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Everybody’s talking about the Andur finale!
Damn, got by a lizard! That was so exciting! I can’t wait for Season 2; this Nomi seems like she’ll be a fantastic character!
“Tales of the Jedi, issue 3: The Saga of Nomi Sunrider, part 1.” Dark Horse. December 1, 1993. Writer: Tom Veitch. Penciller: Janine Johnston. Inker: Mike Barreiro. Letterer: Willie Schubert. Colorist: Pamela Rambo.
#star wars#star wars comics#andur sunrider#nomi sunrider#vima sunrider#a3do#quanto#rek#gude#skritch#sw ancient history#dark horse comics#tom veitch#janine johnston#1993#pure jedi content#star wars family#star wars spaceport#star wars moms#fashion decisions we support#alien#droids#leather jacket#star wars ghost
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I just remembered a minor detail and it's time to fixate on it.
So when the Jedi confront Qimir in the apothecary he immediately starts acting like a dumbass and falling over himself and being squirrely, talking himself out of it.
But one thing he says is 'please don't do that Jedi mind wipe thing' which is. Fascinating. Like where did he get that from. We've seen Yord threaten to do a Jedi mind trick once, which scared everybody enough that he didn't even have to actually do it. People are scared of the Jedi.
But as far as I remember, there's no other indications of mind fuckery except maybe when Mae says "they've brainwashed you." I thought she was talking about the manipulation from Sol, but maybe she was being more literal? Maybe Osha's memories were tampered with, and maybe Qimir even knows it somehow.
Or maybe it happened to Qimir. Or maybe he knows that the Jedi have done it before.
#sw#sw spoilers#the acolyte#the acolyte spoilers#obviously i immediately thought of revan#but does qimir even know revan existed?#they're ancient history#much to ponder
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Calling all fans of Hyperspace, Wizards of the Coast RPGs, SW Insider, Sith and Mandalorian origins and more! We are so excited to announce our next guest, Abel Peña! He will be available to meet with fans, sign autographs, and appear on panels Sept. 9th & 10th at #LegendsCon in Burbank, CA.
Buy tickets now: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/legends-consortium-2023-tickets-541786186067
#Expanded Universe#Star Wars Expanded Universe#Star Wars Legends#SWEU#Star Wars EU#SW Expanded Universe#LegendsCon#Star Wars Books#Star Wars Comics#Star Wars Games#Star Wars Insider#Hyperspace#Halagad Ventor#Star Wars RPG#WotC#KOTOR#True Sith#Ancient Sith#Sith History#Sith Dynasties#Mandalorian#Mandalorian History#Secret Origins#Skye Walkers#Lone Wolf#Dark Forces#Kyle Katarn#Mara Jade#Imperial Warlords#Grand Admirals
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As someone who has yet to actually see a single episode of TBB in full and mostly just scrolls through the tag to see people's reactions, lemme just say this:
HOLY FUCK I WAS NOT EXPECTING A ZEFFO MECH
#tbb spoilers#tbb season 2 spoilers#jedi fallen order#jfo#zeffo#the zeffo#are genuinely such a cool addition to#sw lore#i love seeing ancient force sensitive cultures#gimme more of the sw history shit#not that this would ever happen#but imagining clone force 99#having to handle a zeffo temple guardian#damn that'd be rad
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sorry im at work scrolling your blog its 3 am this is incoherent and u may disregard but anyway ive not seen the acolyte but ur jedi post made me think... like jedi rly dont have a choice in being jedi right it literally isnt a choice. its not even for luke even tho he was an adult when the choice was offered to him bc obi wan kind of manipulated him into alla that like he wasnt offering any other choices. you can be a jedi just like your father (my master coerced your father into becoming a jedi but ignore that). its framed as the only choice. and its so annoying sw actually that they dont explore that maybe they do in the acolyte ive not seen it maybe i should manny jacinto seems to be in it. anyway. sw doesnt explore that the jedi actively supress there being any other choice for force sensitive kids, a way for them to remain with their families and loved ones and not become tools of the state... the church of the force stuff is so intetesting in r1 and its not rly expanded on bc chirrut and baze do seem to still be monks but maybe its a different vibe. theyre clearly allowed attachments maybe its a different philosophy that the jedi seem to have actively steered ppl away from. u have to think about the purpose of all of this as well bc the jedi are so highly militarized so u have to think it serves a political purpose as well as a religious one to tame them away from not only their families but their cultures bc this way theyre only loyal to the jedi and the jedi only answer to the senate! does this make sense. revelations of an addled mind. i think its less useful to think of the jedi as a cult and more useful to think of them as a military police who are based around religion (which is basically christianity im.not gonna get into how i think actual buddhism could be better explored in star wars)
no literally like star wars demonstrates that there are so many ways to use the force outside of the Jedi/Sith dichotomy but the Jedi are also like the ones who gained the most power and prominence throughout most of galactic history (iirc? I don’t know a lot of old republic canon). so like there is clearly something very effective in the way they build and maintain institutional and political power and that is almost certainly tied to the lack of choice that initiates are given when joining the Order. like you systematise recruitment by making it mandatory. it’s like a specialised state-sanctioned version of standardised education. which is coooooool it’s cool I love that shit so much like the debate about them being evil or not is so boring like idc it’s cool that there is this ancient order of force users who basically monopolised the way the force is used in most of the galaxy and this monopoly also led to their downfall when they became a formal military organ of the republic. that’s sooo fucking sick
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there's a few of you SW fans who found my repcomm art (hi!)... i've deleted most of it from tumblr (for unimportant & ancient history reasons) but you can find a few more pieces in the tag via the above link to my archive if you're hankering for some more of the cuy'val dar ;)
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Ok so- WatcherCao RoleSwapAu
I got carried away, but anyways-
It's a role swap BUT NOT an ancient swap, after the dark flour war, Cacao realizes the kingdom is too weak to continue to play a big part, worrying that if Dark Enchantress comes back, she'll do what she did to GCs kingdom to his, so he "disappears" for a century, protecting his kingdom on the down low, until nobody who has his face memorized is alive.
He later takes jobs in the citadel, switching up his station all around the kingdom and outside it, every few decades so nobody catches on. Second Watcher is elected as king, and notices something....Odd. About one of their upkeepers.
Basically: Short struggling king x Secretly an ancient hero upkeeper
Some random excerpts from the discord for info:
Cacao: *grabs the souljam and protects SW with his sword*
Soul jam: *lights up*
SW:
He was supposed to have his slow burn office romance and the souljam ruined it 😤😤🤬🤬🤬
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SW: huh, our ancients souljam reacts a lot when its around you
Cao: huh- that's uh interesting 👁️👁️
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SW: wow, you know a lot about our kingdoms history
Cacao: UH- yeah- not like I was there or anything 👀
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Also some interesting stuff:
-Cacao's outfit is from the NPCs in the background during the DCK stages
-By "Upkeeper" I mean he effectively just does maid stuff, while keeping inventory, and looking after the king.
-I call SW "Coffee Roll" just so you know
-Coffee Roll is very tired from all the work all the time, at first he's too tired to care about Cacao's inconsistentces, but when he starts getting closer to him it starts to really make him wonder
-Coffee Roll, while a very good king, definitely feels the weight of not being as good as their ancient. It makes him stressed out at times that he's not doing good enough.
#watchercacao#watchercao#second watcher cookie#dark cacao cookie#dark cacao crk#Coffee Roll Cookie#Yet another au#cookie run kingdom#dark cacao kingdom#cookie run#art#RoleReversal!Au#I really just wanted to draw SW as king#the orange in his clothes rather than the purple cacao wears is to show hes technically not true royalty
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Samhain Ritual 2024 Excerpt - The Story & History of Samhain
While I'm not leading the Samhain ritual, my coven/circle is leading, I am helping with some sections of it! Notably, I wrote the section about the history of Samhain and how we celebrate it today. I thought I'd share it here like I've done with my other scripts, so I hope y'all enjoy it! (Note: I am not a Celtic pagan, so please excuse me if any information is wrong! I've included the bibliography at the end.)
DO NOT INTERACT: TE/RFS, TE/HMS, SW/ERFS, TRAN/SMEDS, TRUS/CUM, TRANSPHOBIC, HOMOPHOBIC, EXCLUSIONISTS, CONSERVATIVE, NAZI, TRADWIVES, ANTI-BLM, ANTI-ASIAN, XENOPHOBIC, ABLEIST, ANTI-POP CULTURE PAGANISM
Samhain is the final harvest before winter when the veil between the physical and spirit worlds is thinnest. Celebrated alongside Halloween, Dia de los Muertos, and All Saint’s Day, Samhain marks the end and beginning of the Wheel of the Year as we enter the darkest half of the year.
Samhain, as we know it to be currently, originates from ancient Celtic traditions. It was celebrated in the British Isles as the “night between years,” when the dead walked among mortals. The most important of the four Celtic festivals was a time to take stock of crops before the frost and honor the ancestors.
Many of our modern Halloween traditions come from old Celtic traditions. The aos sí (ace SHE), fairy-like spirits, were left food and drink outside to avoid their mischief, such as killing livestock during the winter. People went door-to-door in costumes to blend in with the aos sí and collected offerings, a predecessor to trick-or-treating. Rather than pumpkins, turnips were carved with faces to symbolize the spirits crossing over and ward off malevolent ones.
There were several Celtic deities and entities who were and still are associated with Samhain. The Pooka, a shapeshifting Irish figure often depicted as a dark horse with fiery eyes, roamed the countryside, causing mayhem, and was a bringer of both good and bad fortune. Cerridwen, the cauldron-keeper Welsh triple goddess of the underworld, and The Morrigan, the Irish triple goddess of war, death, and fate, were both commonly associated with Samhain due to their associations with the cycles of life, death, and rebirth.
Samhain has become a tradition among modern pagans and is included in the Wiccan Wheel of the Year. The most important of the four greater Sabbats it’s a time to reconnect with ancestors, such as decorating altars with candles and mementos of loved ones who have passed. Divination, a typical ancient Celtic Samhain practice, is also a modern activity. Samhain is also an excellent time for shadow work and exploring your unconscious self.
In modern Wiccan practices, Samhain is associated with the Crone, the final of the Triple Goddesses. She’s one to go to for advice and teaches us that sometimes we need to let go to move on. The God of Samhain, The Horned One, is the animal that dies so we may eat and survive the winter. Gods and Goddesses not from Celtic lore but still associated with Samhain include Persephone, Hades, and Hecate from Hellenic tradition, Anubis and Osiris from Kemetic mythology, and Freya, Hel, and Odin from the Norse path.
Take this time to connect with the past, present, and future as the Wheel of the Year turns once more.
Bibliography
Gavin, Sophie. “Samhain - Celtic Festival of Spirits and Transformation.” Celtic Fusion ~ Folklore Clothing, Celtic Fusion ~ Folklore Clothing, 6 Mar. 2024, celticfusiondesign.com/blog/samhain-celebrating-the-celtic-festival-of-spirits-and-transformation.
Kiernan, Anjou, and Leslie Olson. The Ultimate Guide to the Witch’s Wheel of the Year: Rituals, Spells & Practices for Magical Sabbats, Holidays & Celebrations. Fair Winds, 2021.
“Origins in Samhain.” 13 Things, www.brown.edu/Departments/Joukowsky_Institute/courses/13things/7448.html. Accessed 28 Oct. 2024.
“Samhain (Samain) - The Celtic Roots of Halloween.” Newgrange.Com, www.newgrange.com/samhain.htm#:~:text=In%20Celtic%20Ireland%20about%202%2C000,allowing%20spirits%20to%20pass%20through. Accessed 28 Oct. 2024.
“Samhain.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 28 Oct. 2024, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain.
“Samhain: 13 Facts about Halloween’s Celtic Roots.” OghamArt, 31 Oct. 2022, oghamart.com/blogs/news/samhain-halloween-celtic-roots.
Wigington, Patti. “Ritual to Honor the God and Goddess at Samhain.” Learn Religions, Learn Religions, 8 Mar. 2018, www.learnreligions.com/celebrate-the-god-goddess-at-samhain-2562703#:~:text=In%20some%20Wiccan%20traditions%2C%20by,in%20order%20to%20move%20on.
#witch#witchcraft#witchblr#sabbat#samhain#wheel of the year#samhain 2024#celtic#celtic paganism#gaelic#gaelic paganism#pooka#cerridwen#the morrigan#aos si#wicca#wiccan#triple goddess#the crone#the horned god#persephone#hades#hecate#anubis#osiris#freya#hel#odin#pagan#paganism
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Reading meme 📚
What’s up readers?! How about a little show and tell? Answer these 13 questions, tag 13 lucky readers and if you’re feeling extra bookish add a shelfie! Let’s Go!
Thanks for the tag, @lucymonster, this was a lot of fun!
1) The Last book I read: The Sleeping Car Porter by Suzette Mayr, finally, which has been on my radar since I saw her speak in 2022. /o\ I loved the narrator's voice & it lived up to the hype, though I might have some nitpicks about the ending.
2) A book I recommend: Like lucymonster, I have to ask "For who?" and "What are they looking for?" You can't make me suggest something completely at random!
That said, when this was my job, my go-to rec for anyone who enjoyed mysteries and/or thrillers was Tana French; for science fiction/action readers, Martha Wells' Murderbot series; and Kelly Link or Mariana Enríquez for litfic & fantasy folks.
3) A book that I couldn’t put down: Hild (and its sequel Menewood)
4) A book I’ve read twice (or more): The last thing I re-read was The Worm Ouroboros. It's a strange book and almost indescribable; very much of its time but also written in deliberately, completely antique prose, sort of as if Tolkien had been inspired by Orlando Furioso.
5) A book on my TBR: SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
6) A book I’ve put down: These days I put down more fantasy novels and contemporary romances than I finish; I'm picky about prose and characterization and a lot of them are too bland.
7) A book on my wish list: The Mask of Fear. I'm not a fan of most SW tie-in novels, but Alexander Freed is one of my exceptions, plus I always want more Saw Gerrera and Mon Mothma!
8) A favorite book from childhood: Continuing on the theme of pony books from lucy - I read hundreds of them, but my all-time favourite was Fly-by-Night.
9) A book you would give to a friend: The last book I gave as a gift (to someone who's a massive local politics/municipal government wonk) was How Infrastructure Works: Inside the Systems That Shape Our World.
10) A book of poetry or lyrics that you own: Sadly, I don't actually own it anymore as over the past few years, I've drastically downsized my physical library. But before that, I held on to this edition of Akhmatova's selected poems in translation for decades.
11) A nonfiction book you own: One book that made the downsizing cut and stayed on my shelf is LeGuin's The Wave in the Mind. Her essays were just as foundational for me as her fiction.
12) What are you currently reading: Just started The Blighted Stars - Megan O'Keefe is one of the few romance writers whose work I consistently enjoy so I have high hopes for her SF.
13) What are you planning on reading next? One of two books that I have to read soon or return to the library: either the light contemporary romcom (Under Your Spell) or the thick history book (Shadows at Noon: The South Asian Twentieth Century) depending on my mood this weekend.
Tagging my reading peeps @englishable @mosylu @glorious-spoon @anghraine @rain-sleet-snow @intellectualcarrot plus anyone who wants to!
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The Skyfall AU Masterpost
This post will be an archive of sorts for the information posts for the Skyfall AU.
The goal of this AU is to hammer out a solid timeline for warrior cats, emphasize the downfall of Skyclan and the aftermath as key drivers in the plot, and better flesh out the characters and clan culture(s)! Additionally, I hope to address some of the more problematic elements of the canon text to make a narrative that is more satisfying and lives up to the potential the warriors world has. I also want to pin down a setting (at the moment I am leaning towards SW Scotland) for the books in order to make the names and environment consistent and accurate.
This AU will focus primarily on the the time frame from the fall of Skyclan to the end of OotS, since those are the books I read as a kid/teenager and are the books I have the best grasp of. I stopped reading the series consistently several years ago, but have re-read TPB recently. As such, I probably won't do much work on anything post-The Last Hope. Perhaps later, but certainly not anytime soon.
I hope to tackle DotC at some point, since I got about halfway through that arc before stopping reading the books.
This project is roughly broken into a few categories that are subject to change:
History of the Clans and Timeline Work:
Timeline from The Skyfall to Modern Day [DRAFT]
Clan Culture:
Skyclan's Cultural Evolution
Clan Ranks and Structure
How to Become Deputy by Clan
Plot:
Skyclan's Downfall
Thunderclan Civil War (aka The Skyblood Conflict)
Disbanding of Skyclan
Characters:
ThunderClan Cats
ShadowClan Cats
RiverClan Cats
WindClan Cats
Ancient SkyClan Cats
Modern SkyClan Cats
Rogues, Loners, and Housecats
Family Trees:
Power of Five
Skykin Foundations
ThunderClan
WindClan
RiverClan
ShadowClan
Modern SkyClan
Clanmew Posts:
SkyClan Ranks in Clanmew
Geography and Ecosystems:
Flora and Fauna of SW Scotland
The Forest Territories
Allegiances:
Into the Wild: ThunderClan
Into the Wild: ShadowClan
Into the Wild: WindClan
Into the Wild: RiverClan
Skyfall Asks + Responses:
Can Clerics have mates/kits
Will I write this?
Goal of the rewrite
This AU is inspired not only by the canonical warriors books that I read as a kid/teen but also by the work of @bonefall and @cryptidclaw, both blogs I absolutely love reading through because the ideas in their respective AUs/rewrites are superb and get the creative juices flowing. In particular, I plan on using the clanmew language system developed by bonefall and @troutfur and drawing from the clan culture bonefall has numerous posts about. This is also inspired by other animal fantasy books I read in my childhood, including Tailchaser's Song, Guardians of Ga'hoole, and Wings of Fire.
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I'm late for Star Wars Day, but here is my tribute to the most iconic gay Sith wedding of all time. It's a straightfoward redraw, though I did color-correct Marka Ragnos' skin to Sith-ly red, and I also gave Exar a bunch of piercings because he's evil and this is the 90s.
I painted this on the blank cover variant of the first edition of Marvel's current "Star Wars" series, which kicks off right after the events of Empire Strikes Back. So turn the page, and you'll find Exar and Ulic's spooky union attended by a miserable Luke, imperial girlboss Ellian Zahra, and Poe Dameron's cool parents. Should anyone present know of any reason that this couple should not be joined in holy matrimony, speak now or forever hold your peace!
This week’s theme: Star Wars OTPs!
As long as we’re talking trashy, evil mlm ships – in Star Wars, it doesn’t get any better than Exar Kun x Ulic Qel-Droma. These panels show their first meeting (though earlier, Ulic had sensed Exar’s existential anguish in the Force), in which they briefly fight and are then immediately married by a Sith ghost. This is, I believe, the fabled gay agenda.
How it started:
My enemies…I am Exar Kun!
How it’s going:
Together we will bring down the galaxy!
… And they all lived horribly ever after.
“Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith, Issue 6: Jedi Assault.” Dark Horse. March 14, 1994. Writers: Tom Veitch and Kevin J. Anderson. Penciller: Art Wetherell. Inker: Jordi Ensign. Letterer: Willie Schubert. Colorist: Pamela Rambo.
#star wars#star wars comics#dswcp fanart#exar kun#ulic qel-droma#marka ragnos#hot sith content#sw ancient history#exar x ulic#sith x sith#jedi x sith#(cuz ulic goes both ways)#star wars otp#dark horse comics#tom veitch#kevin j. anderson#art wetherell#1994#force-bond#they're holding hands#shirtless star wars#starts with a 'p'#ends with a 'roblematic'#just copied my own tags lol#i love these men so damn much
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April 1979, October 1979, and August 1980. These novels by Brian Daley were not the first STAR WARS tie-ins, but they were the best of the early phase, and a strong influence on later SW media. The creative success of these exciting, frequently very funny books, which chronicle three adventures of Han Solo and Chewbacca prior to the first movie, had a lot to do with Daley himself. According to Daley's friends and his partner, novelist Lucia St. Clair Robson, Daley was Han Solo, or close to it: a brash military veteran with no love of authority, a fondness for sports cars and motorcycles, and a notoriously sarcastic sense of humor that concealed a heart of gold. Ironically, Daley, who genuinely loved STAR WARS, would have preferred to explore the history of the Jedi, but Lucas declared that off-limits, and imposed many restrictions on what Daley could and couldn't use from the films. For that reason, the novels take place on the fringes of the Empire: The first two books are set in the Corporate Sector, a region administered semi-autonomously by corporate interests with their own ruthless Security Police (an idea that clearly inspired some of the plot of ANDOR), while the third is set in the Tion Hegemony, a remote principality.
HAN SOLO AT STARS' END has Han and Chewie roped into aiding a group of people whose relatives have been "disappeared" by the Corporate Sector Authority, which is quietly rounding up dissidents and sending them to a secret facility called Stars' End. After Chewbacca is captured by the Security Police, Han concocts an elaborate, harebrained scheme to rescue his friend and the other "lost ones" from the galaxy's most closely guarded high-tech prison. Naturally, things don't go quite as planned, leading to a spectacularly ludicrous finale. (Spoiler: Han accidentally launches the prison complex into space.) This novel was subsequent adapted for the STAR WARS newspaper strip by Archie Goodwin and Alfredo Alcala, although the adaptation unfortunately isn't a patch on the original.
HAN SOLO'S REVENGE finds Han and Chewbacca, desperate for cash, taking a job that turns out to involve transporting slaves. This is a line our heroes will not cross, so after dealing harshly with the slavers, Han agrees to help a Corporate Sector Authority auditor named Fiolla of Lorrd track down the ringleaders of the operation, one of whom is her once-trusted assistant, Magg. Meanwhile, Chewbacca is forced to contend with a stubborn skip-tracer called Spray, who is determined to repossess the Millennium Falcon over Han and Chewie's unpaid bills!
HAN SOLO AND THE LOST LEGACY has Han and Chewbacca agreeing to help Han's old buddy Badure, Badure's friend Hasti, and an academic named Skynx locate a legendary lost starship, the Queen of Ranroon, the fabled treasure ship of an ancient tyrant called Xim the Despot. (The skull on the cover is Xim's emblem.) Although this sounds like it was influenced by RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, the book was actually published almost a year before the premiere of RAIDERS.
Although the novels make clear that Han is not overly fond of droids, the books give Han and Chewbacca a pair of droid companions: a laconic old labor droid called Bollux, and a small, extremely sophisticated, disconcertingly enthusiastic computer probe called Blue Max, who "lives" within a compartment in Bollux's chest. Here's how Alfredo Alcala depicted them in the comic strip:
Daley also includes some delightful aliens, including the skip-tracer Spray, who's a Tynnan — basically a sentient beaver with the dexterity of a raccoon — and the Ruurian academic Skynx, a sentient caterpillar who's determined to complete as much of his research as he can before entering the next phase of his life cycle and becoming a chroma-wing who'll have little memory of his former identity.
A useful companion for the first two books is Michael Allen Horne's HAN SOLO AND THE CORPORATE SECTOR SOURCEBOOK for the West End STAR WARS RPG, published in 1993:
Aside from the inevitable game statistics and some quite decent illustrations of the novels' characters, the sourcebook fleshes out Daley's conception of the Corporate Sector Authority, explaining how the Corporate Sector functions and its relationship to the Empire. This is narrated in part by Han Solo himself, which is presented as excerpts of later interviews with an Alliance historian named Voren Na'al (a common conceit in the WEG game books that works especially well here). The sourcebook is best read after the novels, since it explains their plots in detail, but it's a worthwhile supplement. Unfortunately, a planned followup describing the Tion Hegemony was never published before West End Games lost the SW license.
Brian Daley's other major contribution to STAR WARS lore was scripting the NPR radio adaptations of the first three movies. STAR WARS originally aired in the spring of 1981, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK two years later. Daley also wrote the later adaptation of RETURN OF THE JEDI, but he died of cancer in early 1996, at the age of 49, so the final drafts were completed by John Whitman.
#books#star wars expanded universe#han solo adventures#brian daley#wayne douglas barlowe#dean ellis#william schmidt#han solo#chewbacca#corporate sector authority#archie goodwin#alfredo alcala#star wars andor#star wars
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While I have my ups and downs with the Acolyte, just seeing a live action SW show that takes place 100 years before the Skywalker saga makes me happy. We finally get to see more ancient history of the Galaxy in live action!!!
I’ve got no issues with it so far haha it’s still so early on but yeah I love seeing more of the jedi and especially of old and how they operated in the galaxy then
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I think we should take the "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" part of star wars more seriously.
By which I mean: all the lore inconsistencies and widly different fan interpretations are a whole lot funnier if you pretend this is like... a series of histories from some super ancient far off place and we are a series of resurchers with the world's messiest collection of primary and secondary sources. Every single peice of SW media was written by some unreliable narrator several thousand years ago. No one knows what atually happened because everything is a collection of fragmentory myths and legends. It's a fun way to cope with retcons and also incorporate any real life biases the creators of spusific media may have.
Why dose this spusific account say this when another book says that? "They were written at vastly different time periods and both authors interpreted the source text different, unfortunately we can't ever know what the truth was, yeah that historical figure sort of became a culture hero and as such a vast amount of regional folklore and legends were incorporated into their backstory"
Why do some people see this charecter as a hero and others a vilan? "Yeah historians can't agree what their overall role in the conflict was, and even primary documents about them disagree on weather or not they were helpful or harmful"
Are thease charecters lovers? "They wrote some very intimate letters to eachoter but no one can tell if "my love" was platonic or romantic and historians feel like giving it a lable under the current cultural understanding of love and romance would be an oversimplification"
Is that guy 50 or 500 "no one knows, some sources suggest their species could eaisally live to be 500, while others claim their planet of origin mearly has a widely diffrent method of counting years"
Why dose this account shower that charecter in praises while another seems to dislike them "well see, one was written by a friend of theirs and another written by a historical rival so..."
#star wars#SW#if you want to be REALLY funny about it then the timeline goes Star Wars -> Star Trek#do you know how funny it would be if some federation ship stumbled upon Star Wars and it was some super ancient advanced tech stuff#all the werid space anomalies and/or gods ST stumbles across are remnients of the force#ok but fr fandom drama is a lot funnier if you imagen it as a bunch of historians getting into long winded debates about biased sources#this also gives you the excuse to totally ignore cannon if you want bc any one peice of media can just be an inacurate historical document
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Oh gosh it is the evening and I realize I never told you about High Fantasy Star Wars like I said I was going to
Okay SO
Some exposition: It's January of this year. I'm about halfway through my Clone Wars binge with my brother, rewatching it in its entirety for the first time since I was like, eight. I also happen to be a Heroforge addict, having already made several Legend of Zelda-themed miniature sets. I decide to apply my love of Star Wars to my addiction, and then decide that since Heroforge has way more options for fantasy than science fiction, that I will lean WAY into the whole "Star Wars Is Just A Fairy Tale Set In Space" thing.
Things get WAY out of control, and instead of a simple "Here's all the main characters of The Clone Wars in a miniature set", I wind up with a whole AU.
A lot of the story and stuff can be found under the #hfsw tag on my main blog, or by going to my (somewhat; I'm working on it) dedicated AU sideblog, @high-fantasy-sw, but since those are kind of chaotic at the moment, I'll also have a brief rundown here:
The main body (and by that I mean the fic adaptation that I'm writing) of the AU focuses on the Prequels, The Clone Wars, and the Original Trilogy. However, me being the Star War-crazed nerd that I am, I also do have stuff for Rebels, The Bad Batch, Tales of the Jedi/Tales of the Empire, and sometimes the Sequels (the first three are canon to the AU even though they aren't part of the main story; the Sequels are not, but I still like to mess around with them a little).
The plot remains nearly identical to the canon universe, just tweaked to fit the Fantasy worldbuilding.
Because I liked the idea of needing to travel long distances on ships to reach other planets, I decided to not make the setting a single continent with each of the planets being a country on the continent. Instead, the world is set in an archipelago on a great sea, with each of the planets as its own island or chain of islands.
(Side note but one thing I'm very proud of is that each character fights with a distinct weapon, and even each Jedi's individual lightsaber is unique to them.)
I haven't really posted much about this either under the tag or on the main blog, but as I am a sucker for symbolism and motifs and what not, there are several distinct fantasy... "subgenres", I guess you could call them, in the AU that are supposed to symbolise what a character or organization or what-have-you represents. To name a few, the Jedi are heavily influenced by Arthuriana (because holy monk-knights and the ideals of chivalry), the war-like and highly-traditional Mandalorians are inspired by Ancient Rome, Padme specifically has a very classic-fairy-tale motif because of her high ideals and hope for the future, and the Empire (and the island of Coruscant, to an extent) is represented by a very grim version of steampunk, because of its desire to dominate and control through mechanical means.
I do have to put a disclaimer on this work: I never claimed historical accuracy in this AU. My whole thing is, "If I think it's a cool idea, in it goes", and so while several aspects of the story and worldbuilding are drawn from history (especially the Jedi and the Mandalorians), it's more of an inspiration than a strictly accurate thing. If historical accuracy is your thing, I would suggest going and checking out @/an-old-lady's Medieval Star Wars AU, which was a huge inspiration on my own idea, VERY cool, and with much more historical authenticity than my story.
Oh gosh I hope I wasn't overstepping with this infodump, and if I was feel free to ignore. But if you enjoyed this rant, I'm so glad! I hope you have a great day :D
ahsjfkfbbdnfkejnfkekrnd I LOVE THIS
I need to go to bed but i am most definitely looking into this more tmr bc YES I AGREE
and ur so real for the “if i like i add” thing. frfr
the archipelago idea is EXQUISITE. and i love the arthurian addition to the jedi
you did not overstep at all! i love infodumps, and i am currently eeting this one. feel free to infodumo any time friend!
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SW Masterlist: Discourse
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Fun fact, tumblr allows 250 links on the old editor and 100 in the new. So. Network of masterlists
This one is organized as:
Mandalore - Traditional Mandalorians - New Mandalorians
Anidala and the Tuskens Massacre
Jedi
Other
Have some maps, btw.
MANDALORE
Traditional Mandos (True and Death Watch)
Timeline/Explanation of the True Mandalorians
True Mando Discourse/True Mandos did shoot first (etc.) - Jango gave the order to do so - The American Militia comparison
Are the True Mandalorians canon again since Jaster was name-dropped in The Mandalorian? (Short answer: no.)
Traditional Mandalore and the American Far Right - Why gun control? - The Doylist racism - More about the racism
The whitewashing that affected the clones and all of New Mandalore was also applied to the True Mandalorians, and to judge New Mandalore for their wholly white presentation without judging the True Mandalorians is a problem (with screenshots)
Traditional Mandalorians through the lens of the devsirme
Jango did a genocide (and the only way to make him unaware is to strip him of the Legends backstory that has him as former Mand’alor)
Quick checklist of diversity of True Mandos (as shown in Open Seasons) vs New Mandos (as shown in TCW)
The canonicity of anti-slavery trad mandos is... questionable
When fic takes “Mandalorians are good with children” to unreasonable degrees.
Mandalorian Empire through the lens of Ancient Rome
Don’t Make Me Tap The Sign meme
New Mandos
Satine’s handling of Mando’a (Death Watch Propaganda)
Maybe Satine had a Point
Padme and Satine - Just Satine
Satine is the equivalent of a 70s anti-Vietnam-War protestor (
This war could have been an email
Satine’s policies (and attitude towards child-rearing) as influenced by her traumas
What did Satine even do in canon that could be considered cultural genocide as claimed by fanon? - This one has more iterations - Mandalore’s Bernie Sanders (edit by @personontheswing) - Why Mandalore fell
“Obi-Wan is better at Mandalorian stuff than Satine” mmmm no
Satine is the sitcom mom of Mandalorian politics - Follow-up
Why “Satine should have been a villain” really gets my goat. (stats) - Other version
Hot Take: Satine Kryze should have been a woman of color - All of New Mandalore should have been more diverse
The Britain comparison
TFW Satine and Obi-Wan’s approach to parting at the end of their year together is reversed solely to make Satine seem less suited to Obi-Wan
The MandalMotors accusation
Canon Satine vs Fanon Satine
Satine and Tarre?
Best alt name for Duke Kryze (because of the cultural appropriation) poll
Retconning the domestic bliss for Anidala vs retconning the New Mandalorians as cultural genocide
Stop flipping and worsening the Obitine dynamic just so you can pretend your preferred shipmate for him is better than Satine because they ‘understand’ him better.
Why did Satine need to “learn” to compromise, exactly?
Reasons and ways we disregard canon
You know she doesn’t have to be an Evil Bitch Ex, right? She can just be dead.
ANIDALA and TUSKENS MASSACRE
The acceptable amount of baby murder is None
Padme’s not actually the most rational person here
And yeah she’s kinda racist
And that racism parallels history
Who was she supposed to tell? (Obi-Wan. She was supposed to tell Obi-Wan) - The absolute coldest take
“The Jedi wouldn’t understand.”
Anakin’s Slippery Slope to Baby Murder (Take One) Alt title for this post is: Anakin grabbed a sled to the slippery slope
Torture had something to do with it
Padme is a train wreck and that’s what makes her fun, fight me
“Padme deserves better” is wrong because as far as Padme is concerned, ‘better’ does not exist. Anakin got full marks, it’s just that Padme’s rubric is different from basically anyone else’s. “Better” is just an Anakin who didn’t help overthrow democracy.
A rant on my hate for “Anakin mindcontrolled Padme into loving him”
A touch on Padme Characterization
Writing Nuance
All said, Anakin/Consequences is actually a red flag - And I hate It
JEDI
What are the Jedi bringing balance to
Not enough Jedi for the whole galaxy - And held up to unrealistic standards - Prioritizing Shmi could have been justified without favoritism (but doesn’t really matter)
Why did Qui-Gon bring Anakin to Naboo?
The Jedi lost their way
Jedi crit cannot exist in a vacuum
How are you defining this word that is central to the argument?
Ruusan Reformation
The question of finance
Jedi don’t do excommunication in any but the absolute most extreme cases (and if someone is going full Sith Lord, like Tyranus or Vader, they’ve usually already left voluntarily)
Hot take: Qui-Gon’s survival would have contributed to keeping Anakin stable and not prone to attachment.
The Amatonormativity of fandom
“Why didn’t the Jedi help Shmi?” Why didn’t Padme. - Addendum
This isn’t discourse I just really love Ahsoka
How old is Quinlan, anyway?
The question of writing Barriss
I need a visual timeline of the Jedi Council
Why I don’t post Jedi Crit, even if I sometimes think it
Where did the "Obi-Wan's parents tried to drown him in a river" headcanon even come from?
Why is Star Wars fandom not telling us that the reason Qui-Gon didn’t go back for Obi-Wan on Melida/Daan was that Xanatos was trying to kill green grandpa?
How real-world traumas wrt immigration inform our interactions with the idea of Jedi being asked ‘but where are you from?’ - Contribution from another
Trying to figure out where I got Those Assumptions about the Traviss TCW novel from
Other
Flavors of Discourse
I think the GAR being only three million clones actually does make sense, even for space.
Boba’s (almost) war crime
What even is a war crime - We don’t care
Filoni only knows how to tell one kind of story
Why do people write Rex not liking Anakin as a person?
Cliegg/Shmi can be viewed as a frontier marriage
The best flavor of “Anakin gets left on Tatooine”
Devaronian girls deserve horns too
Cloneshipping - Yes, that size kink can be racist
In Defense of Clonecest
TCW and portrayal of the Separatists
Ship Tomato
All Age Difference Codywan comes back to me (this isn’t true but it is related to a plagiarism scandal, don’t worry about it)
Stewjon as Space Scotland
Shipping got in the way of my plan
Retraction of an assumption I had about a scene with Kitster and Anakin
Why is it admirable for the twins to treat R2 like a real person and recognize his apparent sentience, but Anakin doing the same is him “not valuing the lives of clones”
That one plagiarism situation
(I wasn’t thinking of it as one because I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt but I shared to a friend who is usually good about giving me reality checks and was informed that “No they fully plagiarized your ass.” So. There’s that.)
My original au post
The first time someone told me about the fic it (allegedly) inspired - I do know one person (just one) went in and left a comment to ask, but never got an answer
I recced one of their other fics, which I had enjoyed a lot, and an anon asked me if I was reccing someone that had used one of my fic concepts without permission.
Finding out they have a tumblr, from someone who had put them on a do-not-read list because they found the situation too sketchy
All Age Diff Codywan Leads Back to Nixy (AKA I sent an ask to test the waters, dug a bit, and was thus informed that I did inspire the fic, though it was a different post, but that ‘modern au codywan is so common that it’s not like credit is needed. I reblogged with a meme in hopes that it would be a polite, lighthearted way to indicate they should still maybe add a credit link in an A/N)
About two months after that, I found that they had deleted their tumblr, added the fic to a hidden collection so it could no longer be accessed, and blocked me on AO3.
So who knows what the situation even is anymore, but that is the process. Mostly it’s just been very frustrating and a little baffling because. It could have all been resolved with a single sentence. Just one “this fic was inspired by these posts on tumblr” in an A/N, and nobody would have cared.
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