#the absolute insane double standard when it comes to not-even-canonically-gay ships

[amarriageoftrueminds]

So were the official MCU writers (of What If and Hawkeye) being deluded stucky shippers when they took Bucky's story with Steve and put Peggy in Bucky's place and called Steve and Bucky's story a Romance? Not just once but three times?

👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼

It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.

[hopefulobjectmiracle]

Thanks for breaking it down, I do get why people are hesitant to accept a BrittanaKlaine friendship, it still really throws me off when I see more people campaigning for a friendship like Sebklaine or Sebrittana (yes, I have seen the latter). I just wish there wasn’t so much hate between the two fandoms, people are going to prefer one or even dislike the other which is okay but the vitriol hate and intense ship wars only exists between the two queer couples, I never see people arguing over Finchel vs Samcedes, Finchel vs Klaine etc like this. It’s really sad. Glad that you’re rooting for the friendship though!

okay, i know that i'm negatively biased against sebastian in general but good god - i did not need to know that 'sebrittana' was a thing...but now that you mention it, i have seen kurtbastian fans make terrible manips of kurtbastian/brittana double dates...even though, y'know, both santana and kurt hate sebastian. obviously i hardcore agree with you that friendships like sebklaine or sebrittana or anything that involves sebastian with any of the ND are all crazy, but hey, if that's what people want to do with their fandom energy, who am i to knock 'em?

anyway, i'm with you 100%. you're right that people never pit the straight couples against each other. in fact...the straight couples get away with so much shit compared to the queer ones, especially when it comes to which couples are considered ‘toxic.’ i find it incredibly annoying that klaine is the ship most often called toxic in the glee fandom, despite finchel and quick being objectively worse - it just goes to show that queer characters and relationships are held up to higher standards, both because queerness was stigmatized for so long and people in a slow-changing world only wanted to see ‘good’ gay role models on their television, and because these ships served as the sole bit of representation that some LGBT kids had back then. 

both of the aforementioned conditions pushed klaine & brittana to be perfect, and there was a lot of outrage whenever they weren’t. and then it slowly built up until people were all-out fighting over whichever one was better representation....ignoring the fact that each individual character/ ship was meant to represent a different type of queer person. what the fandom refuses to acknowledge, even in the year 2022, is that neither of those two is ‘better’ - they were both groundbreaking in different ways and they appeal to different demographics. 

and to quote professor hulk...i see this as an absolute win!!! because klaine & brittana’s stories being so different means that a wider variety of people can come to glee and find themselves represented on this silly gay show. i mean, how common is it, even now, for a show to have one fully developed gay couple, let alone two? how common is it for shows to have four major queer characters, all with their own stories to relate to? and people are still giving each other shit over a petty ship war? it’s just insane to me. 

so...yeah, i’d say i’m right there with you in terms of wishing that the two fandoms didn’t hate each other. i mean, it’s absolutely possible that individual klaine & brittana fans can be friends - a good chunk of my favorite people in this fandom are brittana stans and i love them all dearly, but i think the chances of the fandoms as a whole putting their differences are unfortunately very low. 

(but never zero!)

anyway, fandom BS aside, i’m always rooting for their friendship!! i believe in queer solidarity, but even outside of that i think that brittana and klaine would have such a fun dynamic as a group 🥰 i would've honestly paid to see a double date, or any scene, really, with the four of them goofing off and being besties. and though we didn’t see this in canon, the image of them all hanging out and being cute lives rent free in my brain <3