#terfs have been around for ages and feminism and queer rights activism werent always the best for intersectionality
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thesaviorofmisbehavior · 6 years ago
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@neonbaebae Newsflash: the queer community is the community of people who identify with queer. If someone doesn’t identify as queer, they’re not included in that statement.
And it’s not like “the gay community” or “the lgbt community” are inclusive statements either. Plenty of people are uncomfortable with the “gay community” because that’s the slur they had used against them when they were bullied. Plenty of people have spoken about this. Nobody is walking around saying “omg don’t say g*y it’s a slur sweety you might trigger someone.” (Btw I’m included in the group of people uncomfortable with “gay” as an umbrella term, because of bullying and a variety of other reasons.) The acronym isn’t great either. I mean it takes about two seconds to find a post where someone is getting screamed at because they included “too many” letters that “don’t actually belong” or whatever bullshit, or because the letters were in the wrong order, or what have you. And at the end of the day “lgbt” is NOT ENOUGH. It’s wildly unrepresentative of a LARGE portion of the community. I won’t call it the gay community because “gay” was used to bully, harass and exclude both me and my partner by straight people AND other people with marginalized sexual and gender identities. And I refuse to actively exclude anyone by using an acronym that’s not representative of the community. So tell me why I should just accept terms for a community that make me uncomfortable, but anti queer folks shouldn’t.
Also, you just sound deliberately obtuse when you say “that’s how anybody could have interpreted it.” I specifically said “people who identify with” I said nothing about the community as a whole. And nobody is walking around saying “the dyke community” of “the fag community.” That’s not what the discourse is about. This post is CLEARLY about personal identities, you just saw “queer” and got mad because someone is using a word for themself that you don’t like.
Last, I find it REALLY interesting that you got on my case about using queer without addressing the fact that the whole rhetoric comes for terf/radfem/exclusionary rhetoric. Makes it seem like your ok with the group of people who perpetuate intracommunity harassment and aggression, but not the part of the community that just wants to be LEFT THE FUCK ALONE ABOUT A WORD THEY USE TO PERSONALLY IDENTIFY THEMSELSVES.
I actually hate people who will openly identify with/use a slur (dyke, fag, etc) and then get on their high horse about “queer”
Like stfu that shit is straight out of terf, radfem, truscum and exclusionist rhetoric. It’s all about shunning people who don’t fit neatly into some box YOU decided on, and the resurgence of this discourse (which is almost nonexistent in offline queer spaces) springs out of a movement started by radfems ages ago, and it puts the power of an ugly word back into the hands of our oppressors.
If you think you have the right to reclaim a messy, complicated word without people censoring you, DONT YOU DARE COME DOWN ON SOMEONE ELSE FOR THE SAME THING
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