#that it existed until i tried to complete the pokédex

[front-facing-pokemon]

[bellafragolina]

Been thinking about the Sinnoh’s past. It is confirmed there are multiple timelines, Dialga/Celebi can send someone to the past to change an event without space-time colapsing, and that Rei/Akari are always exist in Hisui. So I thought about what the timeline looked like before Arceus sent someone to the past.

Most likely the power boosting lightening would have still struck our powerful Noble Pokemon. People were still injured by the frenzies, but I have a feeling Rei/Akari (or even both) stepped up to help Professor Laventon’s balm strategy. It probably took more time to develop than the Divine Intervention route since they are less aware of the Nobles’ protective characters. Might have been aiming more to knock them out than originally… The Nobles are still quelled though it takes teams of people to bring them down enough to snap back to their senses.

Dunno if Rei/Akari would gain the Rideable Mons’ favor. I imagine nobody got kicked out of Jubilife cause it was normal people who tried to help the situation. Now, what I believe differs from our confrontation is that I don’t think there was any origin ore to make pokeballs with. The fact it exists honestly seems like an item Arceus added into the universe to help us catch the berserk Legendaries in their origin forms. What I think happened is that the Alpha Pokémon itself had to step in to stop Dialga and Palkia from ripping apart space-time.

Now. The fact the anime specials don’t seem to mention either clan makes me think their respective leaders missed their chance to see. Arceus arrival might have made the Diamond and Pearl clan disband from there being only one true “Almighty Sinnoh” as far as they know. How I explain Volo is that Arceus might have smited the arrogant human—once again banishing Giratina and possibly making Volo immortal. (Yes I like the immortal and mysterious backpacker Volo headcanons.)

I am unsure about what happens in the long run from this possible appearance. We probably still get Distortions for the next several years until it dies down. Pokédex continues to progress, but due to there still being a divide Laventon’s original version never sees true completion. It still helps to inspire the digital dexes we see nowadays… Maybe Arceus realizes many years later after seeing young kids save the world that humans can take care of themselves. But wonders about the “what if’s”.

“What if my creations had this level of bonding during that crisis?” Or something along those lines. It has changed the timeline before so this was plausible enough to put into action.

(Just some thoughts about what happened for us to have the stories about Hisui.)

This is so amazing, and I’m very impressed, because all of this sounds plausible and it makes sense. Well done, lovely!

I agree with the future not changing too terribly, but the Pokédex not being entirely complete and the clans never coming together and realizing that their sinnohs are two separate Pokémon

This would be a wonderful fic idea, writing about whichever protagonist, not the player character, working with everyone to fix everything without divine intervention, and then at the end maybe Arceus being like “you know what? we can do better” and Volo being immortal and then knowledgeable of the reset? Or maybe not, it’s all a fun idea!!

Bravo, lovely!

~Renee

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Across Space, Time and Dreams (ASTaD) (Ch. 6)

(Blankshippers DNI)

(Please refer to beginning of chapter 1 post for complete list of CWs/TWs)

(This chapter's illustrations by me! I TRIED TO DO A SINGLE BIG ONE, ENDED UP DOING THREE...NEVER AGAIN...)

(Read it on Ao3 here!)

(Reblogs are appreciated!)

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Chapter 6

Ingo, Akari and Rei had decided to begin their investigation with this; what time frame did Ingo (and Akari) come from? Ingo and Akari agreed their time frames must've been the same, as what they remembered seemed extremely similar, and they also must've been from some place in the future.

"Right now, people are just now beginning to better understand and co-exist with Pokémon.." Rei stated, "and you both have had marvelous skill regarding getting along with and understanding Pokémon from the very beginning of your time here."

"And from what both of us can remember, most people get along with Pokémon at least alright in our time," Akari continued, "so we obviously came from a time when people and Pokémon have advanced to coexist much easier with one another".

Ingo chimed in, "Not to mention the spread and advancing of Pokémon battling, and the possible technological advances. Both of those things are quite normal in our worlds, from what we can recall."

"Was your world super futuristic? In the far, far future? Like a bunch of new and super efficient technology all over the place?" Rei asked, "I've heard of stories like that. Like technology that is super complicated and cool."

Akari laughed, "No, I don't think we're from that far in the future,"

Ingo nodded, "Yes, Akari is right"

"And what about your birthplace?" Rei questioned, "Would you even be from this region in the future?"

That question was a more difficult one. Ingo did stick out, but that could simply be the time frame at play. Yet he felt as if his origins may not be in this land at all, however old or young it may be.

"I am not sure- although I feel like the answer is no, for some reason.." Ingo answered

"Well, surely you have some scraps of important memories you can maybe grasp." Rei suggested, "Those memories could be of your homeland!"

That was a good idea, Ingo thought, nodding in approval and thanks.

"What you told me in Wayward Cave," Akari said, "something about a Pokémon precious to you, that it wielded flames with mastery. And a man who looked like you. Who would battle with you and discuss Pokémon. Have you seen that species of Pokémon? Or anyone that resembles that man? Or even you?"

Ingo shook his head. "No, unfortunately."

Still, they'd need to try something.

They tried thing after thing. Flipping through the Pokédex to look at the fire-type Pokémon.

Asking both the travelers and Hisui people about things. Even just going down to smaller details about Hisui.

Nothing felt right.

Until they got onto the subject of language.

"I heard that Ingo spoke another language better than Hisuiun when he had first appeared in Hisui." Rei said, "Do you remember what that language is, Ingo?"

Ingo nodded, "Galarian, although being from Galar doesn't necessarily ring any bells…"

"Maybe you just need to know a few things about Galar, then!" Akari suggested. She turned to Rei and smiled, "And we have just the person to ask!"

"Oh yeah!" Rei replied, "Professor Laventon!"

Soon enough, the three individuals were rushing through the Galaxy Hall and to Professor Laventon's office.

"Professor!" Rei called out, "We have something important to ask you!"

Professor Laventon was scribbling in the Pokédex, then stopping, raising his head to look at his doorway. He smiled seeing his visitors, closing the Pokédex and setting the pen down before standing up to greet them.

"Rei, Akari, Ingo!" He spoke, "How lovely it is to see you all! What brings you three here?"

"We need help with something regarding Ingo's memories!" Rei announced, "We're trying to figure out where he's from, and we were having trouble, but we realized that his native language is Galarian, so we thought maybe you could help out!"

"Oh, of course!" Professor Laventon replied, "So you think maybe we could help pinpoint where Ingo is from via his native language?"

The three others nodded

"Well, I do remember that Ingo definitely spoke Galarian better than Hisuiun when he first arrived," The Professor explained, then shifting to speak Galarian as he turned to Ingo, "although when I spoke to Ingo in Galarian, and when he still does, he has peculiar accent."

"I do remember you telling me that, yes." Ingo replied, also in Galarian

"Woah!" Rei exclaimed, "That's Galarian, right?"

"Indeed it is, my boy!" Laventon answered, shifting back to Hisuiun, "And as I just told Ingo, when he speaks Galarian, he has an accent different from my own, meaning he's likely not from Galar."

Akari frowned, "Well if he's not from Galar, where would he be from?"

"Well, I don't know every region in and out. There are multiple regions where Galarian is the prime language, although different regions tend to have different accents, or dialects." Professor Laventon explained, "Ingo here seems to have the 'Unovaian' accent and dialect of Galarian, or in other words, the dialect of Galarian spoken in the region of Unova!"

Unova.

Rei and Akari looked at Ingo, who now seemed a bit surprised.

"Does Unova ring any bells, Ingo?" Akari asked.

"I…I think it does!" Ingo exclaimed.

Rei beamed, "Really? Wow! You should go there, Ingo! You could find out a lot!"

Ingo chuckled, "Ah, well, I think I need to digest this piece of information first."

"Oh! Right, hehe," Rei nodded

"Professor Laventon, do you have any information on any Pokémon from Unova?" Akari asked

Laventon shook his head, "I'm afraid not. I apologize for that."

"It's quite alright, you've already helped quite a bit!" Ingo replied

"Hey, I know it's getting late, but I have one last idea!" Rei announced

"What is it?" Akari questioned

"Well, we've been getting some visitors from other regions lately. Maybe some of them could be from Unova, and they could help confirm if you're really from the future!"

"Quite a good idea, Rei!" Laventon exclaimed, "What do you think, Ingo?"

"I think we should do it!" Ingo said after thinking for a moment, determined, "And, thank you for your help, Professor; we're all very grateful"

"I'm glad I was able to be of help!" The Professor said, "Good luck on your investigation!"

And as they said goodbye to one another, Ingo felt a warm feeling. Maybe he really would get answers.

It wasn't hard to find Unovaian travelers. Their Hisuiun wasn't the greatest, and they tended to speak Galarian among themselves.

"What's Unova like?" Akari asked one traveler, "Does my friend here ring any bells?"

The traveler studied Ingo for a moment before speaking,

"Not really," They replied, "but I like this fellow. He seems like he'd inspire something. Unova is quite advanced and lively. More cities."

They didn't get much else from the travelers, but they said something about "truths" and "ideals". That resonated with Ingo.

"I feel like I'm remembering some of what I knew about future Unova.." Akari stated

"May you tell us?" Ingo requested

Akari nodded, "It's quite technologically advanced and lively. There's lots of battle there. It has strange, efficient systems of transportation.."

"Advanced and lively.." Ingo echoed, "battle..strange, efficient systems of transportation…I don't understand why, but these concepts all seem so familiar.."

"I don't think we should have to worry too much," Akari exclaimed, "Dialga and Palkia should at least have a general idea of where to send you, buuut better safe than sorry."

Rei nodded, "If we give Dialga and Palkia the information we've found out, they'll almost certainly be able to send Ingo to the right place and time, yes?"

Akari nodded. Ingo tipped his hat, smiling slightly, "This all has been very helpful. I think I just need a bit of time by myself to think things through, maybe remember a thing or two. Thank you both sincerely for all your help!"

Both Akari and Rei nodded, "Of course! We'll be here with Dialga and Palkia if and when you decide to try to go anywhere!"

Ingo still smiled, nodding, before turning and walking to the exit of the village.

The future. Unova. It all seemed right, but he'd have to think about all of this more.

But he was eternally grateful that they had gotten closer to his origins– maybe this really could work.

Chapter 5

Chapter 7

[tumblunni]

Random Long Post About Charon!

This is random, but I feel like fans often don’t take into consideration what Professor Rowan says during the Rotom event. I think his words actually make it very clear that Charon was the kid who wrote the diary and shines some light on Charon’s motivation for acting like a jerk to Rotom. I’ll explain why I believe this:  “Ah, imagine finding you here! You must be eager to fill your Pokédex to be searching even here. What am I doing? I visit a professor I know in Eterna every so often. He tells me intriguing rumors of rare Pokémon sightings and such.” This part isn’t particularly relevant (though I do sort of wonder if the Professor Rowan visits is actually Charon himself), but this next part definitely is: “A Pokémon that slips into electric appliances, you say… Hmm… That is somewhat off from what I’ve heard about it. Hmm… This is what I’ve heard. Long ago, there was a Pokémon that merged with a toy robot. Should that Pokémon be recognized as a new species or not… Debates over the issue were about to start when they were rendered moot. The very topic of discussion–the Pokémon-infused robot–disappeared…” Okay, so the first thing that is really important to note here is that Rowan doesn’t have the exact same information as the player. This means Charon has done research that he was keeping to himself, and fits in with Charon writing that he wants his Rotom research to be a “secret.” But we also learn here that other scientists were at least introduced to Rotom somehow despite this.  Now, as for the “topic of discussion… disappeared” part–because Charon’s lab is secret, these words don’t refer to Rotom leaving the lab. Instead, they must refer to Charon putting it in that lab to keep it a secret. This might seem odd at first–why would Rotom have been introduced to scientists in the first place at all then…? But I actually think this all makes sense. Here’s a stripped-down version of the backstory based on all these details: –Charon obtains information about Rotom “by pure chance,” as he writes in the journal we know for a fact is his. –Other researchers somehow knew about it and were going to start debates about it. –Rotom is locked away in the lab by Charon so that he would get all the credit for describing it.  –Rotom eventually leaves the lab.  This still haves a lot to be desired. Is Charon the same person who found Rotom as a child? It seems that way, since the speech patterns and diction are the same. But then how and why did other researchers learn about Rotom in the first place? Why did Charon want all the credit only after this happened? Here is where analyzing Charon’s character makes everything clear.  Obviously, Charon is a greedy person. Specifically, he seems to be someone who is pragmatic to the point of being a cynical jerk. He desires money for himself and his team, but we know from his dialogue that it’s because he thinks people can’t achieve anything without it. We can also see that Charon has a high opinion of himself (he says so), but it also seems like he may have a low opinion of himself at the same time. The fact that he keeps trying to assert his self-worth, brag, and explain that he has a place in Team Galactic every time he speaks in-game hints at this. Also, Charon’s own co-workers hate him. Considering his plan at the end of the game, we know that if Charon were presented with a way to make himself known to all, he would do everything he could to make that happen. He also at one point says “I like seeing children try their best,” which sounds a bit weird out-of-context, but makes perfect sense if the Rotom kid’s childhood was his.  Putting together all of the information I’ve discussed, here is my interpretation, applying Occam’s Razor the whole way through, of the story behind the Rotom event:  –Charon came across information about Rotom “by pure chance.” How? When it came out of a lawnmower in his childhood. –At some point, Charon was excited to tell everyone about Rotom. They were probably still close friends at this point.  –Other researchers were going to start debates on Rotom after Charon gave them some information about it. –Because of Charon’s greed, desire to belong, and selfishness, he became possessive and wanted to get “all the credit.” He freaked out and locked Rotom away in his secret lab. –Everyone was confused because it had disappeared, and debates couldn’t continue.  –Rotom was upset and tired of being stuck in the lab and left. I’m almost certain this is the story the writers intended.

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Bunni’s comments! (is it a tad awkward that you keep sending these as submissions? have you thought about posting your thoughts on your own blog and then I could reblog them? sorry to make you go to all this trouble!)

REALLY LONG THOUGHTS BELOW THE CUT:

This is a really well reasoned theory!! I dunno if we’ll ever really be able to know what story the writers intended until we actually get this plotline expanded in a remake HINT HINT NINTENDO But it does definately seem to me that Charon = kid who had that cute backstory in that journal literally in Charon’s lab written like Charon talks and nobody else does. That seems very much like the simplest option to me, and it makes this character so much more well-developed, yet its kinda not a popuar theory.. alas... I don’t completely follow this exact sequence of events in my headcanons but I do think it fits perfectly with everything we know so far. You’re so good at analysis!!

Personally I think maybe people forget about Rowan’s few sentences at the start of the event... just cos the event is really hard to find. Practically nobody actually played this thing, I certainly never got a chance to do it until a decade later when i was able to emulate + use gamesharks. So before that I got my information secondhand through script-dumps and lets play videos, and a lot of people seem to leave out the rowan bit. A lot of people actually leave out the diary too! It seems even people who actually played the event didnt realise it was there, just grabbed their new rotom form and left. Alas poor Charon, ignored even in a meta sense! Also on Bulbapedia the script-dumps are organized weird. The actual page for the event and the Rotom Room as an area don’t contain it, its just got the diary part and the rowan part cut off separate and put on charon and rowan’s pages respectively.

Anyway, my personal thoughts + alternate interpretation to add to this!

To me it didnt sound like someone else discovered a rotom and tried to start these debates, then Charon freaked out at the competition and became paranoid. To me it sounded like Rowan was talking about someone (Charon) who started a debate and then suddenly vanished on the day it was going to take place. i dunno, just the way it was phrased seemed to come off like this was some relative unknown who popped up with this information about rotom, and then everyone assembled to hear him out. Cos specifically the ONLY information Rowan knows is that its ‘a pokemon that can possess a toy robot’, you’d think if multiple scientists were debating the existence of rotom for a long time then they’d have more info than that, info that isnt super specific to Charon’s situation. Or, at least, you’d think that if they were still researching rotom AFTER this one failed conference, they would have gained more info by now? I dunno, its hard to explain what I mean.

So, the basis for all my deductions is this interpretation that Charon (at least for that moment) had decided his rotom research was finished and wanted to reveal it. For me, the big question is... why didnt he?

WHY would Charon not want to boast about his discovery in this ‘debate about rotom’? We know at least one famous pokemon professor was gonna be there! Charon’s whole thing is (supposedly) wanting to become famous cos of rotom, absolutely no attatchment to it except as a revenue source, yep totally, no lies here. So you’d think that joining in a big debate with a bunch of high ranking scientists and making his great reveal would be.. like.. exactly what he wanted?? Why did it not happen?? 

My interpretation of this is kind of a mushy one linked to my general irrational decision that this man is potentially redeemable and totally has a soul. Alas, why can I never leave the grampademption train! I think that maybe this was some sort of major moment where the good and bad sides of his character clashed. REALLY CLASHED. He’s spent so many years trying to lock off himself into two mutually conflicting boxes, the innocent kid who sees this pokemon as a friend and the bitter cynical old bastard who wants to become famous off it. And now he has to choose, and it led to a complete mental breakdown! He initially chose money over rotom, he was gonna go ahead with the presentation. But then his better side won out and he cancelled it at the last second. He got cold feet, being scared of losing his best friend. Maybe he was actually going so far as to do some sort of morally repugnant deal, he was gonna sell rotom off to the highest bidder and never see it again? Or it’d have to be dissected as the first specemin of a new species, or locked up forever and experimented upon? Or maybe its just simply.. when you only have one friend in the world you kinda wonder if they’d want to keep you around if they found another friend. Maybe he thought rotom only needed him because of his research, maybe he thought it would become just as greedy as him if it got the chance? Maybe he thought that it would leave him if he let anyone else know it existed, which is what led to his growing paranoia and decision that his research was perpetually ‘not done yet’. (Cos seriously, what you see of his lab and stuff seems pretty finished???)

So that’s my interpretation of why he and rotom ‘vanished’ at that point, but then there’s the question of how they ended up separated. this is now going into complete fanfic territory, I dont really have evidence for any of it. In my image of how this whole scene would go down, mid-freakout Charon would have snapped at rotom and it led to an argument that ultimately resulted in like... triple decker bonus back of Regrettable Decisions. Charon’s been shown to kinda dig himself further into his own grave whenever his plans go wrong. So here we go, scene is set with Charon suddenly grabbing everything and running the fuck out the fire exit, five seconds before the meeting is about to start. From rotom’s perspective, it has NO IDEA what is going on, it just listens when he says to get in the pokeball. And now we have Charon in the position of having NO CLUE how to explain this all when he opens that pokeball again, he’d never just be honest about his feelings. Hell, he’s such an emotionally stunted guy wrapped up in his own neuroses, i don’t know if he’d even be honest about his feelings to HIMSELF! He just sitting here having a panic attack like ‘why did i do that?? I was about to become rich??’ Giant neon sign flies overhead saying ‘YOU HAVE EMOTIONS’, he ignores it. I figure he’d also exaggerate it in his head and destroy his entire scientific career just because he thinks he’s embarassed himself too much to go back. And he’s decided that this somehow proves that being a good person will only ruin all your dreams, and you have to be as bitter as possible to succeed. this is where he went from a dubious guy who occasionally breaks the law to ‘well I’d better jump off the slippery slope forever and join a space based evil team, literally just because of One Social Anxiety Moment’. (Relateable, amirite?) And ironically everyone he met that day is literally just thinking ‘oh god what happened to that guy, is he okay?’ and would have totally understood if he just explained his damn self... So all his panic comes to a head and he decides to blame rotom rather than actually do some in-depth analysis of his own life choices. I feel bad because I don’t want to hurt my friend?? I personally value friends higher than money? No, nonsense, you’ve somehow CORRUPTED ME! How could you do this, don’t you know how important that meeting was? WAS THIS YOUR PLAN ALL ALONG??? It was my ONE CHANCE! (apparantly, according to me)

So even though he just ran away because he didn’t want to lose rotom.... he throws away rotom. (just imagine the internal screaming this man must have experienced for the next twenty years)

It was a stupid, STUPID decision based on misdirected anger that he should have been aiming at himself. Nope, can’t believe that the great charon might have made a mistake, that friendship might indeed be a thing that exists in your dried up old heart. Instead it has just proven that friendship = weakness! And now because of this you’ve turned a salvageable situation into the worst disaster possible, yet again. (Man, I feel like Charon can barely survive without rotom. Its not just his conscience but a large chunk of his common sense...)

And rotom of course has NO IDEA why its suddenly been abandoned, so it probably was a really depressing time sitting alone in its trainer’s old house, hoping he’ll eventually come back so you can apologise for something that you don’t even know what it is... And at the same time we have Charon freaking the fuck out for decades, too caught up in his own neuroses to make the very simple decision of just turning around and walking back to where he left that pokeball. And even if he got there, what would he even say? Would he actually have the balls to admit he was wrong, or would he make excuses? ‘Oh, I was just too busy to visit, so much work to do, don’t make a mountain out of a molehill’ In his darkest moments he even considers that maybe he’s wrong to regret this decision at all. ‘But I did the right thing, I don’t need rotom, I don’t need anyone, I have to sacrifice everything to be famous...’ He’s probably even managed to get all the way to the door of the old chateau before running away yet again, leaving rotom thinking it just imagined seeing him outside the window :( Its like in his past when he startled rotom and it thought it had hurt him, but this is if he didn’t chase after it and just left time frozen on that moment. Well, he wishes it was, that he could just choose any second to take back his decision and everything would go back to normal. Never that easy, though...

I APOLOGISE FOR OVERLY LONG POORLY EXPLAINED FANFIC THOUGHTS WHILE I AM SLEEP DEPRIVED ok i need to go cry over dumb grandpas and then probably get some damn rest

oh wait one last random headcanon! i think that charon’s secret lab in team galactic eterna building is actually something he only built after the big moment of abandoning his pokemon Why does Charon have a rotom lab here if he doesnt have a rotom anymore? sure it could just mean he lost his rotom relatively recently, but since my fanfic idea places it earlier in the timeline I like to think that maybe he’s made this room in case he ever gets rotom back. He made a bunch of form-machines even better than the old ones, and decorated the place all fancy, and hopes that maybe it could be at least a small apology for all the suffering he’s put his friend through. Though he doesnt understand that rotom isnt as superficial as he is, so he cant just buy back its love... He just sits in there are rereads his journal whenever he gets nostalgic, he hasnt actually done any science in there for years. Also, it would maybe explain the duplicate rotom lab in silph co in HGSS? that’s the original, and he’s tried to make his new galactic lab as similar as possible because of how guilty he feels, and how he wants to just escape that guilt by turning back time instead of actually saying sorry.

A big thing I always struggle with in writing redemptiony fics is whether I’m lessening a character’s evil and forgiving them too easily and all. I think this series of events would definately still qualify as A Total Dick Move, even if its one that actually has a reason to it other than just ‘i’m evil’, and hurt himself as much as he hurt rotom. And man its so frustrating, seriously I’m here like ‘DUDE STOP IGNORING YOUR EPIPHANIES, JUST GO APOLOGIZE’ yet I also know that if I make him do it immediately and have everything resolved without conflict it’ll be so much less of a believeable redemption arc :P so yeah believe me i still wanna slap charon just as much as everyone who hates charon does, just for different reasons XD Also he needs a hug too. But he needs to do a lot of development before he could actually earn it!