I came to the conclusion lately that watching obsessively Pirates of the Caribbean as a kid left me with a permanent damage that manifests itself as not being able to act normal when there are pirates and pirate music in podcasts
And the second conclusion I came to is that I definitely need to find more pirates podcasts
So I was inspired by a post by @kingmakerpod about a timeline for audio drama podcasts. Now this is not every single podcast, but this is as many as I know about. Please let me know if there are more to add to this timeline
The Ballad of Anne and Mary - lesbian pirate podcast based on true stories. Excellent. Loved it. Great singing, sea shanties, cast is fabulous - the lot. Some bits of it were stressful and I could have done with a trigger warning, but as nothing came of it, I guess it’s ok.
They’ve given it a good ending, I’ll tell you right now.
I didn’t realize until today how deep the emotional scars are for all the times we, the lesbians of Gen X and before, were given the shit ending. The only ending we were allowed to have on TV or film or anything - the lesbians never rode off into the sunset. NEVER. Someone died, or left, or some other awful thing would put an end to it. And I’m really, really, slow because it took me hours mulling this over to realize that that’s my story too. It isn’t just Gabby losing Xena, or Will losing Tara, it’s me losing my wife too. It became personal and I just hadn’t added it up.
If you read about these pirate queens, you’ll see they got a shit ending, according to the people writing their history. I am so grateful that the people who put this podcast (whole ass production) together consciously chose to give them a good ending. I had no idea how much I needed that.
B is for @longcatmedia's The Ballad of Anne & Mary!
Based on the lives of pirates Anne Bonny and Mary Read, and set in 1721, when they are both imprisoned. We meet journalist Nathaniel Mist, who decides to take advantage of the two pirates' infamy, and arranges to visit them in prison.
I have made some edits and new additions to the timeline thanks to the suggestions by people in the notes. I’d like to thank @dihalectics, @chemicallywrit, @224bbaker, @roguemaker, @measureyourlifeincake @geminicollisionworks, @monstrousagonies, @sinkholepodcast, and once again @kingmakerpod for inspiring the idea.
Feel free to let me know others to add on to the timeline, I’m really enjoying making this and learning about other podcasts!
It may not be over, but 2023 has already been a brilliant year for our shows! We introduced Magenta Presents to the roster, and saw significant growth across the board. Thank you Fable and Folly for their hard work and support, and thank you all for listening!
Here’s a guide for introductory Medieval texts and informational resources ordered from most newbie friendly to complex. Guidebooks and encyclopedias are listed last.
All PDFs link to my Google drive and can be found on my blog. This post will be updated as needed.
Pre-Existing Resources
Hi-Lo Arthuriana
♡ Loathly Lady Master Post ♡
Medieval Literature by Language
Retellings by Date
Films by Date
TV Shows by Date
Documentaries by Date
Arthurian Preservation Project
The Camelot Project
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Medieval Literature
Page (No Knowledge Required)
The Vulgate Cycle | Navigation Guide | Vulgate Reader
Culhwch and Olwen
The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnelle
The Marriage of Sir Gawain
Sir Gawain and The Green Knight
The Welsh Triads
Le Morte d'Arthur by Sir Thomas Malory
Squire (Base Knowledge Recommended)
The Mabinogion
Four Arthurian Romances by Chrétien de Troyes
King Artus | scan by @jewishlancelot
Morien
Knight (Extensive Knowledge Recommended)
The History of The King's of Britain by Geoffrey of Monmouth
Alliterative Morte
Here Be Dragons (Weird or Arthurian Adjacent)
The Crop-Eared Dog
Perceforest | A Perceforest Reader | PDF courtesy of @sickfreaksirkay
Wigalois | Vidvilt
Guingamor, Lanval, Tyolet, & Bisclarevet by Marie of France
The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
Grail Quest
Peredur (The Mabinogion)
The Story of the Grail + 4 Continuations by Chrétien de Troyes
Parzival by Wolfram von Eschenbach
The Crown by Heinrich von dem Türlin (Diu Crône)
The High Book of The Grail (Perlesvaus)
The History of The Holy Grail (Vulgate)
The Quest for The Holy Grail Part I (Post-Vulgate)
The Quest for The Holy Grail Part II (Post-Vulgate)
Merlin and The Grail by Robert de Boron
The Legend of The Grail | PDF courtesy of @sickfreaksirkay
Lancelot Texts
Knight of The Cart by Chretien de Troyes
Lanzelet by Ulrich von Zatzikhoven
Spanish Lancelot Ballads
Gawain Texts
Sir Gawain and The Green Knight
The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnelle
The Marriage of Sir Gawain
Sir Gawain and The Lady of Lys
The Knight of The Two Swords
The Turk and Sir Gawain
Perilous Graveyard | scan by @jewishlancelot
Tristan/Isolde Texts
Béroul & Les Folies
Prose Tristan (The Camelot Project)
Tristan and The Round Table (La Tavola Ritonda) | Italian Name Guide
The Romance of Tristan
Tristan and Iseult by Gottfried von Strassburg
Byelorussian Tristan
Educational/Informational Resources
Encyclopedias & Handbooks
Warriors of Arthur by John Matthews, Bob Stewart, & Richard Hook
The Arthurian Companion by Phyllis Ann Karr
The New Arthurian Encyclopedia by Norris J. Lacy
The Arthurian Handbook by Norris J. Lacy & Geoffrey Ashe
The Arthurian Name Dictionary by Christopher W. Bruce
Essays & Guides
A Companion to Chrétien de Troyes edited by Joan Tasker & Norris J. Lacy
A Companion to Malory edited by Elizabeth Archibald
A Companion to The Lancelot-Grail Cycle edited by Carol Dover
Arthur in Welsh Medieval Literature by O. J. Padel
Diu Crône and The Medieval Arthurian Cycle by Neil Thomas
Wirnt von Gravenberg's Wigalois: Intertextuality & Interpretation by Neil Thomas
The Legend of Sir Lancelot du Lac by Jessie Weston
Subway, Caityln Siehl // I Bet on Losing Dogs, Mitski // The Bird, Denise Levertov // Untitled (You Construct Intricate Rituals), Barbara Kruger // The Hours, Michael Cunningham // The Triumph of Achilles, Louise Glück // Beautiful Short Loser, Ocean Vuong // The Beauty of the Husband, Anne Carson // Béloved, Yves Olade // Lies About Sea Creatures, Ada Limón // Specific Affliction, @ agooduniverse // Ballad of Fred Noonan, Antje Duvekot // Fast Car, Tracy Chapman // The Affliction, Marie Howe // Future Home of the Living God, Louise Erdrich
Here I am with one of my uneven little phone recordings. My Drowning Ballad.
Lyrics:
On a fated voyage I shipped off
& here is my final song
The lives of men so sadly lost
A tale of all gone wrong
A cursed ship the old ones would always say
Misfortune in her planks imbued
But we were not so easily swayed
Signed on in the highest mood
Set out upon the sea to roam
And I will never go back home
The fog rolled in across the pier
Wreathing mists around our mast
We boarded her with all our gear
& then we shoved off fast
Our good ship groans as she’s set free
Check the sails & check the lines
We sail out to the endless sea
& the dock shrinks behind.
chorus
In a briny wind the rigging stirs
Shadows run across the deck
Mother Carey’s messenger
Passing wings outstretched
But what did we care of such things?
Folk tales told to us as babes
It’s unfounded fear superstition brings
Our truth is wind and waves
chorus
But bad luck still upon us falls
Spoiled food & foul disease
From broken pumps & angry squalls
To flat winds and dead seas
We argue all amongst ourselves
Looking for someone to blame
The culprit is the ship itself
A curse within a name
chorus
On our logbook her old name stands
Our careless captain left it there
Bad luck will plague all our plans
I fear how we will fare
We learned she was once called Anne Marie
A name Neptune would not forget
Writ in his Ledger of the Deep
The wrath of god upset
chorus
For all the coins we cast to sea
& wine libations that we poured
The four winds we could not appease
Our fate won’t be ignored
One fearful night the wind picked up
Rain pelting down upon our heads
Thunder rolled & lightning struck
Sea churned with the dead
chorus
It send us to the ragged rocks
Treacherous teeth of blackened stone
Our sorry hull they found and struck
& all we men were thrown
The ship turned with a dangerous list
Water frothing cross our deck
Will we men be missed
Drowned down among our wreck?
chorus
The petrel warned of storms to come
The shrinking tide left of our days
A pity I should go so young
Beneath the black glass waves
The water takes all of me
Fills my lungs & fills them deep
Replace me with the rising sea
The ocean for to keep
It's fairly well known that these lines from the bridge of 'Free as a Bird' are adapted from the lyric of 'Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)', written & produced by Shadow Morton and performed by the Shangri-Las. Where the Beatles, in lyrics begun but not completed by John, call up shared memories, Mary Weiss sang of "the boy that I once knew". That John reused these lines to voice his own preoccupation with an unresolved past adds much tenderness to 'Free as a Bird'. Being a Shangs fan, there are a couple of other connections that I just wanted to write about.
The Shangs looking dangerous.
Today
I love you more than yesterday
'I Know (I Know)' from Mind Games (1973).
Although the melodies are completely different, the Shangri-Las song 'Love You More Than Yesterday' seems to find an echo in the most emotive lines in the bridge of John Lennon's 'I Know (I Know)'. The song was a B-side to their 1966 spoken-word ballad 'Past, Present & Future' (which, incidentally, took Beethoven's 'Moonlight Sonata' as its theme, like the Beatles' song 'Because' after it). Quite rightly the nod to 'Yesterday' is what strikes us most, but I'm not at all sure that the similarity to the Shangri-Las title is pure coincidence. We saw in Get Back how easily song titles and lyrics were used by John and Paul in the current of their talk.
It proved difficult to find John speaking about the Shangri-Las, despite the Beatles' enjoyment of records by other girl groups like the Shirelles, and they're not among the artists on John's famous 40-disc mobile juke box that he brought when the Beatles went out on tour. (Only one woman, Fontella Bass, appears among the discs. The juke box doesn't even include 'Angel Baby' by Rosie and the Originals, whose fresh, unrefined first-love sentimentality appealed to him so much he covered it.) It's a little easier to find something from Paul on the subject however.
Mary and Betty Weiss from the Shangri-Las, photographed by Jini Dellaccio in 1966 (left: screenshot by @ohhellno on tumblr*; right, my screenshot, both from the documentary Her Aim is True, about the photographer).
Of course he calls out "Shangri-Las versus The Village People!" at the beginning of 'Mr. H. Atom'. But glorious as that is, perhaps more informative are the occasions where Paul has spoken of his enjoyment of the Shangri-Las' style, and the way he appreciated Linda's voice in this mode.
If she’s a singer, she’s very much a Shangri-Las type singer; I don’t think any of them could get into opera, but I prefer them to opera. Linda wouldn’t put herself up as a great vocalist, but she’s got a great style. I think anyway.
I've always maintained that she has a kind of Shangri-Las type of appeal.
'Can Paul McCartney Get Back?' Rolling Stone, June 1989
When you know how warmly Paul regarded their style, you can't miss the similarity of Linda's spoken intro and closing of 'Wide Prairie' ("I was in Paris, waiting for a flight..."), answered by Paul, to the chat in Shangri-Las songs like 'Give Him a Great Big Kiss', where the other girls ask Mary Weiss whether her guy is tall ("Well, I gotta look up!") or if he's a good dancer.
Did they meet?
On the 20th September 1964, the Shangri-Las performed on the same bill as the Beatles, at a benefit concert in New York for a cerebral palsy charity. Mary Weiss explained that Mary Ann Ganser was jostled backstage as one of the Beatles sought them out:
“She turned around and it was Ringo. So that was some contact, anyway. I almost wanted her to take his drumsticks.”
'Weiss Leads Again', the New York Sun, September 2007.
This seems to be the only documented contact between the groups, although if you know of others, or further instances where John or Paul spoke about the Shangs, I'd love to hear about them. The music that the Beatles listened to has been written about extensively, and there's almost a canon of influences that's become pretty standard. Given their admiration of their performance, and seemingly in John's case, of Shadow Morton's words**, I hope for some recognition of both Lennon and McCartney's creative responses to the Shangri-Las.
(* Many thanks to @ohhellno for letting me use this great screenshot.)
(** The interest was of course mutual, as Morton produced the Beattle-ettes single 'Only Seventeen', supposedly a response to the Beatles from the girl's perspective, with hand claps and cries of "Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!" The single, by an untraced group, was released in 1964. In summer the same year his first songwriting hit, 'Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)' was the breakout success for the Shangri-Las. It was racing up the Billboard Hot 100 as the Beatles toured the States in the second half of August. By the time they had a day off in Key West, on the tenth of September, it had reached the top ten, one place below 'A Hard Day's Night'. If John or Paul tuned to a pop radio station, they'd have heard it. The song peaked at number five.)
from the Billboard Hot 100, week ending 12th September, 1964.
Collected here in part 1 because tumblr has a limit of 100 links per post of my alphabetical list are the fiction podcasts from A-M I've recommended so far for my random podcast recommendations! Part 2 is here
A
A Ninth World Journal
Afflicted
Aishi Online
Alba Salix
Among the Stars and Bones
Apollyon
Arden
ars PARADOXICA
B
Back Again, Back Again
The Ballad of Anne & Mary
The Beacon
Believer
Black Friday
Breaker Whiskey
The Bright Sessions
C
CARAVAN
Chaika
Chain of Being
Civilized
Coexistence
Come On In, The Water's Fine
Copperheart
Counterbalance
D
Death by Dying
Desert Skies
Desperado
Diary of a Space Archivist
Dining in the Void
Directive
Do You Copy
Dos: After You
Down
E
The Earth Collective
Elaine’s Cooking for the Soul
Electromancy
The End of Time and Other Bothers
Ethics Town
Exoplanetary
Everything is Alive
F
Falling Forward
Fan Wars: The Empire Claps Back
The Far Meridian
Fireside Folktales
Folxlore
Forgive Me!
G
Gay Future
Georgie Romero Is Done For
Girl in Space
The Goblet Wire
Gone
Great & Terrible
Greater Boston
Greenhouse
H
Hallway to Nowhere
Hand in Glove
Harlem Queen
Hauntingly Humdrum
Hello From the Hallowoods
Hi Nay
Hit the Bricks
Human Error
I
Immunities
InCo
Inhale
Inn Between
In Transit
J
Janus Descending
Jar of Rebuke
Joy to the World
Jupiter Saloon
K
Kalila Stormfire's Economical Magick Services
Kane and Feels
Keep It Steady
The Kingmaker Histories
L
The Last Echoes
Less is Morgue
Liars & Leeches
Life On Pause
Light Hearts
LIMBO
Lost Terminal
Love and Luck
M
Margaret's Garden
Margaritas & Donuts
The McIlwraith Statements
Me and AU
Mercury: A Broadcast of Hope
Meteor City
Middle:Below
Moonbase Theta, Out