#tbh i'm not super happy with this piece cause i feel like it doesn't look enough like rae
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anastacialyart 2 years ago
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05.05.23 || and if anyone ever finds this diary, and reads it, and comes to the conclusion that i'm crazy? they'd be spot on.
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coffinsister 8 months ago
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Hi there!
I just wanted to let you know that I'd never heard of Saya no Uta until I saw you talking about it on my dash and I was like hey I'll look into that!! I had no idea what I was getting myself into, and it was definitely an experience. I've only played the route of choosing Saya and choosing to call Ryoko, so I still have to make the other choices to view all of the game's content, but I just wanted to come say thank you for giving me the second controversial piece of media I've been able to consume without my ocd throwing a bitchfit, because the whole story is fascinating from a psychological standpoint and that definitely drew me in.
I just wish the story was a little more 3D, I guess? Like the writing is overly descriptive of things it doesn't need to be descriptive of and underwhelming with the actual voiced dialogue. It's an extremely bizarre contrast. And from what little Japanese I've learn over the years out of SpInterest there are some translation points that aren't entirely accurate.
A big one is the fact that Saya speaks in third person which is a common cutesy mannerism for small children in Japanese media. In fact, she speaks super similarly to Maria Ushiromiya from Umineko ( complete with using 'uu!' for emphasis too ) which caused me to attach quickly to her for it. While it's true that this doesn't translate well into English, it does lose in translation just how young Saya really sounds while speaking. Because in Japanese she's saying things like 'Saya did this for Fuminori because Saya wants to be with Fuminori forever!' and it's getting translated as like 'I did this to make you happy. So you'll stay with me forever, right, Fuminori?' and those are two completely different tones. In fact, it's so overlooked from the English translation that this trope of hers isn't even mentioned on the The Song of Saya tvtropes page and that's wild to me.
Sorry, I didn't meant to turn this into a rant in your inbox asjklhd. Thank you for bringing this intriguing piece of media to my attention. 馃挅
Hiii, I'm so sorry for taking so long to reply to this ask but it was lovely getting it, so please don't apologize! We love getting long asks, and talking about our interests <3 And I'm really happy me basically screaming into the void about it, got you into it! That's great, that's exactly why I post about the things I like.
This was very interesting to read so thank you for sending it.
Side Thought: TV Troupes actually really really sucks for this kinda thing, it is widely innacurate with big media, and incredibly lacking for small media. So personally, I would not chuck TV Tropes lacking this as much to the (very bad, like super bad) official translation, as much as I would to the site just kinda sucking.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, the website is fun, like any other wiki is, I just have personal beef against it, do not mind me, old man yells at cloud.
The first route I finished was also the one with Ryouko, and tbh, in my opinion that's the best one, but obviously seeing the other endings gives a lot of extra information, and character depth, so I hope you play through them and enjoy them too.
And yeah, I feel you, I wish it was more 3D and that I could have cared more about the characters, the writing definetly feels too much like purple prose, and way too descriptive about meaningless things sometimes, while also compeltley glazing over others.
Also big big same about the translation, I already posted my long rant about it, but it's really such a shame, because Nitro+ is actually so good at conveying character through dialogue, like actually reading some of the VNs in Japanese is a whole new experience on its own
And exactly as you said, it would have been far easier to understand Saya is a literally preubecent child if the translation had shown how childishly she actually speaks, or another big one, we would have gotten to see more of just how badly Fuminori wants to show off in front of Saya and Yoh, if the translation had actually shown him avoiding being fully honest with Saya.
Like there's so so many moments in Japanese of him just going, Well, about that, you know... to Saya when she's asking him about their plans together, and he's very reluctant to ask her for help, even when he really needs it, until she blatantly offers it, and he takes it.
In the Official English version he literally just goes "Well, the thing, Saya is that I failed to kill Koji, any ideas about that?"
So much character missed there, I feel like also missing the honorifics isn't helpful or good, like Yoh calling Oumi, Oumi-chan makes them feel way way closer, than just college friends who hang out between classes. And it gives you a better sense that they care for each other.
My hot take about translations is that they shouldn't just accomodate to what's most familiar to the target audience, in this case USA people, it should just make the media more accesible. It isn't a failure of art if it is a bit of a struggle to engage with it, it's good to make an effort to try to understand foreign art, even when the way the text is presented, isn't super familiar or relatable to you.
This is basically what everybody who isn't from an English speaking country already does lol
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rockwgooglyeyes 3 months ago
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I'm continuing on this post via Blue's post just because I promised him I would give him a reply last night and now I am finally following up on that!! (also linking June's (@junebluues) oc rarepair post because some of my thoughts have been caused by that one too hehe)
I also thought innabeth was going to be canon until Toki came into the picture (inkibeth would be a total shitshow though lmao)
Caskyozure is something I will think about forevermore. especially in their modern band au because Cas wants to absolutely murder Azure while Kyo is trying to placate him by saying "I have two hands its fine!" but Cas wants both. Alas.
Azure/Cirrus because of the mizisua parallels, as Blue said, but also I get Hyunaluka vibes from them as well with the different personas that both have and the way that they present themselves.
Tbh I'm still thinking about Himei/Rose (@rosedeleca) . . . they compete and they "hate" each other but it feels kind of like the "you should be addicted to shutting the fuck up/you wanna fuck me so bad it makes you look stupid" meme. Like ultimately they seem like they would definitely get along, they have shared interests and they're personalities are compatible. Unfortunately it's a "hate at first sight" situation but maybe they're just being gay and they are too stupid to notice lmao
Moran/Tov (@geospiral & @ivanttakethis) and Tov/Himei makes me think many thoughts. Tov loves both of Moran and Himei dearly and I don't know if it is romantic but it could be~ maybe they should just kiss about it, you know?
I think Khoi/Tallis is adorable tbh, they both deserve good things and they legitimately enjoy each others company. Nontoxic doomed yaoi anyone? friends to lovers?? they are just normal guys?? no? why are you all leaving? 馃ズ
Aurilang and Veralang for Lang (@pwippy) ships tbh. Vera and Lang just seem like they would get along, they're both super chill and fatalistic (well deterministic in Lang's case) and they both have complicated feelings about death (Lang doesn't necessarily want to die but she expects to, Vera wants to die but at the same time, doesn't seem eager to?). Aurilang is just really cute, golden retriever/black cat pairing, Lang reining Aurien in and Aurien showing Lang the beautiful things in life again. Also Solang because they will make things explode together :D
Minnie (Min/Ellie) for antagonistic yuri (as June said, rivalry turned to kissing. bodybag by chloe moriondo vibes). Also Himei/Min because of their round and one of them being more normal/down to earth (Himei) opposed with Min who kind of needs someone to help ground her. Also Rose/Ellie because what June said about them was just super duper adorable and they seem like they'd work well together.
Saijae because Jae (@kofeedoggo) and Sai's relationship after the attack is just really sweet and heartwarming. I know Sai committed violence against Vera and Vera is my baby but that does not mean Sai doesn't deserve happiness!! he does deserve happiness 馃ズ
June mentioned Sai/Nyx too and I haven't been able to not think about that since I'm sorry *looks at you like a cry for help* they actually might be good for each other?? reluctant friends to lovers . . . and Nyx doesn't hate Sai in the first place even after the attack?? oughhhhghnnn
Others that I can think of including my ocs specifically? Nausi/Naz if they actually ended up having feelings for each other. Faisal/Zhuli (again, if they were anything more than friends), Yumi/Nene (if Yumi weren't in love w/Asahi, she might actually try to pursue Nene), Tallis/Nyx because they're pretty good friends and they would work well if they ever had something romantic, uh Himei/Dian? for the same reason as the previous.
anyways I think I've said my piece and I should shut up I hope none of these are unwelcome pairings for your guys' ocs, they don't really mean anything besides I think that a pair works well together (as friends/lovers/whatever) or I think they'd be cute together. Have a good day everyone!!
alnst oc rarepairs when
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thatasgardianprince 3 years ago
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underneath the cut of this post will talk briefly about pet/animal d*ath along with mental health issues
there aren't any triggering details as far as i can tell but i would still scroll away if you think this may trigger you or make you sad or anything like that. <33 this post is really more of me sharing a few happy memories with y'all :)
also, this is not an april fool's thing. i know it is april 1st, but i promise i would never ever joke about something like this.
So, a month ago today (March 1st), I lost my best and closet friend. Yes, she was an animal, a cat to be more specific, but that doesn't change the fact that she was literally the most amazing friend anyone could ask for.
She has been with me since I was really little, she's a childhood pet. I always thought I'd never lose her and that somehow, someway, we'd always be together.
She was with me when I was diagnosed with my chronic pain condition. She was with me when I decided to cut my hair real short. She was with me when I realized I was LGBTQ+. She was with me when I went through various hardships. She listened to my rants and to my dream goals for life. She made me laugh and smile and made me feel happy when no one and nothing else could. And yes she would listen to me gush about my various fictional and celebrity crushes. I swear she'd look at the pictures I showed her of them, maybe she was also interested in them as well lmao.
And I was with her through her hardships, as well. My parents and I helped her through any illnesses she developed through the course of her life. We were there with her when she needed us most, especially toward the end, like she always had with us.
She'd sometimes watch TV with me. Not very intently, of course, but every now and then something on the screen would catch her interest. The snow from an ambiance video seemed to be her favorite cause she'd usually always watch them for a couple seconds before laying down. Any other ambiance video, she completely ignored lmao.
She had her own side of my bed. Really it was our bed, considering how often she was adamant we share (I didn't mind). If I'd get up from my side though and she was awake, she'd speed over to my spot and make herself comfy.
Insert her unrelenting stare as I'd lay in bed, quietly signalling she wanted to use me as a cat bed. I'd just be like "...dude what's up???" *silent pondering* "Yeah, okay, c'mon dude." It was never super comfy for me tbh because of my chronic pain but I'd literally do anything for her (and I still would ofc) so if she wanted to use me as a pillow, I would put up with the pain.
Wrecking havoc in my room at 3 in the morning seemed to be her favorite pastime while everyone else was asleep. But I know she'd do it just for attention because as soon as I'd say her name, she'd look at me and run over.
She wasn't just my cat though. She was apart of our family and treated and saw us as such. And she will always be apart of our family, no matter what.
I cannot hold back my tears as I write this. It hurts to write "was" instead of "is". It hurts to think she'll never live to see me achieve the things I only dreamed of. It physically hurts to realize we'll never physically be a duo anymore. I often still find myself leaving my door slightly open, like I would always do when she was here so that she could come and go as she pleases. Now, it's more of a habit, but I never want to get rid of it.
She was literally the most amazing being in the whole entire universe, and she still is in whatever afterlife she found herself in. My pretty kitty grew wings and I'm sure they make her look even more badass than she already was.
I am a shattered piece of myself than I used to be. But, I am working on building myself up again into this new person. And she'll always be with me, even though she's not here physically anymore.
thanks for taking the time to read this, it means a lot. im not looking for attention, if that's what it seems like. i just wanted to share her life the best i could while still keeping some anonymity. <33
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