#the Magnus protocol 23

[randoaccnt]

Episode 23 vibes

[iiinkos]

heart death cycling accident my ass i refuse to believe my boys are dead

also too many eyes??? tape recorder??? jon j jarchivist you are not dead

ALSO HALLWAY WIFE AND BASIRA !!!!

[teepussilakana]

tmagp 23 spoilers underneath cut

so uhhh what is up with trees/corals and GROWING APART from loved ones?

spunds like two relationships that failed (the doctors due to him being too focused on work and infidelity by his wife, and for alesis disagreement over having children with anthony)

there are differences of course. the doctor was scratched my mistake (or was he) and saw someone who he believes to be his wife who convinced him to stay and helped him come to terms with his destiny. this happened in a park or garden which was very co nected with his wife.

but alesis willingly sought to create a better self, but something went wrong. my running theory is that its due to a weak connection to the coral or perhaps due to slme chemicals in the aquarium made it non-viable as a "seed". either way she chose to do it to herself but the end result was not as planned.

ALSO i noticed that while there were only comments at the very end (on the second to last post) the liked kept rising as she got closer to it. someone followed the experiment. but no comments. which begs the question of where she got the tips and tricks to perform the surgery? perhaps it was the same way that RedCanary was hounded to get the box back to the institute even when direct messages were not possible in the forum???

so many questions and i am sure we will have to wait a while before we receive answers to any of them.

[individual-fire]

What if Sam filling out all the response department paperwork (something that has been defunct for years) brings it back into being a thing? And since he's filled out the paperwork and is the only member, he is the defacto head of the department. What if the pmc is officially beholden to the response dept, meaning they would then work for Sam?

Random train of thought I had in the shower yesterday.

[lunarhorrors]

fucking hell. you guys really weren’t kidding about the magnus protocol episode 23. wtf.

[anoddrock]

“It just stood there holding this old tape recorder”

That episode huh

Reblogs appreciated

[bunchofbunniez]

@wazohoo (tagging you so you can see my rant and correct me where I’m wrong)

ok latest episode! Here’s my thoughts, rant, and theories!! Also I have lots of questions I’m super confused (sobbing noises) I’m going to probably edit this later once I’ve read the transcript (thanks audio struggles) this is just what I’ve understood/gathered from listening to it!

ok! Starting off with the paperwork, I think it’s interesting that San is still getting that considering how long it’s been, and we know it isn’t Alice doing it and now we know Lena doesn’t know what’s going with it either, so someone (something) else is going on there, it could possibly be Freddie (or one of the three voices inside the computer)

then there’s the case, this was an interesting one it’s something different from what we’ve previously heard (though there’s a case from archives it makes me think of I just need to go back through and figure out which one it was) but I’m thinking this was something to do with the stranger, her recreating herself with the intent of better but it came out wrong as heard in the last (deleted) post. I’m thinking that it could have something to do with the flesh or end considering what happened to her, but it mostly gives off stranger vibes.

the interactions with Gwen at the end were CRAZY!! Especially Alice knowing something’s up with the tape recorders like whaaa?!? Girl you see where Colin’s coming from now huh! that was a weird moment in general!!

ok I love how I could feel the Harlan Guthrie vibes coming through in the writing hat was cool af, that one line about a voice in your head that was so fun in so many ways!! also the fact that we might not get Jon and Martin however we got not just Basira but Helen too!!! THE Helen D. Stortion?!?!? I’m curious how Celia tied into everything and if she’s from the archives we know, or another version of it.. either way I cant wait for next episode! Please feel free to leave your thoughts plus theories in reblogs I would love to see what yall think I’m so super hooked on sharing thoughts!!!

[theanxiousghostartist]

TMAGP 23 SPOILERS

Theories and reactions

Pre Case (Sam and Lena chat):

Sam's filling out more Response Department forms. Why do I feel like he's going to kickstart his Becoming or a ritual with these forms 😭.

Lena's said other former employees had filled out forms like Sam. I wonder if they Became or fell victim to the Fears. Alice has said in the past that she's seen people die, perhaps the forms could have been related to that?

Theory: The Response Department acts similarly to the Archives in TMA: It provides a base ground for rituals. However, when someone fills out the paperwork and goes to explore the "rabbit hole" (Sam, my man, please stop filling out this paperwork 😭), it compells them, leading to them getting marked and/or Becoming.

I love Sam and Lena being neurodivergent together.

Case (Chester):

Alnewman86/Alesis Newman, finds a forum about "finding your peice" and proceeds to follow the instructions to place a coral inside them and grow a doppelganger of them (hoping they would have out of the best parts of them). This case reads very Stranger and Corruption to me. The idea of growing something inside you to feel loved and to get away from pain is basically what happened to Pretiss. The idea of doppelgangers and "better selves" is very Stranger - reminiscent, it also feels similar to what happened to Nikola, with her "father" (Gregor Orshinov) changing their former self (Joseph Grimaldi) into Nikola to be "better." Also, the idea that "something was wrong with their doppelganger" seems similar to Nikola, in the sense that Orshinov didn't expect her to rebel (and kill him because he was boring), Newman seems to have experienced similar to Orshinov.

Post- Case (Celia and Sam chat):

Sam found a Jonathan Sims and Martin Blackwood. However, they both died 20 years ago (a cycling accident and a heart problem) without ties to the Institute. I wonder if their deaths are somehow tied to their entities. Maybe Jon died in the cycling accident trying to learn new information. Maybe Martin's heart problem resulted in him dying alone or being alone before his death. Although it's sad to think about, I think their deaths will be relevant, but we need more information...

This seems like Celia didn't find them in paperwork and is providing him information from her memories of TMA-verse.

BASIRA???

Celia thinks she found Basira Hudson???? We might meet Basira??? Yippee!!!!

HELEN???????

Celia has a lead on Helen Richardson?!

(Helen is my favorite character from TMA, so I'm so so so excited!) :DDDD

Ok, theories once again:

I think Celia is relying on her memories to guide her information quest in this new universe. She's found Georgie and knows of Melonie, the two she was closest with, and followed in their cult; then Jon and Martin, the next two she spent the most time with; now, she's looking into Basira and Helen - although she didn't have much contact with Basira, we do know that she saw the connection between her and the previous four, so it's natural she would look into her. With Helen, we know she visited Melonie and Georgie often, so by extent, she would have had contact with Celia. Furthermore, Helen was the ONLY of those she's named thus far who acted actively as an Avatar, even when she was "helping." Helen would be a great lead on Avatars and learning how they work in this world. With the help of Sam, her research can get done quicker, and if she can show Gertrude some proof, maybe the three will work together?

Now Sam and Celia are going to talk to Basira and Helen! I wonder if they will meet Daisy with Basira since they were partners.

Post- Case (Alice and Gwen chat):

Gwen is under so much pressure at the moment- not only because of the trauma from the externals and Lena forcing her to step down, but pressure from herself (and probably her family, who helped her get the job) to do better, live up to her family name, ect, ect.

Alice trying to relate to Gwen by telling her about her mug from Luke that Sam broke was really cute.

Gwen's opened up to Alice! To be honest, I don't think Gwen would have opened up at all if Alice had not caught her crying. However, I think that Alice is the only person Gwen would open up to. She won't try with Sam again after the Bonzo- incident, Colin and Teddy are out of reach, Celia's new and they don't have an established relationship, and Lena is the woman she's blackmailed and doesn't outwardly care about her (while it does look like she cares about her employees, she doesn't show it openly). Alice is the only person at the office who is openly available and has a long- established connection with both Gwen and the OIAR. Thus, Gwen started telling her abour Ink5oul, [Error], and the assignments from Lena. Which leads to the two connecting over [Error] and their tape recorders. Both recognize they are in danger (along with the rest of the OIAR) and both understand that something needs to be done. I really hope these two team up in the near future to figure out how to defeat [Error].

Also, [Error] looks human but has more than 2 eyes? This definitely supporters the theory that they are some part of an Archivist! I'm very excited to see what they do in the future :D

[acodraisc]

I have finally caught up on the magnus protocol

[mariathechosen1]

[ceaseless-watchers-special-girl]

jonny when he can’t actually name a character alex newall

[ceaselesswatchersspecialboy]

[ash-tree-eyes]

“Jonathan Sims is pretty generic as names go.” Actually I think Sam googled Jonathan Sims and the first result that came up was a random horror writer, and Sam was just like “nah, can’t be this guy” and moved on

[individual-fire]

How many times do you think this person has done this "find you piece" thing? Like what if it's one entity that's been trying to get itself right for decades.

I mean, with a name like Newman, seems like she wasn't the original

[some-fantastic-kay]

Alice. Alice tell me what you know. Alice please.

[somecleverartname05]

What the most recent tmagp episode felt like: