plot or how does he expect that all to happen in time? 

[occupyvenus]

Omg, no where in the leaks does it say Jon bends the knee! After the wight hunt, he wants to bend the knee bc he's really grateful that dany decided to come help them and he's also feeling bad about viserion dying but he physically can't. Dany asks him about the north indp. then says shes doesnt want him to bend the knee anymore. At the dragonpit meeting he sides with dany over cersei but doesnt bend the knee to her. The issue is him picking a side bc it doesnt unite the realm like he intends

Hi nony! This has been sitting in my inbox for a couple of days (sry it’s pretty full and I do have a life outside of tumblr ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, plus, I’m shit at replying in an acceptable time-frame anyway … don’t take it personally) 

That would actually … make a lot more sense. Since everyone is going ape-shit over the leaks again, maybe read this. This is the exact problem of taking written leaks and spoilers at face value. They lack context. Reading a couple of sentences about what happens isn’t the same thing as actually seeing it on screen. Even the official epsiode abstracts don’t do it justice. Or was I the only one who expected shit to go down in the north when I read that “Jon was facing a revolt?”. 

You are missing the events precedenting the incident, camera-work, facial expressions, music scores, background reactions, etc. All the things important to conveying information and meaning in a visual and continual medium as television. It’s way to easy to read something into it and intepret them according to your own biases, wishes or fears. The spread of spoilers and leaks on the internet is nothing but a global game of telephone / chinese whisper’s. Whatever truth is in them is buried under a mountain of other peoples thoughts, speculations and (miss)-interpretations. The more people talk about it, the more false information is out there. And as stated above, even the things that are factually correct, can be portrayed in a misleading light. 

So basically Jon is willing to kneel for Danys help, but after seeing the white walkers with her own eyes she offers to do so anyway? That’s something that would make sense for both characters. I can accept that. Jon being ready to give up northern independece for her asisstance, with her assuring him that there is no need to do that. I could see Dany pressing her claim anyway, but that would actually be a good character moment for her. 

Jon doesn’t pledge himself to Dany in the Dragonpit and gives the North to her, but simply sides with her on the Iron Throne over Cersei ruling the (remaining) kingdoms? That makes sense as well. As King in the North he would be expected to choose between supporting one of the two candidates. Favouring Dany is not the same thing as kneeling to her. She clearly is the better choice (even if I’m starting to believe that Jonny will end up on the westerosi throne in his own right). I have no problem with that. 

They way you put it nony, I could see this happening and it wouldn’t completely destroy Jons character, or Danys. It would be mostly consistent with their characterization so far and wouldn’t completely go against the goals and motivations established for them this season. Thanks for sending me this. 

I do stand by my opinion that Jon shouldn’t feel too heartbroken over Dany losing a dragon while saving him from a suicide mission SHE SENT HIM ON. A bit of sympathy, sure, but to the point where it makes up for her previous misssteps and denying him aid in the first place? After both he and (assumingly) Melissandre and Tyrion try to convince her the threat is real? It also strikes me as implausible that Dany wouldn’t believe Jon when he is right in front of her, giving his testimony, but any kind of message from Bran will completely change her mind? That’s what will convince her to take her dragons north and help them? Seriously? Well, D&D aren’t known for their consistent characterizations so, yeah, possible. Doesn’t make enough sense for me, but probably makes enough sense for them. 

I do also stand by my opinion that Jon has absolutely no real reason to go to the dragonpit anyway and that meeting with mad queen lannister in a locale of her own choosing, in the middle of wildfire-infested kings landing is a stupid as hell idea, that both Tyrion and Sansa should warn them about. They should really know that Cersei cannot be trusted. Also Cerseis little sheme of promising and then withholding any help makes no sense as well - as a viable threat to our heroes - but I could accept that as on par with the shitty writing D&D have done before. 

Btw, I am going to take a back-seat in discussing the leaks from now on. It was fun before the season-premiere, given that it was all we could work with, but now I would much rather spend my time analyzing and talking about the actual canon-footage. I still have so many scenes from the first two episodes I want to dissect and it seems more meaningful to me to concentrate on this. I am honestly so exhausted that every discussion and analysis of actual canon-material is overshadowed and judged or dismissed by their consistency with possible future events as described in leaks, which’s ultimate accuracy we will only be able to judge at the end of the season. I will speculate on the shows direction based on what the show has given us so far. I am tired of people granting the leaks more significance than the actual show so far. Seriously, if I have one more anon telling me “You’re analysis is bullshit because in tha leeks (｀Д´) this thing happens in episode xy “ I might just scream. 

I will be talking about the leaks every now and then, but I will withdraw from most general discussions. I will not focus on them. I still have some anons about it in my inbox and maybe I’ll write a combined answer to them, but chances are I will neither find the time nor the energy to do so. Send me an ask if you think I’d be interested to talk about it, or if you want to hear my opinion, but I won’t promise to do so. Sry, but I really hope you understand where I’m coming from.

Putting this in the jonsa tag, because people over there are freaking out once again and maybe this will ease their minds. I don’t usually like to put jonsa-unrelated content in the tag, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Hope you guys understand. Jonsa is still possible and while s7 will be a rough time for us, it has done nothing but continuing the subtle foreshadowing of season 6. I will not change my mind about jonsa becoming endgame because of tha leeks, I will make up my mind by the way canon proceeds from now on. If they really butcher Jons character I might leave the canon-side of the ship, but not the fanon one. We have one of the best fandoms with the one of the best ships I ever was part of / rooted for and I will not let canon take that away from me. Bryke has been trying for almost ten years to destroy my conviction in zutara, without any success. I will simply keep shipping them as if season 7 (and maybe season 8) never happened, but thus far nothing in the show has given me a reason to do that. Canon material > leaks on the internet.

[occupyvenus]

There is one more thing I have to get off my chest about the season 7 leaks. Since some of this seems to be confirmed, this is mostly me prematurely bitching about D&D’s stupid, stupid writing.

Spoilers, leaks and some cursing under the cut. You’ve been warned.

If I got it right this is how the wight hunt - dragonpit - boatbang events go down:

1. Dany doesn’t believe them about the Army of the Dead 2. Jon decides to catch a wight to prove it to her 3. Bran has a vision of them getting in trouble and somehow communicates that to Dany 4. Dany flys north to help them 5. Jon gets separated from the group and almost dies 6. Dany finds him and brings him back to Castle Black 7. Dany, Jon and some others leave for KL to show the wight to Cersei 8. They parley with Cersei in the Dragonpit 9. Jon vocally pledges himself to Dany there  10. Cersei promises to help, but won’t really do it 11. Jon and Dany go back north and bang on a boat 

There are so many things I don’t understand about the wight hunt, the whole drgaon pit scenario, Jon kneeling, Cersei’s little scheme, etc but if there is one thing I really don’t get it’s this:

Why would they ship a severly injured (”they find him half-dead”) Jon to King’s Landing ????  You know, if I were a maester at Castle Black and had a badly injured northern king lying around, I wouldn’t give them the green light to take him on a long-ass journey because he will recover before they reach KL

I would probably tell them to bring him back to his home, to Winterfell, so he can get back his strength there. That would just makes sense, you know, since they are pretty close to it. And if Dany insists he has to come with them, sorry, but what a dick move? Seriously, the dude almost died, you’re a couple of weeks away from his home and you drag him along on a months long journey instead, for no reason at all. If he’s the one who insists, tell him to stop being a freaking idiot, tell him “we have the wight, we don’t need you to come, just go home and rest for a bit. We’re friends, we’re allies, let us take care of this. You just nearly died, get some sleep. We got this.” 

They don’t need Jon to go back to KL with them. They don’t need him AT ALL. Seriously, why does he have to be there to show off the wight ??? What - Cersei won’t believe it is real if Jon isn’t there ????? Why doesn’t Dany go back there on her own with some instructions from Jon and Davos or some trustworthy lord as a northern representative??? Just tell Cersei the kitn stayed in the north to prepare for the war, if she wants to know why he isn’t with them. Have Davos give one of his motivational speeches “The king is in the north, getting ready to fight the real enemy. Our real enemy. North is where we all need to go, if we want to survive “ or something like that ...

The wight is the important part of this stupid useless parley with Cersei, Jon’s presence doesn’t matter. Btw, wasn’t the original reason for the wight hunt to get Dany on board with this army of the dead issue ??? I guess it would be nice to get Cersei to help as well but what does she really bring to the table? A couple thousand lannister soldiers (can’t be that many after Dany’s dragons fried her army) and maybe Eurons fleet . Yeah, that will make aaaaaall the difference. Her master scheme to promise and later withhold her assistance will have such a big impact - Wow Cersei, you showed them! You showed them good, girl!

They won’t know what to do since it isn’t like Dany is the one with the massive army, the dragonglass and the dragons. Wasn’t the whole point to prove the white walker’s existence to her? Apparently some telepathic raven message from Bran was enough to change her mind. Or does he just send a normal raven? But why would she believe that, if she didn’t believe Jon when he was right in front of her. Btw Tyrion was ready to somewhat believe Lord Commander Mormont about “dead men rising” back in season 2, so why would he be so sceptical off the whole thing now? Jons and Tyrions word wasn’t enough to convince Dany, but any kind of message from Bran is? Seems like they didn’t need to go on a suicide wight hunting mission after all. Even if they need Cersei for some reason, even if all of this is about persuading her to aid them, they don’t need Jon in KL to convince her to help! They simply don’t. They have the fucking wight. That’s all the prove they need.

It almost feels as if they are dragging Jon across the entire continent, so he can “vocally pledge to Dany in the dragon pit” and bang her when they go back north the very next episode - if not the very same episode. You can feel about that however you like but I only have one question: Why not have them do all that in Castle Black ??? Seriously, Jon consoles her about Viserions death, they have all these “we’re all going to die in this war” conversations and have sex before Dany leaves for KL. Having Jon kneel to Dany (okay, not a fan but if it happens, it happens) in a place with high personal significance for him, a place representing the looming threat of the white walkers, wouldn’t be to bad either. The season ends with Dany’s fleet/army making it’s way back north while Jon sees the wall crashing down on his way back down to Winterfell. We can all be - oh, shit will Jon get away? Will Dany make it in time ???

The whole dragon pit + boatbang incident requires so many leaps in logic, absurd decisions and completely unnecessary actions. It’s inconsistent with previously established plot points, it forces the characters to needlessy take high risks and makes them jump all over the place in a way too short period of time. It just pisses me of that D&D would agree to such a convoluted plot, interruptung the natural flow of the narrative because for some reason they had to have that in there and couldn’t come up with a more logical way to have all these events unfold. 

Rant over. Dani out.

[occupyvenus]

Are you really excited for this season? Because I am really torn. The leaks seem to be true, well at least like 80 to 90 percent and most of the stuff just makes me cringe.

Hi anon!

Right now, I AM! The trailers were so amazing how could I not get hyped? 

I mean look at this:

Jon fucking slamming Creepyfinger against a wall in the WF crypts.

Sansa walking away from Jon (I’m 98% certain it’s him) 

This shot of Jon alone - I’m soooo grateful for the kingly-fur-waistline

Bran is back in Winterfell, Tyrion looks fucking worried all the time, the D is on screen when Davos says “Who’s sceleton sits on the Iron Throne” and when Jon says “the common enemy”. My fucking Queen Sansa Stark reciting some stark-family-unity poetry. 

The trailers were 100% pro-stark, Jon/Sansa/LF lovetriangle-ish (did you notice that they were the only ones talking in the second trailer???) goodness and they got me so excited for what season 7 could be. Maybe it’s pointless to say, but GoT has so much potential. Trailers shouldn’t spoil any major events, true, but they do set the tone for the coming season. 

But I know what you mean, 99% of what happens in the leaks is complete bullshit and I had already made my peace with a shitty season. But:

Tha leeks seem to be true.  That doesn’t mean they are. 

IF the leaks are completely (or only ~80%) true s7 is the absolute narrative lowpoint of the entire series. Okay, nothing could be worse than Dorne, but at least it wasn’t the “main story”. Nothing substantial happens to lead us towards the shows ultimate conclusion. Aryas and Brans story lines are so boring and inconsequential. Bran spends the entire season figuring out who Jons dad is? Seriously, that’s pretty obvious and Bran is a smart boy. Also he’s the most powerful character right now (he is - despite your opinion on the matter) and he doesn’t further the plot at all. The whole dragonpit scenario is so dumb - so very very very dumb. It reads like D*ny stan masturbation porn through and through. (The whole show was positively biased towards her until now, but I belong to the strong believers of the D turning into an antagonist/villain in the end.)

Would HBO really ruin it’s number one franchise in the penultimate season? The leaks are so awful and ridiculous, that I have a hard time believing D&D would actually go threw with that. I already talked so much about all the things that don’t make any sense, just look through my got leaks and got speculation tags. 

Maybe D&D just squeezed as much “confirm the leaks”-material as possible in the trailers to fuck with the audience? We all know how they feel about leaks and spoilers. Maybe they are responsible for the leaks themselves?  Maybe the leaks only got a few things right and left major plot points out? Btw, lads, the guy responsible for the leaks, said that Ramsay would nearly beat Jon to death in s6. Sooo, I’m not sure just how accurate his information is. 

Also, such a major leak seems rather unlikely for such a huge production. They take so many precautions and safety measures to prevent exactly that from happening. Maybe one characters or episodes plot, but more or less everything? I don’t buy it. Not for a second. 

Last, but not least @bisansastarks (btw sry to drag you into another leaks-discussion) infected me with her confidence that the leaks are mostly bullshit or at least missing some very important plot points.

So I decided not to take them to serious and sulk in a corner, but to look foward to a potentially amazing, mind-blowing season. Life’s just easier that way. If I am disappointed I can at least take comfort in the fact that I have better taste than the creators of a multi-million dollar franchise. 

Plus look at this: 

We’ll get a stark family reunion with 99% certainty. How could I not be excited? 

[occupyvenus]

I dont think I really can enjoy the season if the leaks are true, and it seems they are. Like another season of Jon getting rescued, this time by a dany who gets hyped up by D&D as the special snowflake. And she even gets Jon at the end as her new "consort" or whatever. Well it seems like she likes him but if he pledges himself to her (I hope at least not openly on the dragonpit, its horrible), I am going to be pissed. And jon is legimate, dont want him to kneel.

You know, if the leaks are true I’m not going to enjoy the season either. Except for the WF plot probably, because I’m so excited to see my babies together again and I can’t wait for LF to finally die. 

But just because tha leeks™ seem to be true, doesn’t mean that they are. Can we please stop acting like the season already aired? D&D know about them and they are obviously playing with us. They keep releasing footage related to the leaks and the only reason I see for them shoving Arya with LF’s dagger right into our faces is to fuck with us. They literally had no reason to include it in her costume for the EW photoshoots or have Maisie lift her arm to make sure we get a good look at it except for “Ha, you idiots 100% believed in those stupid leaks. You even thought we “confirmed” them! Bloody idiots! Got ya!” If you don’t think that’s at least super suspicious, you really are a bloody idiot. 

I’ll put the rest under a cut since you named the one who shall not be named, people still don’t get how tumblr works (guys, look for or follow #dae* and nothing tagged anti-dae* or containing her name will show up. Only things that are actually tagged #dae*. Hashtag(#) is your friend, show it some love by using it) and I don’t want to offend some peoples sensibilities. This isn’t going to be D-friendly, don’t like don’t read.

I agree with you, Jon’s portrayel in the leaks is fucking atrocious. He’s always been my favourite character and I don’t want him to be reduced to the D’s “trophy wife”. The leaks are mostly ridiculous anyway, but in that specific instance they really read like bad D*ny-stan j0nerys fanfiction. 

I am 75% sure that Jon and the D will hook up one way of the other. For one simple reason: I don’t think that D&D would pass up the chance to have a sex scene with Kit and Emilia. I just don’t think it would be anything like described in the leaks. 

The whole wight hunt - dragonpit - boatbang sequence is so so so stupid. It requires so many leaps in logic, absurd decisions and completely unnecessary actions. It’s inconsistent with previously established plot points, it forces the characters to needlessy take high risks and makes them jump all over the place in a way too short period of time. If Jon is supposed to kneel and fall for the D there are way more logical ways to let those events unfold. 

Jon pledging himself to the D because she’s just so awesome™ and he’s so smitten with her makes absolutely no sense. I said it before, the only reason for Jon kneeling is if the D absolutely refuses to help them against the Others if he doesn’t. I could actually see that happening, but it wouldn’t exactly make the D look good, nor would it be the start of some epic romance. As king, Jon has a duty to the north and he is nothing, if not dutiful. All the people who think he will stop caring about his home, his people and his family once the D enters the picture don’t understand his character at all and are obviously ready to shit all over him so their fav gets the hottest guy on the show. There, I said it. 

He has no reason to be on board with the targ-restoration, other than plain survival (again, that would be a dick move). What, the D sends him on a completely unnecessary - Tyrion already sort of believes in the WWs and even in the leaks(!) a message from Bran is enough ot change her mind about it-  suicide wight hunt mission, fries his best friends family (fuck Randyll, but what about Sam’s mom, his sisters and brother?) and Jon will be all “You are the rightful ruler of the Seven Kingdoms and I love you now!” ?! It doesn’t make any sense. 

I’m a strong believer in dark!d*ny and grrm himself has strongly implied that she will go bad. The D was only hyped as a perfect special snowflake so her turning into an antagonist in the final seasons will be shocking to the audience. 

Until proven otherwise, by the actual episodes once they’ve aired, I’m going to assume the leaks are mostly bullshit. D&D are only “confirming” them, so we all will be surprised by the real, actual storyline. I don’t get why HBO would ruin it’s number one franchise in the penultimate season like that and I don’t think grrm would let them butcher a story he’s been working on for +20 years. At least, not the final conclusions and not more than they already have.

[occupyvenus]

is the boatbang gonna happen this season or the next?

Allegedly it will be this season finale. 

[occupyvenus]

There are many, many things about the season 7 that leaks that bother me: 

The boatbang, j0nerys portrayed as a pure romance, the dumb dragonpit meeting with mad queen cersei, bran and sam needing all season to figure out who jonnys dad is, the dumb wight hunt, the D burning people alive and everyone being a-okay with it, LF using a stupid letter to set the stark sisters agianst each other, jon giving up the north for the D, etc, etc, ... 

All of this bothers me and would seriously diminish my pleasure in watching the show... if they do happen as described in the leaks. There are ways these things could happen, that I would be fine with. They bother me, they annoy me, some of them make a bit angry, but mostly I will be disappointed. 

BUT 

IF RHAEGAR ACTUALLY FUCKING ANNULLED HIS MARRIAGE TO ELIA (I would be somewhat, sort of, kinda, okay with him taking Lyanna as his second wife, still a fucking dick move, but I would let it slide ....) 

AND CALLED HIS SON WITH LYANNA “AEGON”  WHEN HE ALREADY HAD A SON CALLED “AEGON” (because Lyanna wouldn’t make that decision on her own and his son Aegon was very much alive when he left the tower of joy)

THE SHOW IS DEAD TO ME. 

DEAD. DEAD. DEAD.

I MEAN IT.