#sure why not i'll main tag it.

[yahamitsu]

the slow, threatening walk specifically to larry...

[triangular-static]

look i understand if people just don't like the idea of billford, i think we have a different internal concept of what shipping means (they're not good for each other at all but i need to dissect their dynamic like a bug. you understand. it's fun) but it's fine to avoid things you don't like, good for you genuinely

however people saying they like. don't see it. like. i'm not saying there's no platonic way to read it, i'm aroace spec myself i'm all for reading things in different ways. but i do think saying they weren't partners in any queer sense at all is trying too hard to go against what the narrative is trying to say, or missing it. somehow

anyway media literacy time if a character makes a joke like this

and the previous context of that joke within the show is that it's about an ex wife. what connection do you think the text is trying to get you to make.

and that's just from a writing point of view. not even noting that from an in universe perspective ford likely knows the joke from the same source as stan. and is therefore. placing himself in that role of the joke are you seeing where i'm coming from

(not to mention bill's side of this text which is. extremely manipulative but also does not read very platonic. again, it can technically be read as platonic! bill literally can manipulate ford's feelings. but the specific wording used is very much meant to look like possessive ex partner wording whether the character means it that way or not. it's coding. look again i'm not saying it was good for them i'm just saying there was something there.)

and then there's also the divorce/break up/rock bottom input on the website. like. how else is that supposed to be read. and the corresponding page in the book itself.

the language being used here. like yes he's saying it in a joking way but then there's the other side that isn't joking which is him crying at the bar. it's the both sides (the very coded language on top of the very genuine emotions and dynamic beneath)

i know most of us are on the same page with this i've just seen a couple people saying they don't see it when this is some of the most clear cut coding i've ever seen. and these are just the things that explicitly reference a relationship off the top of my head i'm not even including the general vibes of Everything

tl;dr it's barely even subtext anymore it's all but straight up text. what's not clicking have we forgotten what coding is (lighthearted i just enjoy the phrase what's not clicking. what's not clicking)

[littlespoonevan]

i think the thing for me and the thing that's actually bothering me the most in general is that i don't think any show in 911's category that i've ever watched (that is: network tv shows that run on a weekly basis for most of the year with no definitive or planned ending until cancellation) has gotten better after killing off a main character

[aston-axo]

Alonso seeing Russell pulling up on Piastri

[ying-doodles]

Do you have any llovier fanfic you would recommend? 👀

ooo good question, I have so many! there are a couple of javisuho ones thrown in here too-

more than what was asked- lloyd asks javier to dance with him while they relax outside away from a party and feelings come forth

violets for master, my everlasting love- javier gets hanahaki and lloyd panicks trying to figure out how to help him

cycles of our love- javier confesses and the moment turns into a time loop for lloyd

within the wake- au about suho who's a merman that gets caught and javier's a scientist studying him (unfinished but I love it too much not to include it,,)

please kiss me, I'm drowning- au about post-novel javier meeting selkie suho

system error- javier can suddenly see the system and hijinks ensue

the marriage duel (hi sun!)- alicia calls for a tournament for suho's heart post-novel and suho and javier discuss what to do about it

all your letters in one basket- javier offers lloyd a love letter and lloyd assumes it's one for javier (it's not)

and also a few series, aka I just like a lot of the fics these authors wrote ehehe:

the hooligan (affectionate) and the knight (derogatory) by sanyuri_1873

all up in the stars by mokuroh

I swear devotion to you by scripted_suicide

[fourswords]

you know something. shadow is honestly ridiculously lax and even veers on the edge of being """nice""" (in his own way) with the hinoxes. and it's hilarious:

like sorry but if it were me. and a bunch of clumsy ass hinoxes were fucking around with the mirror that granted me near-unlimited power and also a body. i would do a little more than call them idiots and shake my fist at them while yelling at them to get out. i would literally just straight up kill them. also him bursting in when vio hits (kills, actually, according to the fan translation where shadow actually says "why did you kill him?") the hinox and immediately giving him a squinty-eyed suspicious look because of it is SO fucking funny. and also the last picture is even more so because of the fucking expression on the hinox. just "shadow somebody threw a hammer on me after trying to break the dark mirror and now i've got a case of the ouchies :(((" like brother you just KNOW if they pulled that same expression in front of ganon or vaati they'd be vaporized on the spot. what's going on here

[queenburd]

I write this post with the caveat that I was into TSP and TSPUD before discovering Cl0ck 0ut and I never joined any servers around it, so the impact to me is extremely minimal compared to many others who were heavily inspired by it. I recognize that while it's sickening to me, it's even harder for the people who joined the TSP fandom because of Cl0ck 0ut.

I'm also extremely on the fringes of the fandom in general, I've never gone out of my way to interact with people who are more well-known for their narrator designs. I don't know that this post is going to reach its intended audience that much.

With all that aside, I really want to tell the people who are extremely hurt and reeling and sick to their stomach something that I think is pretty important:

You may have been introduced to TSP from watching Cl0ck 0ut, and it may have inspired you, but it is not the thing that kept you here interested in the game. You're in this fandom because you found like-minded people, maybe through the animation sure, and continued to make connections beyond that surface-level one.

Look, I've been here before. I'm not old, but I'm in my late twenties now and I've been in fandom circles for nearly 2 decades. There were inevitably times where the fanbase learned bad things about the creator, or a specific "big time" fan whose works they liked. It does suck, it does hurt, you're more than allowed to feel betrayed and sick and stressed.

A lot of what got me through it was having other people to talk to, who understood because they were also going through it. They understood because they were in that same fandom with me, we had met through it. The thing that mattered was that I had friends I had made beyond a superficial initial connection.

You made bonds. You created things (headcanons, art, stories, theories) with other people, and you still enjoyed the initial thing, yeah, but you enjoy it more because of the extra layers of connection that it led you to! But remember, please remember, that while it was a jumping off point, and you might attach a lot of value to it for that, it didn't do the work. You and other people did that. And that's the real valuable thing. That doesn't have to be stained with the bad feelings, I promise. It can and has evolved past the initial connection.

It's gonna sting for a while. That's understandable. If you need to take a break from creating, no one can blame you. But keep your connections with other people. Keep your friends.

(And if you made things that were directly inspired by Cl0ck 0ut designs or initial story, I can understand if you're feeling extremely uncomfortable with making more of it. I have a couple fanfics I was reading that were based off it.

At the end of the day, do what makes you most comfortable, even if that includes putting it down and never picaking it up again; but know that people liked what you were making, again, not because it was Cl0ck 0ut based, but because you were doing interesting and unique things with the premise. That's what fandom does with any media, and the story you were crafting does not, I think, need to be wholly discarded despite its premise having...'issues'.)

[salty-an-disco]

*head in hands*

at this point, I'll have to do a full rewrite of Skeptic's routes, even if just in my mind, just so I can keep going with my Post-Canon AUs with some peace of mind. that is NOT my boi, and I refuse to take those as canon

(someone already did one for Den and EotN over on reddit, which I still gotta read, but it's nice to see others agree Skeptic feels mishandled in the update)

[longagoitwastuesday]

I was tagged by @pegasusdrawnchariots. Thank you very much for the tag! I'm doing this before I forget and six months pass again lol

Three ships: Heathcliff and Cathy, Jack and Lacie. No one else holds a candle to these two truly, not even close, but I love Penelope and Odysseus, Lancelot and Guinevere, Hector and Andromache, Orpheus and Eurydice if they can be considered a ship at all given they're more structure than meat, Otacon and Snake, Han and Leia, whatever Cyrano/Roxane/Christian have going on, Rhett and Scarlett but also whatever Rhett/Scarlett/Ashley/Melanie have, Henry and Fanny, Obi and Shirayuki, Red and Blue/Green, Razumikhin/Dunya/Svidrigailov, Fermín/Ana/Víctor-Álvaro maybe, Kalpas and Sakura perhaps, Dong Mae and Ae Shin I guess, Ijichi and Gojo but also Gojo and Utahime, though these two are newish and probably I should not include them. I don't even know if I would say I ship many of these things, mostly I find the dynamics interesting.

First ship: hmmm I'm not sure. Perhaps Han and Leia when I was nine? Although I got into Star Wars for Anakin and Padmé. I remember having a lot of feelings about Zuko and Katara when I first watched Avatar when I was twelve. Although thinking back it may have been Red/Blue or Otacon/Snake/Meryl, or even Frank/Naomi, back when I was between 5-9 yo.

Last song: I can't recall. Perhaps Blue from Cowboy Bebop? Or Inkpot gods by Amazing Devil. They're actually both linked to the sunrises fic, which is why I listen to them.

Last film: For a few dollars more, again xD

Currently reading: I'm rereading On the Infinite Universe and Worlds by Giordano Bruno. Also comparing two editions of Cantor's Mathematical works, which I don't know if it counts even if it implies reading. Oh and Jujutsu Kaisen! This time steadily, in order, from beginning to end. I'm always taken aback by how much I care about this thing and its characters.

Currently watching: Cowboy Bebop! We're almost done with that, though. I guess you could argue I am also still watching Jujutsu Kaisen, even if I haven't watched an episode since last August. I think I'll give it another try soon. I suck at watching stuff.

Currently consuming: nothing. I have water with me, but nothing. My time or my life, I guess, in a broad sense.

Currently craving: a better life lol Jokes aside, nothing either, besides cherries (I always want cherries). Perhaps a small pastry, pretty but not too sugary. A lemon macaron or a red bean or matcha mochi.

I'm tagging @13eyond13, @cavarage, @bluebellbanshee, @eroshiyda, @nerd-bastard, @wearileigh, @mordredsheart, @jillvalentine, @song-of-amethyst, @whatevsbla, @elegyofthemoon, @redcandieddust, @peregrintook, @cutemercutio, @xonference, @fifteenrubies, @ccprovolomies

I'm tagging everyone ever, but I rarely remember to do these and I've been tagged in things before by many of you so you're all getting tagged. No pressure, though

[mothedmanillustration]

incomprehensible bit for you all

[somfte]

Flint was morally correct to bombard all the civilians in Charles Town, no I will not elaborate.

[turoce]

i just started watching season 3

[gible-love-nibles-archive]

A little video of just Scaramouche during that little dance scene for your viewing pleasure because I haven't seen anyone focus on just Scaramouche during that part

What is he doing (affectionate)

[planetamarte]

tomodachi life couldve saved airy

[shoechoe]

in 2025 there will be a great Diavolo ship war where all the Diavolo fans who like their respective Diavolo pairings make discourse blogs and fight to the death or whatever happens in ship wars. Inevitably the clear victor will be the Diavolo x Morganthe x Flippy x Bojack Horseman polycule despite the only one who's ever gotten even close to making that being me

[ying-doodles]

what're the differences between tged novel and manhwa?

buddy that's a rabbit hole that you do not want to fall into because it will probably ruin your perception of the manhwa when you realize just how badly they twisted the novel-

... but if I had to sum it up (feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of these points because I will rant about this topic for days):

lloyd and javier's characters have been warped into ugly evil money-hungry landlord and his corrupted henchman-

a lot of arcs go very differently in the manhwa, such as the bone dragon arc, hell train arc (og!lloyd...), heart of winter arc, etc. the farming demons are completely manhwa-only in particular.

alilloyd keeps getting added into plot points they were not in before, which then ruins the moments lloyd and javier originally had in the novel,,

there's probably more that I'm missing but I'm writing this after I just woke up so my brain is not fully online yet (also I haven't read tged in a good while after I dropped the manhwa tbh)-