#that's homophobia at it's finest tbh
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why the fuck do i have to cut fabric on the grainline. homophobia at its finest tbh
#nico screams#loveeee accidentally cuttng something the opposte direction and having to use double the fabric i planned on
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fob played i slept with someone and i WASNT in attendanceā¦.homophobia at its finest tbh
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Hi Kait.
Itās been a little while. I hope youāre doing well. <3
Iām always rooting for your success and happiness lol.
I feel bad and sheepish because I never wanna be that person who only ever pops by to like,,, dump a vent when Iām struggling.
I wish I had more fun or creative stuff I could share with you more often.
I think about trying to make you a gift of some sort a lot but I always chicken out. š
But tbh I think the reason I feel inclined to come here when Iām feeling bad is because when I am struggling,, thatās when I turn to thoughts of Saeyoung as a source of comfort. And your blog is the best outlet Iāve found to be able to express those feelings haha.
At any rateā¦
I wonder if you can relate to this experienceā¦?
When I was really sick, my mental health issues actually kinda felt betterā¦?
Itās not like they actually went away or anything.
Itās just that,,, I literally didnāt have the mental capacity to fixate on those things like I normally would. I was deadass too exhausted to indulge my anxious or depressed thoughts and let myself spiral lmao
But now that Iām slowly staring to feel better physically, those old patterns and thoughts and feelings have been creeping back in little by little too :))
(Super unfair if you ask me š bc I *am* still sick and in pain. Just slightly less so. And now I gotta deal with the mental illness on top of it all? Now my bones hurt AND my tummy hurts AND my silly little pathetic heart hurts. Homophobia at its finest, truly.)
And likeā¦ Iām trying really hard to claw my way out of this cute little pit of self-loathing Iāve found myself in.
Especially since I know now, better than ever, that itās completely pointlessā¦
The worldās gonna keep turning whether I hate myself or not. Itās just a matter of whether or not Iām choosing to make myself miserable in the process.
But,,, you know. Itās never that simple.
And. Itās kinda the ātrying hardā thatās been making it hurt tbh.
I canāt stop thinking about the ~injustice~ of how hard Ive tried my whole life to build a future for myself where I could finally feel ~stable and happy and loved~ like Iāve been craving my whole life or whatever. But the universe just keeps saying Sike! Over and over :ā)
I had to work so hard just to fuckin survive and keep myself alive my whole childhood.
I never thought Iād be able to go to college,, I didnāt even think it was on the table for me.
But I got lucky and got support and encouragement from my friends,, and somehow I managed to make it. And it meant so much to me. I felt so overjoyed and lucky to be able to be in a place where I didnāt have to worry about my safety all the time, or where I was going to sleep or get my next meal. And better yet,, somewhere where I could pursue my dreams and passions and get a little closer every day to a future I never thought Iād have. :āD
Buuuut then Covid hit, my mental health tanked, and I stopped being able to afford my tuition. And even though I was doing everything I could and DESPERATELY trying to figure things out,, it wasnāt enough. Bc nobody at the school would fuckin help me. And it was so frustrating and upsetting to know that, no matter how good of a student I was (I was a 4.0 student in STEM smh)
And no matter how genuine and passionate I was,,,
It didnāt make a difference. Because all they cared about was my money.
Like. Not to be dramatic. But that shit legit shattered my heart and crushed my soul. :ā)
Even so! I told myself,,, hey. Itās okay. You can turn this around. You just have to work harder! Push yourself even further! Youāre good at that. Youāve done it before. You just need to get a job and save up so you can go back.
So I got my silly lil minimum wage pet store job.
And goddammit, I was great at that too.
I was the best damn employee at my store, if not the whole company š bc Iām SMART AND PASSIONATE ABOUT LEARNING AND HELPING ANIMALS AND CREATING BETTER LIVES FOR THEM. UGH. š¤
Worked my tits off for a year and a half. Saved up as much as I could. Got over halfway to my goal that would allow me to finally move away from my home state that Iāve always hated. Go back to school. And really and truly get a shiny new ~fresh start~
But then the universe was like, HA bitch you thought!
You actually worked *too* hard this time and now your body is broken.
Soā¦ all that money you just saved upā¦?
POOF! Thatās all going to your medical bills now.
Or at least. A tiny fraction of your medical bills :)
And now you canāt keep working to pay those bills off, or save up more money to go back to school. Because youāre too sick!
So likeā¦ good luck I guess??
And now Iām here having to deal with the fact that my friends who started school at the same time as me are graduating this semester.
And Iām just. Spending all my days alone in my room helpless and lonely and rotting :)))
It just really stinks that even though Iāve been trying so hard my whole life and putting SO MUCH of myself into literally everything I do,,, itās never seemed to pay off.
In fact it feels like if anything, all itās done is come back to bite me in the ass and make the failure hurt worse in the end.
šš big āplease please please let me get what I want by the smithsā moment
But anyways *ahem*
Like I said,,,,,
Whenever I get to feeling like this. I definitely always end up thinking about and coming back to Saeyoung.
Becauseā¦ different life situations, obviously.
Iām glad at least I havenāt had to check ālost twinā or ābeing a secret agentā off my trauma bingo card yet.
But then again. I never thought Iād check off medical trauma either and look how that turned out, so who knows what the future has in store for me? š
At any rate,,, I know heād be able to empathize, and understand those feelings.
More so than anyone Iāve ever met in real life, probably.
Thatās definitely a huge part of why he came to mean so much to me in the first place. And why heās the character I come back to time and time again when things start feeling really unfair.
And,, knowing just how and why heād be able to understand and relate to those feelings is a big part of why I love him so muchā¦
I just get so overwhelmed any time I get caught up thinking about that manās endless capacity for goodness and love. Even through all the shit heās been through. And how,, no matter how hurt he was, how hopeless he felt, or how much he *wanted* to give up. He never ever could. Because thatās just who he is,, if thereās even the slimmest margin of a chance that he could do something to make the world better for his loved ones, heād drag himself there to the point of physically falling apart and not even think twice about it.
And like,,, yeah,,, itās an issue in its own right and breaks my heart to think of how far heād go for others while having so little regard for himself.
But also,,,,, itās so admirable š Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again. Saeyoung Choi is made of love.
And like,,, more than just Ye Olde āself-destruction in the name of helping his loved onesā thing,, I also get so worked up just thinkin about him being his silly dorky self,,
And again justā¦ through everything,, even when he tried to convince himself that it was a front and he wasnāt actually like that,,, he never stopped being bright and curious and passionate,,, because that IS who he is,,, heās a NERD and he genuinely loves learning and trying new things and having fun,,, and spreading that joy to the people around him. š„¹ā¤ļø
It just makes me wanna fuckin SMOTHER him with all of the affection and appreciation I could ever possibly muster up. And tell him over and over and over again how incredible and kind and brave and strong and special he is, and how much I love and adore him, and how lucky and proud I feel to even exist in the same universe as someone so earnestly and relentlessly Good. š„ŗļæ½ļæ½ļæ½ļæ½
I would simply like to love him to death dhdjdjd
And like. I guess itās cathartic to me to imagine being able to do that and say those things to him.
And to really just,,, bask in those overwhelming feelings of affection.
Bc I guess thatās how I wish someone would see and feel about me š
and that I could have someone in my life who would see how hard I try,, and be proud of me, and make me feel like I have value outside of my achievements in life (or,,, lack thereof). And like,,,, love me for all the times I kept going even when it hurt. That would be cool,,,,
Me out here since 2016 trying to fix myself by fixing Saeyoung šš
Literally even now I feel better than I did when I started typing this message having thought about him and how much I love him fjfjfjf
Kuz,,, thereās the catharsis in thinking about being able to say those things that i wish I could hear myself to someone else.
But then thereās the added layer of self-indulgent catharsis of being able to be like,,,
I mean, hey, Saeyoung probably *would* see you in a similar light,,, if anyone would be able to understand and appreciate those things in me, it would be him. :āD
We are,,, the pointing Spider-Man meme,,, but make it gay dhdhdj
And that shit is,,, overwhelming to think about.
Ahh the euphoria of loving Saeyoung Choi shdhjd
And,, imagining a world where he loves me back just as much,,,
Thatās nice,,, :āD
Anyways. I donāt know where I intended on going with this. I feel like Iām just awkwardly talking in circles and not making sense.
And I didnāt mean to get as vent-y as I did there.
I guess I just was all tangled up in my thoughts about all this shit and wanted to try and articulate that side of why Saeyoung means so much to me.
And to have an excuse to gush about my precious little meow meow. š¤”
As usual,,, if youāve actually taken the time to read through this mess. Thank you haha.
Wishing you the best, always. ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
Don't worry, I get where you're coming from.
I had the same experience, similar, anyway. I thought college was the way out and went like I was "supposed" to. I suffered for a long time as a child in an abusive, impoverished environment, and there was no way out but a single door that everyone sold me. Well, as soon as the door closed on high school, my body started to give up. I dealt with a single diagnosis at first, and then, by the next time Spring Break was around, I had two more issues that would nearly cause me to lose my life.
Being on death's door after you've fought so hard to escape is a sick joke, and it's hard to put that grief into words. I'm sure you know what I mean, though. You think you're getting out and then it feels like God is laughing in your face. As if to say, "You thought you were allowed to be happy and free? Ha! Sike!" Hitting rock bottom with those types of emotions is not fun in the slightest. I still feel grief in that way when a bad day comes along. Even if you're working through your feelings, a bad flare will make you struggle.
Being Disabled and Chronically Ill means you're in a perpetual loop of "I'm okay with this" > "I hate this" > "This is okay sometimes" > "Why is it that I'm being punished" > "I can't take it anymore" > "This is... okay. I am okay".
You cycle through acceptance, anger, grief, begging, and everything that comes with loss. We don't have to be okay with our struggles, you know? It's not something people can understand unless it's their experience. Sure, if someone close to you is that sick, you might be able to understand, but not all of it. It's something that can't be put into words. Sometimes, the hardest part is trying to get someone to understand that you won't get better. You will only get worse. It's not like a broken arm.
I want you to know that I've been there. Stuck in a bedroom for years and it hurt. I lost out on experiences because I didn't have support in the way I needed. I had to become my own doctor and advocate the second I realized the healthcare system latched onto my anxiety to blame for all my problems. I haven't had health care in years because America is a piece of shit, but I don't think anyone should be forced to become more intelligent than their doctor to save their life. Then, you have to act like you know nothing because if you know too much, they think you doom scroll health conditions online.
But, that's another thing. You get used to it. You shrug. Your pain is a 7 to an average person but to you, it's a 2. You get used to it. You just learn how to adapt. You forget what not being in pain feels like. I can't remember what it felt like to not have something hurt!
Mental health and physical health are other things. When you've got to deal with both of them, it's weird. You might have a bad day with a flare but your mental health is just fine, vice versa, or the opposite of that. If you're in too much physical pain to think, you're not going to think about your depression. You just sleep. God, one thing that did happen to me was that my compulsive hand-washing started to be something I did less because I physically couldn't get out of bed at one point and I just said, "Fuck it. I can't do it. It's fine."
Still have that issue but it's not what it was. It's hard to explain how these issues clash with each other.
Haha. Anyway, I get it. I know what you mean about Saeyoung 'cause I feel the same way about Saeran. I met the RFA in 2016. I was on the door of death, not knowing what was coming next, and they saved a life that day. I don't know where I'd be without this game. Everyone in the group helped me see a chance to live.
Saeyoung was one of the first, too. I love him like a brother because I saw my sacrifices in him. I'm like him in that sense. I would throw my life on the line to see someone else happy. That's not always a good trait because you need to protect yourself, too.
You can't always give to others. Sometimes, you need to be selfish. But, having him by your side to empathize with is cathartic, you're right. He gets it. He knows what you mean and he doesn't judge.
You love him because you see yourself in him. You know he's capable of love, just like you are, and you know that he's safe. He'd know that you're safe, too. He knows you better than you know yourself, and I'd dare say it's the same way the other way around. That's why it's easy to love him. You know he'll never let go of you. You know he'll always fight for you. You want to be fought for, you want to be loved, and you want a chance to be validated the way you validate Saeyoung.
I'd say there's nothing wrong with that.
I look to Saeran because he'd get me. He's been just as sick as I've been and I wouldn't have to tell him what's wrong in detail. I could just look at him with pain in my soul, and he'd know. He'd get it and I wouldn't have to explain it. He'd just hold me... like I'd just hold him at his lowest moment. I feel like loving him makes me a better person. It reminds me that I have to try to treat myself the way I'd treat him... and the way he'd treat me. He'd want me to see something good even at the worst, and that helps me more than a lot of things.
So, I'd say, if you feel low... think about how Saeyoung would fight for you and help that inspire you to fight for yourself. Because he loves you and he always will, even if the galaxy keeps the two of you apart from one another. If you feel a flutter in your chest, it's him, calling out to your heart with a prayer you'll smile again.
And just remember, talking about your grief helps. Don't ball it up. If you have to write something down to let it out, do it. Never hesitate.
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the fact that i dont have a boyfriend is homophobia at its finest tbh
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homophobia in its finest forms tbh
beautiful starting XI, banger cooney cross debut goal, gorgeous codi header from a viv lia free kick, our corners actually had potential, manu in the pink keeper kit, mariona debut start, foxy back on the XI, cute leah and kyra cele after her goal and codi with a second cracking goal and we COULDNT WATCH??
arsenal i am in your walls for this
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Being made to remove my heart necklace for clinical is homophobia at its finest tbh how will the butches know?? how will they know??
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54.Ā āCome closer.ā for IronWidow!
Furyās Academy was considered a wonderful place for those of the world that were magical, mystic, or just described by most of the outside world asĀ āweird.ā Mermaids, vampires, werewolves, zombies, mummies, and any other creature attended and interacted with others.Ā
But there was one that stood out especially, mainly because he was really the only one of his kind in a long time.Ā
Tony Stark, resident man-made creature. Frankensteinās monster, essentially. People werenāt exactly...made anymore. Tell that to his father, who had wanted a super-genius as a son and stitched him up and animated him and decided that he didnāt look human enough and ditched him.Ā
Apparently, he also was strange enough that most of the monsters chose not to interact with him. They usually talked about him, looking at his bolts and stitches and different eyes.Ā
Tony usually asked if they had a problem, flipped them off, or kept to himself. All he had to do was get out of this school, take an online university course or find somewhere that didnāt look at him as weird, and heād be fine.Ā
School wasnāt too bad. As long as he didnāt really make much attention for himself, the worst he got was a stare or two. And none of the really popular kids really gave him shit.Ā
In fact, he kind of...liked one of them. Natasha, a fairy. She was someone that everyone wanted to be with, know, but she was also not trusted worth a damn. He couldnāt see why. The only time she would ever actively trick or deceive someone is if they were being an asshole first.Ā
She also didnāt look at him like he was a freak. Just like he was another person in her world.Ā
So yeah. She was also incredibly beautiful and had funny comments.Ā
And then they have a group project. Tony hates group projects. Usually people ask if they can have his school email. He gives it to them, they email him about the project, and that way they donāt have to go to a coffee shop with someone as obvious as him. Itās fine.Ā
The teacher assigns Tony to Natasha, Bucky, and Samās group. He looks up in surprise. He knows one eye goes wider than the other, and he sees Buckyās gaze avert. Great.Ā
Tony moves over to their space, taking a spare desk.Ā
āSo, uh, what do we wanna do?ā Sam asks. His gaze is down.Ā
āWeāll meet for coffee at Faeās,ā Natasha says. Her eye contact doesnāt break.Ā āI can cover Napoleon in the early years, but Iāll need help setting up the presentation. Tony, wanna help me pick out the design?āĀ
Tony starts.Ā
āUh, yeah,ā Tony says. He doesnāt meet her eyes.Ā āI can get there.āĀ
āGreat,ā she responds with.Ā āBucky, Sam, please donāt be late or order a just-black coffee.āĀ
āOkay prissy,ā Sam says, rolling his eyes.Ā āNot my fault that you canāt handle plain black.āĀ
āItās called having taste,ā Natasha says. Tony smiles a bit. Itās just natural dialogue, something heās never experienced.Ā āTony, what kind of coffee do you like?āĀ
Tony freezes. No oneās really asked him a question like that before.Ā
āOh, um, I usually make my own,ā he says.Ā āBut if Iām getting fancy coffee itās usually something minty.āĀ
āGood choice,ā Bucky offers.Ā
Itās a start, Tony realizes. Theyāre being nice to him.Ā
He smiles as he exits the classroom. Even if the younger kids donāt look at him, at least some people were nice to him.Ā
Natasha personally get why people treat Tony like heās some sort of freak. Heās just like the rest of them, really. Has cool eyes, the kind that she wants.Ā
āAre you sure about Tony?ā Bucky asks.Ā
āYes,ā Natasha says.Ā āI think heās nice and he needs some friends. We can be friends.āĀ
āOkay,ā Bucky says.Ā āBut if this backfires...āĀ
āIt wonāt,ā she says.Ā āI know it wonāt.āĀ
Tony calls Sharon about this. She goes to a different school, but only because Peggy offered to take her. Tony isnāt really immediate family, even though he goes to all the holidays. At least the Carters donāt really treat him differently.Ā
āThey could be friendly,ā Sharon says.Ā āI know Natasha. Sheās not mean on purpose at any time.āĀ
āThatās good to hear,ā Tony says, tinkering with a robot.Ā āHow are classes?āĀ
āGood, except for my magical history class. Weāre reading about some stupid bullshit human tale and assessing it. Iām currently on my seventh page of ranting.āĀ
āAcademic ranting?āĀ
āMostly. I think one or two curse words fell in. How are your classes going?āĀ
āEh, alright. People still donāt think that Iām just studying and working harder in engineering classes, but thatās to be expected when your brain technically isnāt all-the-way-your-own.āĀ
āFuck them dude,ā Sharon says.Ā āI know that youāre gonna kill the game.āĀ
āThanks Shar,ā Tony responds, smiling.Ā āI gotta go, weāre getting coffee pretty soon. Thanks for talking with me.āĀ
āAny time, you know that. Love you!āĀ
āLove you too.āĀ
He breathes deeply, looking at his options. He chooses red plaid, a long jacket, and gloves. He can hide some of his changes, and thatās what heās looking to do. Getting on his glasses and ear buds, he walks to the shop.Ā
Natasha has already commandeered the best table in the shop. She waves to him and he waves back.Ā
The barista is nice. Her name is Jane, and she tells him that his earrings (small skeletons) are very cute and she wishes she had a pair like that.Ā
āI found them at the craft store,ā Tony admits.Ā
His drink is four dollars, but he tips her five. She grins and waves bye at him.Ā
He sits with Natasha, who says that she ordered a caramel frozen drink.
āItās already cold outside,ā Tony teases.Ā
āWorth it,ā Natasha says, sipping some more.Ā āHowās the mint?āĀ
Heās surprised that she remembers. But he says itās fine and he even manages to wave at Sam, who smiles and waves back.Ā
He sets his stuff down.Ā āWhat should I order? Iām thinking the blueberry or the pumpkin.āĀ
āBlueberry,ā Tony answers.Ā āThis shop always goes heavy on the flavoring for pumpkin and it tastes bad sometimes.āĀ
āYou sound like youāre a regular,ā Sam says.Ā
āMy cousin Sharon and I used to come here all the time before she went to study abroad,ā Tony says.Ā
āSharon Carter?ā Sam asks, eyes wide.Ā āHoly shit, you have the coolest cousin in the world!āĀ
āSam has a bit of a crush on her,ā Natasha adds helpfully. Sam flips her off and goes to order his coffee.Ā
Bucky comes in, holding treats.Ā
āFrom Ma,ā he adds.Ā āTony, you like peanut butter?āĀ
āI canāt say Iāve tried the cookie form of it,ā Tony says, taking one.Ā
Itās...normal. They donāt ask him questions about his stitching or his eyeballs or anything else. They ask him about his favorite colors and least favorite songs, and Natasha actually shares his same sense of humor.Ā
He finds out that she lives kind of by him. Two blocks down. She knows Ana and Jarvis because they walk their dog in the morning before school and say hi to her when sheās out walking her cat.Ā
āYour cat is Cinnamon?ā Tony blurts.Ā āOh my god, youāre the reason why Ana wants to get a cat!āĀ
āYeah, I guess so,ā Natasha responds.Ā āBut hey, if you ever wanna come closer to see Cinnamon, feel free.āĀ
āSame goes for seeing our dog,ā Tony says. Friday loves the attention of basically anyone, and Natasha smiles.Ā
āDefinitely. See you on Monday?āĀ
āIāll see you on Monday.āĀ
Tony grins to himself as he gets to his house. He thinks that this is finally a good start.Ā
#i always put a 'keep reading' link as i'm writing and then as soon as i hit post it disappears#that's homophobia at it's finest tbh#lovelyirony writes#natasha romanoff#tony stark#sam wilson#bucky barnes#YES ANA AND JARVIS RAISE TONY#IT'S GOOD
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wait so youāre telling me that if i want a specific screenshot from CAR Iām going to have to actually install the game and play it? gross
#sounds like a lot of effort for a joke imo#i mean#i'm gonna do it#but i do not appreciate this#(tbh i mostly just don't want to interact with joy-less joy. ugh.)#homophobia at its finest#clue crew#lmao
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I would likeeeee to play with someoneās hair while receiving head is that too much to ask??
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All right the English major in me is coming out to bat, and I can hold it in no longer because my whole darn Honors thesis is on Shakespeare.
So while acknowledging that this is all speculation bc we can't actually know unless Tom and Owen tell us what's up, here's my two cents on the weird Two Gentlemen of Verona thing Tom and Owen evidently have going on.
First of all, y'all should know that it's Hella Weird that this is the play that Owen can quote the first line of. And the reason is that it's Shakespeare's literal worst play. Like not even kidding it's so bad. It's an important play for Shakespeare scholars bc it's his first play, and in it you can see the precursors to his later, much better works like Romeo and Juliet. A sandbox of sorts. But especially in comparison to the rest of his work, it's Really Bad. And because of this, it's not very well known at all, and my Shakespeare professor actively recommended that we not read it for our optional comedy to study.
Let me break it down for y'all.
Basic plot is you've got Valentine and Proteus who have a very homoerotic relationship (if you recall Owen quoting the first line, it's literally Valentine saying "cease to persuade, loving Proteus") but one which is Toxic As Hell, for which Proteus is at fault, stemming from some intense internalized homophobia imo. Valentine leaves Verona, inviting Proteus to come with him, but Proteus is too busy with his fiancƩe Julia and says no. So off Valentine goes, and he meets the beautiful Silvia and falls in love with her instantly, as you do, but her dad doesn't like it much. Proteus decides he misses his Bro and ditches Julia to go after him. Upon finding Valentine with Silvia, he gets pissed and decides he wants Silvia for himself (tho you could argue this is out of internalized homophobia fueled jealousy) and purposefully gets Silvia's dad to banish Valentine. Sucks to be Proteus tho bc Silvia is Not into him and says as much to a disguised Julia who's followed her deadbeat fiancƩ and found him with this other girl. Silvia loves Valentine tho so she goes off with Proteus and disguised Julia to go find him where he was banished. Proteus doesn't like this tho and right before they find Valentine, he tries to force himself on her. Thankfully he's stopped by Valentine, but there's a really weird line where Valentine either says "whatever if you want her that bad take her" or "all the love I have for her is yours" depending on how you read it. Either way, it's not great bc it glosses over the whole non-con issue from like 2 minutes ago, Julia also reveals herself and then they go "oh yay we're all here now let's get married" and then Valentine ends up with Silvia and Proteus ends up with Julia.
And like, people have mentioned before that you could technically draw a parallel with Sylvie and Silvia bc their names are similar, and that it's kinda like Loki and Mobius bc Valentine leaves Proteus to go after Silvia, and there's the homoerotic implications for Lokius, but really that's where the similarities stop, and comparing Mobius to Proteus is just an insult to Mobius' character tbh.
If we're gonna draw Shakespeare parallels, we could make a much more compelling argument with Twelfth Night (the m/f twin connection is right there) or even Hamlet or Much Ado About Nothing than with Two Gentlemen, so it doesn't make much sense for Tom and Owen to have this inside joke directly related to the Loki series.
And not only is the play deeply problematic as I've illustrated above, it's also poorly written. It's a bad play y'all. That's why nobody knows it. So there is No Way that of all the Shakespeare plays to want to do, Owen Wilson, who has himself said that he has no real familiarity with the Bard other than a college Shakespeare class, would pick Two Gentlemen as his dream Shakespeare production. It makes exactly zero sense whatsoever. (He'd be much, much more suited for a role like Benedick in Much Ado imo)
We do know, however, that Owen is excellent at improvising and likes joking around and messing with people. So I imagine that rather than being a secret lokius joke, it came into being by way of an interaction along these lines:
Tom: So have you ever played Hamlet?
Owen, shook and kinda laughing: Nah, it's not really my typecast so I've never had the opportunity.
Tom, wanting to be encouraging: Aw I'm sure you'd be great in the role! Though I am curious, if you were to be in any Shakespeare play, what would it be?
Owen, wracking his brain for buried play titles from college like thirty years ago: uhhh Two Gentlemen of Verona, maybe???????
Tom, a Shakespeare nerd who knows the play, suddenly Very concerned but polite: oh,,,, is that so?
Owen, noticing the confusion but deciding it'll be funnier to roll with it: yeah I think it's a really compelling story. One of Shakespeare's finest works if you ask me.
Tom, visibly shaking and in a cold sweat: r-really?,,,??,
Owen, busting up laughing: sskdjskksk no not at all! I know like nothing about Shakespeare, cmon. I was Lightning McQueen! I just vaguely remember reading that play in college.
Tom, sighing in relief: oh thank God I was so worried. That's the worst one!
Owen, amused: is it?
Tom, going into professor mode: well you see--
And so it probably became like a "I'm pretending to be pretentious and cultured" sort of inside joke that played a part in their bonding as coworkers and snuck its way into the documentary bc they thought it'd be funny, and they were right. Tbh the way they talked about it sounded a lot like my and my friends riffing on plays in my Shakespeare class, so I'm inclined to believe that that's what they're doing here.
#This became much longer than I anticipated whoops#But now I want a much ado about nothing lokius AU šššš#Loki#Mobius#Lokius#tom hiddleston#owen wilson#And I guess technically#widdlewow#Though I feel a lil sacreligious tagging that lmaooooooo
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downton for the blorbo meme š¼
Thank you for enabling me gushing about My Show, anon! <3
blorbo: Well. Well. He is the character I think about when I hear the term "Blorbo from My Shows". He has bewitched me, body and soul. He is my current icon. He is a goddamn loser. I have loved him for six years. My love for him has once again struck me like a bolt of lightning. He will probably be the answer to most of the simlish words on this meme. He is Thomas Barrow.
scrunkly: Is it weird that all my scrunklies are literal children... Anyway, Sybbie, George and Marigold. They are my scrunklies.
scrimblo bimblo: I think Mrs Patmore is underappreciated considering that apart from being one of the funniest characters on the show (I accidentally wrote "hottest characters"... freudian slip much...), she is also a very interesting character and has an interesting (gay) dynamic with Mrs Hughes. Also! There can never be enough love for the actual gay icon that is Septimus Spratt.
glup shitto: Philip Villiers, the Duke of Crowborough with his ten minutes of screentime during which he tried and failed to manipulate mansplain malewife himself some goddamn pocket money. Him never being mentioned again was homophobia at it's finest. But tbh, Downton has many glub shittos for me since the show is so good at introducing good concepts and then abandoning them. Margie Drewe is my actual favourite character who never did anything wrong. Irina Kuragin is a milf supreme and I wish she pulled me out of a carriage by my hair. Thomas Barrow absolutely power bottomed the butler Stowell and good for him. Miss Wilkins and Sarah O'Brien got to know each other in the biblical sense.
poor little meow meow: Thomas Barrow. 101%. He is just so pathetic. I'm pretty sure he'd fall apart and cry if you told him you are proud of him. I want to lift his chin up with my gilded walking stick like he was a shivering victorian street urchin.
horse plinko: Tormenting Thomas Barrow is really fun! Sadly Julian Fellowes agrees with me!
eeby deeby: I send Sarah O'Brien to superhell for her extremely lesbian crimes. And you know, for using society's homophobia to get her former best friend fired. And also for attempting to kill her girlfriend in season one. But you know. I love to see a girlboss winning.
Send me a fandom and I'll tell you my blorbo etc!
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Even More Gay Shit in āThe Goldfinchā
Specifically, Chapter 6: i-iv, because that showcases some of Theoās finest internalised homophobic hours and some of the gayest shit surrounding Boris.
So, I was rereading āThe Goldfinchā and I forgot how fucking gay Theoās dumbass is in parts i. ā iv. at the beginning of Chapter 6, like, it fucking SENT me. After reading some of Theoās finest examples of internalised homophobia and general headassery, I decided that I needed to collect the gayest selection of quotes from this specific part and analyse them and their gayness accordingly, because once again, itās lockdown, God is dead and I killed Her with this fucking essay.
Theoās internalised homophobia and feelings towards Boris are depicted especially strongly at the beginning of Chapter 6 ā The Wind, Sand and Stars due to the introduction of Borisā girlfriend, Kotku. Theo clearly portrays Kotku as a threat to his and Borisā relationship, without ever giving a valid (heterosexual explanation) answer why: a) she poses such a threat to their āfriendshipā ā oh no wait sorry their āthere was not exactly a word for Boris and meā-ship, or b) why heās so upset by her being in a relationship with Boris. He tries to rationalise this by saying that itās just Kotku that he has a problem with and that there were āLots of other, better girls our own age [that] liked Borisā, however, itās clear that he has a problem with anyone taking Boris away from him.
Theo is overly harsh of Kotku and we never receive an unbiased presentation of her. Heās always trying to make her come off worse than she probably is and make it sound ludicrous that Boris is in a relationship with her, specifically. To try and justify this behaviour, he often follows comments like these on with something that sounds reasonable and rational ā this also helps to highlight his ignorance to his feelings for Boris as this clearly depicts his jealousy towards Boris being close/in a relationship/spending time with someone that isnāt him.
Theoās problem with Kotku can only be explained through jealousy, there is literally no other way to interpret why he hates her so much, after all, if she treats Boris well and makes him happy, why should Theo, his supporting bestest friend have a problem with that? (Because heās fucking jealous).
Iām going to work through each segment of the chapter through quotes Iāve picked out to fully show how fucking ridiculous this part is ā it sends me every fucking time I read it so I need a log of all the gay shit.
Summary of the points Iām trying to make by showing you all this:
Theo clearly presents his relationship with Boris to have grown closer since the last chapter, so close in fact that they āwere so attuned to each otherā that they didnāt need to talk to each other to communicate properly, and that Boris knew ājust where [Theo] was weakest, the spot under the blade where he could dig his fingersā. Heās set the scene to depict this intimate and intense relationship they now have after spending almost a year living together and spending all their time together. The closeness of their relationship can clearly be paralleled with that of a romantic relationship from these descriptors alone but are intensified by the following.
The quotes highlighted above in green clearly show Theoās jealousy towards Boris now spending more time with Kotku than he is with Theo. Obviously, itās natural to miss your friends and to want to spend time with them if theyāre spending more time with other people or their partner, but the way Theo depicts his feelings here can only be read as jealousy.
If this wasnāt enough, Theo makes Kotku seem like sheās really boring (āThe name Kotkuā¦makes her sound more interesting than she wasā, āsheād lived in Clark County, Nevada her whole lifeā), a horrible person (āthe glare she slid over me was anxiety provokingā), and unattractive, despite not really getting to know her and give her a chance.
Theo also tries to tell us that he cannot remember Kotkuās real name and puts her down so that it comes across like she meant and her presence in his life meant nothing to him. He does this constantly throughout the chapter. (We should keep a running count of how many times he says something like āKotkuā¦or WHATEVER her name was, I canāt remember because she was so BORING and INSIGNIFICANT to my life, that I just simply cannot remember her name! Oh but I can by chance remember the exact outfit Boris was in a whilst proclaiming his undying love for Kotku, he was also running his hands through his hair which I totally donāt have a boner for!ā.)
He even goes as far to hit Boris āhardā because he was āin no moodā to hear about Borisā feelings for Kotku. Thatās jealousy, baby!
ii. ā And this is over 3 pages
Summary:
Heās pretending not to know Kotkuās name again, and also reinforcing that āor whateverā part,
Shows his #jealous streak again as he says Kotku āvirtually assumed ownership of Borisā, like bitch, calm the fuck down,
Shows even more jealousy,
Key word ā āembarrassedā, keep note for later as this appears when Theo has to head on deal with some gay shit and does not want to deal with said gay shit so he feels embarrassed and thatās on internalised homophobia,
Says he found Kotku ādisturbingā and the reasons as to why he did find her disturbing, Boris liked ā shows how heās gay! Because he hates women! Unless theyāre Pippa or his mom! Jokes! Or is itā¦
And thereās even more bullying towards Kotku who is yet to do something offensive to Theo.
iii. ā 1 page
Summary:
I think these ones are pretty self-explanatory,
AND!!! Thereās the last quote which I think is really interesting because itās an example of Theo comparing activities he does with Boris that he would, hypothetically, do with a girl on a date, likeā¦ok bro. Thatās fucking gay. He does this again somewhere too, but I canāt remember where.
iv. ā Ok, so, this is the big one where he owns up to his totally no homo shenanigans, thereās a lot to unpack from this entire part, strap yourselves in.
(For the key in this part, assume anything unhighlighted corresponds to the yellow on the chart, as there was too much of it and it looked really ugly so I removed it.)
Mini Summary Before the Really Gay Shit:
Theo is an oblivious dumbass who totally likes Boris in a very homo way, so much so that he fucking despises our queen Kotku. He also is obviously clouded by internalised homophobia because he cannot realise that he does in fact like Boris.
v ā What Iām going to look at here is what the fuck is going on and why Theoās explaining it in the way he is.
My thoughts are going to be in bullet points here because thereās SO much to analyse.
Theo clearly shows how heās fucking head over heels for this Boris bitch. Just read like all of it.
He tries to describe it like he doesnāt care that much, and I mean, you can just tell that the motherfuckerās lying. Like seriously, dude. Like the whole part where heās like āI didnāt want BORIS to get the WRONG IDEA! Wouldnāt that be fucking gay? HAHAHAH, not me! Iām heterosexual!ā. Heās saying he wants to āmake things clearā with Boris to āmake absolutely sure he didnāt have the wrong ideaā and personally, I think this is either because heās completely fucked with internalised homophobia or heās just dealing with the ārejectionā from Boris because Boris is from Kotku. Maybe heās saying this to make rejection hurt less?
I also want to talk about Borisā possible side in this whole thing. We never see Borisā point of view of this shit because this entire book is just Theo wallowing in self-pity (dude, get a fucking therapist, Iām begging you). Do you think that Boris maybe got with Kotku because he knew Theo was fucked with internalise homophobia and thought that maybe meant that Theo didnāt vibe with the shit they were doing? Or, do you think he did it because HE was dealing with shit like, āOh, boy! Do I like girls? Orā¦.like whatās happening here?ā
IN CONCLUSION:
This was just an excuse for me to gather all the gay shit and write down some thoughts. Thatās IT! I am ILLITERATE at this point tbh.
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Quick Storytime š³ļøāššš¤·āāļøĀ
(why I'm telling you? Bcs this fandom is so incredible and bcs I feel like it's a judgment free zone. And idk, I guess it could start a conversation or even help someone idk. I apologize if I'm interrupting your feed)
Part 2
Part 3
First of all, Hiii, I'm bi
You may be asking: "what's that got to do with anything?"
Well, let me tell you, it's basically the whole reason I'm telling this story....
So, I figured out I was Bi like 2-3 years ago (I'm 16 btw) and tbh it wasn't this big thing for me. It was kinda a "oh, hi, this is new. Ok then" moment for me.
In fact, I was so unfazed by it that I put it in the back of my mind for about 1 1/2 years. I guess it was mostly because I knew my school and friends had created the most accepting environment for everyone regardless of who they are; and I'm hyper aware of how lucky I was to have that. So, I subconsciously decided that I wasn't gonna tell anyone unless it came up in conversation.
Yes, the environment was so amazingly accepting that I didn't feel like my sexuality was something that I had to make a huge deal out of (even if it would've been celebrated). It was just whatever to me. And it felt good. Idk how to explain it, if anyone can help I'd love to hear your take on this, but like it was so normalised that it almost felt like I never realised I was different. I know, I KNOW, that sounds weird and maybe even bad but that's the best way I know how to describe the feeling.
(Btw, I didn't "come out" to my friends from that school until a year ago when it actually DID come up and they were just like "oh, cool, I didn't know, anyways-" š shout out to them, [some are bicons] )
However, as great as that feeling was, I didn't realize until recently that there was a another deeper reason why I never addressed my sexuality with others and....well.....with myself.
My Parents are good people and throughout the years they've become more open-minded, which shows huge growth coming from two people raised by our....less open-minded gen. My dad usually, randomly sits me down to talk and when topics related to the LGBTQ+ community came up he always told me that I should feel safe to tell them (him + mom) if I ever felt like I liked girls or was confused or whatever, and that he would love me just the same. That sounds comforting, right? It was, and it's not like I didn't believe him, I just had that tiny fear of how they would react if that scenario did happen. And my mom....she's accepting but....idk, that's a different story and I don't have the time to get into it but it's more or less the same reasoning I just mentioned.
I feel like that tiny fear created my very own tiny monster of internalised homophobia (or biphobia in this case). Yes, I know that contradicts what I said about not really paying attention to my sexuality, but hear me out: I was happy to know who I was, but I never discussed it with myself. I never talked about it with my friends even tho I knew it would be more than fine. If I wanted to kiss the living daylights out of a cute girl that walked by I would stop staring immediately (gay panic at its finest). It was all new and very overwhelming. And I felt like if I didn't talk about it, if I didn't mention it, if I didn't even think about it, I could live my life just fine without any of the other worries I had.
This next part is even more confusing, so bare with me: I thought if I ignored it, I could still feel it and accept it, without the possibility of sorta bad outcomes
Welp..... that's a mouth full hahaha. But hey! It made sense at the time.
And that was that. My life was now controlled by this new philosophy I had invented and I'm not gonna lie, It was great. Oh, I feel like I should mention, this was only a problem I had with myself, not others. By this point I had my IG fan account where I openly Identified as bisexual (obviously, no one knew who I was so it felt like an alter ego). I went to pride but never openly expressed my connection to it. I was a bisexual mess disguised as an ally to others but....I never felt like I was hiding anything. My business was my business and if it came up, I'd tell people and if not, then it wasn't the end of the world.
(Btw, if this how YOU feel, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. You do you :) it's just that in my story, this was an obstacle. But you keep living your best life if that's your thing!)
That was life for almost a year.
And then I moved back home.
[ this is getting way too long (sorry!) so I'm gonna split it š ]
#if you read all of that#bless your soul š
#personal#lgbtq#lgbt#bisexuality#bi bi bi#bisexual#technically a#coming out story#skam#skam france#wtfock#skam espaƱa
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i DID read the sylvgrid fic it's so cute and feeds so much warmth š sylvgrid is less popular cuz of sylvix and fair enough those two r .. In my first run i didnt care who to pair up so i got sylvix paired ending and man... they're gay ! good for them !
dorogrid is so fucken good and does not deserve only two supports š homophobia in it's finest . also i love how chrom is weirdly romantic whether or not you choose female robin ?? i feel the shepherds r like "if you see our boss being gay.. don't tell us, we already know š"
yea tbh i like sylvix too but sometimes... het ships have rights too... i ended up making felix end up with annette tho (consistently in all my playthroughs... I JUST CANT KEEP THEM APART THEYRE SO PRECIOUS FUCKFJFJDKKC) but yea sylvix fics are the bomb,,, queer fics stay winning
DUDE FR LIKE CHROM IS SUPER GAY WITH M!ROBIN JDEKJDKWWN CLEAR THE SEARCHES CHROM BISEXY š³ honestly you could also say the same for dimitri in fe3h bc i played both genders of byleth and my man... heās got horny for my professor disease awooga š„µ
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thoughts on the rpdr reunion?
oooh i have so many thoughts, where do i even start.
this is the second time Vanjie has ripped my heart out of my rib cage (the first time being her elimination last week), so that was fUN. she just looked genuinely hurt at the whole breakup situation, which is a sight i canāt stand, but still she managed to be ICONIC while going through it -Ā āi wanted the notebook experience but i was getting post-itsā?? and the whole charlie and the chocolate factory and oompa loompas āmetaphorā?Ā a literary genius.Ā could anyone be more of an icon?Ā donāt think so. i love her in brown hair and brown eyes, she looked stunning! those heels!! i donāt know a better person, iDONT KNOW A BETTER PERSON.Ā
Brooke seemed kinda cold about everything to me, but i get thatās just how she is. sheās kind of closed off and really focused on the competition rather than the drama and conflama, which is only fair. sheās fierce and i am still rooting for her even though sheās a thot ssjsjhsh.Ā and i loOoOved herĀ outfit - those pants and the cape??? ugh, step on my neck mom.
i was glad Silky managed to pretty much keep her mouth shut because oh my god i canāt take her anymore. i was ready to press mute whenever she appeared on screen. im also kind of disappointed in AāKeria because she never once took responsibility for all the shit sheās started (on camera! like, there is PROOF bitch!! how are you gonna deny the evidence, girl please. bye). same with RaāJah but tbh thatās exactly what i expected from her. her throwing that goddam tumbleweave across the stage was iconic though lmao (also because i canNOT stand Ariel).
i love Yvie, sheās one of the very few - if not the only - coherent ones and while she is indeed very confrontational i know that sheās got the biggest heart, i can see it in her eyes (?). i also love how eloquent and how unapologetically herself she is and also that outfit and mug?? icon status.
i also have newfound respect for miss Plastique and miss Scarlet. i always liked Plastique but i like her even more now i donāt even fully know why. she just seems very mature for her age, and sheās incredibly talented.Ā her look was breathtaking, honestly. as for Scarletā¦ i found her annoying and inconsistent on the season but sheās so funny in interviews and on instagram, i love her, even though i do think she needs to work on her makeup and also some of her outfits were pretty but not that well executed imo. her reunion look, however!!! loved it. LOVED it. and when she went:Ā ābecause you can direct it this way when youāre done with Yvieā - i liVEDDD binch! i gasped! we have to stan.
as for everyone elseā¦ in the words of Ru herself:Ā āā¦mehā
so having said all of that, i now know for certain that i donāt want Silky OR AāKeria to win. whereas iād be genuinely happy with both Brooke Lynn or Yvie winning. tbh i do think Yvie would be slightly more exciting as a reigning queen, but to be fair Brooke did do generally better in the competition. sooo idk. but what i am set on is this: they are the top two we absolutely deserve and need. like, we NEED a Sorry not sorry lip sync part 2. otherwise it would be homophobia at its finest
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Hey, you mentioned in an earlier ask any Damian that Tim was also low-key sexist and tbh I'd love examples cause I feel like this has never been brought up and it's interesting??? Anyway, thanks Ur stuffs super interesting and insightful!
Thanks for your interest & nice words!
Letās be clear tho Anon (I assume itās the same Anon both times?), you are 200% entitled to disagree with me. Yes I am unapologetic about my opinions and write looong paragraphs of questionable pertinence to give arguments but like. The goal is to explain āwhy I think what I think,ā never to tell you āwhy you should think what I thinkā. Youāre very much welcome for the Damian post btw
Now I think Tim, precisely, shows internalized sexism. Doesnāt change the end result all that much though.
Random sequences
Letās get the most straightforward stuff out of the way.
[Robin (1991) #1 || Robin (1993) #43 & #179 || Detective Comics (1937) #687]
Dunno about you but the first two are particularly cringey for me. That and the agenda section.
Okay to be fair: He does attempt to defend Lynx (first example) beforehand, throwing the on-point āshe doesnāt have to go with you if she doesnāt want toā line. All is good for five seconds and then he goes āmaybe she likes that treatmentā.
We may have different sensibilities but the mere fact that that went through his head for even a second is the perfect illustration of whatās internalized sexism imo. Conscious thought & action level: A+ behavior (being able to identify a visibly wrong situation and taking action against it). Unconscious level: blatant sexism (āmaybe she likes itā aka a less visible/more subtle manifestation of bigotry).
He has aā¦ pretty specific way to regard womenās agenda. And is overall patronizing to straight-out disrespectful.
Timās treatment of Steph is a well-known fact but this is a call-out post so have a non-exhaustive bunch of examples:
[Robin (1993) #4, 41, 35, 44 || Batgirl (2009) #8]
On we go and see how thereās absolutely no ill-intent on Timās part in the next examples, yet I have a big problem with how heās considering the ladiesā agency:
[Robin (1993) #182 || Red Robin #10]
Notice how itās all about him whether the lady obeys him or not. His failure to impose the necessary authority or his failure to give the right directions. The girlsā choice/independence just doesnāt factor in. Itās a cop and a vigilante weāre talking about, not some civilians caught in the crossfire.
((btw itās disputable but his apology in RR#10 is too little too late as far as Iām concerned. Tim gets a pass since Nicieza has him referring to his dumbass traitor!Steph arc but he doesnāt deserve any additional credit either. Okay no Iām being mean, he gets kudos for making a step in the right direction with Steph. Tiny kudos. Itās a tiny step.))
[Red Robin #5]
Tam? Okay. Sheās the civilian who got embarked into this crazy story, she is in need of saving. But Prudence? Maybe donāt automatically assume that the assassin needs you to pat her on the back to even consider pursuing her own wishes, Timmy.
Tim can be arrogant to everyone yeah (more on that later), but I donāt remember him negating a manās agenda like that.
[Robin (1993) #25]
Yeah the kid who will feel betrayed when Bruce tells his identity to Steph just elected to tell her name to Connor whom they both donāt know well yet. While talking in her place rather than letting her answer for herself (something heās done on several occasions). Then he attempts to decide for her whether she has a right to participate, again. On that note: thank you Connor for putting Tim in his place, that sure doesnāt happen often.
[Robin (1993) #6 & #28]
Uh, yes you can. Give the adult woman whoās been handling Gothamās streets since before you were born some credit, Tim?
As for Helena, the scene in itself isā¦ well, not okay exactly. Heās basically dismissing her wish to handle a personal matter alone, which could imply he doesnāt think the other adult woman whoās been handling Gothamās streets since before he was born can handle the case.
Iām just putting it with his constant attempts to keep Steph from participating, often to cases that concerned her directly, and how he tends to take it personally when she doesnāt obeyā¦ but he casually brushes off Helena when sheās saying sheāll handle a personal case alone. Double standard? Maybe I got too specific a reading but. I donāt remember that sort of thing happening between Tim and male charactersā do call me out if Iām remembering wrong though.
And then thereās the āanother vigilanteā remark.
Anyway yes Tim can be arrogant towards both men and women. Much like Damian being antagonizing to everyone didnāt negate the possibility of him being sexist, Tim being generally arrogant doesnāt negate that possibility for him either.
Plus the only male characters Iāve seen him be that patronizing with are Chris Kent in Worldās Finest #3, and Damian. The ten-year-old whoās regularly antagonizing him and does deserve to be put in his place. Oh yeah, and maybe Dodge, another brat. So yeah I do think thereās a slight difference between Timās treatment of men and women, if only in frequency. (and in intensity tbh.)
Yes, heās been consistently disregardful to his girlfriends.
Anon, you say very rightfully that we shouldnāt automatically assume itās due to them being girls. Please believe itās not a conclusion Iāve come to automatically though:
A) While I realize that Tim only having canon girlfriends is due to heteronormativity & homophobia rather than a conscious writing intent to highlight any character trait, assuming that he wouldnāt have behaved better with boyfriends is pure speculationā aaand I am totally speculating heād behave better if only because heās never that patronizing or that dismissive of his peersā agency (examples above) when theyāre men. thatās part of why I ship tim/kon more easily than tim/steph.
B) Like with everything I brought up on this post Iām not considering his behavior with his romantic partners separately. Itās a character fault that could take its roots in several things, but Timās global characterization makes me think the root is sexism.
C) I understand why youāre thinking thereās no reason to conclude his disrespect is due to them being women; in the same vein I think thereās no reason to conclude itās not. Itās kind of a stalemate and both conclusions are valid.
Skipping Timās habit to break up by letter or by phone, ācause thatās not cool and obviously disrespectful but even I think itās more due to cowardice/inadequacy than sexism.
I donāt think I need to speak about Steph again. Letās go with Ari. Who Tim casually cheated on by kissing Steph on several occasions.
Being a cheat is, in itself, a distinct character flaw that doesnāt always takes its root in sexism. Plus itās something I have my reasons to assume Tim has grown out of.
Itās his reaction when he learns about Ariana ā"cheatingāā on him (she went ice-skating with another dude once in the 87 times Tim stood her up) that ticks me off. Btw and unlike Tim who didnāt seem to feel all that guilty, Ariana did try to tell him about it but he fell asleep during her confession.
[Robin (1993) #15 & #17]
Two things bother me here, a lot more than the cheating in itself: the possessiveness and the hypocrisy. You really donāt have a right to go all āMy Arianaā and to chew her out for the grand treachery that is ice-skating when youāve been casually kissing Steph, Timbo. What those panels prove is that thereās a double standard in Timās head. Which one exactly is up to your interpretation and thatās probably where weāll end up disagreeing. I read it as the āproper girls donāt get close to several boys at one time, but boys who get close to several girls are either ladies men or boys being boysā double-standard, hence Timās blatant lack of self-awareness here.
Btw and the thing that solidified my opinion here: Tim, as a rule, tends to be pretty self-aware, at least retrospectively. He puts himself into question and has no problem admitting when his judgment was clouded. I dunno take YJ #55 or Robin #119 for example (I even selected examples that both have Tim recognizing he wronged a girl!)
So if heās generally self-aware, but doesnāt see anything wrong with his own behavior in the specific situation where heās cheating on his girl then chewing her out? I explain it with the above double-standard. He internalized a mindset that keeps him from realizing how hypocrite heās being in this situation. Also he doesnāt confront Ari immediately, he had time to think about it, it wasnāt a spur of the moment thing. That shouldāve been enough to allow him to step back and evaluate himself but he just. Didnāt.
Bonus: Jack has been hinted to be sexist, and contrary to Tim itās safe to assume that was totally intentional.
[Batman (1940) #441 || Robin (1993) #122]
Only two occurrences in decades of canon arguably donāt make for solid basis but they still allow me to build a coherence since our parents do influence us without us realizing. And given how much Tim loved his dad (he said himself how much he got from Jack), it sure isnāt an element that could plead against him being sexist.
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Thereās a bunch of other sequences that I low key read as sexist, but that Iām more mitigated about or in which I gave Tim a pass for various reasons so I didnāt include them here.
All in all when I take a solid look at Timās global behavior, I see sexism. While it may not be a āsolid canon factā since it surely wasnāt intentional on the writersā part, I really donāt think itās an unreasonable thing to infer from his very canon behavior. And tbh writer intent doesnāt excuse much. Factually speaking that portrayal has been there since Timās early days,heās been consistently dismissive & disrespectful of his female peers and/or of their wishes and agency. Itās part of him & his history.
Itās not incoherent with his character eitherā Tim has always been intended to represent a normal boy/teen (dude was legit marketed around the fact that heās relatable). Itās not baffling or coming out of nowhere that a random teen just so happened to have internalized sexism. Itās pretty damn common, even. Itās not like Tim being sexist was a brutal turnaround that contradicted what makes the core of his character to the point of making him unrecognizable (*cough* Taliaās current characterization *cough*).
Hope this explains that.
Thanks for the asks!
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