#tbh when i made that poll on patreon
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!!!! OMG A PERSONAL ATTACK, I LOVE IT!!!!!
BUST OUT THAT FINAL ASSIGMMENT, YOU'VE GOT THIS! A REWARD IS WAITING ON PATREON FOR YOU!!!!!
AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME ON PATREON!!!!
#patreon asks#inbox#tbh when i made that poll on patreon#about gyu or cheol as an alpha#i was SO happy when ya'll picked cheol#it was a LANDSLIDE#and i was like you know what YES#THIS IS WHAT WE ALL WANT#it's a crazy fic#and i gotta say#the bonus might be even better than the actual fic 👀
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about to plug away more on some comms now but this month's base wips are up for a vote now on patreon! this month ended up being fluffy shrimps and i had fun coming up with the ideas 83c
#not the species though i didn't even know that was a thing when i made the initial poll#and i think mine are distinct enough to not get yelled at abt it i just wanted to draw shimps that were furry#cuz i was inspired by the super cute fluffy buggies that another artist i follow draws 83 !!#anyways!!#obligatory ->#self promoting tag#patreon plug#i get kinda nervous posting stuff like this tbh bc i don't want to be annoying about it#esp bc i am MORE than grateful for all the support i get just liking and reblogging my stuff!!!#but i get excited to share the things i do on there so in case people are interested!! plus it helps me be able to do more stuff!!#so if you read my tags ever and you like my art but get annoyed by stuff like this nd wanna avoid seeing it#i almost always tag it w/ self promoting tag#and patreon stuff w/ patreon plug#so u can block it that's understandable!#(edit cuz i just wanted to clarify:#I found out abt them when i was looking up shrimp ocs for extra insp bc i already knew how i wanted to do them BUT#wanted to see how other ppl did the shell portion of the back area cuz that was tricky to decide for me if i wanted to include it or not#so i saw them and went 'ah whoops oh well mine's different and it's not a species just a lil fluffy shrimp beastie')
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echo and... gavin??
ok so this is incredibly outlandish and doesn’t really have a huge amount of supporting evidence in canon that isn’t entirely circumstantial, but i think it’s cool and a fun idea to play with - plus, i have a wip based on this premise and i wanna lay the groundwork for that bc it’s a pretty mad concept if you’re not expecting it lol
so, i think about the imperium a lot - probably more than is normal or healthy - and i especially like to think about that one meme that erik posted on patreon just in the wake of cataclysm:
now, in all seriousness, it’s just a low quality meme that was probably made in about 5 minutes and just for fun, so i doubt it has any actual meaning - but i would like to propose a world where this meme is actually one of the most significant lore drops we’ve had yet!
in short, just go with me for a minute here - i would like to propose a world where gavin and echo are the same person.
we tend to treat a lot of these characters like real people with free will and agency, but they’re not - both on a meta level and inside the narrative itself. there’s a creator, and a larger narrative at play! even from echo’s very first introduction, he makes it clear that he exists as an independent, self-aware character - he’s emphatically NOT an impartial narrator, and while he certainly implies that he’s omnipotent and omniscient, it’s not clear whether he actually is, or where the real extent of his abilities and knowledge lies.
interestingly, he’s also both aware of AND separate from ‘Redacted’ (i.e. erik, canonising himself within his own universe) - he’s highly conscious that the events taking place aren’t real, and that he has some degree of control over the narrative. presumably, echo and ‘Redacted’ exist on the same level of reality in this universe - i.e. outside of it, but aware of what’s going on in there and able to change it.
ok, cool, but what does this have to do with gavin?
also, it’s a little bit weak, but go back and have a listen to echo’s playlist - don’t you think he speaks a lot like gavin (specifically early gavin, when he’s still all arrogant and whatever)? maybe this is just because they’re both being written by the same person, and their characters are just quite similar, but the resemblance is definitely there. circumstantial evidence, yes, but it’s worth mentioning.
to be honest, echo’s actually a little bit… strange?? when it comes to gavin?? he talks about him quite weirdly - the most obvious example for me is in ‘The Deal’, where he says:
it’s always struck me as a bit strange that echo SPECIFICALLY chooses gavin and fl to cross over with ivan and baby - and yes, i realise that there was probably an irl reason for this, but just go with it a bit longer! it’s likely that it was just pragmatism on erik’s part, of needing a storyline that could plausibly overlap with sadism’s hold, although maybe if the outcome of the poll had been different maybe this could have freed up fl to go out with damien as was the original plan… anyway, i digress.
hold onto that thought for a minute, and we’ll come back to the ‘why did echo choose gavin and fl?’ idea in a second.
it’s no secret that, if things continue as they are, freelancer is going to die - they are painfully, deeply human, and tbh they’ve survived some pretty long odds already! the confrontation with vega in their bedroom, the fight with vega in their living room, the inversion (and if you count the imperium, the takeover of - and escape from - the imperial academy)... all of these situations had the enormous potential to go horribly, horribly wrong, and freelancer could EASILY have died at any of those points!
if we exclude vega and fl’s first meeting (bc all things considered, vega was being cruel but not actually all that hostile in that interaction), gavin is almost always the one to save them - to step in and protect fl from whatever threats arose.
combine that with our idea from before - i’m suggesting that a world exists where freelancer dies at one of those points, or maybe even for an entirely unrelated reason that we don’t know about. maybe’s it’s vega in their living room, or the shade that killed xavier killing them too (i’ll come back to this later), or maybe it’s just that their natural lifespan comes peacefully to an end. they die, and that’s that.
except it’s not just that - because gavin’s not having it. it’s no secret, how much he loves freelancer, and i think he has the potential to do absolutely ANYTHING to stop them dying.
that anything, i suggest, is becoming echo.
this establishes the world that we’re hearing now - the universe that we’re familiar with is actually the second attempt. perhaps what we’re hearing are the delusions of a grieving demon, DESPERATE for a world where freelancer doesn’t have to die. or perhaps he finds a way to genuinely create a world where he makes the rules - maybe he finds his way to a world - ‘Redacted’’s (i.e. erik’s) world - where he can finally change things for good. maybe it’s time travel, or some sort of reset point, but whatever the case may be, he’s outside of it all now.
he couldn’t save his freelancer then, so he’ll do whatever he can to save them now - he’s walking them and this version of himself (whatever that might mean) through the life he had with his freelancer, just with a few… changes.
is he fully in control? no, that’s erik. but echo DOES control the imperium - and of everyone, it’s arguably vindemiator and freelancer who escape the horrors of that world the most successfully. they both survive RIDICULOUS odds, when you consider just how dangerous both of their situations are!
or, if you like, maybe echo’s not really in control of anything in the prime universe - maybe it’s erik steering the narrative but echo’s just able to hit the handbrake and make a few hasty edits whenever things look like they’re taking a turn for the worse. nothing earth-shattering, just changing a few minor details that keep freelancer safe (or even just alive).
in that vein, let’s come back to that point about xavier. this hc goes really well with the idea that fl is killed during the inversion, more specifically at the point just before gavin creates his ward. perhaps gavin can’t make that ward in time, and freelancer’s killed by the shade - so all that energy and power and hurt that OUR gavin pours into his ward from seeing xavier die? it’s that, but times a million if it’s freelancer who dies there - maybe that’s the moment where gavin manages to change things and step out of the bounds of the narrative. now, when we get to see it (i.e. in the versions of the audios that we know, which i’m calling here a ‘second attempt’), we’re given the character of xavier, who - apologies to the xavier nation - is essentially ballast, a human shield to stop the shade killing fl or gavin. for all intents and purposes, he’s a filler character with very little actually going for him - other than the fact that he dies during the inversion (and you can argue that even that is just to develop the characters of the DAMN crew a bit further). if we accept this hc, xavier is basically placed there by echo-gavin as one final, hail-mary barrier between freelancer and the shade who killed them the first time, to give gavin just enough time to put that ward together.
to take this a bit further, let’s return to the point about fl’s mortality for a bit. are we ever going to know their fate, or will this be left unresolved and up to our interpretation? will they settle for their human lifespan, or be turned into a vampire (willingly or otherwise)? will they die prematurely, or live out their natural lifespan, or find a way to artificially extend their life via some hitherto-unknown method?
placing this problem squarely in the context of the echo-is-gavin hc, i would love to see a world where echo finds some way - any way - to bend the rules of this universe, and to change freelancer or gavin in some way that they might be able to be together for the rest of both of their natural lives, however long or short that may be.
it strikes me as very interesting that when a’xerahn accidentally makes vampires, he’s searching for a way to create ‘a more manageable form of Concubus’ - of which incubi are a subset. is this just a choice that erik’s made either at random or because of the historical and cultural associations between sex and vampires and blood and all that? probably, yeah. but it’s especially interesting because it might imply that concubi are the easiest type of demon to convert humans to/from - which would then come with a whole HOST of implications for gavin and fl!
to be entirely honest, this is a completely off-the-wall hc that will almost certainly not come true - but it’s certainly fun to think about! basically i just want gavin and fl to be happy and in love and together forever, and i’ll come up with whatever hcs i like to make that happen lol
#redacted asmr#redacted audio#redacted gavin#redacted freelancer#redacted echo#this is totally ludicrous but it's really fun lol#absolute crack but i take it way too seriously as usual lmao#i have a wip that's all about this and i think this might be necessary to set that up#bc otherwise i just sound totally crazy#batten down the hatches ginger's theorising again
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Patreon Update...?
So, I’ve put this off.... far too long. I bet some of you didn’t even know I had a patreon, haha....
but, tbh, I don’t know that a full patreon is something I can really run, at least with my life as it is currently. I’ve made a post going into a bit more detail over there, with a poll to help me decide what to do next.
I really appreciate all the support folks have given me, even when I’ve dropped the ball--i’m honestly surprised anyone’s still subscribed. but having gotten a couple new subscriptions in the last week or so, I knew I couldn’t leave the issue any longer. definitely check out the post on patreon, and I’ll keep folks appraised of what I eventually decide.
#undertalethingem updates#i was.... never really very good at keeping up with it >>;;#but idk if i should give up on it completely...#I can only handle so much on my plate and currently there is. a lot =u=;
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hey mcnuggy!! im a really small artist who just started a patreon to try and raise money for some important things (emergency fund incase i get kicked out, fund to afford a better tablet so i can persue art post-secondary, etc) and so far i only have one pledger. what are some ways i can attract more patrons? :0 i wont plug it here unless you specifically give permission, but anything helps!
I would be happy to share your patreon if you like!!! Tbh i’m still learning and don’t have as much experience with patreon compared to other creatives who have hundreds of supporters ;w; but here’s what i’ve seen and done that has helped!
(What can YOU provide) specifically, what do you have to offer that others don’t? I know I can draw daily and thus can post 5-7 times a week! so I can provide a lot of content without any extreme changes to my schedule! I can draw adult content, and have some bit of industry experience to share! Maybe you make paper dolls, or have your own unique characters and story, or make custom beanies, or even just have a super specific art style that no one else has etc.! This can also be small stuff too such as creating incentive with tiers! (ex: tier 10$ supporters get a free sketch commission, tier 20$ get to help you pick a theme for a monthly comic, stuff like that!)
(Advertising) don’t be afraid to advertise yourself and what you have to offer! I’m still shocked when it works, but it really is just as simple as posting a close up sneak peak of something you’re sharing on patreon to get people interested! not sfw content always works the best for this, but it can be anything that gets people intrigued such as a cool project or unique content that can’t be seen elsewhere.
(Make your supporters feel like they’re a part of something) This can mean having polls, letting them make requests while non supporters can’t, letting them vote on potential ideas or projects you will have in the future, I even change the kind of content I indulge in and post if i see supporters gravitating towards it (ex: making more not sfw taz content cause not many people do it so ya know 😌✌️)
(Create excitement!) This can be announcing big projects and showing behind the scenes to your patreons, or actively engaging with your supporters through messages and comments! I personally really like doing my monthly patreon recaps that I share because it creates excitement, makes me feel good about all the progress and work i’ve made, AND it’s advertising my patreon, so it’s really helpful!! ;w;
(Thank your patreons) THANK THEM!!! every chance you get!!!! on every advertisement post, on random art posts!! thank them!!!!!! ;w; it’s what they deserve 💕
again, i’m still learning how to expand my patreon and improve but this is some of what i’ve seen others do as well as what has worked for me 🥺💕, yeah!!!!
hope this helps!!!!!
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I voted no on your poll bc I thought you wouldn't have the money to upgrade your website and it would put you in more debt. I know what you are going through and why you need the money, I just didn't want things to get worse for you by doing an upgraded website. I hate adfly etc but there are safe ways to work around it that I use so it doesn't bother me tbh. Also I used to be a patreon but had some financial issues I had to back out. I am sorry. 💜
I understand and appreciate that you care about me, I'm very happy to know that someone cares if I'm okay.
I thought of that too. But by my calculations the ad money will "cover" the expenses, and I will also keep an alternate link with Shorte.st so that those who want can help me even more can do. And I also thought of putting a goal in Ko-Fi so that anyone who wants and can help donate any amount to help me pay.
Let's say that the site plus Shorte.st earn 10 dollars in total, taking the transfer fees and everything else that I have to pay to the government/paypal will give the value of 36,63 reais decreasing the 17,77 reias will remain 18,86 reais, which is more than gain from the Shorte.st in most part of the months.
And as we all know many people stop downloading because of Shorte.st so I know this will increase the download rate, which in the end will be better. I preferred not to ask for help when I can not pay my bills, I preferred to try to get this money, either by advertising or by patreon, by my effort you know, after I asked for donations I was so humiliated and cursed that I decided that I would not do this anymore, and I'm trying the best I can to get what I need without asking for help.
And you don’t need to ask sorry honey, I totally understand and I’m very grateful for what you already made for me. And also thanks for answering.
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Hey guys! As I said in this recent post I’m setting up a patreon page!
This is more of a “hey this exists” post than “hey give me money” post because right now, the page’s purpose is to help me pay for the hosting+domain+security of our website ukagakadreamteam.com for in-house FTP hosting for our Ghost Devs with a nominal monthly fee.
There’s a poll regarding what content you want next in MVSans! Check that out!
I’m aiming to have $40/month ($300/year) to cover all the server-related costs. Anything beyond that is theoretically profit... I’m still checking with contributors who’ve ever been a link in the chain of MVSans’ production to make sure everyone’s okay with this possibility; tbh I’d be ecstatic to just break even. I got til the end of the month when payments occur to sort it all out. Patron benefits regarding actual ghost content are theoretical at this point...
But, how do you guys like the idea of an MVSans build modified just for you? For a commission fee, but add any feature you want to your own MVSans edition. Got any other ideas? Message me, I’d love to hear ‘em!
Since it isn’t the ghost itself, there’s a little peek into the WIP MVSans side-fic as a patrons-only post; everything from his POV. Here’s a quick snippet:
"welp. that sure was somethin'," he chuckled uneasily. Sans took a moment after his brother hung up, trying to gather his thoughts.
He didn’t like this. He didn’t like this one bit. You certainly knew about him and his brother, but he didn’t know you. You felt familiar but he’s never seen you or heard of you or this place in his life. This life, anyway. The only explanation is timelines. It has to be. You being able to bring him to this place made him suspect that you’re an anomaly of some kind. Now he only wondered which one.
It probably won’t be publishable for several months, heh. But I may post WIP stuff like that now and then. But heyyyy while we’re here I may as well show another neat thing I’ve added to the test and/or dev builds.
You’ll be able to exchange terrible pickup lines with Sans.
More neat stuff Friday, probably!
#Multiverse Sans#Ukagaka#Ukagaka Ghost#MVSans#ghost#patreon#support#Ukagaka Dream Team#community#funding#terrible pickup lines#pickup lines#the worst#flirting#FTP host
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